Early this morning a post was created on Reddit claiming to be a direct quote from an alliance message from Gorga, CEO of Common Sense Ltd, and Nulli Secunda. This post claims that Nulli Secunda aim to disband after the alliance tournament finishes. Although this information is unconfirmed, it would appear that Common Sense Ltd are no longer recruiting.

The Reddit post read as follows:

It has been a while since I have written one of these, but an announcement like this is best coming from me.

It is no secret that the last weeks have been kind of rough for all of us and the content has been dried out for a while now. We had a bunch of great fights around the Khanid R64s we have taken and kicked both PL’s and Darwin’s ass on multiple occasions. Now our AT-team is once again showing an impressive performance and has already reached the quarter-finals with a convincing swipe against TNT last weekend.

However, with the end of the alliance-tournament coming into sight, we have to ask ourselves where this alliance is going and how we will face a future under Aegis SOV.

We, as High Command and Alliance Leadership have to offer an apology to you, to the people and corps that stuck with us through these tough times, and to the people that have accompanied us while we determined how to carry on. The absence of leadership did not do justice to what this great alliance has been able to accomplish, to all the people working so hard and giving their best, to everyone that kept our campaigns running and enabled us to stand here today successfully, after 5 years of fighting in many of the greatest wars EVE had to offer.

We did not do you justice in the recent weeks and we want to apologize for that. The consistent burnout of important people has been a problem for a while now, and even with trying our best to bring in new blood and keep our people motivated it has ultimately not been the leadership you guys deserve.

Earlier this month the point had come where we had to make the decision how to continue, how to start over, since we could not and did not want to continue like this. It was a more than difficult decision, but in the end we do not think that we would be able to rebuild in a way that would do justice to the name of Nulli Secunda and the strong reputation that we have built over the years.

With the end of Alliance Tournament XIII, Nulli Secunda will be closing its doors.

Closing an alliance that so many of us have helped to build and strengthen over the last 5 years is not an easy decision, but seeing it happen through a burnout of leadership makes it twice as hard.

5 years ago, Nulli was a small and insignificant alliance, a second tier IT Alliance pet living in basically nothing. Today we fought as a main-player in the N3 in the greatest war that has ever happened, returned from the verge of defeat in B-R to winning said war, reversing the progress that the russians and the CFC had made in months in barely more than a week. Our CSM nominations have been elected the last 3 years running (well, heh, 2.5 anyway). Our story that lead up to this point is available here, authored by our own Ion Flux: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qq59nrk2v5t66ut/S2N_LEGEND_PDF.pdf?dl=0

The following Esoteria invasion once again became an overwhelming success and another high-point in the history of this alliance. Not only pushing Stainwagon and their allies out of the region and into NPC-space, but also following them again and taking their R64s 1 jump next to their staging system.

With heaven and earth put into motion to drive us from our home, we turned north and after many a great battles forced TRI and SOLAR into seeking peace, ensuring a 100% contract success-rate for Mercenary Secunda.

In Khanid we took R64s while simultaneously kicking PL and NC. fleets around, and our AT-team once again dominating their bracket. We can look back and say without any bitterness: It has been a great 5 years, that we did well against all odds and became what we never even could imagine.

Many friends have accompanied us over the years, too many to thank each individually. The list of people that worked so hard and offered so much to this alliance goes on and on, people that accompanied us since the beginning or joined our course on the way, people that led, that kept making the alliance tick, that brought out fleets each and every day, that did so much ungrateful work running IT or cooling the hotheads and kept everyone working on the common goal. So many people that kept our finances tight, that spied on our enemies. Thank you to everyone that kept our rental program running, that provided countless hours of intel on our enemies and scanning regions to make way for the invasions to come. Thanks to the people that provided our fighting heroes with SRP, to everyone that worked and coordinated with our allies, to all the countless people that kept the gears turning.

Thank you to the CEOs for their patience and passion, thank you to the directors who kept all these great corps of Nulli running, and thank you to everyone who accompanied us along this way, you gave us so much.

And thank you to all opponents, large and small, we encountered over these five years. We are much obliged.

Hats off to CCP for creating a game in which a group can exist for this long and experience so much together. We literally could not have done it without you.

Now this is not the end. Life goes on. All those parts that made the entire thing of Nulli Secunda so great will still continue to exist. Your corps will find new and old friends to fly with, and all the people from alliance-chat will still be there, one place or another. Take some time with your corp and think about what a future under Aegis Sov will hold for you, and where you want to fly with your friends in the future. But for the moment remember to not go anywhere just yet: After all, there still is a tournament to win!

Ladies and gentlemen, it has been an absolute honor.

Rumors of Nulli Secunda disbanding have been floating around for the last few months, and whether the reddit post is fact remains to be seen. However, the truth will come to light over the next few weeks as the alliance tournament draws to a close.


  1. Leadership burnout claims another alliance.

    August 27, 2015 at 12:54 Reply
    1. omnomnom

      welcome to fozziesov.

      August 27, 2015 at 13:15 Reply
      1. Dirk MacGirk

        pretty sure burnout and alliances shuttering due to it began long before fozziesov

        August 27, 2015 at 13:48 Reply
        1. Ganimoth

          Pretty much.

          August 27, 2015 at 13:50 Reply
    2. Afk

      Don’t you need to do something in order to burn out?

      August 27, 2015 at 18:06 Reply
  2. bad reporting

    Unconfirmed posting now is a thing just cuz it popped up on reddit

    just in read all about it mittani joining ncdot drifters found out to really be old bob and ccp had a little lamp

    clean ur reports up before Virgina comes to you.

    August 27, 2015 at 13:10 Reply
    1. no

      what is this

      i dont even

      August 27, 2015 at 14:10 Reply
  3. Don'tBFailureCASHOUTb4its2late

    Eve is dead . Cashed out months ago for over 4k $$$$ o/ what are you nerds doing with your life 😉

    August 27, 2015 at 13:18 Reply
    1. bla bla bla

      Dude, how often do you wanna ‘pose’ with your “cashed out 4k$ bla bla bla”…?
      The question should be: Why the f*** do you comment this sh** “months after you cashed out” over and over again? Who is here the nerd? What are you doing with your life?

      August 27, 2015 at 13:54 Reply
    2. bigtimebawler4realz

      Yo dude, you must be doin it wrong then. I cashed out over 9000 $, then I hacked the chinese buyers and stole my stuff back. All my epic mounts and my faction reputation + my epic purple raid gear makes playing eve so much better

      August 27, 2015 at 15:18 Reply
    3. Vladimir

      4k lol, nooooob.

      August 27, 2015 at 15:34 Reply
    4. hmm

      where? cos i want to

      August 27, 2015 at 16:44 Reply
    5. Thatguy

      I too, claim to have made a large but overall insignificant sum of money some time ago.

      August 28, 2015 at 11:27 Reply
  4. Ganimoth

    It is exacly a copy of Gorgas post on nulli forums so no sure why you label it “unconformed”.

    August 27, 2015 at 13:27 Reply
    1. Dirk MacGirk

      cuz I guess they needed someone, preferably a reliable source, to confirm that? The writers and editors probably don’t have access to the primary source information.

      August 27, 2015 at 13:47 Reply
      1. II

        its confimed

        August 27, 2015 at 14:02 Reply
  5. Dirk MacGirk

    If TNT had known such stakes were on the line, we would have tried harder. Not really.

    August 27, 2015 at 13:50 Reply
  6. Ganimoth

    As for some source, image from the nulli forums. http://www.imagehosting.cz/images/forums.jpg

    August 27, 2015 at 13:51 Reply
  7. Jaime Gomes

    Sad panda. Much cry. Much sadness. Much wow. Much 🙁

    August 27, 2015 at 15:16 Reply
  8. Vladimir

    Quick Razor, recruit as many as possible!

    August 27, 2015 at 15:34 Reply
    1. tyyrathos

      They should !! 🙂 Nulli has a bunch of good fighters. No shame in recruiting veteran players.
      But I’m sure you are above that.

      August 27, 2015 at 16:49 Reply
  9. Danny Payne

    Good they are shit, fuck off you shit lords

    August 27, 2015 at 15:57 Reply
    1. Speedy

      They got further in the Alliance tournament than any CFC outfit ever has though

      August 27, 2015 at 16:59 Reply
      1. Chris

        I mean, thats not exactly setting the bar high though.

        August 28, 2015 at 06:16 Reply
  10. TBF

    Haha they can not adapt to the new sov lol. So funny RIP F1 faggots

    August 27, 2015 at 16:14 Reply
    1. Sneaky SOB

      Wow you are such a retard. Like Nulli or not they are/were a great alliance that provided content to all of EVE. I’m sure your a delusional F1 monkey yourself. You must have been seriously butt hurt by them and/or just a retard.

      August 28, 2015 at 13:58 Reply
  11. O-O

    Sad to see one off EvEs long standing legends standing down. There will be a long queue to recruit these players.

    August 27, 2015 at 16:39 Reply
  12. lol

    just get another fucking leadership dumbfucks, why the fuck disband cos one person says so..

    August 27, 2015 at 16:45 Reply
    1. Ganimoth

      There is actually not much will to do so, its been going downhill last 8 months with no one willing to replace burned leadership. Better to not let it rot any longer.

      August 27, 2015 at 17:35 Reply
      1. Lawful-Insanity

        Burnt leadership? Come on gorga is a douch, thats why most of the old active leaders left, he thinks his shit dont stink and its his fault all these players are left int he cold…

        August 27, 2015 at 19:47 Reply
      2. whytry1

        Does.sound to me the inactive leaders are really the problem not the alliance. Also sounds like the players are very much active. just needs someone step up and take the mantle.!! there must be a few who would be dying to. tell you what contact me In game whytry1 – I’ll do it..

        August 27, 2015 at 21:49 Reply
        1. Ayybbb

          nah just Eve dying. 18k people logged in at peak hours.

          August 28, 2015 at 03:50 Reply
          1. whytry1

            yeah and that

            August 28, 2015 at 17:01
  13. true story.

    Bad news, usually when an old alliance like that disbands most of the veterans end up unsubbing.

    August 27, 2015 at 17:40 Reply
    1. Svalbard is not a real place.

      This. For a lot of them, the only reason they were still playing would be their close alliance mates.

      August 27, 2015 at 18:34 Reply
    2. hmm

      most will go to the n3 alliances.like nc. kadeshi and darkness

      August 27, 2015 at 21:51 Reply
    3. Chris

      The alliance is disbanding, not the corps. Most likely the corps will just end up within other ex n3 entities.

      August 28, 2015 at 06:15 Reply
  14. Your local Goon


    August 27, 2015 at 21:53 Reply
  15. Dude from Dreddit

    Good fucking riddance………………..

    August 27, 2015 at 22:00 Reply
  16. Goobah

    EVE is dying. Confirmed. You can all go home now.

    August 27, 2015 at 22:30 Reply
  17. Alison King

    good riddance

    August 27, 2015 at 23:20 Reply
  18. Truth

    In Nulli’s defence, they didn’t have CCP in their pocket…

    August 28, 2015 at 00:25 Reply
    1. Tristan


      August 30, 2015 at 17:36 Reply
  19. Deltaguy

    How is this unconfirmed, gorga himself posted it ffs.

    August 28, 2015 at 02:24 Reply
  20. Uwotm8

    How did they come back from B-R and “win” that war?

    August 28, 2015 at 02:49 Reply
    1. Retired s2n pilot

      B-R was but a single battle, in a longer war. Before B-R CFCRUS lost a big supercapital fight in bed and were verry slowly losing the war. After the Massive win in B-R and the deserved Morale boost CFCRUS had N3PL on the run. N3PL retreated a little bit after the Titanicide. B-R was PLs staging system remember. We Nulli (s2n) jumped our assets to lowsec and moved to deep eastern nulsec for “staging” under strict orders not to Bring more then a single Carrier or slowcat. Pilots not capabele of flying them were told to bring only a handfull of ‘Cepters. CFCRUS made Some progress this time and as prommissed the CFC hellcamped our staging System and subsequently deadlines it. The CFC claimend victory and left. By the time the CFC left N3PL had regrouped its Supercapitals, including the ones that were not logged on in B-R due to TiDi witch ment for the corp in was in at the time alone: 4 titans and 6 or 7 supers. Due to the fact our common line members were still having their slowcats and with the super fleet in place again the russians were uitgerot steamrolled. The result was the biggest (rental) empire that eve has ever known.

      August 28, 2015 at 05:52 Reply
      1. Thatguy

        Entirely possible CFC didn’t want to kill their opposition off, so they could fight again in future. But most elite spaceship pilots can’t admit they lost the war and had to fight back to reclaim what they lost. I imagine a bunch of members in the CFC reckon that was a mistake – especially since it enabled the massive rental south.

        August 28, 2015 at 11:21 Reply
        1. Retired s2n pilot

          Your probably right if the CFC would have wanted they could have won that war.
          To make a WW2 comparison with RusRus beeing the USSR N3PL the Axis (PL Japan NC. Germany s2n Italy nexus Vici France) and the CFC the English speaking allies. After D-day (B-R) the alied forces had the Axis on the run. The sovjets marched on to finish of their enemy. To finish of first the european part and then together finish of the Japanese (PL/NC. )The yankees descided to waltz to Rome finish it off declare victory and move back home to the Amerika’s. And focus their attention on Some minor conflict in southern America. Alleingang the. Axis to roll over the USSR and farm the shit out of europe asia and Africa.

          August 29, 2015 at 06:51 Reply
      2. brathahn

        dude, N3 has never really attacked the CFC. the CFC instead has attacked N3 several times and won every engagement. N3 lost several regions to the CFC after they owned 75% of null sec. CFC terretority was the missing part to complete the blue donut for N3.

        N3 has not won a single war against the CFC.

        August 28, 2015 at 17:34 Reply
    2. LSM

      Ummm… Because after B-R the RUSRUS got spanked harder than a dominatrix with a new paddle?

      August 28, 2015 at 11:00 Reply
    3. grrrrrgoons

      Everyone is asking that question,
      I guess CFC just left their allies behind to get killed when they got tired of fighting and ran home?

      August 29, 2015 at 08:07 Reply
  21. Been there, burned that

    Gentlemen. If you’re never been through burnout in EVE it means one of two things: 1) It’s still coming or 2) You’re mooching off the guys and galls who work at making Eve fun for you.

    “Burn out” doesn’t mean you hate EVE. It means you just can’t flip that switch and give 120% to a virtual reality populated by pansy “gimme gimme” pilots who freak when their leaders don’t log on to make their evening entertainment. Here’s a hint: Grow a pair and lead the fleet yourself!

    August 28, 2015 at 03:04 Reply
    1. IwantYourMum

      Burned out is simply an excuse not to turn on because your misses wears the trousers around the house and has a list of jobs for you to do otherwise she won’t allow you to play spaceships.

      August 28, 2015 at 06:10 Reply
      1. Are you gay?

        Is this an insult?
        Because it sounds like the guy your talking about is getting laid, soooooooo….. O.o ?

        August 28, 2015 at 07:20 Reply
        1. IwantYourmum

          Getting laid….. just seems to me he’s being cocked whipped -)

          August 28, 2015 at 14:12 Reply
  22. Orbita500

    no one care of these retards

    August 28, 2015 at 09:33 Reply
  23. santa

    Thank you Gorga and JeanshitLeaner for destroying an awsome alliance.

    P.S. FUCK YOU jean leaner for ever!!!

    August 28, 2015 at 10:43 Reply
  24. Recruiting

    A lot of Nulli already either moved to PL or BL. Probably most will go there. I think other alliances will strugale to convince them to join.

    August 28, 2015 at 11:04 Reply
  25. hurr

    All the grrr goons alliances are dying lol.

    August 28, 2015 at 11:15 Reply
  26. Thatguy

    Confirmed: On Reddit, They’re downvoting anything with a CFC flair, jokes and insults with righteous fury.

    Not sure why high leadership couldn’t of just handed the reigns to new leaders, but whatever.

    August 28, 2015 at 11:16 Reply
  27. ex S2N

    Jean Jerk Leaner managed to ruin a very good alliance, now he’s on to next, NC.
    He’s too good not to succeed there also.

    August 28, 2015 at 20:53 Reply
  28. Vaximillian

    Ah yes more alliances falling apart and people being forced to realize the game has become boring and the only reason they were still playing it is because of the people they were flying with. Wonder how many of the vets will just say fuck it and unsub rather than go through the process of finding new people to play with and get used to. CCP is wringing their hands at this news thinking ah damn there goes another group that was held into subbing by “created content”.

    August 28, 2015 at 21:42 Reply
  29. Polska Kielbasa

    Minmatar Brotherhood Forever
    Forever Minmatar Brotherhood
    Long Live Ushra’Khan

    August 28, 2015 at 23:21 Reply
  30. Faded Hope

    Too bad, but the writing has been on the wall for a while with Nulli. It goes all the way back to Killah Bee’s decision to bail and join lame ass PL tbh.

    August 29, 2015 at 05:54 Reply
  31. Sjörövar Fabbe

    I thought EVE was disbanding soon too… Or was it CCP? Some of these failcorps you don’t care about anymore…

    August 30, 2015 at 15:27 Reply

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