Sieh system, Domain region. On the 22nd of October at 21:50 EVE Standard Time, forces belonging to Providence Bloc clashed with Honorable Third Party [THIRD] over a tower in the system, only to be dropped on by Northern Coalition. [NC] and Pandemic Legion [-10.0] forces.

The tower in question was part of two towers reinforced by Providence Bloc in the system the previous day. While Providence Bloc Fleet Commanders maintain this was done in order to provoke a fight from Honorable Third Party and their allies, sources within Honorable Third Party claim this was retribution for killing Nihilists Social Club [NULL] ratting Battleships a few hours before.

The So-Called Reason for the Attack on the Honorable Third Party Tower

Regardless of the actual reason, it was clear both sides were gearing up for a fight. Providence Bloc assembled an 80 pilot Apocalypse Navy Issue Battleship fleet with 4 Triage Archon Carriers. Honorable Third Party had a 25 pilot Proteus Strategic Cruiser fleet which included 3 Triage Carriers of its own. Northern Coalition., which was called in by Honorable Third Party assembled a 65 pilot Proteus fleet as well. Pandemic Legion was also contacted and had prepared a separate 70 pilot Proteus fleet.

Honorable Third Party’s fleet remained docked in the system’s station, as it wasn’t clear which tower Providence Bloc would attack first. As the towers were about to exit reinforced mode, Providence Bloc bridged into the system in a safe location and warped on top of one of the towers. Once the Providence Bloc fleet was set on the tower, Honorable Third Party un-docked its fleet and warped on top of the Providence Bloc force, signaling the start of the fight.

As the battle started at point blank range, a cynosural beacon was quickly lit in the middle and into the system bridged the Northern Coalition. fleet. It linked up with the Honorable Third Party force and the two started brawling the Providence Bloc fleet. However, as the minutes ticked by, it was soon discovered that both forces were able to tank each other relatively well. The two sides did exchange a few losses, but it became quite apparent that the force assembled on the Honorable Third Party side was not enough to break the 4 Triage Carriers belonging to Providence Bloc.

The Two Sides Fighting over the Tower

The Two Sides Fighting over the Tower

Facing mounting pressure as the assembled fleet bled Logistics ships and even lost one of its Triage Carriers, Northern Coalition. Fleet Commanders considered bringing in Dreadnoughts in order to break the Providence Bloc’s Logistics wing. However, before they could do that, Pandemic Legion’s fleet bridged to the grid at a perch from the tower. The fleet had been delayed due to a skirmish near its staging system, making it late for the engagement. Once in the system, it warped at close range of the fight and started adding its own considerable firepower to Honorable Third Party’s side.

With the Pandemic Legion reinforcements present, Providence Bloc Fleet Commanders realized the battle was lost. Outnumbered and outgunned, they made the call for the fleet to align towards the station, use their MicroJumpDrives to escape the enemy fleet and dock up immediately. While a few pilots got caught and subsequently destroyed, the majority of the fleet was able to escape, leaving behind the 4 Triage Carriers. One by one they were overwhelmed by the combined damage output of the three fleets and destroyed, leaving Honorable Third Party and its allies to claim victory.

Honorable Third Party and Its Allies in the Process of Destroying the Remaining Providence Bloc Triage Carriers

Honorable Third Party and Its Allies in the Process of Destroying the Remaining Providence Bloc Triage Carriers

Once done looting the field, the allied fleets departed, each to its staging system, leaving Providence Bloc to extract home without further incident.

The Battle from the PoV of Northern Coalition,’s Proteus

Battle report for the Sieh system can be found here.

The battle lasted 15 minutes and saw approximately 240 pilots in the system near the end of the fighting, with Time Dilation not reported by any of the parties involved.

Providence Bloc lost 4 Carriers and 10 Battleships. With other support ships the total lost reached 18 ships for 14.73 Bil ISK. Honorable Third Party and its allies lost 1 Carrier and 3 Strategic Cruisers. With other support ships the total lost reached 9 ships for 4.9 Bil ISK damage.

*All Screenshots used in this article were supplied by amymuffmuff with his explicit permission.

Salivan Harddin is a member of Reikoku, Pandemic Legion, and covers battles across New Eden


  1. JohnDrees

    Good fight proviblock. Thanks for the assist NC. and PL was fun.

    October 23, 2015 at 15:43 Reply
    1. Provibloc member

      even though being on the loosing site it was fun, so gf should be all what’s said

      October 23, 2015 at 18:21 Reply
      1. Sp3ctr380

        Finally someone gets it. 10/10 would fight you again. GF man.

        October 23, 2015 at 18:27 Reply
  2. literally wat

    lol NC. and PL a bunch of losers. 3 v 1 eh?

    October 23, 2015 at 15:45 Reply
    1. JohnDrees

      The 1 you’re referring to is of course not 1 at all and is in fact a coalition of many. So, if it eases your mind consider it like this; Providence Coalition had an engagement against Northern Honorable Pandemic Party “coalition”. The game is not designed for “fair fights” but if hypothetically it was, any one of PL NC or HTP would do just fine against any of the individual alliances that make up proviblock. If that weren’t the case it’s likely you wouldn’t see them in such a massive coalition in the first place.

      October 23, 2015 at 16:02 Reply
      1. literally wat

        Howcome you have 3 times the numbers then? lmao

        October 23, 2015 at 16:19 Reply
        1. JohnDrees

          You should ask proviblock. They intended to have three times HTP numbers. Don’t be of any illusion that getting counteblobbed removes the fact that they intended to bring “max dudes” from their coalition of many alliances to engage HTP, a lone alliance, who they are well aware have far less people. It’s not a bad thing that they wanted to bring maximum firepower against honorable third party, we are costing their members significant isk. It’s just silly to complain about the numbers game being turned around on you guys. If we had exactly even numbers and we still won, would you be complaining that it wasn’t fair because proviblock has less pvp oriented membership? To what depths are you willing to make excuses?

          October 23, 2015 at 16:26 Reply
          1. Fardendur .
            October 23, 2015 at 17:45
          2. abc123

            Does anyone ever wonder why when a dog shits on the ground fly’s come out of no where to congregate on top of the shit. Welcome to the pile of Shit JohnDrees. He hot drop miners and ratter and tells himself hes doing Eve a service. Then when someone come with a shovel to clean the shit out more Fly’s show up (NCDot/PL).
            He and HTP prey on the helpless and naïve players in Provi. His Kill Boards show it. But when the naïve players get together to deal with this shit bag and kick his sand castle in, he reaches for the batphone. It’s what punks do. He does not want the SOV. He does not want the fight. He and the likes of him only want to pick on the jerry kids of Eve. So whatever spin JohnDrees puts on it just comes down to his punk ass knows whos Sand Castle to kick and feel good about his game play and who dick to suck as not to get steam rolled and lose face to his HTP minions.

            October 24, 2015 at 01:01
          3. Sp3ctr380

            I’d take this seriously if you actually had the balls the to say this to us without hiding behind “abc123”. Again, us and provi had fun. it was a good fight, nothing else.

            October 24, 2015 at 02:56
          4. JohnDrees

            Yeah, poor little Proviblock. They just wanted to come have a nice casual fight against Honorable Third Party, with their modest little NAVY APOC FLEET with 4 TRIAGE CARRIERS and DREADS ON STANDBY. Quaint.
            Lets be a bit more realistic than that, Proviblock is a gigantic sov holding entity with thousands of players and YEARS to earn cash from the space they live in. They have huge Intel-networks with hundreds of contributing players, they are in combat quite regularly and many of them have practice in PVP. Buying into this notion that they are some poor little underdog is just silly and misguided.

            As far as who’s sandcastle to kick…we kick Proviblock most often because you generate the very highest grade tears which we consume in our new alliance pint glasses (seriously they’re on our website, check em out). We have spent time in other people’s space but it’s just not the same. We love you and we’re never going to leave you.

            October 24, 2015 at 06:35
        2. JustAnotherPanda

          I don’t know: how would a smaller group with a smaller memberbase, with more accounts and chars per player than the bigger group, have more active people…?

          October 23, 2015 at 16:26 Reply
  3. Letalis Metalis Omier

    so NC. grabbed the PL phone again? Expected.

    October 23, 2015 at 15:51 Reply
    1. JustAnotherPanda

      I do realise reading in stead of looking at pictures can, at times be, hard, but still I’m pretty sure you’ve got an extra chromosome.

      October 23, 2015 at 15:56 Reply
      1. Letalis Metalis Omier

        Well, I look at NC. history, and to be quite frank NC. would not be a power house if PL was not there to save them all the time. Well I say that for as of recently, I do not belittle PL but lately NC. has permitted noob super pilots on field, make mistakes more then often and usually call PL to save them a little too often. Eve is not a fair game, I understand that. Though if you want to have some face around in New Eden you need to be able to handle some fights on your own.

        October 23, 2015 at 16:01 Reply
        1. JustAnotherPanda

          Your view of history seems quite distorted.

          As for the matter at hand, let’s try a shorter version of what happened:
          1) THIRD drops blops on NULL ratters
          2) NULL gets big bad papa provibloc to RF some THIRD towers in order to teach THIRD a lesson. Provi apparently uses caps ‘cos, hey, “there’s noone around that can really fight us”
          3) THIRD contacts both PL and NC for the towers’ exiting RF, expecting provi to again use caps
          4) NC and PL separately make their way to the system. NC enters first and exchanges fire with provi, but neither side is able to really punch through the other sides reps.
          5) After some time PL arrives, being late due to a fight en route to the system.
          6) Provi-forces start losing their Napocs, decide to MJD their remaining forces off and leave their carriers to die.

          October 23, 2015 at 16:24 Reply
          1. Haha

            It’s almost like you read the damn article! Well done. (Not sarcastic)

            October 23, 2015 at 16:28
          2. JustAnotherPanda

            … or maybe I was on the field?

            October 23, 2015 at 16:52
          3. Haha

            Even better!

            October 23, 2015 at 17:05
          4. Letalis Metalis Omier

            exactly where NC. is at, is where you find PL. NC. can’t contend with provi bloc on their own? I thought NC. was a strong power house! Wait that’s right, they need PL for that.

            October 23, 2015 at 22:16
  4. Active Freighter Pilot

    tl;dr: Provi smacks HTP, HTP calls NC., Provi smacks HTP+NC., HTP calls PL, finally HTP+NC.+PL beats Provi.

    Provi confirmed new superpower in EVE?

    October 23, 2015 at 15:58 Reply
    1. JohnDrees

      Yeah, think of us three as a new “coalition” but only for the duration of that engagement. We only need like 10 more alliances and we’ll have the same number of alliances as Proviblock.

      October 23, 2015 at 16:04 Reply
      1. Chris Evans

        Because number of alliances = active pilots, right? :^)

        It was a 3 v 1 in both numbers and entities. PL and NC are their own coalitions when it comes to that. Don’t try to spin it.

        October 23, 2015 at 16:10 Reply
        1. JohnDrees

          Well, a couple points come to mind here, it’s not the responsibility of the enemies to ensure that your pilots actually showe’d up to fight. That’s proviblock’s problem, you HAVE more people, if you couldn’t keep them actime or interested it’s nobody’s fault but provibock.

          Secondly, it was a a blob crushing a group which had minimal capacity to escalate further in this engagement. Which, was really the tables being completely turned wasn’t it? Considering the proviblock decided it would match 70 pilots into sieh where we had 20 or so in fleet and begin an engagement. It’s not a complaint from me, just consider the double standard you’re operating from.

          October 23, 2015 at 16:18 Reply
  5. Paddok

    argh provi are nubs and cant fight but snif snif we need help pro pvp at ist best

    October 23, 2015 at 16:07 Reply
  6. Chest hair waving in the wind

    AHAHAHA what a joke NC and PL have become. You have to gang up three to one on fucking Proviblock in order to win? AHAHAHAHAHA!

    Provi impressive showing, kudos.

    October 23, 2015 at 16:13 Reply
    1. Silvia Heart [GLORY]

      As much as i like shitting on PL and NC, it was an NAPOC fleet with triage it deserved all the attention it got. Its not like they were fighting T1 cruisers and at some point someone has to call out tards like you.

      – You’re a whiny bitch you are likely one of 3 things a goon, a highsec carebear or a random renter or NPC nobody.

      – Provi has been a capable force for a while now and should not be taken lightly or be belittled.

      – PL and NCs strength (particularly NC) have most of their strength in caps, only a token few were dropped, they didn’t go all out for this clash with provi not even close.

      This is eve, don’t whine about fair fights, you’ll only look more retarded then you do while leaning over you keyboard struggling to breath you dumb neckbeard. Now go back to mining and telling your fellow mouth breathers how bad ass you are.

      …………NC is shit, couldn’t help myself.

      October 23, 2015 at 18:14 Reply
    2. PhReaKin Stoner

      Provi is a coalition of like 1000 allices. Revise your statement scrub.

      October 23, 2015 at 18:57 Reply
  7. Chief Gumbo Speaker

    Wait Honorable Thirds actually stuck around for a toe to toe fight?

    That is newsworthy on its own.

    October 23, 2015 at 16:30 Reply
  8. Elo

    160 vs. 80

    I’d call it blobbing, but that’s standard practice for NC/PL and their HTP pets.

    October 23, 2015 at 16:34 Reply
  9. Vin Diesel

    Mfw provi bloc complains about getting blobbed, quite ironic don’t you think?

    October 23, 2015 at 16:42 Reply
  10. Digby

    Move on, nothing to see here, just BR about the 3rd party kings of eve

    October 23, 2015 at 16:57 Reply
  11. as always another story that has no verification or what so ever… especially the start,

    as much as HTP thinks or claim its a retaliation of us against them for killing the ratter in nullsec… which btw I hate to disappoint u, it isn’t.

    Provi have been bored and looking for stuff to shoot, waaayyy before HTP even managed to drop the NULL nerd in 2 mach + paladin. so HTP asset were already on the list long before that and so is other provi red assets.

    just so happen that we were bored our selves and just joined the fleet, cuz why not?

    as for the fight, it was actually a good fight, until the PL part kinda bolster their number from near equal number to more than double :p

    NC.’s presence there was not a deal breaker, PL is/was

    @Salivan Harddin, confirm ur claims first before posting 🙂

    October 23, 2015 at 16:58 Reply
    1. Psysp

      Well i mean its not like he claimed it was fact, if you read the article it clearly say’s “sources within Honorable Third Party claim this was retribution for killing Nihilists Social Club [NULL]” and “The So-Called Reason for the Attack on the Honorable Third Party Tower “

      October 23, 2015 at 17:44 Reply
      1. Proud Provdence Resident

        Nobody ever reads that shit for what it means.

        October 23, 2015 at 17:51 Reply
    2. Seraph IX Basarab

      25 and 70 is near equal according to you?

      October 23, 2015 at 20:10 Reply
  12. Vaximillian

    “CCP should scale back the phoebe jump changes because ….. ” Annnnnd we have another attempt by smaller or medium sized forces to actually play the GAME of EVE Online and once again NC. and PL jump in and pick a side and start killing everything and punching people like the 10 year old walking into the kindergarten classroom. There is nothing that CCP has done in the past FIVE YEARS that continues to hurt this game more than the entitled attitude of the few who don’t actually build or accomplish anything themselves but only exist to try to destroy anything anyone else tries to accomplish. Pick any MMO and you will find the lvl 50 guy who sits at a spot and kills the n00bs and rubs one out and thinks he is hilarious. Dumber than a bag of hair and all the intelligence of a grape.

    October 23, 2015 at 18:14 Reply
    1. Seraph IX Basarab

      dropping 70+ ships on a small alliance fleet of 25 = actually playing….right.

      October 23, 2015 at 20:09 Reply
      1. go provi

        Look who’s ass is talking…
        They had timers. They could call allies.

        But why call allies if you can just call both whores of eve by pretending to be outnumbered poor victim of big bad provi?
        NC and PL should just try to get that dick outta their mouths.

        October 23, 2015 at 20:24 Reply
        1. Seraph IX Basarab

          Nobody is obligated to fight fair you ass chapped pillow biter. You can’t whine about someone blobbing you if you in fact bring 3x the numbers of the person you are attacking.

          October 23, 2015 at 20:34 Reply
          1. go provi

            Nobody deserves not being called a fat pussy for trying to pretend something they did wasn’t a most dishonorable form of blobbing ever done.

            The asshats just downsized their fleet on purpose to pretend being a victim, with the allies they were perfectly capable to make an equal fleet, but they didn’t, just so they can get free help from whores of eve.

            All conflicts that were supposed to be local are now down to “who batphones whores first and fields less ships in pretendence”, and everyone who thinks this is good is a shiteater.

            October 23, 2015 at 20:45
          2. Seraph IX Basarab

            Bruh….provi brought 3x the numbers of HTP…shhhh

            October 23, 2015 at 20:47
          3. go provi

            Wrong, HTP purposely brought 1/2x the numbers of provi to get whores of eve to help them.
            shhh whore

            October 23, 2015 at 20:48
          4. Seraph IX Basarab

            So HTP brought less people on their fleet so they could “purposely” bring NCdot and PL? Do you have proof?

            October 23, 2015 at 21:05
          5. JohnDrees

            Haha, yes we intentionally sandbagged it for moral superiority. Let’s say that insanity were true, obviously after the blob trap had been sprung we would have committed the rest of our guys to the fight as well. It’s not like any of our guys want to sit out when there are provibloc archons dying.

            October 23, 2015 at 21:17
          6. Yuri

            You’re retarded

            October 23, 2015 at 21:25
          7. Sp3ctr380

            I’m surprised we can even manage to get half your numbers. Does it still upset you that you don’t respawn with all your stuff in a graveyard? Seriously stop being a little bitch and actually join the fleet next time because you are saltier than anyone from provi that attended the fight. It was a good fight. Both sides had fun and that should have been apparent but you were too busy scooping that sand back into your vagina to notice.

            October 23, 2015 at 21:26
          8. Salt Shaker IV

            mfw you think htp can field close to those numbers 😛

            October 23, 2015 at 21:29
          9. fdafsd

            So, if the pvpers had more numbers, ncdot and pl would have sided with provi ratters instead?

            Everyone shoots provi because provi are hapless bears – know your place in the food chain.

            October 24, 2015 at 01:46
          10. PLonkers

            Has PL managed to win a fight against anyone other than Provi the last 2 years?


            October 23, 2015 at 21:13
          11. yierharh

            Whoever they defeated in the last 2 years, odds are you were on the losing side.
            Dont play Mplayer games if you can’t handle a loss.
            Stick to singleplayer games.

            October 23, 2015 at 22:11
  13. MajorButtHurt

    If you could sell Salt in Jita Provi block would be the richest coalitnion

    October 23, 2015 at 18:38 Reply
    1. Fardendur .
      October 23, 2015 at 19:06 Reply
  14. PhReaKin Stoner

    the battle lasted 15 minutes. then everyone went home and provi extracted.

    October 23, 2015 at 18:54 Reply
  15. go provi

    Oh look, another one of Salivan Harddin’s tasteless bs copy&paste dungpiles…

    October 23, 2015 at 20:14 Reply
  16. Frans Bovens

    proud of provi, no matter how you turn it, htp, nc ,and pl, versus provi, provi won the second it started, even if they lost it shipwise. and it was also planned and set up, vyno s and everything, also sharing reps and so. gf provi dudes, proud!

    October 23, 2015 at 21:55 Reply
    1. Haha

      ^^^^ This is what it looks like when someone has completely bought into some propaganda. Pretty dumb looking isn’t it?

      October 23, 2015 at 22:08 Reply
      1. Seraph IX Basarab

        Isn’t double think funny? Losing is winning! Welping is victory! 1984 Eve style.

        October 23, 2015 at 22:16 Reply
    2. Midtown East

      Are you drunk?

      October 24, 2015 at 07:11 Reply
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