An entrepreneur in the video game industry, MarkeeDragon, has been involved in gaming as a business since 1997, when he played Ultima: Online. Before ‘RMT” (Real Money Trading) was a coined phrase, MarkeeDragon discovered a loophole in Ultima’s game-time codes. Selling in-game currency and items for real money was not frowned upon back in the days of Ultima: Online, and MarkeeDragon realized he could trade Ultima: Online game-time codes for gold, and then resell the gold for a profit.

This became very profitable for MarkeeDragon, and he eventually turned RMT into a business. When EVE Online was released, MarkeeDragon gave it a shot, but he just couldn’t get into the game. He did however, realizing the potential of the game, add EVE time codes (PLEX), to his store. While he couldn’t sell the PLEX for real life money, he instead focused on digital distribution of the game-time codes to locations where CCP were unable to reach. Suprisingly, this bussiness also turned out to be very popular. At the time of the creation of this business, EVE time-codes were only available physically, so he had to purchase the codes, have them delivered from Iceland, and then type the codes in manually. Over time, the business grew, and CCP named and official business partner.  To this date, has sold $45-$50million worth of EVE game-time codes.

MarkeeDragon wasn’t always an EVE Online player though.  His passion for EVE was born when he accepted a 30-day challenge. He dedicated himself to learning as much as he could about EVE within 30 days and become as good at EVE as he could. CCP promoted the event, and MarkeeDragon recorded all of it. He received a lot of help from the community, and that is where his passion for EVE came from. CCP even featured MarkeeDragon in a spotlight, where you can find more details of the 30-day challenge. [video]

MarkeeDragon is also a successful EVE streamer on He streams EVE six days a week, and his channel has an average of 400 viewers. With the release of Youtube Gaming today, MarkeeDragon found himself featured on Youtube’s home page, and found himself with 6,500 viewers including CCP staff commenting in the live stream, where they helped answer questions. EVE is not a popular game on Youtube, and for MarkeeDragon to be featured for 8 hours today was a great thing for EVE. He was planning on streaming until he either fell asleep or was not the number one featured channel. That’s when things took a turn for the worse.

MarkeeDragon found himself victim of ‘Swatting’, where a person calls the Police claiming that the streamer is holding someone hostage, or has killed someone, causing a SWAT team to storm the stream.  The Wikipedia definition of swatting is:

Swatting is the act of tricking emergency services into deploying an Emergency Response Team based on the false report of an ongoing critical situation

During his stream, he heard shouting in the house, he went on to say

My house is not a shouting house, the only time anyone shouts in my house is to tell a cat to get off the counter. So I went out into the hallway to see what was happening, and as I left the room, there were officers pointing guns at me. They handcuffed me, and had me kneel outside, and they cleared the whole house. My son who was asleep, he’s 22, but they handcuffed him too. Fortunately they didn’t handcuff my younger children, but I spent 15 -20 minutes in handcuffs, while they figured out what was happening.  One of the officers was friends with my son, and as I went on to explain what swatting was, he agreed with me. The older officers had not heard of ‘swatting’.

It all worked out ok, but someone had called the local police saying that I had killed my  wife, was holding my children hostage, and had a pipe-bomb ready to kill myself. And these weren’t just handguns they were using, they were assault rifles. And things can go wrong very quickly. Fortunately, I have experience with law enforcement, and knew exactly what to do. So now the local authorities now that I stream, and troll calls may happen, and to not take them seriously. I had never considered myself being swatted before, and of course, it happens today when I am streaming to a wider audience.

In the video featured, you can hear Thor, my Icelandic friend, talking about how I received a phone call 15 minutes before the police arrived at my house, and you can hear Thor say that whoever called me was probably the person responsible, making sure they had the right number. But of course, the media heard of it, and they arrived too. It was an uncomfortable evening, but it takes a lot to shake me. At least the local authorities are now aware of the issue, and hopefully it wont happen again.

Thankfully, MarkeeDragon is OK, and nothing seriously happened tonight, but the situation could have been completely different. He advises that anyone thinking of streaming, if you happen to become popular, and you are receiving an increase of viewers, you should probably notify law enforcement that ‘swatting’ happens, and that you may find yourself a victim of it.

To the person responsible for what happened tonight, he simply states


Swatting may be seen as a joke, but it can have potentially serious consequences, and you can find out more about swatting here


  1. whitescar

    Only a matter of time until someone gets shot and only then will it stop being funny for some sad, pathetic people.

    August 28, 2015 at 03:24 Reply
    1. CBJL

      People have already been killed due to ‘swatting’. Still doesn’t stop the little bastards.

      August 28, 2015 at 04:06 Reply
    2. bad

      I really don’t get how you think that the people who are swatting won’t find it funny when the person gets shot too? Yes, people are that cruel.

      August 28, 2015 at 09:43 Reply
  2. Soft Insanity

    Hope they catch the bastard

    August 28, 2015 at 03:29 Reply
  3. I don’t understand how this could be viewed as funny.

    August 28, 2015 at 03:31 Reply
    1. Deifirtep

      Usually adolescents still stuck in Jr. High mode. Unfortunately, some people never grow out of the idiocy.

      August 28, 2015 at 03:55 Reply
  4. Jason Ender
    has sold $45-$50million worth of EVE game-time codes – See more at:
    That is a shit load

    August 28, 2015 at 04:56 Reply
    1. Typhoon

      But he has also bought $45-$50 million worth of EVE game-time codes from CCP as well. The profit is in the details 😉

      That said, he’s probably not hurting for money, but I think it’s great to see someone turn their passion into something they can live off. Especially seeing as how CCP supports it.

      August 28, 2015 at 05:09 Reply
      1. alcari

        2% profit on 50 million is still a million bucks 😉

        August 28, 2015 at 08:20 Reply
        1. Ezzy

          Minus taxes, spread over several years. So there’s that.

          August 29, 2015 at 22:47 Reply
  5. Daito Endashi

    Hehe that’s why I prefer living in Germany. This would simply not happen here 😉

    August 28, 2015 at 05:10 Reply
    1. faden

      Wrong. It happens in Germany as well. I’ve read at least about three cases. One were firefighters, the others a SEK (German special police team, similar to SWAT). Twice against gamers and one against journalists in context of the refugee crisis.

      August 28, 2015 at 05:41 Reply
      1. Daito Endashi

        Okay, good to know, thanks for the answer!

        August 28, 2015 at 14:41 Reply
    2. Loan Wolf

      big minecraft youtuber has over 500000 subs got stoped for no reason took to jail held with out charges 12 houres they held his licens towed his car made him waite 48 houre befor he could get it back all because his car was the same brand as some one they wanted to talk to so i would say germany is ever bit if not worse you just dont hear it as much

      edited to add his name is docm77

      August 28, 2015 at 07:15 Reply
      1. Daito Endashi

        Okay, good to know. Thanks for the answer!

        August 28, 2015 at 14:41 Reply
  6. gun control anyone?

    Eh, this in the USA, right? You guys seriously need to calm the fuck down and implement some gun-control so the Police don’t have to be so damn trigger-happy! It works in many European countries, I myself live in a European country who is in the top in the world in number of legal registered weapons per person and our Police still doesn’t have to be prepared to shoot to kill all the time…seriously guys! But I guess it has gone to far since to long in the US…also our SWAT teams would probably try to verify the hostage situation before barging in with assault rifles. Make a phone-call perhaps? Look into the windows perhaps? Call relatives? Background-check on the guy calling in perpahs? Google his name and see that he usually streams online? Or do they bust in based on anonynous calls and almost kill people? This “swatting”-thing is so stupid I’m speachless…take control of your own country dammit!

    August 28, 2015 at 05:41 Reply
    1. Chris

      This is hardly an issue with guns. Rofl. First of all this happens in other countries. Second of all, police who are ready to shoot to kill are in a very very small minority of policemen. They’re not just walking around gunning down black children like Reddit and the media will have you believe. Third, Background checks and looking in a window can only do so much. Someone with no criminal background could easily do something. Four, we have no idea what the person told the police to trigger that response.

      This is hardly an issue of needing to “take control of our country”. Anywhere, somebody with the maturity of a 12 year old can call the cops on someone else for no reason other than to piss them off.

      I think you’re the one who needs to calm the fuck down and implement some anger control.

      August 28, 2015 at 06:11 Reply
      1. Sylphinja the Dark Rose

        Let’s just remove the safety nets and let the problem solve itself.

        Edit: No, where i live, cops will first verify that the caller is actually real and is not a 12 year old prank calling. There’s no anonymous calls and you have to identify yourself.

        August 28, 2015 at 07:58 Reply
      2. Baal

        I dont understand… someone calls in a hostage situation and a potential bomb threat and the best procedure is to storm the location rather that asses the situation first. Had this been a real scenario, those officers would have walked into an exploding pipe bomb and bunch or bullets zooming in their direction.

        August 28, 2015 at 15:53 Reply
    2. randominternetperson

      The main problem is how the people behave in US is very different from EU. Let’s just say, I live in the US, and I live around a lot of blacks and browns.

      August 28, 2015 at 06:16 Reply
      1. Luca Lure

        Me to. My wife is black and my kids are coloured. Luckily we have less idiots like you over here.

        August 28, 2015 at 06:53 Reply
        1. randominternetperson
          August 28, 2015 at 07:15 Reply
          1. Baal

            Yep…reports coming from a corrupt institution trying to cover their ass must be 100% accurate and not bias in any way shape or form.

            August 28, 2015 at 15:48
      2. Thomas Hassle

        Very true, police in EU don’t shoot black people on their backs for no reason…. Those blacks and browns must be really scared living nearby people like you….. and with a good reason…

        August 28, 2015 at 12:23 Reply
    3. Dracvlad

      Except in Europe we sit on a train while some religious nut with an illegal AK47 has free fire, personally at this moment I would prefer the US system in Europe, while you may like being cattle to the slaughter I don’t.

      August 28, 2015 at 06:46 Reply
      1. Jaime Gomes

        While that is an isolated incident and and part of a terrorist attempt in the us school shootings are pretty common. We Europeans would not trade our system with your shitty ass mongloid one.

        August 28, 2015 at 10:45 Reply
        1. Dracvlad

          Well I am a European you twat, isolated incident my ass and now much more numerous than US school shootings, like so many of my fellow Europeans you have your head so far up your ass that I really believe that you deserve what is coming your way in 2016.

          August 28, 2015 at 11:38 Reply
          1. a

            Being pro gun only works on homogeneus countries, that’s the joke about USA, you wouldn’t need a gun if you didn’t have 35% population of non westerners.

            August 28, 2015 at 14:39
          2. Dracvlad

            That makes no sense at all.

            Just read what ISIS have planned for 2016 and wipe those complacent words from your minds, he was saying this is an isolated incident to try to make himself feel more secure, he did not convince me as I know he is talking bull shit, but if he wants to believe that it is an isolated incident then let him wallow in his stupidity, not my problem, while people like him will be slaughtered I won’t be.

            August 28, 2015 at 15:43
          3. Baal

            Much more numerous? what news do you watch? I challenge you to really think of what good can come out of having a large number of your population armed. The chances of someone getting caught buying a illegal gun is much higher when you have gun control. The gun control limits the number of potential sources.

            August 28, 2015 at 15:44
          4. Dracvlad

            The news, are you serious, its not detailed there much, did they even detail in France the suicide bomb vest hold up of a Belgium post office around the same time as that event on the train. There is a lot more events then you even know about, most of it only makes national news and is not reported in any detail in other countries.

            Did you know that many of the AK47’s that have been smuggled into France have been smuggled in by the same people smuggling in drugs and there are thousands in circulation, you have no idea mate.

            So to answer your question in the way I see it, I would much rather have a couple of armed people on that train who could have shot that religious nut dead rather than allow him to use all 300 rounds on the people on that train.

            August 28, 2015 at 15:50
          5. Baal

            i don’t think you gave it much thought. Those terrorist attacks are more numerous than they was in the past. I will give you that. Had there been more armed citizens on that train the guy would have gone down a lot sooner. I will give you that.

            Now lets fast forward. Gun control laws are loosened to allow citizens to arm themselves. Everyone who is concerned about their safety will go out and buy a gun. Now you have a large population of gun owners.

            How many of those people will you think will use that gun to protect themselves from an attack VS use those guns for simple things like killing a love one in the heat of an argument, a child accidentally finding the gun, shooting a neighbor during an argument, shooting up a school because he or she was bullied and lets not forget the people who do suffer from mental illness.

            With the amount of fear going around it wont be long before people start shooting anybody who moves weird or looks foreign.

            August 28, 2015 at 16:10
          6. Dracvlad

            You think that people like me would shoot people because they look foreign, some of the bravest people I know are Arabs,

            Do you know how we have to store guns in France locked strong cupboard and no ammo.

            Seriously get an idea.

            And those people with mental illness will pick up a knife, you read about that IKEA knifing by the way? IKEA are not selling knives now…

            I saw a man with mental health problems push three people onto the tracks in London, I saw a man with mental problems beat another to death with an iron bar and no one could stop him. not even the unarmed UK police.

            But at the end of the day its not about fear, its about saving people, thankfully there was people on that train that acted even when unarmed, that American who charged him from 10 metres away was awesome, as was the French-American who gave him the time to do that.

            August 28, 2015 at 16:22
          7. Baal

            Nope YOU seem okay. am more worried about the crazy people other that terrorist and people who lack self control. Giving them the opportunity to own a gun is really scary.

            August 28, 2015 at 16:31
          8. Dracvlad

            And in any case I registered my guns when I was in the UK, they are also registered here in France, they are perfectly legal. I cannot however carry them in public under a concealed permit like you can in certain states in the USA. And at this point I see no reason too, because I avoid all major train stations, airports and major shopping centres as much as I can.

            Let the sheeple like Jamie find out the hard way, not my problem.

            August 28, 2015 at 15:54
          9. Dracvlad

            Another one for you to chew on, in France a military base with no guards and no CCTV was raided, they got 250 military detonators, 50 hand grenades and an unknown quantity of military grade plastic explosive.

            And I am supposed to feel protected, thousands will die from that stupidity alone, but ignore it, go back to sleep, nothing to see here.

            Did you know about the 20,000 cartridges they found in a cave in the south of France recently?

            August 28, 2015 at 16:04
      2. Ezzy

        How would that situation be any better with 20 people with AK47’s in the same car? How the hell would you know who’s the “bad” person?

        August 29, 2015 at 22:44 Reply
    4. Loan Wolf

      the flaw in your logic as with ever other person that thinks gun contrl is the anser is that the people that you need to fear haveing guns dont get them legaly and wouldnt pay any mind to any law that says they cant have them they broke the laws to get them in place

      August 28, 2015 at 07:11 Reply
      1. Baal

        That’s true…. all the mass killings and what ever shootings made it to main stream media was definitely done by harden criminals and not ordinary citizens who lost their shit and decided to use a gun ( which was most likely bought at wal-mart) to kill who ever they feel like. Taking a look at all the other countries that implemented national gun control and their gun related killings one has to wonder what kind of wizardry is going on in the background for such a thing to work.

        August 28, 2015 at 15:39 Reply
      2. Ezzy

        Illiterate people owning guns is a problem too.

        August 29, 2015 at 22:42 Reply
  7. cris

    I hope they guy is american and gets caught.

    The US judges know “swatting” and punish really hard.

    August 28, 2015 at 07:08 Reply
    1. Random CFC Grunt

      If only it weren’t a hoax…

      August 28, 2015 at 08:42 Reply
    2. bad

      one of the biggest swatters was a Canadian kid from near where I live, Coquitlam I think he was in (BC, Canada). His sentence was a joke. HUGE profile incidents too.

      August 28, 2015 at 09:41 Reply
  8. Loan Wolf

    i cant think of afaster way to get shoot the prick ofcers in my state opps sorry police offcers i ment in my staste shoot first then ask whats going on the fucking kid that did that should be found arested and put in prison

    edit to add i think if i ever stream now i will have a few cams set up so that there will be witness to my excution on twitch

    August 28, 2015 at 07:08 Reply
    1. joe

      what language do they speak in your country?

      August 28, 2015 at 07:49 Reply
      1. GrouchyOldGamer

        gibberish it seems.

        August 28, 2015 at 08:02 Reply
        1. Thatguy

          “Loan Wolf”. I can’t tell if that’s deliberate or a spelling error, given his typing.

          August 28, 2015 at 11:12 Reply
    2. bad

      you might want to lay off the drugs while typing.

      August 28, 2015 at 09:40 Reply
  9. Jake

    I ain’t a big Markee fan, I think he’s incredibly ignorant considering how much he’s played, but this is ducked up. This happens a few more recent times and with how cops act in US a streamers gonna be shot.

    August 28, 2015 at 08:11 Reply
  10. Irya

    if he had be black … we know how the story would end 😡

    August 28, 2015 at 08:29 Reply
    1. bad

      Not everything has to be turned into ‘blacklivesmatter’, Irya.

      August 28, 2015 at 09:39 Reply
      1. Black Science Matters

        Some people don’t it be like it is, but it do. #BlackLivesMatter – Black Science Man.

        August 28, 2015 at 09:59 Reply
        1. PhReaKin Stoner

          only to those completely encompassed in social media does it matter. everyone else knows bad shit happens to both good and bad people. deal with it.

          August 28, 2015 at 11:08 Reply
          1. Aderoth Anstian

            umm except in the case of police shootings where regardless of good or bad you’re more likely a black person. that’s not random. that’s not shit happens. that is institutionalized racism.

            August 28, 2015 at 12:36
          2. ICEMAN!!!!

            That’s inaccurate. More white people are shot by police then black but…. don’t let the facts stop you.

            August 28, 2015 at 12:47
          3. Aderoth Anstian

            See below about the validity and accuracy of those facts.

            August 30, 2015 at 15:45
          4. Abusrd

            How about everyones lives matter not just black, black lives matter seems to perpetuate this racism you’re pointing out. More white people are shot every year in the united states at the hands of law enforcement, you know why you don’t know that? Firstly, because white people don’t cry racism every time something bad happens, second because it’s not considered as news worthy. When someone black dies the news never knows when it’s going to be the next ferguson, so they hype the shit out of it, further encouraging outrageous mentalitys like yours.

            August 28, 2015 at 13:38
          5. Aderoth Anstian

            While I completely agree that all lives matter, the movement itself is only a way to dismiss and deny the institutionalized racism that absolutely exists. See below regarding the racial statistics. Black folks don’t cry racism every time something bad happens either. White folks mainly don’t cry racism because they would be laughed out of town. A bad joke. I despise media hype just as much as you. I don’t watch network news. I haven’t for at least 10 years. My “outrageous mentality” is all my own.

            August 30, 2015 at 15:44
          6. Minty

            Not true at all. A White or Hispanic person is more likely to be shot by the police per crime per capita of that race. Police are shit scared of shooting Blacks due to the backlash – you now even end up with situations like this:

            August 28, 2015 at 16:00
          7. Aderoth Anstian

            This ignores the fact that white folks make up a much larger percentage of the US population than black folks. In addition all of these statistics were issued by the FBI crime database. A database that the FBI readily admits is sorely lacking in full detail. For instance 25% of the records used for these stats had no race mentioned and therefore were not included. That’s a huge statistical hole.

            August 30, 2015 at 15:36
          8. PhReaKin Stoner

            It is random, And it is shit happens. Not all the cases of police shooting people can be lumped together. But i can tell you this. Had those people followed orders and complied with what law enforcement (you know the people we pay to do what most of them are doing when they shoot someone, enforce the law) asked of them. Most would probably still be here. But you’ll just say mental instability on my part. Showing how much you will swallow from todays media outlets. Disconnect and live your life man. Everyone dies one day. Its what you die from that matters.

            August 28, 2015 at 21:56
  11. the vet

    what a total total total DICK HEAD, i so hope who ever did this gets caught. a 15 year old got 25 years for doing this

    August 28, 2015 at 09:58 Reply
    1. jon

      Unfortunately that’s not true. Just a rumour passed around. I wish it had happened though.

      August 28, 2015 at 10:03 Reply
  12. Sultan

    That’s horrible! How did they even get your phone number and can’t cops track the call to whoever did it?

    August 28, 2015 at 10:01 Reply
    1. Chessguy99

      Most likely get traced back to a cheap cellphone registered to a throwaway email account.

      August 28, 2015 at 10:11 Reply
      1. Ezzy

        Probably used VOIP.

        August 29, 2015 at 22:40 Reply
  13. Yikes!

    Well ended ok and probably going to get more coverage than just the event so can spin this rather dangerous “prank” into something positive

    August 28, 2015 at 10:54 Reply
  14. Thatguy

    One day, some innocent video gamer will be shot by law enforcement and it will be the fault of some person who phoned the police with the intent of them using deadly force. As far as i’m concerned, that’s Murder and Law Enforcement track incoming calls – you’d be fucking sure they would turn up at the false callers home.

    August 28, 2015 at 11:10 Reply
    1. Brian Wirth

      Swatters use throw away cell phones to make their calls which makes their calls mostly untraceable.

      August 28, 2015 at 12:01 Reply
      1. DaveTV_eve

        Those are getting harder and harder to come by in a means that allow you to remain anonymous.

        August 28, 2015 at 13:35 Reply
      2. You’d think so…but always beat on stupid, youll win more often than not.

        August 28, 2015 at 15:04 Reply
      3. Dr. Obvious

        Thankfully the NSA does not have recordings of every call made in the US and other countries, and would probably have a hard time comparing the voice in that call to any other call the swatter has made.

        August 28, 2015 at 16:01 Reply
      4. Thatguy


        August 28, 2015 at 16:01 Reply
      5. Yeah, that is what they want you to believe, but throw away phones are traceable nowadays.. it is only in movies and TV shows they use that gimmick, and it helps catch the peeps dumb enough to believe it in real life..

        August 28, 2015 at 17:28 Reply
        1. Ezzy

          They actually use VOIP and VPN’s. So there’s that. In this one they apparently didn’t call 911, but the Sheriff’s office landline or something, so pretty sure there’ll be no trace. Damn shame.

          August 29, 2015 at 22:40 Reply
  15. Soldarius

    “Swatting” is a criminal offense in the US, and most likely in most other nations, states, etc. Law enforcement will find the people responsible and prosecute them. Don’t do it. M’kay?

    August 28, 2015 at 12:54 Reply
  16. alxbrb

    Everytime i read about the US and their relations with guns and law enforcement i literally have goosebumps.

    (Because, after all.. everything happens in the USA is something that can end up to be replicated in another place in the western world.. but this is another story.)

    Here in Italy, this situation where a bored dickhead call the police in order to deliberately damage someone is called “procurato allarme” and its normally punished with jail up to 6 months (or an equiparable amount of social services) and a pecuniary sanction that is up to 516€.
    Moreover, the investigation is also very easy since the police calls are recorded and all the Sim cards here are univocally binded to an ID card on purchase.

    Also, the fact that an armed force can enter your home in this way, and with “war weapons” in hands just because someone used an emergency service by indicating a possible risk, is something scary and totally out of question here.. (a “carabinieri action” that is based on a single phone call, and with “war weapons”, could mean jail for all the agents involved, their traineer and the authorizing official, if its not correctly prooved and the real risk level is not assessed.)

    And “swatting”, or similar phone jokes at the telephone, are pretty common here also.

    Want to get rid of these problems? Get rid of your guns first.
    Or create a necessary license for it, FFS.
    This will allow all of you to have a less militarized law enforcemet system and lower the death-toll by thousands per year.

    *No offence intended – all IMHO. All my support to MarkeeDragon, you are great sir!*

    August 28, 2015 at 13:55 Reply
    1. pim

      Taking guns from law abiding citizens never solves anything. Criminals are still going to have guns they will never follow the law. Since when do they care.

      August 28, 2015 at 15:17 Reply
      1. Dracvlad

        This is what I agree with, disarming law abiding people just makes crime more rampant, do people here even know how many AK47’s was found in France over the last two years, thousands.

        I used to shoot for fun in the UK and then a paedophile shot some children in a class room and then I had to hand in my guns, I was punished because someone with a mental illness used his guns. A mental illness that I do not suffer with, now that I live in France I can do my hobby again, fuck you UK.

        Should we ban planes because someone used them to kill people by flying it into the side of a mountain, seriously.

        August 28, 2015 at 15:37 Reply
        1. alxbrb

          I agree with the overall call to freedom to have a gun, but yet.. my reality (or.. the italian one in general) is just so different from the US that i feel the need to explain a little bit more…

          Im honest on this.. a story like this one is totally out of this world for me… I dont think that anything similar ever even happened here..

          Btw, We have a very strict gun control policy.

          The allowed guns here are 7.65 (7,65 × 21 mm Parabellum) and non military 9mm. The actual military caliber for guns here is 9×19 mm (also known as Luger).

          Hunt rifles with standards from 12 to 36mm are also allowed along with other “sports” calibers. And the license process is still required for all of them. After all, if you need a driver license due to the responsabilities that comes with the fact that you drive a car, why you shouldnt have a gun license for the same reason?

          Some Assault Rifles (like a FAL, HK, M*, AK’s etc) are allowed in civil polygons but they can just be rented from certified importers and used inside them by anyone who’s have a valid gun license. They cannot be taken outside these areas.

          Every gun sold is registered and phisically marked with a serial number that is binded to the person who bought it (when you need to sell you gun to someone you have to legally notify the institutions with a free and guided procedure… technically its just a fax to send to the local police office or a form to send on the govt website).

          Everyone who have a gun must renew its license every 2 years, and the renewal process comprehends also a medical visit and and grants a free mental health support service for all the validity of the license, and this covers also eventual medical/psychological assistance for injuries related to sport accidents or more general gun usage.

          Every other gun is illegal and everyone who owns it or sell them is legally punished.

          Even if in italy we have differents large scale international criminal organizations, the shootings cases are the lowest of most part of europe. The number of guns per 100 persons were 11.9 in the 2014 while in the US were more than 88 every 100.

          A personal example: i ve even never personally seen a real assault rifle in my life… not owned by anyone nor by a police agent (the maximum you can see here is the classical military cal9 owned by carabinieri or police, or… in special cases a Beretta Pm 12 rifle).

          This does not mean that you cant access rifles or guns, even military ones… you can get a license and rent them in predetermined and controlled shooting areas and civil shooting polygons. And there are also a lot of public open military events where you can, in fact, “test things”.

          There is a downside by the way.
          Mafia executions are more than a disgusting reality here..

          But the total number of shooting per year if compared to the total number of the population is still incredibly low. In fact, Mafia activity covers the 67% of all the shooting cases in all of italy.

          Obviously there is an illegal flow, especially ak-47 that are generally illegally imported from the south-east, but the cases where they are used are less than 100 per year. And most are “mafia-related”.

          There is a separate policy even for the munitions.

          Commercial ones are numbered and tracked also. So.. even if you get an ak illegally.. you still need to have the know-how, the money and the contacts to illegally get ammo or autoproduce them for it.

          And this “paywall” helps to keep most criminals outside of the game by default.

          Not to mention the military calibers and guns. The military ammos are technically impossible to find since the low market request on the black market is binded to the normal civil calibers..

          Another simple fact: More than the 90% of armed bank robberies here in italy is done with a fake soft-air or flashbang, modified, gun.

          August 28, 2015 at 16:58 Reply
          1. GMan

            The U.S.A. is the most heavily armed nation on earth, something in the neighborhood of 50% of all civilian owned firearms are owned by Americans. Is this a problem? No.
            What people in other countries do not understand, and rightfully so as it isnt so heavily part of the culture anywhere else is that people kill people, a gun is just the weapon.
            The real problem this country has is it doesn’t enforce the laws it already has, and states do not share information between each other. Being the parent of a mentally unstable person, or having any sort of diagnosed mental instability should automatically set off flags on a federal system not state that this person should not be able to purchase a firearm.
            This system exists btw, but most states fail to report.

            Also no system can ever be created that will keep guns away from criminals, the only people that believe this are sheltered naive people who think a criminal would kill someone with a registered gun, or that “hot” firearms are hard to come by, they aren’t.
            If you think taking away firearms from law abiding citizens will curb crime, take a look at Chicago, or California, criminals are still easily coming by unregistered weapons and using them.
            Most burglars won’t break into a home with a flag waiving on the front porch. Why? Most likely an armed household. This is why most law officers are pro keeping guns in the hands of law abiding citizens.

            August 28, 2015 at 18:50
          2. Ezzy

            Mental illness should actually be treated (for free IMO), not shamed in the way you mention. Not that I endorse giving guns to unstable people.

            August 29, 2015 at 22:38
          3. Daniel Plain

            you are wrong about your claim that no system can be created to keep guns away from criminals. such systems exist in almost all developed countries and they work perfectly fine. read up on the history of gun legislation in australia if you don’t believe me.

            August 29, 2015 at 23:47
          4. Cryptic Sense

            Gun education and gun control are two very different subjects.

            However… While we’re on the subject of drivers licenses. Number 1 killer of youth is driving – not guns. So…er… that whole drivers license argument is kind of moot too. If we educate them on guns like we educate them to drive we’re all dead!

            August 28, 2015 at 18:51
          5. Ezzy

            Driving doesn’t kill, it’s the lack of skill, recklessness and carelessness etc. that do. Not to mention stupidity.

            August 29, 2015 at 22:35
          6. Daniel Plain

            this will soon change in the US. people predict that annual gun deaths will soon surpass traffic deaths.

            August 29, 2015 at 23:41
        2. Ezzy

          Nothing good comes out of guns, ever. Planes are the opposite. Terrible analogy.

          August 29, 2015 at 22:33 Reply
      2. Daniel Plain

        wrong. a country like the US could easily enforce a gun policy that would make it near-impossible for criminals to get access to guns. it wouldn’t happen over night, but it would happen soon enough for you and me to see the results. the problem is that the gun lobby has a vested interest in US citizens being afraid and buying more guns, thus no such policy is going to happen anytime soon.

        in the meantime consider this: people who are willing to commit crimes using firearms are either incredibly stupid, desperate or don’t care about their own life (or all three). the chance that you will scare them off by buying a gun yourself is small to non-existent and if it comes to a shootout, they have the upper hand in many ways.

        according to statistical forecasts, 2016 will be the first year in modern history where the total number of deaths from gun violence in the US will surpass the deaths caused by traffic incidents (about 33000 or eleven times as many people as died in 9/11). compare that with countries like japan, were the yearly gun deaths are in the low double digits or germany where they are in the low triple digits.

        August 28, 2015 at 17:21 Reply
        1. People Kill People, Guns Don't

          So.. You’re telling me Britain is soon much safer now that they have between 22,000-60,000 knifings a year? Oh yeah.. pocket knives are illegal. So that whole “get rid of your guns” thing just went out the window.

          Oh… As we’re on the subject. Modern weaponry has reduced – not increased – casualties. Don’t believe me? Go study your European World War One history. Contrast it with any modern war.


          August 28, 2015 at 18:48 Reply
          1. Ezzy

            Less guns means less gun-related crime. It’s a direct correlation. Knifings are a whole other story. Banning things and enforcing the laws are two different things.

            That said, Finland has a ton of guns, but still very few of them show up on the streets. Yes, we’ve had a few bad school shootings etc. but it’s not a daily occurrence, nor do you have to fear it pretty much anywhere. I’m more afraid of general drunk people, and they’re everywhere.

            I’ve never heard a gunshot whilst out and about, never seen a gun on the street, none of my friends carry.
            The ones that might have guns, have hunting rifles etc. and they definitely don’t post images of them on FB etc. or glamourize them.
            Plus we all have a mandatory military service.

            WTF do people need assault rifles for in their home? That’s just dumb.
            If the US police wasn’t so corrupt, there would be less people stocking up guns because they’d actually TRUST the police instead of wanting to have a gun for protection. And loss if trust isn’t helped by cutting police resources and spreading them thin.

            August 29, 2015 at 22:32
          2. Daniel Plain

            your numbers are pulled out of your ass. for one thing, you failed to mention that the majority of the ‘knifings’ did not result in injury or death. here, educate yourself:

            as for modern weaponry, what a stupid straw man. are you really too stupid to understand the difference between weapons used by trained professionals in a war situation and weapons owned by private citizens and used to commit crimes?

            August 29, 2015 at 23:07
        2. yep

          ok you give us gun control and we will move mexico to your southern border!

          August 29, 2015 at 02:12 Reply
          1. Daniel Plain

            i’d be curious about how you’d try to do that. i also don’t see how americans killing each other with privately owned firearms relates to mexico in any way.

            August 29, 2015 at 23:01
        3. Boom Boom Bartholomew

          You really want to mention Germany and the killing of people? Ok. BTW guns are illegal in Australia and they just had three shootings within three hours in Sydney

          August 29, 2015 at 02:25 Reply
          1. Daniel Plain

            mind posting a link to the source for that? i couldn’t find it in google news. even if it is true, when was the last time there were mass shootings in australia and how many people die yearly from gun violence there compared to the US? a single case of gun violence does not disprove sensible gun policies just like one snowball does not disprove global warming.

            and congratulations on the red herring. modern day germany is one of the safest countries to live in.

            August 29, 2015 at 22:58
        4. Daniel Plain WRONG

          you are an idiot, they can never enforce gun laws like you describe. what a dumbass

          August 29, 2015 at 21:31 Reply
          1. Daniel Plain

            a very reasonable and thoughtful argument. meanwhile other countries actually DID enforce just such laws. and if you knew anything about anything at all, i would not have to point that out.

            August 29, 2015 at 22:59
    2. theseconddavid

      An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

      August 28, 2015 at 20:32 Reply
      1. Gunsfoelife

        Yes siRRRRR!!!!!

        August 28, 2015 at 21:43 Reply
      2. PhReaKin Stoner

        An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a suspect, and soon to be victim.

        August 29, 2015 at 15:54 Reply
      3. OrAreYouSouthCanadian?

        Spoken like a true North Mexican.

        September 1, 2015 at 01:01 Reply
      4. alxbrb

        Im sorry for your context.

        September 1, 2015 at 20:32 Reply
    3. Ashesofempires

      Swatting is more than just calling the police from a burner phone with a throwaway SIM card. Swatting is typically done using a VOIP phone, with software that lets you basically pretend to be a random phone number, when you call 911 it shows up as some random phone number, and you can even append an address to the number that makes it look like you’re calling from a land-line phone. More sophisticated ones can even spoof GPS coordinates and present themselves as valid cell phones.

      As for the “war weapons,” it’s called a SWAT Team, and it’s part of the police force tactics to respond to threats of deadly force with deadly force. They don’t know that the pipe bomb and hostage situation is fake.

      Part of the reason for this is that in the 70’s/80’s there were a string of police confrontations where the criminals had semi-automatic rifles and the police had 9mm pistols or revolvers, and the police didn’t fare so well. Another part of the reason is the proliferation of legal semi-automatic assault rifles in the US after the ’94 assault weapons ban was lifted. I can walk into a WAL-MART and buy an AR-15 for about $400 (a cheap one). Then I can go online, and google how to turn it into a full-auto weapon, spend some money on some tools, and have a knock-off M-16.

      Back to the original problem: swatting is easy to do and hard for police to trace. The reason it’s so “entertaining” is that people have basically figured out that if you tell the police something bad is happening at X house, you can get the police to come very close to using deadly force just for the giggles, and most people get away with it.

      The only ones that have been caught thus far did something stupid to identify themselves (bragged about it on 4chan or such, used Gmail to send threats).

      August 28, 2015 at 23:40 Reply
      1. Eric

        Good luck, you won’t turn an AR into an M16 with out several parts, which are an NFA item, I love how people think it’s so easy to turn something into FA.

        August 29, 2015 at 10:25 Reply
        1. santa

          serious redneck detected.

          August 31, 2015 at 07:47 Reply
          1. Eric

            I’m sorry I guess knowing wtf I’m talking about makes me a redneck, what does that make you?

            September 1, 2015 at 11:29
      2. alxbrb

        This is something that is totally socially impossibile here in Italy, for example.
        And one of the main reason is the unavalability of the guns (semi-automatic) on the market (even the black one)..

        So, since the threat “on the wild” is so low, the police doesnt need to enforce.

        By the way, my intention was not to criticize something… it’s just.. very strange to read these things happening on a western country (at least from my point of view).

        September 1, 2015 at 20:32 Reply
  17. MarkeeDragon is probably one of the chillest streamers around, props to him for taking it in stride. Thankfully person(s) convicted of swatting are getting some serious prison time. Like 25 to life in prison (

    See you soon MarkeeDragon, keep up the awesome effort!

    August 28, 2015 at 15:03 Reply
      1. factchecker

        just like Markeefagqueen didn’t really get swatter either , but heh – what ever buzz right ?

        August 30, 2015 at 23:10 Reply
        1. PhReaKin Stoner

          Look at he madd you display. So much you even thought up a cool name to call your arch nemesis. SOOO mad. Wat makes it even better is you didnt post with your main! Soooo mad! Be a man, Post with your main!

          September 1, 2015 at 12:23 Reply
  18. Tonk

    Some fuckstick is going to get someone killed.

    August 28, 2015 at 15:56 Reply

    So this … Kinda happened to me.
    I was playing WOW at the time, and it was not a streaming deal etc. It was just my buddy thinking he was funny. At the time I had cams running through speakers instead of a headset and I had ordered Pizza. So doing our thing in game etc, smoking a lot of weed as I was playing etc. KNock knock, pizza guy!!!!!! Guy at the door is a seriously dorky looking dude “almost down syndrome looking” and I am paying this guy and my friend on coms decides to act like a woman and says ” help I’m trapped in the closet, he’s got a gun”.
    Thinking nothing of this and telling this coke glass bottle spectacle wearing fool that “that was my friend, we are playing video games, and he’s an asshat etc etc”
    Started to enjoy my pizza and back to the game, 15 minutes later “BANG BANG BANG POLICE!!!!!!”
    FUCKING PIZZA GUY — YOU FUCKING MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    August 28, 2015 at 17:52 Reply
    1. Pizza Guy

      Pizza Guy did the right thing! The douche-bag on your side of the monitor (you) is the moron… If you step away from your system, turn your volume down, especially if your “friend” is a complete tard. Don’t blame a guy who is bringing you food, making money, and thinks you look suspicious enough to warrant a call to the police. Next time you may get a little extra on your pizza.

      August 29, 2015 at 12:11 Reply
    2. Goobah

      Weed is bad, mmmmmmkay ? Especially if you’re already a moron playing WoW… which is actually makes you an oxymoron… bwhahahahaha !

      August 30, 2015 at 20:09 Reply
  20. SkiD-MaRk

    🙁 I watch his twitch channel all the time. Super nice guy. PPL really know how too suck these days, I hope there is a way to track the guy that called.

    August 28, 2015 at 20:20 Reply
  21. Wow. This is very reckless as you could get people killed doing this! It has happened!
    This is one of the reasons I like to stay away from popularity online but sometimes it is inevitable.

    August 28, 2015 at 20:44 Reply
  22. JohnSmith

    Soooooo excited! Can’t wait. I’m playing right now. If youtube gaming is inaccessible in your region, unblock it via PureVPN.

    August 29, 2015 at 10:41 Reply
  23. JFKen

    ‘merica, wtf is wrong with you ?

    August 30, 2015 at 01:39 Reply
  24. santa

    US police tacticts on clearing a house: scream in every room to make sure the suspect know where they are.

    August 31, 2015 at 07:40 Reply
  25. Sjörövar Fabbe

    Swatting is attempted murder wiht the SWAT team abused as the murder weapon by some fucking asshole!
    I do not deem markee a skilled or talented EVE player, he still is sort of a clueless noob, but his talent lies not in playing games but making money from them…
    Whoever called the police, I hope they find him and punish him as severely as lawfully possible…

    August 31, 2015 at 20:40 Reply
  26. Truth

    98% of YouTube Gaming is… YouTube videos that we have already seen/look up. Why must Google touch and taint everything. My God, how much money is enough? At what point do you say, yeah, I think I’ll be able to pay my bills this year.. and the next 3,000,000 years after as well for each employee.

    September 2, 2015 at 00:13 Reply

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