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In the next couple of days Repercussus [-R.P-], one of the main US time zone corps in RAZOR Alliance, will be leaving.

This is a significant piece of information because members of that corp include Troyd23 (one of the sitting Troika), one of the <-RZR-> top US TZ military commanders and also one of the <-RZR-> head diplomats.

[-R.P-] also makes up a huge chunk of the current <-RZR-> US TZ and they most likely won’t be able to field as many fleets in that time zone without them. In fact, so far in November the corporation has been involved with over 23 billion worth of kills.

This is confirmed intel directly from the [-R.P-] corp leadership and their plan is to join Goonswarm Federation

The reason for the move is unhappiness over the current state of affairs in <-RZR-> and dissatisfaction with the organizational structure as a whole. I spoke to Dograzor, Diplomat for <-RZR-> alliance and he gave this statement on their behalf;1521102911_256

We are confirming that RP is leaving RAZOR Alliance on friendly terms, we will miss them and we hope that their decision works out for the best for all that are involved.

When asked about the reasons given by [-R.P-] for the move, Dograzor said that RAZOR Alliance would not comment on their internal affairs.

In my opinion Repercussus moving from <-RZR-> to Goonswarm will be a minor adjustment at most and will likely just involve switching comms and restationing with their fellow GSA corps. They will still be part of the CFC and have access to all that entails.

However if <-RZR-> are still trying to prove their prowess both in EvE and as a valuable full member of the CFC then losing this type of active USTZ PVP corp from their ranks will undoubtedly hurt. Whether or not this opens the gates for other corps to leave all depends whether the other corps in <-RZR-> are having the same type of issues that Repercussus has been having with <-RZR->.

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Also of note, the person who is responsible for maintaining and paying for all of the <-RZR-> online infrastructure is stepping down and will most likely be quitting EvE for the foreseeable future. This person is not a member of [-R.P-] and it is unknown who will be taking this responsibility in the future. Dograzor of RAZOR alliance could neither confirm nor deny this information.

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  • Matterall

    Aw. I like Razor and they have a better rep than goons. why make this change?

    • EX-RZR

      RZR haven’t, RP has. Can’t stop a sinking ship.

  • This is interesting considering that Oberon Incorporated left Razor last week. I guess things must be really bad in Razor these days

  • This is interesting considering that Oberon Incorporated left Razor last week. I guess things must be really bad in Razor these days

  • Vaximillian

    Razor and other CFC related entities are only farm systems for Goonswarm. Has been that way for a LONG time. Goons use RZR and other CFC alliances to test out corps and members. If they like a pilot or a corp they will lure them into Goons and off of their farm alliance. I played long enough to remember a day when Razor wasn’t a farm bitch for Goons. But apparently Razor doesn’t mind bending over once in a while and taking it so that goons can supplement its roster with new blood. Why does RZR put up with this? The only answer can be that they simply don’t believe they can make it in the EVE universe on their own. RZR. Just another alliance taking it in the ass to prop up the same old existing blue donut because they don’t have the pride or the balls to go out on their own and carve out a place in space. Plenty of alliances on the N3 side do the same damn thing. Not JUST picking on RZR. They just happen to be making the headlines for it. And the corp who left to join goons? When are people going to realize that corps who join N3 or Goons prove they have no interest in solid pvp. They are corps who want to carebear ride the gravy train or drop on people 40 v 1. With the Phoebe changes and the new open space in the east any solid pvp alliance or corp would be breaking off and claiming their own area. There is no excuse any more for the blue donut after Phoebe. People who still support it are either pure carebears looking for safety in numbers or pvp failures who are too scared or incapable or going out on their own.

    • Dumbledore

      But aren’t Razor right that they play no role in Eve without CFC? Without their wannabe elite attitude, they’d be kind of cute like BNI. But they think they’re leet pvp yet are in reality a bunch of F1 pushers.

      • lol elite pvp

        All the “elite pvp” grroups are just F1 pushers. Watch any recording from BL, EG, etc. Bunch of nerds anchored up pressing F1 on primary from 100km in Tengus.

        Eve is not a skill game.

        • lulz elite pvp

          Word. Large fleet ops only require following FC commands.

          • TYYRATHOS

            EVE…….. A grand game of Simon Says 🙂

        • Afk

          And yet people still lemming, don’t anchor, don’t focus fire, don’t broadcast, don’t align, etc etc etc. If you can’t handle a no skill game then what does it say about you (generic)….

        • Varesk

          i am pretty sure your little lowsec or high sec merc corp are “elite pvp”. post some videos so we can watch you push f1 and anchor on your target.

          • Foolish angry bitter varesk

            Firstly, Varesk, don’t fabricate allegations about someone’s background, which you know nothing about, to win an internet argument. It just makes you look stupid and immature. Secondly, they never claimed that they themselves were “elite.” Their last sentence, and the name they posted under, are clearly about the game as a whole. You lack of reading comprehension verifies your stupidity, so you personally should be glad that Eve is about numbers.

          • Trauma Council

            “*Your* lack of reading comprehension verifies *you’re* stupid.”

            Your lack of writing skills verifies you’re stupid. It doesn’t, I just thought I’d throw that back in your face 😉

        • Slevin-Kelevra

          Yay he called BL elite o/

    • pet watcher

      the ‘we’re not pets we’re allies’ line is stretched pretty thin

    • marcus

      “When are people going to realize that corps who join N3 or Goons prove they have no interest in solid pvp.”
      Yeah… because everyone in N3/Goons is only allowed to rat or join F1 fleets…

    • Hasu

      Personally i came back to eve about 6 months ago… i wanted to kill goons so i joined N3, i doubt i am the only one… when goons are dead we’ll see what happens.. but that is first priority for me

      • Slevin-Kelevra

        If you wanted to kill goons you would have joined Tri, MOA, BL, or anyone else living in the middle of CFC space.

        • Ciaphas Cyne

          this^^

      • elite_fishtanker

        how are you enjoying life in omist? lol.

    • Hobo

      Cute, very cute. But wrong. Corps that moved around from RZR have active leadership and an active memberbase. There are structural issues in RZR and the corp leaders are doing what is best for their line members. Your hatred of goons makes you blind to such agency though.

      • Sovscrub

        I heard CoD and WoW have an active memberbase as well.

        • Ciaphas Cyne

          did you really just fail to make a successful “go back to wow” comment? poor dude…

    • Angelique Duchemin

      You can’t steal human beings. They go where they please. At best you can simply fail to hold a persons interest but you can’t physically claim them.

    • Zim Babwe

      You look old in your picture.

      • Vaximillian

        Damn you sir! That is EASILY the most hateful thing anyone has ever said to me in my 12+ years of EVE Online. I demand you take it back. The years were well spent so far btw. 😉

    • Ciaphas Cyne

      lets be honest… anyone in eve looking for something close to fair fights have all left for rvb, lowsec, or tourny alliances.

  • Akrasjel Lanate

    Joining GSF what a suprise… one could say that all CFC alliances are feeders for the GFS… and leadership of those alliances seems to have no issue with that

    • facts

      look @ map.. why Goons throw his allies on the borders..? Allies=meat shield in CFC

      • Ciaphas Cyne

        old jump ranges can be confusing and misleading, i know. luckily thats changed now so you dont have to learn it…

        anyway, despite the map showing what appears to be a flat physical plane of space… its actually a shapeless set of rooms connected with teleporters. the n3 dont have to slog through FA space to reach GSF space like theyre some french suffering through a russian winter. you just base out of lowsec within jump range of deklein. now in pheobe the buffer helps slightly more… but again… this isnt land on a planet. its solar systems connected by gates and cynos… the map is misleading.

        alliances in pre pheobe CFC are given regions more based on their content than their location.

  • Dumbledore

    “unhappiness over the current state of affairs in ”

    Why “current” when Razor has been equally bad since it was founded.

    • Yawn

      Rhetorical idiocy. At least you’re consistent.

  • BahhDa

    We tolled you all like 6 months ago, rzr is an old giant refusing to change. It will rot and crumble.

    • elite_fishtanker

      tole us more please

    • AFK

      Ask not for whom the bells tolls.

  • NC.Guy

    Lol just lol cfc what a fucking joke razor what happened to you use to have at least a little respect for you stop taking it in the ass from goons seriously

  • AFK

    I was going to give some opinion on this but, the good thing about Phoebe (and future expansions) is that trash like this no longer need to occupy my mind. If they want to dogpile into north east and shuffle around and fight each other for forsaken hubs, then go for it. Good luck to you. The new sov means the rest of can get on and play the game without any more thought to this 30000 carebear coalition ruining it.

    • Tristan

      hahaha best comment 2014

    • Ciaphas Cyne

      if they are carebears how do they “ruin” your game?

      • F2 monkey

        Are you implying that being a carebear is exclusively PvE related?

        Also the large sov holding entities aren´t ruining anyones game besides their own. The clever people moved on to greener pastures in game, while the sovbears are mass unsubbing out of boredom. Maybe it this will kill EvE, maybe it won´t. Who cares anymore? When the servers go dark these spacenerds will have wasted hours upon hours with shipspinning, hugging titans and shooting red crosses, in the hopes that this will somehow please their natural herd mentality and their desire be relevant in an internet spaceship game, while the rest of us was having fun all along.

        The best thing that can happen to you in this game is to realize that pixel spaceships are indeed not serious business.

        • Ciaphas Cyne

          “Are you implying that being a carebear is exclusively PvE related?”

          no im implying that any group that has the power to influence your game and emotions that much are not “carebears” but ive never said “goons ruin your game”… AFK did…

          personally, i like goons. nice folks as far as ive ever had to deal with them.

          anyway… this:

          “Maybe it this will kill EvE, maybe it won´t. Who cares anymore? When the servers go dark these spacenerds will have wasted hours upon hours with shipspinning, hugging titans and shooting red crosses, in the hopes that this will somehow please their natural herd mentality and their desire be relevant in an internet spaceship game”

          …is absolutely massive tryhard bullshit and makes me think you dont believe your own statement of:

          “pixel spaceships are indeed not serious business.”

      • AFK

        Because pre Phoebe the galaxy was a fishbowl, and these “players” could go and blob and max tidi “3rd party” anywhere at ease. Now they are a faraway country with strange ways of “playing” I don’t need to concern myself with.

        • Ciaphas Cyne

          first of all, having the power and desire to do that makes them not carebears. but thats not really my opinion or experience of goons, anyway. i live in placid and the only interaction i had with my close neighbors from deklein were positive. solo and 2v2 good fights, the occasional harpy fleet, lots of indy guys to gank.. and always nice in local chat. never personally seen goons over react and blob my lowsec fleet, nor have i ever seen goons 3rd party a fight in the gal/cal warzone.

          i have, however, delt with pl third partying and stopping almost every single big fight weve had with anyone in black rise or placid. they have legit ruined our fun many times, especially when we are roflstomping their baby brothers in waffles. cant say the same for goons.

          oh and if you think the days of 10k+ member alliances influencing how you play are over… well i got some bad news for you…

  • guesty

    that’s three corps that have left rzr, two joining goons and one being set up by goons as a CFC alliance. the next obvious step if for goons either to order rzr to fold or them leaving/being pushed out of the cfc.

    • Midtown East

      Don’t forget hirr defecting to NC.

      That’s another one.

      • Anon

        They defected because they werent given the oportnity the graduates got from the CFC – RZR is falling apart tbh because they cant hit their own standarts anymore

        • Hobo

          Incorrect – hirr was keeping ‘all their options open’. TGRADs made it clear from the beginning that they have no intention of leaving the CFC unless it was a last resort.

  • notgetit

    “…because members of that corp include Troyd23 (one of the sitting Troika), one of the top US TZ military commanders and also one of the head diplomats”

    so, leaders are leaving cause they dislike how rzr is lead ?!

    • marcus

      leader – not all of razor leadership

    • Tristan

      Fool..

    • Hobo

      RZR is composed of corps who have their own leadership who are alive and well. Not all alliances are led by 2-3 people, with the corps being just a bunch of warm bodies.

    • .

      Razor is a democratic (lel) alliance. That would be more akin to a senator leaving the senate because it’s a cesspool.

    • Anon

      Sshhhh don’t tell anybody!
      These two from RP that had some kind of significance in the alliance probably decided that it was more worth their time playing other games than actually living up to the leading role if they have to actually engage with other people and compromise instead of just leading their own little bunch.
      Leading is hard and not much prepares you for it. These two, like a lot of other people as well, just had no idea that it is even more important to lead in hard times than in easy ones. It’s not always fun, it’s most of the time hard work and a lot of talking with people you don’t even like.
      When you come in like a whirlwind once every two weeks for two days, blowing away what other people prepared in advance and shitting at the military chain of command while still being awfully mediocre but since you have the rank no one can tell you know and afterwards you just go back to playing other games, then you are indeed not an inspiring leader and should rather look for a place already made that isn’t in as much peril as RAZOR is.

      • Anon2

        This sounds like Tusc or Jarnack talking.

      • herp derp

        lol, no doubt, hi Tuscorah! Being “anon” usually works better if you don’t copy/paste the same shit from when you yourself bailed on RZR.

  • mikeamirhight?

    its funny to see that now all corps have left that were near the hirr conspiracy cycle. yep totally seems like it was alone hirr responsible for all the drama shit happened there. /irony

    sad to hear carved will leave eve, now ice and sin have to make a change to keep rzr alive. or you just leave it to nazi general anharat to run it to the ground. niffer and gus wont help at all in their state

    • Anon

      hirr are some of the nicest people i know tbh ^^

    • notrzr

      butthurt detector

    • Hobo

      The grievances were the same, or very similar. hirr’s ability to concoct drama was head and shoulders above the others though. In fairness, most of the hirr folks are good people. But the louder, more active members were also the bigger assholes. Hence, :drama:.

    • nope

      Carved is leaving? I think your mistaking MrRx7 as the person mentioned in the end of the post. Carved has nothing to do with the razor infrastructure.

      On that note rumor has it he’s holding 1/5th of Razor’s total savings, I wonder if he plans on taking that with him or giving it back.

      • mikeamiright?

        yeah, meant mrx7
        i dont see why he should not take it with him. rzr saved so much money and are not using their income effectively. it wont affect rzr at all.

  • Candyman

    It’s been a long time coming… too many bitchy little girls all trying to be the prom queen, which is nothing new in Null politics.

  • Peckerweed Pete

    EvE never changes. The so-called ‘leaders’ only rotate from one cock gobble to the next. Biggest bunch of faggots in the gaming world.

  • Peckerweed Pete

    EvE never changes. The so-called ‘leaders’ only rotate from one cock gobble to the next. Biggest bunch of faggots in the gaming world.

  • Hobo

    Since we’re in the mode of reporting corps leaving RZR, you missed OI leaving them last week too. OI were one of the steadier hands in RZR, part of no drama but getting stuff done.

  • Guest

    Question: Goons have always been tied to Somethingawful forums, even making it hilariously clear on their site that you were being scammed if you were offered recruitment ingame. Clearly, people and entire corps do join them ingame. So what’s the deal? Is it just goonwaffe that’s from Somethingawful? Is everyone in -R.P- expected to subscribe to SA? Am I out of date? Anyone in the know care to answer?

    • Hobo

      Goons have .. changed. The cesspit of SA recruits are but a small proportion of the Goon populace now.

      • Ciaphas Cyne

        ive always maintained that goons are perceived as scammers because paying 10 bucks for a terrible forum is a scam in itself.

        • elite_fishtanker

          $10 for a terrible forum
          $15/mo for a terrible game

          seems consistent.

    • Stamin Primer

      As a member of CFC that has looked into this, several member corps of GoonSwarm Federation will scam you, but Goonwaffe itself only recruits from SA. The other corps have their own recruitment methods

    • AFK

      SA goons are mostly inactive so need to surround themselves with 10000 pubbie pillows otherwise they’d be kicked back to syndicate in a new york minute.

    • gg

      Somethingawful used to be a big community, like eight years ago.

  • elnator

    How is this a leak, exactly? A simple check of dotlan will get you most of the information in this post.

  • kman4

    So a goon Dog is joining Goons, how is this news… lol JK
    I do lihe how EvE News gets News out much quicker than the Mittanni though.
    The Mittanni still has much better writing.

    • elite_fishtanker

      lol if you think this is news worth reporting.

    • Candyman

      If you think shameless propaganda spiced up with biased rhetoric is actually “writing” in any capacity, sure.