Yesterday during a routine operation of cleaning hostile sovereignty blockades, infrastructure hubs and territorial claim units in the never-ending structure grind, NCdot hit a little bit of a snag in the otherwise smooth operation.

This little snag would turn a normal operation into something that could potentially have put NCdot super carriers at risk of destruction from hostile entities who would and gladly did take the opportunity to engage.

The cause of this hiccup didn’t start as anything major other than the fact that friendly fighter bombers failed to return to their super once exiting warp and landing on the next SBU. After waiting for a few minutes someone spoke up stating that it was likely the grid which was messed up so all supers began to approach the SBU instead of the normal procedure of aligning with the hopes that their drones would return.

As the supers began to approach the SBU and drones slowly begin to return a new member joined local, Mister Vee. He landed on grid right in the middle of the supers and as expected lit a cyno, even though it didn’t last long as he was quickly destroyed by smartbombs it allowed the hostile dictors and hictors to get into system and light a hard cyno for the remainder of the typhoon fleet to get on grid.

Before the hostile typhoons appeared the usual procedures took place and the FC, Poison Kevin, picked a align point and told all supers to fit smartbombs and neuts and begin to align to clear off the hostile hics/dics before the rest of the fleet could make it an issue. Unfortunately they couldn’t be cleared in time so as the hostile typhoons landed on grid the call was made to refit for passive tank and go to full rep fit. At this point the issue with the grid became more of an issue as the target picked by the typhoons, Da beast, was being bumped from the hostiles away from the others and the grid they was crossing. At this point the problem changed from being a nuisance to a problem as all supers were told to manually change alignment back to the SBU so we could continue to repair him and the call for aid went up to all allies to form foxcats to help clear the field of hostile typhoons.

Learning from past mistakes, here, on seeing the hostiles deploy a mobile cyno jammer to prevent any incoming support from providing direct aid the FC lit a cyno on his super before it could be stopped, allowing his backup to get in at 0. By this time in came a 80 man razor alliance Munnin fleet which was shortly followed by an additional Initiative typhoon fleet. Still unable to break the reps of the NCdot supers the CFC jumped in roughly 20 dreads and unfortunately for them the dreads were in close proximity to the supers to provide the most damage which meant, even with the hostiles primarying them, they soon fell to the combined firepower of all the fighter bombers being deployed. As they began losing dreads at a quick pace CFC decided to siege red and jump out the not bubbled dreads, with 13 still being destroyed. Once all dreads were cleared and initial NCdot cyno cycling to it’s death NCdot bridged in a support fleet of Navy Apocs, along with PL who quickly destroyed the CFC mobile cyno jammer allowing further reinforcements to enter field.

The local count in RNM-Y6 peaked at around 750 and with the supers relatively safe the task switched from a rescue operation to clearing the hostile fleet from field as quickly as possible. This again brought the issue of the grid back into the forefront as those pilots who came in and didn’t know of the situation quickly learnt of the problems and many Navy Apocs were killed due to being on the wrong grid compared to all the friendly logistics. All pilots were called to approach the cyno until the hostiles on grid were cleared and the align to sun was called putting them one by one into the path of the hostile fleet before another cyno could be lit allowing friendly triage to enter field in a correct location.

Whilst this was going on a 150 man ishtar fleet came to the aid along with a further 100 man fleet of foxcats by NCdot. As it became less and less likely that the CFC would be able to complete their quick gank they decided to extract and cut their losses so the fleet went back to its original objective of destroying the SBU on the AZ3F-N gate after bouncing to the station and back to re-enter the original grid with its lone occupant (the original super cyno) sitting there. Once complete and all the cynos had time to cycle down thanks to the lowered time dilation compared to the 10% during the engagement, the call was made to extract supers and the fleet began to head home with much GFs passed in local.

The NCdot FC Poison Kevin would like to make a special mention to:
Manfred Sideous of Pandemic Legion for helping with the main subcap fleet.
Colonel Kurtz of NCdot for FCing the second Apoc Fleet.
Mirko Spetz of The Kadeshi for FCing and bringing in the Nulli Ishtar fleet reinforcements.

The full battle report for the engagement can be found here for eve-kill and here for a fully adjusted team distribution.

The view from an apoc coming in with support fleet:

The view from a triage carrier (once they entered field):

The video from the view of a super carrier:


Note: Just want to make a special thankyou to Poison Kevin for FCing the engagement as well as confirming the details in the report and the CFC for bringing it.


  1. homeless peasant

    lost my fox cat to that shit.

    March 16, 2014 at 22:05 Reply
    1. Faldal Dartan

      ty for linking bro 🙂

      March 16, 2014 at 23:32 Reply
  2. CFCnsfw

    The only thing this proves is that Navyapoc’s are OP broken, and need to be nerfed.

    March 16, 2014 at 23:06 Reply
    1. lol

      lol it was drones, now it is navyapocs, cfc nerf bat swings again. whats next?

      March 16, 2014 at 23:24 Reply
      1. lollol

        anything that kills a cfc fleet?

        March 16, 2014 at 23:41 Reply
      2. Winmatar

        No it was doomsdays, then supercarriers, then tracking dreads, then sentries, now Napocs.

        March 16, 2014 at 23:44 Reply
        1. Chris

          You missed tracking titans in there.

          March 17, 2014 at 00:43 Reply
        2. if you think that supers were not op than you were not paying attention. I dont think anyone is calling for navpocs to grt nerfed. that guy above is just trolling.

          March 17, 2014 at 05:47 Reply
          1. lulz

            They were only OP because CFC refused to use anything other then maels, and drakes. Same with tracking titans……. CFC flew nothing but double shield rigged+LSE, perma-MWD drakes to fight tracking titans. It was almost as if they wanted to should how strong tracking titans were, so they flew the worst possible doctrine they could think of lol….

            March 17, 2014 at 22:17
          2. gert

            the tracking titan tears are still awesome, thank you CCP 🙂

            March 18, 2014 at 09:59
          3. yes lets fly ab tengus, oh wait dds, lets fly armor hacs, oh wait dds, let fly frigates, oh wait dds. I was away from the game at this point and even i knew it was broken, you are just bitter.

            March 18, 2014 at 14:29
          4. lulz

            lol…DD’s were already nerfed long before that point. Do you even play eve?

            March 18, 2014 at 16:06
          5. Nope, who wants to play a game about internet spaceships? What point are you even talking about? Before Branch campaign or during it?

            March 18, 2014 at 21:10
          6. Rugs

            Did your parent drop you on your head when you were little? Or were you born retarded?

            March 19, 2014 at 00:24
          7. really this is your comeback? Where is Rebo he is actually good at trolling.

            March 19, 2014 at 01:10
          8. That was stupid

            Fighting the war with a water pistol I see. Someone calls you stupid for saying stupid shit, and you call them a bad poster.

            You sure showed him.

            March 19, 2014 at 05:58
          9. I have totally been humbled by your intelligent insight.

            March 19, 2014 at 15:51
          10. Mike

            You only think it was OP because your couple hundred bil isk drake fleet couldn’t kill a tril plus isk titan fleet. The problem wasn’t even the fact that you were not willing to risk more, the problem was you were flying a perma MWD drake which had a sig. bigger then a BS.

            Also like someone else said the DDing of subcaps was nerfed when tracking titans were a thing. The whole reason tracking titans were a thing is it was just about the only way to fit them to make them useful, then that got nerfed, and now there are POS ornaments.

            March 19, 2014 at 16:59
          11. I guess you thought I was talking about AOE dds I was talking about point in click. I know AOE dds were nerfed a long time ago.

            March 19, 2014 at 16:13
      3. Chris


        March 17, 2014 at 00:44 Reply
    2. Carlos

      lol, are u mad bro?

      March 16, 2014 at 23:54 Reply
    3. Kamar Raimo

      You mean the same Napocs you won against when TEST flew them during the Fountain War. When will you guys ever admit that you were beaten because someone actually was better than you rather than calling the game broken?

      If CFC were to play chess they would probably call for queens or knights or rooks to be nerfed when they get beaten by someone who is just better at playing the game.

      March 16, 2014 at 23:58 Reply
      1. pleade dont feed the troll. it is pretty easy to tell he is not from the cfc ans is just trolling.

        March 17, 2014 at 05:45 Reply
        1. Chris

          I don’t know, there are a lot of dumb people in the CFC who aren’t trolls.

          March 17, 2014 at 14:46 Reply
          1. Vax

            Like people that can’t spell ‘please’, or ‘and’?

            March 17, 2014 at 21:01
          2. or there are lots of smart people in N3 that know they can troll here and people will believe they are part of the CFC. I feel like i am the only member of the CFC that regularly posts here.

            March 18, 2014 at 14:27
    4. Bantor

      “If it can beat the CFC, it is broken, and needs to be nerfed.”

      March 17, 2014 at 00:24 Reply
  3. Really

    Once again NCDOT has to call for help, bailing them out is getting to be a daily thing.

    March 17, 2014 at 05:58 Reply
    1. Yes really dumdum

      Completely unhonorable move by ncdot because the enemo clearly wanted a 1:1 fight.

      (113) Goonswarm Federation>><><><><><><><><><<(5) Red Alliance

      March 17, 2014 at 10:29 Reply
    2. lol

      WHAAA WHAAA WHAAA … Buhuhuhuhuhuhu … Dry those tears little one.

      March 17, 2014 at 11:00 Reply
    3. Ming Tso

      “We, The CFC, the ‘Honoureable Third Parties’ to this conflict, would prefer that all parties to this war be honoureable, and civilized, and refrain from bloubbing as we attempt to smash your faces in shit over and over and over in your half of the galaxy.”

      March 17, 2014 at 12:48 Reply
      1. JD Martin

        *third of the galaxy

        March 18, 2014 at 16:07 Reply
    4. hmm

      sure cuz GSF wanted to fight 1v1 -.-
      keep crying…

      March 17, 2014 at 12:51 Reply
    5. anonymous

      Yea it is not like there were 5+ alliances trying to fight us or anything. I dare any one of those alliances to come at us alone and see what happens.

      March 17, 2014 at 13:14 Reply
    6. Ha

      Says Russians who need a shop other coalition to stay on life support.

      March 17, 2014 at 13:21 Reply
    7. Chris

      It was an attempt to gank our supers, which failed horribly.

      When ever the safety of your supercapitals is at stake, never not call your friends. Don’t act like you’re on the ehonoure high ground. You would do the exact same thing.

      March 17, 2014 at 14:45 Reply
      1. Meh

        Cfc had to have 3 quarters of nullsec blue and behind them to grow enough balls to drop supers/ titans, that says much in its self.

        March 17, 2014 at 22:19 Reply
    8. Yatesy189

      Your complaining NC dot called in its allies to fight a 300 CFC fleet against there few dozen supers? I wasn’t aware NCdot now has to fight the whole of the CFC alone
      How dishonourable of you NCDOT!

      March 17, 2014 at 15:58 Reply
  4. Spurty

    Looks like everybody had fun except CFC

    March 17, 2014 at 10:41 Reply
    1. DropOnNc.Everyday

      I had fun blapping all the navy pocs.looking at the killboard CFC was down 7bill in the isk war

      March 17, 2014 at 13:09 Reply
      1. anonymous
        March 17, 2014 at 13:16 Reply
        1. DropOnNc.Everyday

          Nope eve kill has it at 8bill popping them navy apocs very nearly made it equal in the isk war.

          March 18, 2014 at 13:07 Reply
          1. anonymous

            Hate to break it to you but the eve kill link is broken and counts many of your losses on both sides whereas shows the values after they are sorted out.

            March 18, 2014 at 15:38
  5. The Obvious

    My question is this: Explain how grid manipulation isn’t an exploit?

    March 17, 2014 at 13:52 Reply
  6. Soldarius

    Intentionally shrinking a grid is considered an exploit. Expanding it is not. The operative word here is “intentionally”. Good luck proving it.

    There are many screwed up grids out there, mostly due to nerds putting structures in bad places, like 300km from a station undock or short of a gate from a station.

    March 17, 2014 at 14:25 Reply
    1. Chris

      I don’t think it was intentional. The grid fucked up as we warped onto the SBU. If it had been a trap, we wouldn’t have been sitting there for 5-10 minutes trying to get on grid with the SBU to kill it before Vee came into local.

      March 17, 2014 at 14:42 Reply
  7. 21

    This is the kind of basic functionality problem you’d expect to see in a beta. Not a game that has been running for 10 years with so many expansions.

    March 17, 2014 at 16:22 Reply
  8. Pick a name

    We are going to stab n3 in the heart over and over until it dies.

    Mittani February 2014

    March 17, 2014 at 23:19 Reply
  9. Javier Wilcox

    So how is glorious victorious N3-2-1 doing tonight?

    March 18, 2014 at 00:18 Reply
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