AD-5B8 – Geminate

Reports are coming in today of the first, in what may be many large scale battles over sovereignty in Geminate. Initial reports suggest that up to 636 players were involved in a conflict over infrastructure hub timers in the systems of AD-5B8 and 54-MF6 in Geminate.

Battle rages from the perspective of a Black Legion dreadnought

The Attackers: Black Legion., SOLAR FLEET, Triumvirate. (13.56b Isk lost, Efficiency: 79%, 54 Ships lost)
The Defenders: Legion of xXDEATHXx, Total Absolution, Infinity Space. (50.87b Isk lost, Efficiency: 21%, 319 Ships lost)

The attackers, along with their dreads, opted to bring Tengus (SOLAR), Lokis (Black Legion.) and Ishtars (Triumvirate).
The defenders chose to bring a handful of triage carriers and Dominixes (xXDEATHXx), Scorpions (Total Absolution) and stealth bombers.

A brief order of events follows:

  • Black Legion had previously reinforced infrastructure hubs belonging to Legion of xXDEATHXx in AD-5B8 and 54-MF6 to create timers for this weekend.
  • xXDeathXx fail to form for the AD-5B8 timer.
  • A Total Absolution Scorpion fleet and xXDEATHXx Dominix fleet bridge to AD-5B8 as Black Legion assault the 54-MF6 Infrastructure Hub.
  • In addition, an xXDEATHXx bomber fleet is formed and ready to engage in 54-MF6.
  • As this particular constellation is a series of connected systems, Black Legion are able to manoeuvre into a position where they can engage xXDEATHXx coalition at their desired range by entering AD-5B8 from G-73MR.


  • With Black Legion now in position, and SOLAR and Triumvirate now in tow, the fight begins.
  • SOLAR are forced to retreat from the field with their FC being “Headshot” (Destroyed early on in the fight for tactical advantage)
  • Triumvirate Ishtars and Black Legion Lokis set to taking out xXDEATHXx coalition webbing ships before focusing on dominixes.
  • Around a third of the way through the battle, Black Legion and Triumvirate. turn their attention to the xXDEATHXx coalition triage capitals, making short work of them
  • SOLAR arrive back on field to assist Black Legion. and Triumvitate. in cleaning up the field.

A quick follow up Q&A.
Black Legion’s raknor bile was available to comment and confirm the particulars of the fight and operation in general.

raknor bile: we are still very bemused that they took the fight as all our dreads and triage were with our fleet and well scouted
raknor bile: so a real big GF to xdeath and friends and we will see them at the final timers tomorrow

Phantra: great, and what if any strategic objective was achieved?
raknor bile: yes we put both the ad- and 54- ihubs into final armor timers

Phantra: So is there a bigger picture for Geminate or is this open to speculation?
raknor bile: our goals are currently to take the space owned by legion of xdeath and their allies
raknor bile: they have hired or asked Pandemic Legion to assist them in holding the space and so far have retaken all the ground we gained up until they deployed down here

Phantra: Is the current attention on Geminate indicative of the drone regions campaign going stale?
raknor bile: it is still apart of the campaign, we have just refocused because taking systems in Cache is next to impossible with Pandemic Legion staged there, we have also lost all our staging POS in the important bridging system of n-rael to the Pandemic Legion ‘wrecking ball’ fleet of Archons and Aeons

Phantra: Do you think that in any way campaigns such as this are becoming hindered by an unfair or unbalanced dynamic in the game when it comes to sovreignty and capital/supercapital superiority?
raknor bile: in a way yes but that is just the game, for example and timer that Pandemic Legion wants to win they just bring Archons and supers to but get no fights out of it so you win but have no fun
raknor bile: the sov mechanics are what they are
raknor bile: they are mainly used to get a timer to fight over

Phantra: Great, and last question – has todays good fight with xXdeath put any wind back into the sails? Is it preferable for you to be here to get good fights or to win the overall campaign objective?
raknor bile: we have contimued to have good numbers throut the campaign but there is no dening that todays fight will only increase our numberrs for the final timers tomorrow, and yeah the objective is great but you can ask almost anyone and they would rarther have a great fight than win the timer
raknor bile: this might be diferent if you are the defender and are actually losing sov/POS

Sounds like fun! A full link to the battle report can be found here. Unfortunately no one from the opposing side was available for comment at the time of writing. Should one become available the thread will be updated.

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  1. argus sorn

    i love cock

    January 25, 2015 at 02:23 Reply
    1. eanm

      if it makes you happy

      January 25, 2015 at 02:37 Reply
    2. Ogast

      It is an interesting social media to come out of the closet on. However, whatever floats your boat

      January 25, 2015 at 09:57 Reply
  2. Solar and BL. Best Friends Forever!

    January 25, 2015 at 03:00 Reply
    1. mean

      Until solar decides their usefulness has run its course and mactep decides to betray yet another ally. I think I’ve seen this movie before.

      January 25, 2015 at 03:20 Reply
      1. raknor bile

        Yeah i don’t think that is going to happen Elo and machtep are tight and he would have to log in to lose a falcon.

        January 25, 2015 at 03:28 Reply
        1. yoyo

          Yeah, it’s not happened before that Russians backstab at every opportunity they get, that’s why they got trashed repeatedly by ncdot last year.

          Have the Ruskies learned from it?
          They are Russians so probably not.

          Will it happen again?
          They are Russians so YES.

          Will they call Goons again to help them?
          Russians are cowards so YES.

          January 25, 2015 at 08:13 Reply
          1. Daniel Grist

            of all the things you could say about russians, calling them cowards is the only thing you could say and be completely assuredly wrong.

            January 25, 2015 at 09:07
          2. Get-out

            You obviously no jack shit about Russians in this game then ?……….

            January 25, 2015 at 12:44
          3. wow someone is an idiot. Is this delta guy posting anonymously again.

            January 25, 2015 at 16:10
          4. Trollolololololol

            *harvesting the tears*

            January 25, 2015 at 09:59
          5. somedude

            without confirming or arguing against anything you said what rusians are you refering to ? on both sides of the conflict are rusians

            January 25, 2015 at 20:11
  3. BoBo McJoboMo

    Violet Sedan Chair

    January 25, 2015 at 05:56 Reply
  4. Goonion

    The only chance BL has of any kind of a future is if they join one of the N3 alliances as a corp. They are delluding themselves doing anything else.

    January 25, 2015 at 07:25 Reply
    1. butthurted goonie

      That’s why you hired them to go harase on xdeath to create another front and leave you shits alone to carebear again?

      January 25, 2015 at 07:33 Reply
    2. Necromonger

      BL will join goons before joining NC. i can tell you that.

      Read up on some history before you write 🙂

      January 25, 2015 at 11:17 Reply
      1. LSM

        Could you elaborate please on the history there? I don’t know anything about it so if you would be so kind as to explain ..

        January 25, 2015 at 17:35 Reply
        1. raknor bile

          there is no way we would Join the cfc over N3, we tried to get into N3 they said they didn’t want us getting more supers 🙁

          January 26, 2015 at 08:32 Reply
    3. LSM

      I’ve flown with BL, they are excellent pilots and I thoroughly enjoyed their fleets. They have the ability to stand on their own two feet better than most. Why would they fold into one Corp and join some other alliance?

      January 25, 2015 at 17:34 Reply
    4. That was hilarious

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA….. Pff aHHHHHh ahahahahahahha

      January 26, 2015 at 20:03 Reply
  5. Solar Scrubs & BL Cowards

    Lol so BL. Along with Solar and Tri are pretty much fighting xXdeathXx.
    Heroic fighting there boys. Wsit until your fighting xXdeathXx along side PL and NCdot very soon. See how far your progress goes then as usual.

    January 25, 2015 at 10:08 Reply
    1. Trollolololololol

      *harvesting the tears*

      January 25, 2015 at 10:11 Reply
      1. justinian

        Yeah, you already said that. Are those the only words you can string together coherently?

        January 27, 2015 at 03:34 Reply
    2. raknor bile

      Not sure if you know this but PL are already here and chose not to come help xdeath despite us being on field for 2 hours before the fight started so they had plenty of timer you know 12 spies. and yes because if NC. come down it will a super fun deployment for them come down get 0 fights and then what how long can you stay up north baby sitting xdeath while your shit gets burned to the ground down south because we are no longer helping you hold immensia so you go ahead NC deploy i dare you.

      January 25, 2015 at 10:35 Reply
      1. gn

        Holy fuck dude, what is grammar?

        January 25, 2015 at 17:53 Reply
        1. raknor bile

          oh no my grammar is bad so i automatically lose at internet space ships.

          January 25, 2015 at 19:00 Reply
      2. mr nobody

        PL was contracted to clean out cache and insomother which they did in around 12 days. If xix wanted help in geminate then they know who they can hire

        January 25, 2015 at 22:00 Reply
      3. Grunt

        actually, we deploy tomorrow …….. but where…where

        January 25, 2015 at 22:52 Reply
      4. Travisuchonela

        We prefer for you to spend a month or two grinding a region in subcaps before we roll it all back in 48 hours.

        January 26, 2015 at 18:22 Reply
        1. raknor bile

          thats ok we are getting some good fights, you carry on.

          January 26, 2015 at 19:16 Reply
    3. Akunja

      How is fighting against: Legion of xXDEATHXx, Total Absolution, Infinity Space. Hard Alliance, Shadow od xXDeathXx…etc…etc and PL,…fighting xXdeathXx ?

      They wont fight against PL at all, cause they almost never deploy subcaps, so who the heck will fight 200 Supers from PL and 90 Titans? You want see that movie.

      But you will be bored…..and that will be “gg” ??

      January 25, 2015 at 11:12 Reply
      1. Meh Russian Faggots

        So allowing xXDeathXx to be out numbered against so called Elite like BL. Solar, CFC alliances is all fun and games when you have upper hand. When tables are equaled you get slaughtered and every gain you make gets reversed.

        January 25, 2015 at 14:37 Reply
        1. gg

          Almost as if you have never played EVE before.

          January 25, 2015 at 15:59 Reply
    4. AFK

      Why are NCDot there, are they mercs now as well? Or just too lazy/pussy to make their own content?

      January 25, 2015 at 13:43 Reply
    5. Miley Cyrus

      Just out of interest. What where the numbers here? Seemed Black Fleet numbers were fairly matched considering there were 200 pilots on carrier loss mails and xdeath lost 319 ships in total…..

      January 25, 2015 at 13:44 Reply
    6. Reticent Toad

      LOL… why would tri/bl/solar be worried about those two scrubs joining in? NCdot is too busy getting their shit pushed in against CFC when ever they take the field and PL… well let’s not kid ourselves, they ain’t gonna do shit

      January 25, 2015 at 16:23 Reply
    7. lolncpl

      Happy to fight pathetic legion when they actually use ships that require the user to actually play the game. Wrecking ball fleets are boring and shows just how bad PL is at fun. case in point: they can’t even win against brave without caps

      January 25, 2015 at 17:20 Reply
      1. mr nobody

        Maybe you shouldn’t ddos PL services, this was never about fair fights, but what ever chance there was evaporated when you and your bum buddies started ddosing. That really pissed of the powers to be. You then had to coward out

        January 25, 2015 at 20:47 Reply
        1. k

          BL gets ddosed at the same time pl does.

          January 26, 2015 at 00:04 Reply
      2. Travisuchonela

        “You’re not having fun beating us” is probably the worst EVE narrative ever.

        January 26, 2015 at 18:19 Reply
    8. GSection

      Provocative and hard hitting commentary!

      January 25, 2015 at 17:31 Reply
  6. eve player

    why not go against the cfc they need their asses kicked big time

    January 25, 2015 at 14:03 Reply
    1. Trollololololololol

      *harvesting the tears*

      January 25, 2015 at 16:58 Reply
    2. truth

      because bl is basically been working for cfc for the last year or so

      January 25, 2015 at 19:48 Reply
    3. neon

      They have tried and every time they fail

      January 26, 2015 at 13:05 Reply
  7. mr nobody

    BL and solar/dream fleet are like housos (housing commission / council) most people will agree that they roof over thier head / sov. But no one wants them moving in next to them

    January 25, 2015 at 22:02 Reply
  8. Deltaguy

    If only one of these worthless eve websites had a livestream up of the massive fight going on now. its only eve news.

    January 25, 2015 at 23:10 Reply
    1. Bobmon

      We try to do this as much as possible and we will continue to post more live stuff as much as we can!

      January 26, 2015 at 11:40 Reply
  9. Jumpin Jack

    So BL is complaining about PL using to much caps….hmm…funny is that the same BL that tried to sneak his supers and titan in GE- to try to trap PL? Ah i got it, BL is in tears because PL killed all of their supers + titan, so now they get comfort in “subcaps are fun”, and they scream nerf the supers, couse they are to poor to replace those in next few months…..Ok, BL you are good, i mean you guys are really good, but you are not the elite, we all know that PL is the elite here, you can hate it, you can lie to others and yourself but your place and level of competence is K3 or lowsec npc station at best so pls stop whinnig all the time, you are victims of your own idea that u are elite GG

    January 26, 2015 at 11:30 Reply
    1. raknor bile

      So let me get this right you are saying that PL is elite because we have no more supers and they do? so you are basing skill level of assets? Like i fully admit PL are good at this game but is this game fun if you don’t actually fight the enemy? I thought that shooting enemy space ships was a thing maybe i am mistaken.

      January 26, 2015 at 11:57 Reply
      1. Jumpin Jack

        Hey BL guys do you need calculators maybe, for those WHs? I can get them for you on low prices…

        January 27, 2015 at 09:23 Reply
    2. lete lol

      Pl use to be elite when they actually engaged in fights worth fighting and not just fighting brave ect oh how dis that war go by the way?

      January 26, 2015 at 13:34 Reply
    3. asd

      The only thing you need to instantaneously get accepted into PL these days is acquiring a super capital. No skill required. PL has non intrusion pacts with every major sov player. PL is i giant chicken! their weighted killboard ratings fall behind entities like Brave, CVA and TEST, that’s right. Put this into relation with the amount of kills and isk destroyed they have and there is a simple conclusion to draw: PL is blobber garbage !

      January 26, 2015 at 14:41 Reply
    4. Sold

      PL is not what they once were. They have a small core of excellent experienced players. And they are still fabulously rich, even after B-R. But the majority of their membership is made up of bad super-capital-owning has-beens.

      January 26, 2015 at 15:20 Reply
    5. Daniel Grist

      It depends on your view of elite, i doubt that in full force any single alliance in this game can beat PL in cap/super fights, note i say single.
      But at the same time, i dont remember ever losing to PL in a subcap fight in my time in BL, BL are the kings of subcap warfare, PL are the kings of Cap warfare. in the current meta, that means i guess that PL are the most “elite”.

      And lets be honest anyway, Goons are probably the strongest alliance if you take into account Influence Diplomacy Intelligence Economy etc etc. But they completely underplay themselves as the underdog narrative keeps them fresh and non failcascadey.

      January 26, 2015 at 21:04 Reply
  10. na

    This fight didn’t happen. “No EU tz fun allowed”.

    January 26, 2015 at 17:34 Reply
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