Disclaimer: The opinions within this article are those of the author and doe not necessarily reflect those of EN24, its staff or writers.

I wasn’t planning on writing anymore articles on this topic but Sion’s recent article is simply too interesting not to address. One cannot help what is going through Sion’s mind as he wrote this piece.

Feeding

So the term is extremely common in games such as DotA where your team gets gold/experience based on the enemy player they’ve killed. If a member is particularly bad or maybe intentionally losing, it’s called “feeding.” Sion’s definitely feeding. The only question is if he’s just bad or if this is intentional. I’m honestly not sure. Anyway, read the following link with that term in mind.

How was it? What hurts more, your forehead or your palm? Alright let’s work through this.

Sion starts off by fumbling around with some semantics regarding the definition of community. Whatever deeper meaning he may have been trying to address gets lost in clumsy use of terminology often contradicting himself from one line to the next killing any sort of curiosity one could have to motivate the trouble of deciphering his intent. The quote that did catch my eye was: “It inherently assumes in the conceptualization that there is a Truth out there, and that Truth will be brought to the People by prophets of the Truth. Should you happen to disagree with that Truth, you find yourself outside this exclusive ‘community.'” I won’t fault Sion for it, but this sounds very familiar to what GSF leadership does on a fairly common basis. I’m not sure if Sion is unaware of this or if he’s simply hoping nobody else is.

He then goes on to claim that “the community,” which he claims does not exist, was outraged over their attack on Pandemic Horde [REKTD]. I don’t think anyone was actually critical of the attack itself. Much of the criticism earned was due to the poor handling of the KS, perceived or real hubris, as well as the insincere apology by the Mittani regarding its failure. Sion’s complaint that “bloggers have excluded the GSF out of the Eve community” took me by surprise considering goon culture has commonly used exclusionary tactics throughout the past. People outside of their group are even referred to as “pubbies.” If Goons are “excluded” by the community, we have to look at this claim logically. Is it more logical that bloggers have that sort of influence and power, or is it more likely that past Goon tactics of excluding non-goons succeeded. I would ask Sion to take responsibility for his actions rather than blame others. Let’s look at an example of past Goon exclusion:

“The theme of this year’s Goonswarm Alliance presentation is going to be Goonswarm hates you – and basically just talk about each different little aspect of demographic of eve of how much we hate them and want them all to die and kill themselves. Like highsec miners, we want them to kill themselves; people who role-play, we want them to kill themselves; people with Titans, we want them to kill themselves. There’s just a whole host of people I hope to really offend by telling them to commit suicide while on stage in front of thousands of nerds.” – The Mittani, 2012.

Perhaps it is not fair to blame all Goons for this sort of sentiment. I’m sure many do not have these beliefs. But the backlash that the Goons are seeing today is the responsibility of their leadership. It would be a fairly troubling state of affairs if bloggers were having more sway over the narrative of the Goons, than the leaders of the Goons themselves.

“Unfortunately for both the punditry and the /r/eve minority, Goonswarm Federation and the Imperium are not led by spineless pandering idealists desperate for the validation of a non-existent “community.” We are hard-eyed realists who know what it is to fight against impossible odds to build the largest, longest-lasting, most organized, and most effective gaming community the world has ever seen.” ~ Sion

I have to ask if making a big whiny post about how people are being “judgemental and exclusionary” was part of the “not being spineless pandering idealists desperate for validation” plan. I also wonder if their hard realist eyes notice that neither attacking Pandemic Horde nor fighting low sec groups like TISHUBOX (Psychotic Tendencies. [TISHU] and Snuffed Out [B B C]) in 4 to 1 odds while losing is exactly a “fight against impossible odds.” Oh but of course, the low sec towers. CFC has essentially stumbled into a bar knocking over tables and chairs with their big gut while the low sec groups inside, who usually don’t even get along, turn to each other and say “hey look at this asshole, let’s kick his ass” and do so. But I suppose it’s hard to measure “success” in loss-mails, so towers that Goons can never hope to hold will have to do.

Sion continues with the propaganda spiel stating how the “Imperium” is a rock solid community that has laughed and cried and flown together for many many years. Groups generally make these sort of long posts when they start sensing their own mortality. Same thing happens in the real world where dictators ruling oppressive unstable states make speeches about their strength and unity. It’s not surprising Goon leadership would be doing the same thing. Vily and SUAS, both high profile FCs/leaders in Goons, have left. The PvP core oriented portion within SpaceMonkey’s Alliance [SMA], the Goon’s strongest and most loyal ally in their coalition, has also left. Endie stepped down from his position within the coalition. Poor Endie would probably leave as well if he could. (Hey Endie, The OSS [OSS] is recruiting. Bring Bat Country [-BAT-]) So of course it makes sense that Sion is repeating propaganda lines about how unified and strong everything is. But no one goes around flexing their muscles unless they feel they need to compensate for something else.

And here’s the bottom line to catch from this entire hair-on-fire-Trump-style-trainwreck: Goon leadership has a problem with external criticism, especially through /r/eve because it is a place where they cannot simply out number and overpower the narrative. Even though posts have been pinged for members to “participate” in, they’ve turned so much of the Eve community against them (or at least the portion of the community that participates in the matter) that all they can do is rant impotently on their propaganda site. Heaven knows I’m not trying to incite the masses behind me in order to justify my opinions, I’ll leave that to Mittens and Sion.

Sion ends his article referring to the two stipulations that make a community; shared values and shared a shared cause. I would say that there are shared values and causes by the Eve community. Of course they are not as narrative specific as the goose stepping single hive mind like narrative Sion may stipulate, but it’s a bit arrogant to discard everyone else’s values but your own. I honestly wanted to move on and write about something else but Sion’s contribution is just too much in need of an address. Not only does the Sion contradict himself from one article to the other, he contradicts himself from one paragraph to the next.

He states how a community can’t be all inclusive, yet complains that Goons are being excluded from the community…which doesn’t exist according to him. He complains that “bloggers and pundits” invoke the name of the community for political reasons, and yet he himself gushes over how the ‘glorious leader’ starts his speeches with “my people” and other such cringy terminology. Sion is managing to do with badposting what N3/PL failed to do with spaceships. This delusional rambling propaganda is so cringy that even individuals who’ve only had a mild interest of Goons turn against them. There’s no political move or over all narrative. This, Sion, is you guys running into the room, screaming “notice me” and people recoiling with disgust.

Grr /r/eve.

~ Seraph IX Basarab

93 Comments

  1. Speedy

    Good lord! This Sion person really is some sort of cunt

    December 10, 2015 at 17:57 Reply
    1. Dracvlad

      Actually I think he is desperate, the Goons are starting to die from boredom…

      December 10, 2015 at 19:29 Reply
  2. Psychic Kicks

    I’d like to think that what you mentioned about Low Sec groups who don’t get along banding together to take on the Imperium is actually what Sion is trying to achieve here. Ultimately the Imperium and it’s leadership have a deep love for the game (RMT profits aside of course) and I think they realize that they’ve grown to the point where the only logical thing to do is become the evil empire of Eve essentially challenging the rest of the player base to an endless war. Anything they can do to stoke the flames of hate against them actually strengthens their overall goal, which is to provide content and challenges, loss and victory to their members.

    Ooor Sion could quite simply be so self absorbed and out of touch that he’s going off the rails…

    December 10, 2015 at 18:21 Reply
    1. Seraph IX Basarab

      I think it’s the 2nd one…and when it doesn’t work out the way he imagines it, he’ll claim it’s the first one “I was only pretending to be retarded” style.

      December 10, 2015 at 18:33 Reply
    2. Noisrevbus

      It is certainly the second option, but I think you are reading too much into it. It’s as simple as the ending phrase. There is only one group in the game who enjoy the prospect of an endless war (that sort of twosided environment, narrative and development). Most other groups do not and that has been the clash of ideals since the capital conga of 2008. The amount of attention these details get now, at this point in time, is what is interesting.

      December 10, 2015 at 18:53 Reply
    3. Nyvis

      If people were interested in fighting the CFC, they would have found ways already (there is ways, just join one of their random carebear corps and start awoxing, for example).
      Ignoring them and playing as if the north-west part of new Eden didn’t exist is much easier and more enjoyable.

      When your group is avowedly using boredom and trying to make the game as un-fun as possible for it’s opponents, is there no surprise no one want to interact with them, as long as we have the option?

      Add to that the fact that yes, it’s an option to just ignore them, and you get the current situation.

      December 10, 2015 at 19:06 Reply
    4. Dracvlad

      Fact is they won Eve, that along with the ease of multiple account spying and the like just made the game at a high strategic level nothing better than a desperate search for content aka an arena, I decided that Sov Null Sec was not for me because of that.

      Its this which is the failure of Eve as controlled by the Goons, people can say Grr Goon all they like, but when you make a bed you lay in it, same can also be said of CCP, they run a game which you can not really play at a casual level and if you do you are easy kills for others, many casual players have realised that and have walked.

      Yeah we come back at times, I have come back twice, but each time I come back its for less time.

      In terms of an Eve community, what is it, mainly player killers, scammers and griefers, its a challenge to play in an environment like that and I did enjoy it at times, but after a while it just gets boring when the mechanics are so skewed towards that play style.

      Take Citadels, where is the small option that is a hidden base for casual players? Not the it sit on the overview with a big come wrack me sign, stupid is as stupid is

      December 10, 2015 at 19:27 Reply
      1. The Guest

        “Fact is they won Eve”

        The truth is eve is not like any other game, you don’t ever win. You either continue to play because you enjoy it or stop because you don’t. In some respects you “win at eve” if you are enjoying the game.

        December 10, 2015 at 23:59 Reply
        1. Dracvlad

          It is a vald point you make, what I noticed is that those people who can only put a limited amount of time or effort in to the game will leave it, I could put the time in, but I decided that the effort was not worth it because looking at the game as a strategic game I realised that the enjoyment of building an alliance was so easy to disrupt destroy by the use of multiple plexed accounts, be it infiltration to clean out assets or by giving intel on cap fleets…

          I wanted to play a game that was a challenge, but it has to be a challenge for everyone, so I decided that the game was not a challenge to those that had so much ISK from an imbalance that CCP allowed to buy multiple spy accounts and just get easy kills.

          And that in reality is the issue with Eve, its too easy for certain players to mess with others in the game and it is not because they are necessarily better players then them, though one has to respect that they got themselves into that position, with help from stupid decisions by CCP…

          December 11, 2015 at 22:39 Reply
    5. The Observer

      I honestly don’t think the first point is true, as they keep crying that people are “vilifying” them. Like they needed help being seen as the villain…

      December 11, 2015 at 01:57 Reply
  3. Flacwby

    I’m amazed at the brilliance of Sion and The Mittani. They are playing the 2% of Eve players that run around posting, commenting, and raging and this 2% doesn’t even know it. It’s a well known fact that what Psychic Kicks says (#1) is correct. This is nothing but a ploy and to some extent a real life game for them, and people keep falling for it every single time.

    December 10, 2015 at 18:41 Reply
    1. lol at goon slave

      lol the cowboy goon cock grabber speaks again

      December 10, 2015 at 19:09 Reply
    2. imsosly

      What did we fall for? Paying for Alex Gianturco’s year-long party on our dime? Um, nope, in case you didn’t realize, the KS failed. MISERABLY. They are playing nobody. Perhaps it’s the GSF F1 line members and other CFC blues that are the one’s being played?

      December 10, 2015 at 19:57 Reply
    3. Goobah

      Obviously not brilliant enough. The KS failed, my friend… and Sion’s pissy little tantrums aren’t exactly improving the chances of success for next time, either. Ironically, it would appear that many of the Goons themselves aren’t gullible enough to fork over enough $$$$ for that book project. What Psychic Kicks likes to believe is irrelevant, because so far the only result here (whether it’s an amusing game for them or not) is a shitload of BAD PRESS and that’s never good for a KS. You’d think brilliant people knew that already.

      December 10, 2015 at 22:40 Reply
    4. Chief Gumbo Speaker

      What is this delusional crap? They fucked up, got kicked in the nuts and had their noses rubbed in it to boot. Mittani (sort of) sucked it up and took it like a man (as much as his ego would let him anyway, you could tell it was a PAINFUL effort). Sion is still whining like his date just let the football team run train on her after the prom.
      Best part of it is, we get to kick em in the nuts again, in March. Everyone just figured out how to hurt goon leadership, and I’m sitting back with fresh popcorn and a silly ass grin on my face.

      December 11, 2015 at 18:12 Reply
  4. wheninspace

    I personally love that if you attempt to comment on tmc regarding sions post the comment is deleted within 3 minutes

    December 10, 2015 at 19:09 Reply
    1. Truth

      My IP was banned from commenting on TMC for simply criticizing the CFC. LOL!

      December 10, 2015 at 19:51 Reply
      1. Dick Hauser

        Me too..

        December 10, 2015 at 21:17 Reply
        1. Foo

          You weren’t the only one… and won’t be the last. Some websites would seem to practice a most peculiar dictatorial interpretation of various “Freedoms”….

          December 10, 2015 at 22:13 Reply
          1. Jarhead

            I recently found out my IP had been unbanned. they must really be hurting for page views.

            December 11, 2015 at 10:01
      2. Turd Burd

        Same…. Three times.

        December 12, 2015 at 12:41 Reply
    2. Bobmon

      You are always welcome here (L)

      December 10, 2015 at 22:51 Reply
    3. Seraph IX Basarab

      Join TISHU, bring pizza.

      December 11, 2015 at 07:19 Reply
    4. yeah you’re right. mine got deleted too… motherfuckers

      December 11, 2015 at 11:54 Reply
  5. wheninspace

    Sion went Full Gevlon Goblin in that article….NEVER go Full Gevlon man!!

    December 10, 2015 at 19:11 Reply
    1. TheDarkGevlon

      You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the Gevlon.

      December 10, 2015 at 21:27 Reply
      1. Jevous Encule

        Stop it you two!!! I need to finish my beer without spitting it all over my keyboard!!

        December 11, 2015 at 01:22 Reply
  6. WW

    I actually belive a lot what you said there.
    I have noticed that people no longer believe the CFC bs stories or buy into their propaganda.
    Too many people hate or dont like CFC.
    It is true that although CFC still has large numbers and large amount of titans, they are no longer as strong as 2 years ago. CFC bringing in all those renters including into goonswarm is a sure tell sign. They have had to use these renters to keep their system index up. With 50k members, it funny that they will have problems with that.
    Also SMA a year before did the same and doubled their alliance number with what used to be renters/miners.
    CFC is no longer what it used to be, thats for sure.

    With all respect to Sion, he is but a puppet for the Mittani. Claiming that there is no community is absurd. I think he failed to realise that the reason why the KS did not get off is for the same reason most project fail – the plan. Yes the KS failed at the most basic principal of a project, the plan. I saw it and many others did see it too, the money grabbing was too much to be ignored.
    Then you cant help it with all the other shit storms that followed after regarding TMC and goons.

    Another reason for the failure is, Sion should realise that perhaps there is no longer much of a goon community but more of a community that looks at eve not through goons eyes but more through their alliance and the past actions of the CFC.

    What surprises me even more is that it took this long for this anti CFC sentiment to come out!
    It seems a lot of Karma has been building up for years. Infact i would not be surprised if another KS project fails just cos its sponsored or promoted by the TMC/CFC. Karma can run deep…

    December 10, 2015 at 19:21 Reply
  7. The_Verc

    Opinion: Seraph, stop trying to turn EN24 into a second r/eve.

    December 10, 2015 at 19:50 Reply
    1. Seraph IX Basarab

      Some men just want to watch the world burn.

      December 11, 2015 at 07:19 Reply
  8. Chief Gumbo Speaker

    Sion had very, very big shoes to fill. As a result he is trying far too hard, and is far to quick to turn to typical goonish tactics, creating an enemy, writing a narrative that has only fleeting relation to any kind of truth, and then repeatedly bludgeoning your “enemies” with it again and again. One reason Vile Rat was so loved, and is still so missed is because he brought a level of honesty and candor to goon diplomacy, that is sorely lacking today. Dealing with Sion, one never really has an idea when the lies and backstabbing will begin (or indeed, if they already have).

    He really isn’t very good at his job, and the tone of eve towards goons in general can only partially be laid at the Mittani’s feet. Sion bears quite a bit of the responsibility due to his rather inept “diplomacy”.

    December 10, 2015 at 20:43 Reply
    1. As if Sion would publish that without mittani knowing and agreeing to it. Mittani will of course eventually try to distance himself from Sion. CFC faithful will believe Mittani. The rest of the world will know better.

      December 11, 2015 at 17:44 Reply
      1. Chief Gumbo Speaker

        Don’t kid yourself that Mittens exercises editorial power over every article written. While he was likely on board with pushing back in general, Sion’s last whine-fest was likely vetted by no one but himself. God at least I hope no one else saw that and said “yeah this is good”.

        December 11, 2015 at 19:05 Reply
  9. Foo

    What a self-righteous fucktard… and yes, I mean SION. As if it’s up to him, and him alone, to define what is and what is not “community”, or who might have a better claim in the first place to create that definition. Behold, my fellow EVE denizens… I give you, SION… the Donald Trump of the gaming COMMUNITY. Mittani… do yourself, TMC and “Goons” as a whole a really big favour: put that gimp SION back in his box.

    December 10, 2015 at 21:58 Reply
  10. AUTZ still Plancton

    Summed up my thoughts exactly Seraph, but i would like to add that Sion displays all the signs of the self obsessed and overly entitled youth as if he’s one of those obnoxious Gen-Y teenagers. When he attended EDU 2013 he was just as cring worthy and spent the longest 20 minutes of his life being heckled off the stage by the entire Aussie crowd. When he finally gets off the podium everyone cheers and the dumb fucker thought we were cheering his monotone diatribe.

    December 10, 2015 at 23:00 Reply
    1. Afk forum

      Hahaha… Thank you Sir for that valuable in-sight

      December 11, 2015 at 05:02 Reply
    2. UknowWho

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxPAP7RiwQc

      Here’s the Eve Down Under Presentation – – – You Decide –

      December 11, 2015 at 18:13 Reply
  11. The Guest

    This Seraph dude seems to just leech of others misery. I don’t think I have seen a positive contribution to the game or community from him. I’m no supporter of the goons but at least they were trying to do something worthwhile despite some of the flaws.

    December 10, 2015 at 23:45 Reply
    1. wheninspace

      Actually seraph assisted with some of the first npsi communities in the game and was good at it. I know cause I was there.

      December 11, 2015 at 03:08 Reply
      1. Seraph IX Basarab

        Shhh don’t say nice things. It ruins my persona here.

        December 11, 2015 at 04:02 Reply
        1. PhReaKin Stoner

          You cant hide behind a veil of lies and deceit claimed upon you by no bodies and ner-do-wells forever buddy. I too have been witness to some of your nice but ill continue to let haters hate. Makes for a fun read.

          December 11, 2015 at 14:07 Reply
        2. bonzikat

          Dont forget to mention, Seraph murders small cut fluffy animals with his teeth.

          There Seraph persona restored.

          December 11, 2015 at 22:07 Reply
          1. bonzikat

            cute*

            December 11, 2015 at 22:08
        3. Anon

          It wasn’t nice, npsi is totally pointless stupid shit, taking part in it fits your persona like a condom.

          December 12, 2015 at 09:40 Reply
  12. TheCycle

    Sion is a ass hat, however Seraph you’re being a jackass by giving him one more place to read about himself.

    December 11, 2015 at 00:25 Reply
    1. Chief Gumbo Speaker

      No, it drives goons crazy that they can’t shape the narrative. By having an alternative platform that is not subject to goon censorship, En24 is actually doing eve a service.

      December 11, 2015 at 15:54 Reply
      1. NullSecHobo

        Just cause you keep posting the same thing doesn’t mean it’ll come true on the 19th try.

        December 12, 2015 at 00:09 Reply
        1. Anon

          Oh looksie here, a gewnie accusing people of posting the same thing 19 times… the salt with a touch of irony is in the air…

          December 12, 2015 at 09:38 Reply
  13. Kamar Raimo

    This post by Sion was so inane on so many levels.

    I can’t even begin about the inappropriate use of the word community.

    People have said that he is doing this on purpose to fuel the Grr Goons mentality in an effort to create more of a reason for others to bring content to their coalition. If that is his purpose I gt the impression he failed horribly. People are simply laughing, raging, sperging and smirking at him and his clique but they still wont go and attack Deklein.

    If I gauge the reaction from the supposedly non-existing community, it mostly seems like people are taking the GSF leadership less and less serious as eve players and just see them as metagaming tryhards who try to manipulate their own community – which they incidentally do acknowledge as being genuine.

    December 11, 2015 at 01:12 Reply
    1. PhReaKin Stoner

      No need to shoot ships when you can text pvp. And they are bad at both, just so happens text pvp you get a fair battle and cant get blobbed.

      December 11, 2015 at 14:04 Reply
      1. Kamar Raimo

        “just so happens text pvp you get a fair battle and cant get blobbed.”

        I guess it also helps that they can’t get anything by whining. Currently they are whining that reddit is not being fair, but it’s not like in EVE where game developers will nerf something if enough people whine about it loud enough.

        December 11, 2015 at 14:47 Reply
  14. Still Confused

    >SMA
    >PvP
    lmao what the actual fuck, is this some alternate reality?

    December 11, 2015 at 02:29 Reply
    1. Afk forum

      Nope. A strong core group from SMA left to form Chaos Theory. And are not in friendly terms with the Imperium

      December 11, 2015 at 04:58 Reply
    2. Kin

      Chaos Theory. is actually doing really good. We in Fountain core love to fight against them, and they’re actually good.

      December 11, 2015 at 09:38 Reply
      1. F-Core Guy

        If you like to fight why did you run away from our fleet yesterday? 🙁

        December 11, 2015 at 15:51 Reply
        1. Kin

          You ran from our Rattlesnakes, that means 1 : 1 ? 🙂

          December 12, 2015 at 07:11 Reply
  15. nick

    Tldr oh and the r/EVE post too tldr

    No body gives a shit. It’s a game and you need a fking life if either side puts shit like that out into the real world.

    Give me battle stats and interesting kills and keep your wannabe political ideological crap to your self.

    December 11, 2015 at 05:12 Reply
    1. Nick is a dumbass

      Calm down Nick. Seems like you care more than anyone else here. If you don’t like it, don’t read it. How could you be so dumb?

      December 11, 2015 at 15:30 Reply
  16. Avery Bittervet

    It’s so much more fun to talk about Eve these days than actually play it.

    December 11, 2015 at 06:45 Reply
  17. Grunt

    Vily was never “high profile,” and SUAS comes and goes all the time.

    December 11, 2015 at 07:01 Reply
    1. Anon

      Didn’t want that FC anyway.

      December 12, 2015 at 09:34 Reply
  18. Kin

    So you think the end of the Goon era is near???

    December 11, 2015 at 09:36 Reply
  19. Jarhead

    So have any other alliances fail cascaded because of a kickstarter? How about a failcascade after RMT operations got outed?

    December 11, 2015 at 09:57 Reply
  20. Zappity

    Sion turned me into a newt.

    December 11, 2015 at 12:41 Reply
    1. PhReaKin Stoner

      Quickly, Detach your tail and run the other way.

      December 11, 2015 at 14:10 Reply
    2. Muul Udonii

      Did you get better?

      December 13, 2015 at 19:40 Reply
      1. Zappity

        Finally! Yes.

        December 13, 2015 at 22:04 Reply
  21. Karolinka

    Honestly,
    I had pretty neutral opinion about Sion goons ‘propaganda’ and always was
    taking it with a little grain of salt. But now I have a strong feeling that
    this guy is an utter idiot and he has a problem to comprehend basic definitions…unless
    this whole “feeding” is another troll joke and he is just laughing, but it does not
    look like that.

    December 11, 2015 at 13:05 Reply
  22. PhReaKin Stoner

    Isnt this what they wanted all along? To be the bad guys who are bad at eve and shitposting? To shun all others who dont fly under the goon banner? Kinda hard to go back on it now….

    December 11, 2015 at 14:09 Reply
  23. Viince_Snetterton

    We can laugh at the incompetence, pettiness, and pouting childness of the current goon propaganda drive, but bottom line, their standard day-to-day RMT operations, (the Kickstarter disaster appeared to be an new idea for RMT) remains intact. goon leadership is making as much money off of the backs of the player base as they were 3 months ago.

    goons’ position in-game and with CCP remains as strong as ever, maybe stronger. Outside of an asteroid hitting a particular house in Wisconsin during one of the high level goon parties, there appears to be nothing on the horizon to assail the goons’ stranglehold on the game.

    December 11, 2015 at 14:42 Reply
    1. Rizzo

      Show proof or shut the fuck up. Every day there are fuckheads like you throwing around the RMT accusation on the Imperium yet not one person has been able to provide any legitimate proof of any RMT going on.

      December 11, 2015 at 17:26 Reply
      1. NullSecHobo

        He’s around for the same reason Trump is a thing.

        December 12, 2015 at 00:05 Reply
      2. youguyshaveitsotwisted

        man you guys are SO mad about RMT accusations. I dont get it,

        what part of Alex Gianturco encouraged someone to commit suicide doesnt scale for you?

        theres a million problems with Goons, but worrying about RMT accusations should not be high on your list, being shit humanbeings should be. (and there’s proof of that son)

        December 14, 2015 at 16:52 Reply
  24. Garr-Song Mishi

    No sign of Imperium/CFC folding whatsoever, and although a couple of groups left SMA our numbers are as good as ever.

    December 11, 2015 at 15:39 Reply
    1. Fartolio

      Sadly for you, just the numbers. Winet is back, so quality dropped.

      December 11, 2015 at 16:46 Reply
    2. C2H5OH

      The infidels are hanging themselves at the gates of Bagdad amiright?

      December 13, 2015 at 11:06 Reply
    3. except now with Bat Country leaving …derp.

      December 14, 2015 at 14:48 Reply
  25. jgray1979

    Opinion: Stop reading r/eve.

    December 11, 2015 at 17:19 Reply
    1. NullSecHobo

      ^^ This – a significant chunk of posters are either people who haven’t logged on in the longest time, or newly graduated newbies who think they know anything. The shit people get excited about the CFC there is just ..embarrassing.

      December 12, 2015 at 00:08 Reply
  26. Kinis Deren

    INB4 Sion Scumitomo 2016: “Didn’t want that coalition anyways, it was full of pubbies”.

    December 11, 2015 at 17:23 Reply
    1. AFK

      Didn’t want those pubbie dollars anyway.

      December 11, 2015 at 23:43 Reply
  27. bonzikat

    Hey, this article and sion’s have something in common. I got through the first paragraph, then realize the author is a raving lunatic that craves attention and acceptance from his peers. Be that the community or “community”. Seraph stop feeding the sion it just lowers you to his level, hes like a small child if you ignore him long enough he will eat a lego and choke to death.

    December 11, 2015 at 18:45 Reply
    1. Chief Gumbo Speaker

      It drives goons crazy that they can’t shape the narrative. By having
      an alternative platform that is not subject to goon censorship, En24 is
      actually doing eve a service. Seraph may be those things you claim, but he is doing gods work right now.

      December 11, 2015 at 19:24 Reply
      1. NullSecHobo

        Or, goons don’t give a shit and laugh at us as we go pants-on-head retarded at every perceived slight. Thanks to people like Seraph and GG..

        December 12, 2015 at 00:04 Reply
        1. Aquarius

          Judging by recent events on TMC, I highly doubt this. Sion would not write such silly nonsense if they did not care what other thought about Goons. IMO, Goons are trying (badly) to fix their PR image so when March roles around, they will have better luck with that The Fountain War Kickstarter 2.0. Either that, or the stresses of leading a pixilated space empire are finally starting to make Goon leadership crack under the stress (doubtful).

          December 12, 2015 at 02:04 Reply
        2. Goobah

          Newsflash: most Goons don’t give a rats ass about Mittens or how he pays his rent. Mittens has to learn that shitting all over his own troops when allegedly apologizing and “owning” the failure, is not a “Good Idea (TM)”. This may seem like a clever management and empowerment technique, but it’s really just an angry young man getting pissed because he’s just discovered most people are much smarter than his ego gave them credit for — at least where their own money is concerned. I’m sure he can go back to flipping burgers if he has to.

          December 13, 2015 at 21:40 Reply
      2. [insert Name]

        fuck you sir, now i must get off my lazy ass on my day off and go to the store to buy shit to make seafood gumbo.

        December 12, 2015 at 06:26 Reply
  28. seraph

    i’m so edgy, look at me.

    December 11, 2015 at 19:04 Reply
  29. Drogo Drogos

    Think Sion got exactly what he wanted.

    More Grr Goons, just no balls to do something about it then write and talk bullshit.

    December 11, 2015 at 20:09 Reply
    1. Chief Gumbo Speaker

      Yes, I’m sure he and mittens are reveling in the very public failure, yup, you nailed it, no doubt.

      December 11, 2015 at 21:17 Reply
  30. AFK

    This game is just too fucking weird now.

    December 11, 2015 at 22:18 Reply
    1. Viince_Snetterton

      That is because the meta-game has become more influential than the game itself. For many, that was always the case, but now it permeates too much of the player base.

      December 12, 2015 at 02:39 Reply
  31. One Two Three

    This is no longer a game for Sion and Shittani, its a business. They are losing money from the negative (deservedly so) perception of the cfc.

    December 12, 2015 at 10:20 Reply

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