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Well, the cat is out of the bag, here is a couple of intel hints and transcript we got on the prelude to today’s announcement:

War Update 2/11/14
From: The Mittani
Sent: 2014.02.11 13:01
To: [CLASSIFIED]

As most of you are aware our time in the East is quickly finishing up. What this means is the CFC is mobilizing again.

Our final destination can not yet be said but have your supers ready your leadership is already tracking what to do and what to be expecting. This weekend is the deployment. Don’t fuck around because I keep hearing about the same excuses.

Ensure you are starting to pack up because once we leave Immensea it is game over for this side of the universe. Also make sure your carrier pilots are prepped and ready and full of doctrine ships. Don’t be a dick either because if you have any space whatsoever in your carriers help our alliance buddies out.

This is a 100% withdraw from Immensea so catching every possible train and cyno op possible is your key to success and not being left behind to rot.

I’ve had a few folks come to me with concerns lately about whether or not the CFC is ruining the game for ourselves by taking over the galaxy. I would like to put that to rest with some explaining. 🙂

First off, the CFC leadership talks often about how NOT to ruin the game for ourselves. A lot of people have the misperception that the CFC owns half of the galaxy atm. That is completely false. PL/N3 currently own MORE systems than the CFC and our Russian temporary allies in the south COMBINED. Obviously that disparity in income is bad for us (most of the sov is renter space, unlike CFC sov). By destroying a majority of what N3 owns and then letting the southern russian coalition move in, we hope to set up a 3rd powerbloc in the game to balance out the remains of N3/PL as well as the CFC. This will make the game more interesting, and thus funner to play. At that point the CFC will go home and deal with problems like the Fountain Core residents which are poking hard at the CFC’s side.

So don’t let your folks get discouraged that we’re ruining Eve. We’re aiming to make it better without getting the CFC killed off in the process.

OH! No CEO meetings this weekend due to the movement ops. Mittani is basically announcing everything i’ve said here plus a few other things (that he doesnt want revealed yet so i’m not ruining his grandstanding too much) saturday at 1800 and then we’re all moving to better staging grounds.

My people, you may have expected this to be a victory speech. A round of congratulations about B-R5 and sweeping up Immensea, Tenerifis and Omist, followed by praise to our Russian allies and announcing that relations between the CFC and Solar Fleet have never been closer, our new bonds forged together in war. That’s all true – but this is not that speech.
Perhaps you expected me to ask you to continue to train for Archons and Naglfars – which is true, you should do that – but this is not that speech.
Perhaps you expected me to to say that after B-R5, everyone in the CFC should also aim to own a Titan or a Supercarrier. That’s true too – you should absolutely get supercapitals, such that we can maintain our newfound superiority over our enemies. But this is not that speech.

My people, we have been at war since November. This war has seen its ups and its downs; while we achieved a crushing victory in B-R5, we suffered a crushing loss in HED-GP. I know that we are tired – tired of the grind, tired of taking systems from N3 without a fight, tired of endless bloc warfare.
What I am about to ask you to do is not easy, and I know that. I’m going to ask you to give me a week – a week of absolute commitment – in this silly little internet spaceship game that we all play.

One week.

Your favorite FCs and all of our allies have already committed to this. We are about to enact a strike that Mister Vee designed himself. You’re going to love it, and it’s going to catch the entire galaxy by surprise. The reward for your week of hard driving?

~IF~ we succeed – and this is a very big if – you will see the tears flow and hear a chorus of screams of the like we have not seen since the disbanding and conquest of Band of Brothers.
When I tell you what we are going to do, there is going to be a mad rush. You need to be ready to jump, with your carriers packed, as soon as this speech ends. We know our enemies will scramble literally everything they have to stop us, and this first hour of the operation will be the most critical.

So right now, I’m going to ask you to join the fleets to move. Mister Vee has a fleet guarding the N3 staging system to make sure that they do not interfere with our plans, but we have other enemies lurking. Some of these fleets may begin to move during this speech itself; listen to your fleet commanders and don’t distract them with idle chatter during this critical moment.
Euro Goonion is already deployed to secure the movement, they have the boring duty of locking down N3 while we get the fuck out of the East.

As you know, we’re moving out of AF0. We will not be returning anytime soon. There will be follow-up convoys for those of you who have missed this speech, never fear.
The galaxy thinks we are heading to Fountain, to Venal or to Providence. These are amusing diversions, but fundamentally a waste of a full CFC deployment. Yet we cannot stay in the East forever; this war between the RUS and N3 is not ours, and we must look towards our home. The situation is extraordinarily complex.
So, my friends, what do we do?

We end the war between the RUS and N3 by stabbing N3 in their heart over and over and over again until they stop moving. We go to their staging system in 0-W778 in Detorid – that system where they have evacuated three regions worth of assets, all the filth and all of the dross from Immensea, Tenerifis and Omist – All the Kadeshis, all the Whysos, all the Unthinkables, and of course Nulli Secunda, who proved themselves in B-R5 by leaving Pandemic Legion and NCdot to die, putting less Titans on the field than Triple-A, retreating before anyone else and abandoning their allies.
This is why we allowed N3 to evacuate I-N in Immensea. Not ~mercy~, not some Sun Tzu bullshit about golden bridges of retreat. We let them consolidate all their assets from all their lost regions in one place, and if you give us this next week, if you commit absolutely to this operation, they will lose not only a tremendous amount of assets, but their entire active capital fleet.
For the next week, we will live in 0-W778 23/7. We will trap them in their staging system and crush the life out of them. We will repel any attempts to spring them from their coward’s prison, because they deserve this fate. Nothing will live, nothing will escape.

The fleet Mister Vee formed to guard our supposed move to the West is actually the first wave in this assault. You will be moving your assets from AF0 to One-Victor and immediately rushing to support the Scourging of 0-W778. Every N3 tower will be burned and caged. We will live in 0-W778 in staging towers; we will log out in 0-W778 in staging towers. For the next week our complete focus is on the capture of 0-W778.

When Goonswarm was founded, we based our diplomacy on one principle: to be the best possible friend and the worst possible enemy. N3 declared that they exist to destroy us: if we merely slap them on the wrist and take three regions from them, we are hardly the worst possible enemy. It is time to live up to our founding ethos.
I know you can do this. In the Great War, we held the camp of PR-dash for THIRTY DAYS. I ask you now to give us just one week.
Our allies are already on the move, Mister Vee is already there, and the jaws of our trap are closing.
I’ll see you in 0-W778.

We’ll be livestreaming the camp of Detorid later on today, but for the time being, discuss.

  • ASDFXDXDXDXDXD

    BOOOOM HEADSOT!

  • Homophobic John

    You almost feel bad for N3, until you remember the elitism and cowardice. Then you kinda feel like they deserve it.

    As an aside, Im buying all firesales, Jita price-99%

    • Space Dude

      Elitism and cowardice? WTF are you smoking? Oh wait, this is part of the narrative.

      • lets be honest, remember before B-D, N3 was really preaching the we are the most elite alliance in EVE. We are better at flying capitals than any other alliance out there.

        • Chris

          N3 is a coalition not an alliance.

          People like nexus and nulli are definitely not elite.

          • wait nexus has actually been a part of this war? who the hell is nexus

          • Chris

            Exactly. Point is not all of them are elite.

          • Robo

            Some scrubs are nearly worth replying to, they are straight off of TMC hot on the reels of horse shit spewed forth by mittens forever drivel.

          • lol you take this game way to seriously.

          • Robo

            You getting mad, that was easy, light bit of trolling and your already reverting to automated 1 liners of no relevance o/o high five faggot 😛

          • dude i am laughing so much right now as we are reinforcing every single tower in 0-W and N3 cries in local.

        • Robo

          Your a stupid cunt arn’t you, you can bearly wipe your arse and your giving your pot meets kettle comments… Honestly go home.
          N3 simply play te game for fun, challanges and fights, a majority contrast to cfc/Rus.
          It’s cfc/Rus who like to say N3/PL are elite to fit their narrative. Now it’s true, it’s factual that a lot of people in N3/PL are far more Pvp orientated, but that’s their perogative, it’s why they don’t won’t to be in cfc/Rus blue doughnut, there’s no challange in being risk averse carebears who jump on the next ship as soon as they don’t feel safe, and blue to every one, selling your souls to the devil.

          • Homophobic John

            Don’t be so mad about your stuffs. Ill buy them from you. See my first post on this thread for pricing.
            Also: barely* aren’t* You’re*
            Don’t be so butthurt you cant use grammar.

          • Robo

            Bahahahaaa a faggot, ohh wow…
            Never had to fire sale anything at all, if ever needed that’s where having alts in cfc alliances is useful.
            1 a penny ol boy.

          • Deadzoned

            You clearly do no understand the concept of DEADZONE, so here’s a link for you:
            http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/R3P0-Z

          • Homophobic John

            Its ok, you can let out your anger here. We wont hurt your space ships at this place.

            Just remember, you’re not elite.

          • were you in that unthinkable fleet that got crushed? is that way you are so angry. But i play Eve for fun and it is fun to build and empire and crush your enemies. Also dude you totally said that N3 super experienced and better than the CFC at flying caps. You pretty much have said that the N3 is more elite. You are too funny lol.

          • Robo

            See your thick as shit… As simple as they come. Carry on in your blissful ignorance 🙂

          • only if you do the same because it is pretty easy to tell you are loving your tinfoil hat.

          • Robo

            I’m actually having fun trolling turds right now waiting for my pizza to be delivered, if you knew me slightly you’d know I greatly enjoy trolling autistic band wagon faggots who know literally nothing about anything 😉 carry on ol chap.

          • “autistic band wagon faggots who know literally nothing about anything” you should not talk about yourself like that. You have some worth…somewhere.

          • Robo

            Bahahaa automated 1 liners of a child… I’m cackling an evil laugh right now with how predictabley inept you are.

          • lol don’t you worry your pretty little head. Every single post you make on here is the same. “Oh god don’t listen to the Mittani, he is fucking everyone over.” “Oh goons are such shit and cowards and don’t want to fight” “Oh you are a faggot for disagreeing with me.” You might want to try something else buddy. It is getting kind of old.

          • Methylated Spirit

            Calling people faggots and retards is not childish? You sir are a dolt and a poor troll.

          • Really?

            You should just post screenshots of the way he post b4 B-R instead, that way he cannot feign amnesia…

            It will be more effective, at least he would have to be more creative in his response.

          • xxxxx

            If you don’t like it scrub, feel free to quit then. We won’t laugh too hard.

          • Robo

            Lmao wonder how many loss mails you’ve fed me 😉

    • Robo

      Cowardice, you talking about N3/pl or cfc/Rus?

    • anonymous

      Cowardice? If being the only coalition in the game that had the balls to stand up against the CFC is being cowards then I never want to not be a coward.

  • Space Dude

    They should have started this one day ago. Called it the Valentine’s Day Massacre or something.

    • Subhuman

      Mittens was too busy with his … what teh fuck is his dogs breed anyway looks like someone took a real dog and shrank it so he wouldnt feel so inadequate .. date last night

  • Exostrike

    Great so after we’ve lost one region the CFC is now going to try and steam roller the rest of null sec in the attempt to own all sov. It doesn’t help that I can’t fly the local alliance fits so I feel completely useless in events and am just trying to mask ISK to afford the over priced ships in the local market.
    I really do hope CCP have a nuclear option if this happens otherwise we are going to have a game which its higher levels is broken.

    • Homophobic John

      Join us! Every third Wednesday of every second month, we do the “one of us” chant for exactly six hours and forty-nine minutes. It is told that this ritual allows us to conquer our enemies, though Im pretty sure it has something to do with the ritual sacrifice to Zondor: Demigod of the seventh dimension, Keeper of the stone of power, and rightful heir to the throne of Elipsis.

      Afterwards we have punch and pie. FUCKIN PUNCH AND PIE MATE!!!!!! How can you resist????

  • Subhuman

    Average attention span of a goon vs a full weeks worth of grind. Yeah guessing the great withdrawl from 0-W will be announced by Tuesday.

    • Subhuman

      Also this is completely different from 6VDT at the end of the BoB war, for a start 90% of the N3 coalition assets are not based there, just scrubs like COW etc. Mittens may just have masterstroked his own war effort

      • well PL said the same thing, that all their assets were not in B-D, so it is kind of hard to believe you.

        • Homophobic John

          B-R*

          (Only helping you because thats twice you’ve done it. Its fucking bugging me)

          • thanks, I was even there and I can’t remember the dumb name of the system.

          • Robo

            Because your autistic and have aids maybe?

          • maybe but you sure do love crying for attention from me

          • the giant golden butt plug

            Did you lose a titan back there?
            oh noes.. looks like someone is butt hurt.
            too bad you cannot plug that hole any longer 🙁 (you see what i did there?)

          • Robo

            Never lost a Titan 🙂

          • Really?

            but u sure let your homies die in a fire though!

            #YOLO

          • Robo

            Special needs… Lowest IQ in Mongolia? Choose your pick any explanation of the likes would establish your ravings of delusion.

          • Methylated Spirit

            You do realise Mongolia us a real place, right? I don’t think that “insult” means what you think it means.

        • Woschdbrot

          pretty much reminds me of “no assets in B-R” and “all titans have been already replaced, no biggie”. Of course this isn’t a death sentence to n3, but it will surely hit their assets, their income, their ability to move around and coordinate – but most of all – morale. I doubt this will be the last system to be permacamped to break n3.

          • Subhuman

            You are both underestimating the resilience of N3 and overextimating the ability of the line goon to sit there for 7-8 hours a day all day for a week. Trust me the only reason 6VDT fell as fast as it did was Molle’s complete inability to rally IT. N3 are hurting but as the saying goes, a hurt animal is far more dangerous than normal.

          • Woschdbrot

            I don’t underestimate them, I’m just saying this won’t improve n3’s position – it’ll hurt their pockets, their ability to fight and yes, it’ll hurt morale and thus numbers – everything else would be a lie or propaganda. I doubt that this will be the end of n3 – but it’ll hurt them. And their enemies – especially the ones in the south – will get stronger and stronger each day.

            I just hate that “we have only have minor assets there”-bullshit propaganda. It’s interesting to see how things develope and this war is faaaar from over – but the momentum is clearly on ruscfc’s side and n3 is pretty much on retreat – and their regrouping/retreat will be harrassed by their enemies as much as possible.

          • Subhuman

            It isn’t prop when even by reading the evac orders most “heavy” stuff )ie cap ships et al) were evacced to lowsec JUST because goons are a one trick pony. What is worse is the current goon prop of “Its all over for N#PL” blah blah.

          • Woschdbrot

            And I’m sure all of your capitals/supercapitals are in lowsec because you don’t want to use them down in 0.0 anyway? Come on, let’s be honest here – ofc there are a lot of dreads and carriers stashed away there. Or do you do convoys via gates, ship by ship? And trying to drop on grinding fleets with subcaps only? And I think I recall seeing “some” supers a few days ago trying to drop on solar 😉

            Both “we dont have no ships there” and the “n3 is dead” propagandas are bullshit, right? To play this 0.0 stuff you’ll always have to commit isks and big toys to make the mechanics less annoying. The funny thing however is that we’re currently going from “don’t undock in a ship you can’t afford to lose” to “don’t dock up a ship you can’t afford to lose” with the popular station deadzone tactics.

          • Subhuman

            Only works if you can keep your autistic shitthrowin F1 monkeys at the screen for a week. Still waiting to see if the current breed of goonites can achieve that.

          • Woschdbrot

            So I’m right? That’s what I thought – and yes, it remains to be seen if the other side can pull of to deadzone that station, I’m not sure either. Interesting weeks ahead of us.

          • Konrad

            Day 5 of the hellcamp underway and the CFC is still camping even after beating back a rescue fleet that was going to help N3 evac the stuff that isn´t there. N3 must have a lot of loose isk since they hired BL to come down to shoot a few bubbles since the stuff is in lo sec…or is it…

          • N3 WarHQ

            Everyone was told to move their heavy stuff to lowsec and not to 0-w. What most alliances have in 0-w are their combat assets and most off that can be moved in one carrier. It’s not like S2N has been living in 0-w for months and years.

          • Konrad

            Not much of an alliance then if all they have can be squeezed into 875 m3 cargo space, 10.000 m3 fleet hangar and a million m3 ship maintenace hangar. maybe it´s time for that alliance to die and make way for new and more hungry alliances to emerge.

          • TerribleName

            Even if the CFC only hellcamps N3 for a few days before getting bored and going home, which I wouldnt count on because goons are masochistic bastards who *love* grinding shit, thats still several days for RUSRUS to grind N3 Sov and devour another region or two. N3 may not have everything bottled up in one station, and they may be able to wait out the goons, but they *will* lose shit tons of space which will hurt.

          • i am under no delusion that N3 will get some of their assets out but don’t pretend that you don’t have the majority of your stuff in that system.

          • truth

            dont kid yourself and believe taht faggot mittens most people moved stuff to npc null except a few pvp ships

          • cool, that means we chased them out of null all together. Does not sound bad to me.

          • Chris

            By bluing 2/3rds of nullsec.

            I don’t know about you, but when I win with far superior numbers I feel dirty. I’m not crying about blobbing, its a part of the game. But the way it was done basically means you have little right to smug.

          • Really?

            Too bad for you
            Most of Eve do not feel the same!

          • Sieveboy

            You underestimate the CFC, we can spend hours doing nothing space pixel wise and shitting up coms and local.

        • Noisrevbus

          Which may not necessarily be untrue despite how things turned out.

          After all, getting assets trapped like that is most likely out of protocol for most alliances, and definately out of protocol for an alliance like PL who have a long habit of nomadic gameplay with forward staging posts and NPC-station backlines.

          It’s far more likely that what was stuck in B-R long-term were individual assets of some complacent members rather than strategic assets, and that taking the initial fight in B-R easily had as much to do with getting a fight from the stalemate and a confidence in “out-scrambling” the CFC as it had to do with assets being threatened of a deadzone.

          Makes no sense?

          What I am saying, essentially, is that the fight was due no matter what – while the evacuation as it occured most likely had to do with how what finally got trapped was a low amount of strategic assets and a fair amount of individual assets that were ransomed not to let individual players take the hit. Had there been more loaded capitals surviving and less subcapital spill it’s more likely that a later break-out would have been attempted rather than a subtle ransom.

          Then again, I could be wrong, and it would be interesting to learn some details of the ransom and deals that took place in that immidiate aftermath (ie., how much PL actually had trapped,how much they actually paid and so forth).

  • This week the rest of N3, next week we go after PL. I for one welcome Mittani as my new overlord and blue donuts just taste so good lol

  • Chris

    And the death of nullsec begins…

    • smg77

      What have you done to stop it?

  • kash

    game content!

  • Pai She

    So its been stated that you don’t want to ruin the FUN of the game, yet by destroying a large coalition that is N3 you wipe out all their rental corps which without living behind the banner of N3 would never get to experience nullsec for a majority of them.
    While I’m not against grand scale combat because apart from the horrible TIDI, its some of the best fighting in the game. But game mechanics prevent smaller corps / alliances from holding SOV and require the umbrella of larger coalitions / alliances like PL, N3, SOLAR etc to even experience living in null sec and helping out in whatever capacity they can to whatever warfront they sit on.
    Mittani states he doesn’t want to ruin the FUN in the game but I think he fails to take in the larger picture as he tries to be the best overlord of the EVE universe and forgets about the smaller entities in this game.
    But meh it is what it is and the freedom of EVE and the nature of man will always produce some form of Dictator that tries to make their claim in the universe and everyone else just rolls along with it.
    Well see all you smaller alliances back in low sec 🙂

    • Woschdbrot

      Renters are paying money to be excluded from everything that nullsec is – and they can always rent elsewhere. There’s a reason why they’re despised… they want to get the spoils of 0.0 all of us are fighting for on various levels.

      “experience 0.0” – had a healthy laugh about that in combination with renters.

      • Pai She

        While that is true for a group of carebear renters, there is a community in EVE that merely pay for the privilege of greater protection so they too can join in the war efforts, just in a smaller capacity than larger groups are capable fielding. You cannot put everyone in the same box.

        • Woschdbrot

          But the majority is. There might be exceptions – but I don’t see any point in being a renter if you want to commit anyways. The “only” thing 0.0 alliances are asking for space in return is fleet participation and fighting for your own space. And there are really fun groups around in 0.0 to have small scale fun, just look at provi.

    • Robo

      A rule to remember… Mittens talks either complete shite or at best half truths, learn this and you will be on the path to having eyes opened. Being able to think for your self rather than believe the drivel he spews forth is a simple but in short reserve quality, pittyful lack of this ability within cfc.
      Mittens gives 0 fucks about the game about his scrubs about eve community, any renters wether from Rus or N3, regardless he will take any of their renters so him and his inner circle as is CFCs purpose can rmt there hearts out as is quite obviously the intention through and through out.

      • so I should not believe what Mittani says and believe everything you say, totally makes sense.

        • Robo

          Your insurmountabley stupid. You can’t read, well more than a line it seems. Get your mom to read it to you like a before bed story or something… I don’t know o.O

          • dude your trolling is so bad it is just beyond words.

          • Robo

            How’s it my fault your crying already. Makes me sad you didn’t last longer 🙁

          • lol, the crying is from just how bad the trolling is. Are you reading straight from the trolling book? Every one of your posts is the same.

          • Robo

            Can’t help trolling in each post fella, you make it so easy, effortless, like taking candy from a baby.
            I mean if you knew what you were talking about, I’d respectfully refer to why your wrong and where your right, however when shown why and where your words are shit from ass, you still obliviously waffle on, so why bother treating such people as you as able bodies thinkers, when you fail to be able to do anything more than guzzle mittens diarrhoea.

          • when you are start saying intelligent and responsible things than you do tell me to.

          • Robo

            “when you are start saying intelligent and responsible things than you do tell me to”

            I mean wtf bro… O.o How can I take you in the slightest seriously… No trolling you is a must do im afraid, bend over please (puts plastic gloves on)

          • Like I said, I knew you would turn down a chance to have a real conversation.

          • Methylated Spirit

            You’re*

        • Chris

          No. But think for yourself. The standard goon, after being unable to win an argument by reciting what their overlord says, resort to insults because they cannot think for themselves.

          • tell that to Robo who always goes straight for insults. No one has proof for these claims they make. why should i believe what some nobody says without and evidence to back them up.

          • Robo

            Revert that trail of thought to what Mittens says then and you will begin to become slightly wise to what goes on around you o face palm.

          • anonymous

            “N3 declared that they exist to destroy us:”

            My question for you is do you believe that line?

          • no i don’t actually believe that was said. If they said that they care way too much about this game.

          • anonymous

            So what does it say about the person using that to convince their members to hellcamp someone?

          • all they really need to say is, this is a game and the people we want to kill are over that. It will be fun and make you feel good. That is really all the need to say.

          • anonymous

            But that is not what he said. This entire war he’s been using that as a reason for everything you do. It does not matter what he could say to you it is what he does say to you. At best they are half truths and the rest of the time they are out right lies that you create your narrative around.

          • Methylated Spirit

            Sounds like good content to me

          • i don’t think the average cfc grunt really cares about why we are fighting the war. We just like fighting. I have nothing against N3 I just enjoy pvp and that is why I am fighting them. Even if it is a lie, it does not stick with me. It just goes over my head because I like fighting.

          • for quite some time the S2N staging station in MTO was called “VFK by christmas”

          • lmao

            their line memebers have to other wise they would realize they are playing to fill mittens real life wallet

          • xxxxx

            You really believe that? Who has been drinking the kool aid again?

          • Dirk MacGirk

            bunch of knuckleheads. If you’re in a major alliance or coalitions, you’re all filling the wallets of dudes at the top. You think any of them are any different?

          • Methylated Spirit

            We all know this. But we care not a jot because he is a fun leader, with clear goals, who provides us with a shitload of stuff to do in Eve. A game we would be playing anyway, so why not help the biggest content provider in Eve pay his rl bills? You are just butthurt its not you. Or your mum.

          • Methylated Spirit

            Your mum does

          • Chris

            Eh, there are people on our side too who struggle to hold a decent debate.

          • Methylated Spirit

            Your mum for example

          • Methylated Spirit

            Just like your mum

          • Mariosd

            goons are busy winning the actual war u freaking spastic,while ur busy winning arguments on forums,and then they wonder why goons are winning eve ,mwhahaha moar tears

          • Chris

            I see no tears here.

            This gives me something to do when I’m away on a craptop or at work.

            Tell me more about how a 2 minute post loses the war

      • Really?

        so killing the CFC is good for the game.. but when you are actually the one getting shit on, it’s no longer fair, “Mittengs gives 0 fucks about the game”..

        Really, is that you and your friends only defense?

        That is all you guys have been reduce to, to the CFC don’t care about the game…
        But I’m sorry, I thought the point about playing a game was too win and have fun, when did that change?

        Sorry I remember, ever since B-R happened…

        • Chris

          I don’t mind that one side “wins eve”, It’s just a shame that is synonymous with eve being a boring place until the group that one eventually fractures.

          • Really?

            Then you are barking at the wrong tree pal..

            So you should be barking at CCP since it is the way that they built their game. It’s no one fault for taking advantage of mechanics.

            The only solution for being successful at holding sov in Eve Online is too have more numbers then your enemy.

            Numbers=Win!!!

          • Dirk MacGirk

            Yep. I’ve been on both sides of that equation. Don’t blame the people who herd big numbers together, because they are only playing the game CCP has put up. Numbers win in EVE. That is its design. And it’s also the base mentality of most people. Hide among the masses. Less risk. CCP needs to change it but they don’t have the balls to do it.

          • Chris

            That’s why instead of doing things you know will start killing the game, you set things up so you can keep your enemy just strong enough to feel confident to engage, but not strong enough to actually beat you.the CFC had N3PL in this position where they would be able to farm content later on.

            But if you think spending the rest of your days ganking miners while all of null is blue, is fun. Be my guest.

            Also, yes it is CCP’s fault. Many people have talked about how shit everything is and complained to CCP about it. But you can’t do much when CCP is being metagamed to favor the CFC, and has been for years. Progress doesn’t happen when one group holds the majority.

          • Really?

            LMAO… It is ultimately CCP responsibility to take care of the game, and try to make it fun for every1.

            The CFC are not the ones implementing the mechanics at the end of the day, they are players, at the end of the day they are playing the game the way CCP allow the game to be played.

            Get off your high horse m8 🙂

            There is no such thing as good fight!

            Beside you should have said that to N3 back when they were kicking the shit out of SOLAR, even though the war was already one.

            They did not try to “keep your enemy just strong enough to feet confident to engage, but not strong enough to actually beat you” nonsense you are talking about.

            Last time I remember they proceeded on doing the same thing that is being done onto them now, and no fucks where given

            ie: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/R3P0-Z

            hmmm…. wonder why the alliance name is “Deadzoned”

            and the corp name is “Life in Jail”

            and station is name “No evac allowed”

            ie: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Deadzoned

            Sounds like no fuck was given then, why should all the sudden their enemies should give a fuck now?..

            sorry m8, I think you are just butt hurt, and disillusioned.

            One thing you should remember “Do onto others as you would have them do unto you” – Golden rule right there m8!

            Fly safe and o7

          • Dirk MacGirk

            yeah it was funny as shit for them to put R3P0 into lockdown. Hahaha look what we did to Solar. Look how we use CCP’s game mechanics to enact destructable stations.

          • Robo

            Your narrow minded, cfc for years have cried and meta gamed nerfs to favour them selves, examples titans/ supers, cries for carrier (archon) sentries nerfs, funnily enough Mittens beating a drum long before for a Boot in every Hangar, and pot meets kettle enough… For everyone to train for archons/ supers/ titans now… I mean the guy is the optima of contradictory.
            Those are just a few examples of where your wrong.

            You have little realistic knowledge of anything to do with the Solar conflict, you read misplaced propaganda and believe you know what your talking about, sadly for any reader you don’t, or it wouldn’t be so painful.
            Solar alienated many of their allies by stabbing them in the back, not helping others, leaving them to get picked off or not communicating with their allies. Solar remains to this day streamlined greedy and selfish, they have never helped anyone if it did not benifit them selves first and foremost. They back stabbed xXdeathXx/RA and white noise, creating civil war, they never helped Soco when they asked for help, many other examples of the treachery of Solar, but that’s to name a few. They leached like vultures when Dotbros were at war vs cfc who already SIGNIFICANTLY outnumbered them, creating a 2nd front in which once again Solar and pets failed to capitalise on.
            N3s natural targets when newly formed were directed towards the cowardice of solar at that point.
            It was intended that Solar would be aloud to keep some of its space, but after a few hit and run attacks were solar killed a NCdot slowcat fleet months after the war was lost and Solars continual efforts to regrind sov, it was very clear that Solar lead by a stubborn donkey all know as Mactep, the only option left was to completely remove Solar from drones.
            N3/PL have had to regrind Space back from solar several times in drones since the Dronelands War concluded, ofc when all back have been turned.

          • Robo is actually right here. Throughout Solar’s history they have always avoided conflict with anyone and everyone. Everything they did, they did for themselves. They would not help their allies, Like White Noise, Soco, Atlas, and -A-. They would leave them out to die if it would hurt their space. They are like PL in the sense that they will never do anything that will not benefit themselves. They are an alliance that you want on your side, but not to be trusted.

          • Robo

            Agreed, logic and facts are friendly pals. I like the new intellectual you, keep it up +1

          • well i can assure you the conclusions we come up with through our logic will always be different but that is ok.

          • Really?

            So I was discussing Solar’s history in regards to how they treated others in the past with Robo?

          • i did not see your comment earlier but it is likely it had nothing to do with Solar. That is how Robo works.

          • Really?

            both you and BattoRem seems to be misunderstanding something here. I wonder if you guys even read what I wrote and even understand the context.

            My response is to Chris, talking about how Goons are killing the game, and that how instead they should allow n3 to grow strong enough instead and farm them for goodfights. (all the sudden ppl are worried about CFC well being, when months earlier ppl where begging for CFC to get kick in the teeth and goons be remove for deiklein).

            This is the post
            “That’s why instead of doing things you know will start killing the game, you set things up so you can keep your enemy just strong enough to feel confident to engage, but not strong enough to actually beat you.the CFC had N3PL in this position where they would be able to farm content later on.

            But if you think spending the rest of your days ganking miners while all of null is blue, is fun. Be my guest.

            Also, yes it is CCP’s fault. Many people have talked about how shit everything is and complained to CCP about it. But you can’t do much when CCP is being metagamed to favor the CFC, and has been for years. Progress doesn’t happen when one group holds the majority.”
            -Chris

            Now that their dreams are shattered, its all about content?

            If is was VFK, getting hell camp many of you would be happy and actually be talking about how this is good for the game because GOONS are the cancer of eve rite?

            Now all of the sudden, you and your pal (Batto) come in and start arguing about things that does even relate to my topic. Trying to shift gear into how Solar relationship with their former allies and the defense of DR. Where in my 1st post did you get the idea that I was talking bout how Solar acted throughout the game history?

            What does it have to do with the topic about being hellcamp?

            What does my argument have to do earlier about how SOLAR or treated their allies? Did I mention or implied anything about Solar and their allies in the post? Was I arguing about Solar and allies defense of DR anywhere in my post?

            Matter of fact I was In DRF during that time, I was there when GOONS were fighting the tribute war against NCDOT, NULLI, and BL. I was in those fleets helping SOLAR attacking NCDOT assets in Gemininate.

            Was there when Ncdot and Nulli decided to attack us in DR, getting us for payback because we did not help them. (makes no sense, we were never friends with ncdot).

            was there when PL, was just looking for gudfights, was there when our staging system keep on getting reinforce and we had to move our staging system deeper and deeper in DR.

            Was there until almost till the end, was there when we getting farm by PL, was there when Elo came in to help us (actually flew in his fleet a couple of times) until my alliance, kick the can and decided to leave (never agree with it, but whatever). So trust me I don’t need you or BattoRem to tell me some of my history.

            I basically responded with a counter argument proving what he is saying is utterly bull. I gave an example of how his side was invading DR, N3/PL did not seem to care about providing contents for their members in the future and there was also not in it for fair fights or gud fights. Finally proceeded to “hellcamp” Solar also and deadzone their assets even till this day. (hellcamping has been a valid tactic way b4 then from what I’ve been told)

            so wtf are you guys responding to, because I don’t seem to get the points that you guys are trying to make. My example involving Solar refer to how N3 themselves use the same tactic against Solar.
            I reread my post and still don’t see how I mention anything about complaining or crying about titans supers, carriers or was even good in the meta game.

            Except that they are “Ultimately” responsible for implementing game mechanics. That is CCP job and if they can’t do it. That is entirely their fault.

            But for your info, back then I did not hear anyone argue about N3 is killing the game m8s … As a matter of fact, ppl were hoping that with HBC being led by Test would work together with N3/PL in the north to attack the CFC. I believe this was also around the time when “asaikai” happened and that Goons were scared because they face a big threat.
            And many Eve were hoping for a war to kick off so that the CFC can be destroyed. (Let’s not forget the many VFK by whatever comments). Things actaully look bad for the CFC them at that moment.

            So once again WTF?
            Read my post and understand the context first, then proceed in giving a response in relevance to the topic at hand, or ask me for an explanation if you don’t understand.

          • Geth

            Judging by all that bullshit about Solar’s “backstabbing”, you have a little knowledge about that himself.
            xXDeathXx start conflict with Solar by adopting the fugitive Solar director, BigMaman, who stole 900bn alliance assets. Red Alliance entered the war itself, attacking Solar after xXDeathxx contracted NCDot/PL. White Noise was not an ally for Solar, and was non-factor in this conflict.

          • CVA Pilot

            did the CFC design this game ? I am thinking all this CCP is in the goons pocket yack is really crazy ??? I mean a game owner designer being held hostage by a in game identity seriously !!!!

          • Robo

            Incorrect, numbers at this magnitude=win.
            Where numbers are not so ridiculous, skill still matters. As N3/PL has proven, even being outnumbered greatly, adaption and tactics can still make cfc(martini) cry like babies. This is something many without skill would not know about, and I wouldn’t expect them to understand.

          • Robo

            Everything has a circle of life, even good things get old, roll over and die, making way for the next thing to come along, evolution is good.
            If you stop evolution then naturally things get Mundane, contentless, fake, bloated, it stops many elements that it interacts with from evolving in the best possible way also, choose your pick. Cfc is stopping this evolution.
            Are coalitions of this magnitude good for the game with the mechanics and ability eve has… Factually no, has the rest of null sec had to adapt to stay competitive, doing this by also creating a coalition… Yes, so as you can see, even this single example upon many is a drop in the water to how negatively cfc impacts on eve.

          • I would not say having massive coalition stopped natural selection in Null, it just changed it. Now instead of natural selection of alliances, it is natural selection of coalitions. Hopefully at some point, coalitions go away and it goes back to smaller powerblocks but that is unlikely, unless the CFC takes over all of Null.

          • Robo

            Ok let me make this extremely simple for you… Sigh! o
            The more competition (content) there is the better it is for evolution.
            If there is only 1 entity whom has no actual competition…Can. You. See. How. That. Is. Bad. For. Eve… (Lack of content)
            Really can’t be explained much simpler.

          • yes I know it is bad but I am just saying you should not be surprised that this is how Eve got. It is the end of the process. Eve has always been an arms race and massive coalitions is the end of that race.

          • Robo

            Many in eve want to have it carry on developing healthily for many years to come, to maybe see it where and when code is re-written and near faultless battles happen with thousands in system.
            However there has to be a point, where somebody puts a stop/ does something out of the ordinary to repel an out of the ordinary abomination.
            You could have said well that’s upto the players, I’d agree with that as a natural course of action within the game, but when free null entities are unable to do what is needed for eve, what’s the alternative?

          • CVA Pilot

            Robo what do you think would happen if PL;N3 had won the B-R battle ??? would they not be invading Goon territory going for the kill. How is this any different

          • Robo

            Evolution of cfc Dieing would be natural, and good for the game, with their death, space opens up, alliances for example NCdot/PL would not need to be bonded in coalition form any longer, more alliance or few alliances based wars could proceed, new faces, new alliances in eve, fresher, more content. Choose your pick, only positives comes from cfc downfall logically speaking, even for their own grunts believe it or not.

      • Dirk MacGirk

        Most alliance leader talk a bunch of shit to rally their troops because most of the troops don’t know any better. But does it matter? Does it matter if he speaks truth or lies? Only thing that matters is motivating people to get in fleets and secure the outcome. You can be the smartest guy in the game and think for yourself. But does it matter? Think for yourself and lose and then what? Gonna fall back on how you were thinking for yourself?

      • Sieveboy

        Please post evidence of RMT with CCP or a GM.

      • Britanicus99

        Honestly Robo, Your constant whinging about Mittens RMTing is getting as hard to swallow as his constant whinging about Molle and BoB.
        Do yourself a favor, bump the record player so as to knock the needle over a grove so you can be unstuck.

    • trollmonkey

      but your missing the qualifier mate… its not ruining the game for them.. whining about semantics and how its not good for others.. doesn’t change that its not ruining the game for them.

      • Robo

        That’s the thing, it actually does, but like a horse drawn to water, they are unable to interpret further than their own noses.

      • I do agree that it is not ruining the game for the CFC, once/If we kill everyone that is against us it will be kind of a boring game to play.

      • Old Bastard

        It isn’t? Who will be left to fight? Who will be left to challenge the great RMT lord and his empire of misogynistic, homophobic, cyber bullies chasing the holy grail of PvP, the gudfite? High sec has proven so boring now that you can barely get an ice interdiction to last more than a few minutes, you have to have RvB to defend your high sec POCOs and you cry a river of threadnaught when someone pays Marmite Collective to wardec you.

        If you win, who will you fight?

        BTW, quit shitting on renters, we are the ones paying your damn bills.

        • Lol

          A 60 odd page thread doesn’t even register as a threadnaught. As for crying, I didn’t see any. Pretty sure Goons don’t give a fuck about the highsec POCO fight.

    • CVA Pilot

      what difference does it make to who you pay your rent to be it goons, solar,-A- ,pl or n3 or one of many other alliances that have renter programs ????

    • Sieveboy

      Join The Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere and you too can enjoy sovereign null sec with the CFC. Note tell them I sent you please.

      • notarenter

        or you just join goonswarm and carebear all the day for no rent lolololol

        • Sieveboy

          Sure you can do that, send me an ingame mail and I can help you join Goonswarm

          • Konrad

            …and 500 mil…. 🙂

          • Sieveboy

            Pfft no need for isk to be sent to me…

  • The Observer

    …and this is why I live in w-space…

  • erratic1212

    What a dork. He declared war months ago and hasn’t done shit.

    How do you dec war when you’re already in one.

    Just more dork ass mittins spewing propaganda.

    • Methylated Spirit

      Hasn’t done shit. Yeah Mittens, when are you going to step up to the plate and do what Erratic wants you to do? Give in to his menstrual ravings, you dick. Mittens aint never made no content, not once.

      • erratic1212

        He spewed his “omg, we’re wardecing N3/PL, they better be scared, Omega fleet!!!”.

        Yea, blowing up 1 month old toons in retrievers is content alright.

        • Methylated Spirit

          And wrecking 79 titans isn’t

          • Robo

            79 titans cfc killed now bladdy ell, fiction is strife. Think you need to look at numbers again.

          • Terrible Name

            Remember when N3 controlled Immansea, Teneferis and Omist? And when they claimed to have the largest titan fleet in EVE and could take the CFC any time? Good times. Wonder what happened.

          • Robo

            Give it a few months and titans will be replaced and some more ontop. It will be a long time, since CFCs odds of winning a successful engagement like this tends to be 1 in every 100 fights. So as is natural many goons will die before this is over. Only now with misplaced hubris in their hearts 🙂

          • Terrible Name

            I thought the titans were replaced the next day? Or was that just N3 spin and posturing? So now its going to take them a few months to do it.
            Also, empirically the odds of goons winning an all out super fight seems to be about 1 in 2: Asakai was a loss and B-R was a victory. Not sure how you’re getting 1 in 100.

            Oh well, I’m sure N3 will rally a fleet and come break the goon hellcamp any second now, because of course they still have titans and got all their combat assets out of the station way before the camp started. And of course N3 is so much better that they can break the hellcamp whenever they want. They just choose not to, because being embarrassed in front of your renters while Russians grind away even more regions is all just part of the plan

          • CVA Pilot

            hahahah made me smile I am just loving this thread

        • CVA Pilot

          ya that whole hulkagedden thing is lame, now burn jita was fun as hell.

  • truth

    This “speech” is full of so many lies and bullshit that obama should be reading it.

    • Dirk MacGirk

      examples? I mean you may not like propaganda, but where were the “lies”? Or lies of any consequence anyway.

      • anonymous

        “N3 declared that they exist to destroy us”
        Well that one. You know the one your side has used all war as justification for just about everything you have done. It may be of a little consequence that your battle cry is based on a lie.

        • Chris

          Its actually probably the grr BoB foreverwar tbh.

        • Dirk MacGirk

          Like I said, a consequential lie. You think anyone cares about that? Made up or real it doesn’t matter. Both sides demonize each other and lie to their members. Ugh, horrible goons we must rail against them. Ugh, PL… Ugh NC., Ugh, BOB. Who cares. Most people want any reason to hellcamp dudes into a station for following the other guy

          • anonymous

            It was consequential enough for your leader to use it for the last 3 updates. Why does he feel the need to lie to you?

          • Dirk MacGirk

            OMG, dude who cares what Mittens says other than – we’re going to camp them in and lock up all their shit. gg
            Why are you worrying about words. Mittens words aren’t what is sitting outside this station for the next week. It’s a bunch of dudes who would have done it all without the words. He is what he is, whatever that is in a space game. But in the end, his words don’t matter much. He isn’t some great orator

          • anonymous

            Because your response to this “This “speech” is full of so many lies and bullshit that obama should be reading it.” was “examples? I mean you may not like propaganda, but where were the “lies”? Or lies of any consequence anyway.” So I gave you an example. His words matter an awful lot to a lot of people in the CFC who believe these lies and then constantly spew whatever Mittani says. So my question is why does he need to lie to you and why does the general membership of the CFC believe these lies?

          • Dirk MacGirk

            It was actually said dude. It was a comment made by PGL. It wasn’t in the Nulli constitution or anything, but it was said. And it makes for a good soundbite. Why must you think every goon or CFC member actually cares what Mittani says? Yeah, like everywhere, there are some ignorant peeps who don’t know any better. Guys who just don’t know what is going on in Eve outside of their solar system. We have them in the real world too. Actually they are the same people. But there are just as many if not more people who know what is hype and what is propaganda and really don’t care if Mittens says it or not. Yet we’re still happy to go out and play Eve and camp some dudes in. Oh wait, no, I’m a goon disciple. lol

          • anonymous

            It was actually not said read the post above this chain since the other person did not respond directly to me.

          • Someone call the church elders

            So in SOVEREIGN WARFARE the purpose of a team is destroy the other team, oh my, what an outrageous thing to say.

          • I honestly don’t believe the general membership believe it. Most of the people i have talked to, just want fight N3 because they are fun to fight and a worthy opponent to fight.

            The lie is more of a motivational tactic. It sets us apart from them. Most don’t buy into it but there are some that want to feel like they are apart of something greater than themselves so they agree with it because they know this is a game and it does not really matter.

          • Robo

            What mittens says, and what his grunts believe is a big part of the problem, lies and belief in lies is nothing more than pitiful for those following the lie ignorantly.

          • Billbo

            cry harder

          • Sieveboy

            Your tears are nourishing to my soul, but I forgot my bucket and I don’t know when an opportunity to harvest them will come again. Anyway we hell camp them, deadzone the station and kick Nulli to the curb. Not sure what lies are in dear leaders speech. I am open minded (not that you will believe me) point out these lies for me.

          • Terrible Name

            The problem is people like you don’t ‘get’ goons. They play the fucking Imperial March before Mittens delivers his speech. Goons revel in pretending to be an evil empire lead by Hitler. Its a massive joke for them. Goons dont take this game seriously, and they understand Mittens plays a self aggrandizing propaganda machine spinning narratives like a tornado and they love him for it. Mittens is basically playing Richard the 3rd in space. Enjoy the performance and stop being so super serious about it. You must think Stephen Colbert really is an ultra right talk show pundit too.

          • Robo

            Your implying goons are dumb fucks in short…

          • Terrible Name

            No, I’m implying goons have an appreciation for theater and are smart enough not to take a comedic role seriously.
            Apparently you’re the dumb fucker who can’t tell when someone is being over the top for the sake of drama and comedy and takes that shit seriously.
            When you go to a movie do you think they are all documentaries shot in real time? When you see a murder on TV do you call the police?
            They played the Imperial March before his speech for fucks sake. Goons know exactly whats going on, and they love it.

          • Sigh

            We will put The Mattani on the null throne and bring order to the galaxcy.

        • Bo

          How was that a lie? Prodivalegend actually said that when the fountain
          war was happening in an alliance update. I understand that you hate the
          goons but spouting nonsense is not the solution. You lost, admit and go
          do some faction warfare.

          (replied to the wrong post above)

          • anonymous

            I answered your other post above.

      • Bo

        How was that a lie? Prodivalegend actually said that when the fountain war was happening in an alliance update. I understand that you hate the goons but spouting nonsense is not the solution. You lost, admit and go do some faction warfare.

        • Dirk MacGirk

          I presume you were directing that at someone else. lol

        • anonymous

          He did not actually say that, what he said was: “I’d like to make something perfectly and unambiguously clear to everybody, so pay close attention to this part. The entire reason N3 as a coalition was formed was in anticipation of this war. This is literally our raison d’etre. Grinding Russians out of the east, setting up a rental empire, fucking around on deployments around the map — all of these things were simply preparatory steps on the path towards today’s events. If we can’t do this, we’re fucked in just about every sense imaginable. So pull out all the stops, put everything on the line, play all our cards, leave nothing for tomorrow; whatever trite adage you prefer, the bottom line is that this is the one war in which we simply cannot hold anything back.”

          Please point me to where it says our reason for existing is to kill the CFC. He says that everything we have done was anticipating that this war would happen and that if we lose this defensive war in fountain then we are fucked which turned out to be quite correct. Nowhere in that does he say our reason for existing is to counter attack and take all of CFC’s space.

          • Dirk MacGirk

            Wait, you don’t see it there? “The entire reason N3 as a coalition was formed was in anticipation of this war. This is literally our raison d’etre.”
            That is code for kill all CFC. He hates us. And hate isn’t nice. Mittani just wants us to stop the hate and apparently the hate is in this station down here.

          • anonymous

            Winning a defensive war is not the same as an offensive war. It is code for if we do not stop the CFC now they are going to be too powerful for us to stop them later. Unless your coalition bonds are that weak that losing an offensive war would completely destroy you as a coalition then only someone trying to twist what he said would take that to mean that he said our reason of existing is to destroy you. Everyone that has played this game for any amount of time knows that defensive wars are far easier than offensive wars for a whole variety of reasons.

    • Methylated Spirit

      Gave me an erection, ol’ Barack never managed that.

      • Poetic Stanziel

        Michelle has.

        • Zakn

          That was Reggie you idiot.

          • Poetic Stanziel

            Who is Reggie? Is that one of his kids you sick bastard?!

          • Methylated Spirit

            Reggie The Rasta Republican

        • edi

          do you mean beyonce? cause we all know obama hooked up with her..

      • truth

        well we all know mittens is a cock sucker after all

        • You’re no daisy…

          have the balls to post with your actual name gevlon. We can all play that game…see?

    • BS

      Yep mittani is good politician and good at brainwashing his pets/grunts.
      Thank god for NPC null CCP

      • truth

        if by good politician you mean selling them things they dont really need a crazy prices, killing innocent people, claiming prizes that do not belong to him or he even deserves, trying to go way beyond his power of office, etc then yes.

        • BS

          You’re replying about ‘killing innocent people’ to a dude who’s entire career is built around ‘killing innocent people’. Go back to hisec pubbie shitlord.

  • IIR4MBOII

    So the Mittani states he is not here to not ruin the game and to make the game better, i suppose what better way of improving the game than steam rolling regions because they have a sore vagina.

    The stream also states CFC members like FA and LI3 are having a hard time and struggling to join the war in the East, but surely we as the Fountain Core Residents *( Gang Bang Team and Sorry We`re In Your Space Eh) are providing more content and making wars in the east more difficult as they invade, we attack there home members and make the war a more difficlut prospect as they must protect assets on all sides.

    Although a real shame that more alliances have not taken this stance and still proceed to suck on the nipples of Mittani. Elo Knight stepping down due to the CFC issues on killing them show me only that each puppet Mittens touches turn shit!.

    So please bring more people to fountain to aid an alliance with 2.5k members against but a few and LI3 well they aren’t worth stating there numbers, ore people here to make isk before they move on to better alliances.

    CFC a hearty welcome from the SYRIA residents.

    • Methylated Spirit

      Moar tears woman!!!!!

      • IIR4MBOII

        tears of LI3 and FA i harvest

        • Ex FA grunt.

          You do realize when all this other shit is done they will bubble and camp every gate and station in Fountain core for weeks until either (a) you quit playing or (b) move your med clone after so many deaths. Enjoy it while you can. I have not logged in over 6 months so don’t say butt hurt FA or some other crap. You know what will happen in the end.

    • erratic1212

      Mitsuck is the biggest shit on this game there is. It would be so much better without him and his cry babie goonturds.

      Remember all the crying they did after they tried to crash the node and it backfired?

      • Hypocrisy runs deep

        Was it somewhat similar to the crying you’re doing right now?

    • Ex EVE palyer/Ex Fountain core

      In my opinion only way for CCP to save 00 is to put NPC stations in all regions. Those systems with NPC stations should be in jump range of low sec where possible or at least via cyno chain. That way there would be much more players in 00 who are not members of sov holding alliances. There would be more small scale PVP. Now somebody will say they can be camped. Yes they can but for how long? 2 days, week? Camping 23/7 is boring to death. Ask Fountain sov holders after SOT/PL how effective was camping of Fountain core residents.

      • IIR4MBOII

        agreed on all parts, SOV holders should be pushed every day by small alliances making there mark, they say NPC fountain is kind of broken as its an island in the middle of sov, but surely you can see how much fun is had and how small groups can form and strike from within.

        Yes they can camp you all day and night, but the moment they don’t they lose day after day. As a fountain resident and proud CFC basher, i promote all small groups grabbing there balls and heading out to the NPC areas like Pure blind, Fountain, Delve and any area you can sit and strike the sov pubbies.

        also you can see the impact we have made already, as MITTENS will send people to come to fountain and take back control of SOV they say they “own”. Control is defined as “the power to influence or direct people’s behaviour or the course of events” rest assured we are the ones who dictate when they rat, when they pvp and when they log in.

        you cannot get rid of us and you simply have to live with us there 24/7

        Welcome to Syria

        • Ex EVE palyer/Ex Fountain core

          Delve would be very hard for NPC residents because if I remember correctly Delve NPC systems aren’t in jump range from Empire. There should be NPC systems in Querious so they can make cyno chain.

        • Sigh

          cowards hide in npc space.

          • IIR4MBOII

            Someone mad because we take what you own and use your space for free lol

            No doubt an FA member crying here, so tell me how would a campaign look against us on your KB, i doubt it would be over 20% efficiency. Get stomped SOV pubbie

          • Dangerzone

            Cowards hide in 60k+ alliances.

        • CVA Pilot

          really Syria a place where thousand’s of real people are loosing there lives every day ,comparing there struggle to that of a video game is just way fked up

        • One of Sec’s Junkies

          Your cheerleading for small alliances is heartwarming, coming from a corp that used to part of the biggest alliance in the game…then got shat on. Where were your arguments for the little guys then?

          Bottom like ||R4MBO|| is that you had ZERO effect on the outcome of the war, obviously. So keep grasping for relevance and pretending to be the ‘little’ guy, when the reality is that you are nothing more than a shitty group of butthurt ex-big guys that lost their sov. Oh wait, you didn’t want that sov anyway…lol. This is why we’re leaving fountain.

          • IIR4MBOII

            We were yes a part of Test you know the guys that just pulled a immense move and relinquished CFC of yet another Super and Titan.
            But Hurt about SOV?? please check my history of corps, im sure you will agree Volta love Sov, although farming LI3 and FA plus there plexes stealing isk handover fist…. yeah i miss the bills.

            fly safe heart warmer

    • Sigh

      Very easy to brag how great a few you are against many while living in npc 00 that cannot be taken from you lol.
      They should not have any 00 npc stations at all then you would be fucked in a day by your sov holding enemies.

  • Jevous Encule

    This is not about The Game. This is about one guy that is in a position to achieve something that was not done since Eve became Online over 10 years ago. This is about winning it all!! If you think about it for a moment. Eve is probably the most complex MMO out there. One of the most harsh and un-predictable environment an organization leader can find himself into. If you put yourself in Mittens shows for a few moments. You have an opportunity to be the 1st (and probably only) to win it all…
    Would you take it?

    • Robo

      Would say he’s interested in owning it all, quite different from that, he’d actually play the game and interact with more than his inner circle if that was the case. No logically he intends in actions and words to secure longevity of rmt in a safe, secure way.

      • erratic1212

        Yep, RMT is the only game, and this is just more propaganda.

        How many hits do you think he’ll get to his web site over this?

      • Jevous Encule

        “In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then in that very moment I also love him. I think it’s impossible to really understand somebody, what they want, what they believe, and not love them the way they love themselves. And then, in that very moment when I love them…. I destroy them.”
        ― Orson Scott Card, Ender’s Game

        Don’t worry Robo. When all hope is lost, and you know that the end is coming. Just tell yourself: Mittani loves you Robo!

        • Robo

          If he ever played I’d just pick up more of his corpses… That is all 😉

          • CVA Pilot

            you would never even get close to him nobody would

      • Terrible Name

        Yes, Mittens the RMT lord, despite the fact that PL and N3 have always had bigger rental alliances than the CFC. Also, people love to cry about how much bigger the CFC is than N3/PL, so thats less income going to more people in the CFC. How is Mittens the king of RMT while Grath sits there with 2k members and the massive BoT rental alliance? Do you guys just not stop and think?

        • Britanicus99

          Only Mittens has gone public and stated that he could quit his lawyerin job to play eve. He did not say that TMC provides all his income.

    • Britanicus99

      Which Show is that? The all RMT, all the time show?

  • lyc

    you mean it wasent open war until now? O.o

  • hihihih

    Burn…Rape…R.I.P N3

  • Scrubz

    You spin me right round baby right round…

    Pathetic. If your (N3) coalition was built to “defend” against such a war then why was your coalition on the offense? Why did you posture yourself as “honorable third party for the gf”? Now that the “honorable third party” is being placed upon you NOW suddenly you’re a defensive coalition built for THIS kind of thing. Between this place and kugu there’s more methane gasses depleting the iceburgs due to global warming than all the dairies in the world.

    TLDR: You’re full of shit

    P.S. I love how Riverini acts like he’s privi to special intel that no one else has. Terrible

    • well the best defense is a good offense.

    • Robo

      I’m sure some of that drivel made sense in your head, suppose you should carry on rocking back and forth in your corner eh o.O

    • Winmatar

      I don’t even understand what you are trying to say.

    • Chris

      I like that stream of consciousness there.

    • Britanicus99

      You are living proof that 300 monkeys each with a typewriter will eventually rewrite War and Peace. After all you are just 1 monkey and you came up with this on just 1 typewriter and who knows how many hours.

  • Baws

    https://zkillboard.com/related/30000805/201402152300/

    Outnumbered Spartan Goons dunking on NC. scrubs like a baws (46 v 60). 5.8 billion ISK destroyed, 0.75 billion lost, 88% efficiency. See, even Goons can be l33tpvp when they want to. NC. and PL ain’t special.

    • DrkyDrky

      The result of hard real-simulation training under BL.

    • Chris

      Whomever thought taking eagles against tengus was retarded.

      Rail tengus literally do everything eagles can but better.

    • lol

      If it was 60 NC. in T3s you would not have engaged.. even if it was 46 vs. 46 T3s

    • Robo

      T3s vs eagles wow, congratulations cfc managed to grow balls this night and engage when have superior ship comp o/o slow clap…

      • Konrad

        When was the last time your fc sent half your fleet home because you outnumbered the enemy and the fight wuld not be fair? When was the last time your fc told you to reship into t1 destroyers because you had a better fleet composition? Spare us this shit please. Any military leader´s first rule is when you attack you must have numerical superiority!

  • DrkyDrky

    If you were in N3, what would be the best strategy to use for a temporary break-out attempt?
    Personally speaking, I think N3 leadership needs to do some extreme to force CFC to move its hell-camp force elsewhere temporarly.

    Here’s what I think may work in creating a temporary gap in CFC’s hell-camp:
    [1] For members stuck in 0-W, Jump-clone OUT of that station for now.
    [2] Gather everyone that is avaliable & remaining sub-cap assets at a NPC station system closest to VFK-IV.
    [3] Do a VFK Sov (Not station) head-shot attempt. If it’s done right, it may cause a sizable diversion from 0-W hell-camp to VFK defense.
    [4] This in turn may create a small window of opportunity for N3 pilots to jump-clone back in to 0-W and temporarly overwhelm the hellcamp fleet for them to GTFO.
    [5] Breakout OP success

    Can’t guarentee that this will suceed. But remember that N3 is in a desperate situation, this is probably only ONE of few possible solutions that are avaliable to them at the moment.

    • Terrible Name

      Goons would let VFK burn and reclaim it later. They already have all of their ships out and about, there are no masses of material stored back in VFK. No reason to abandon the siege. Plus, thats a lot of jumps through cyno jammed space. It wouldnt take many goons logging into a homeland defense alt and bringing in supers to easily shut it down and be back at the hellcamp before N3 could stage a break out.

      N3 is basically fucked unless someone comes to help them, and theyve burned most of the people who could muster the forces to do it. But hey, I hear N3 has dozens of titan alts with a dozen titans each and the losses from B-R were replaced the same day, so they should be able to muster a Titan fleet to break out any time now.

      • DrkyDrky

        Well, lets say that N3 does indeed take over VFK- for a day. It won’t do much strategically speaking, but that will give them the neccesary morale boost to compensate for getting pummeled in B-R & getting hellcamped @ 0-W.
        But then again, it’s not going to be easy for them to break through Fortress Deklein. However, given their currently situation, it’s either do something with a small chance of success or do nothing & get fucked.

      • DrkyDrky

        I think the only entity that can save N3 from this situation now is Bracku Legion. But after killing ~30 BL supers right before the Haloween war, idk whether or not BL will show their warm side to N3.

        • Addrake

          Our relationship with Nulli was soured when they freaked out about us (origin) voting to leave Nulli when we were giving it a trial go. Our relationsip with NC.dot pretty much is spiteful since ‘falcon-gate.’ Lets not even get into our relationship with PL.

          The only people we’ve worked with extensively over the years and have a truely good relationship with are SOLAR. Helping n3 at this point would screw with SOLAR’s work cleaning up the sov grind at the tail end of the war. There is little to no chance that you’ll be seeing us helping n3. We’ve gone down that road before (helping those various entities) and they tried to fuck us when they thought we weren’t necessary anymore.

          Say what you want about goons (and in turn mittens,) but they’re good employers (and even better enemies.) We’ve worked with them twice now on very liberal terms and they haven’t tried to fuck us, and have stayed true to the deals we made.

          • Robo

            Being blue to 3 quarters of null sec quite simply gives you les to shoot at than the opposite. O.o

          • Addrake

            And yet I’ve had no issue finding people to brawl with over the last Month, and I’ll have even more people to shoot at once goonswarm proper moves back to deklein. You should probably stick to the whole “mittens is a rmt master” narrative you’ve been trying to spin elsewhere. Tends to work better than trying to shame mercs for being mercs.

        • Robo

          Don’t know wether N3 would want their help after BL sold their soul to the devil and became cfc pets in the Halloween war, becoming part of the encompassing blue doughnut that revolves around 3 quarters of eve. Leaching on Titan KMs in B-R of much more value than killing 30 SCs.
          No don’t think any N3/PL entities would ever trust BL who have a ethos, greed and self centred stance much like Solars. They may be doing guerrilla style shit against C02 right now, but it’s not kidding anyone…

          • Britanicus99

            If Elo has truely fucked off, then it may be possible. But you could not find a coinference hall large enough to accomodate his ego, in order to make some kinda talks possible.

      • Britanicus99

        Your right, no one will come to “rescue N3” Not because they burned their bridges but because cfc has blued or pacified everyone else.

  • Lee Thrace

    Shit….

  • Brian C McKinley

    All I can hear is “”We have no interest in oppressing other people. We are not moved by hatred against any other nation. We bear no grudge. I know how grave a thing war is. I wanted to spare our people such an evil.” “Hitler” must be stopped.

  • N3

    The war ended a month ago. N3 for the last month have be playing on alts. There is going to be no further fights with N3 at all. You just have a lot of boring sov to grid before you fight Rus. The CFC has no choice but to fight Rus. Sure they can also fool there members for several months more pretending they are fighting n3 when just sov grinding. N3 is not part of PL. there is only CFC running nul sec now and little to no chance off any fleet fights for years to come and there is nothing at all the CFC can do to change it, except fight their own members… I wonder how long it will take the CFC grunts to realise what the situation is. Considering the low IQ required to join the CFC, probably a long time.

  • The Vet

    Trouble with N3 is their leadership the fc’s are the leadership, although great FC’s, they are poor leaders. They make mistake after mistake, Great FC’s do not make great alliance leaders ( I’m a nulli secunda guy) for the past 6 months i have cringed at some of the decisions and scratched my head to try and work out why

    • Robo

      Well that’s not completely true.

      • I just do not know

        I see you said not completely true, so you acknowledge issues. It is pretty evident that at the strategic level N3/PL were not in the same league as the CFC and boy does it show! When a long time friend told me that CFC were deploying to Fountain core and moving their cap fleet back I said to him, well that means the Russians will lose. It could be that this attack was always in the CFC plans or that they realised they had to do a bit more.
        I know what I would do as leader of N3 and it looks like they are doing it, though they have to ask themselves if the CFC really will just do this for a week, I think not…

        • Robo

          Depends, cfc leadership is uniformed towards a safe secure platform for rmting for their inner circle. Nullifying any threat early on to this safe platform.

          N3 leadership are more for the game, for their players benifit. No doubt there’s a few in any entity that rmts.
          However N3 create huge war chests for continual war, as it’s paramount that fights/war, content, fun lead the majority of decision making N3 makes, of course income is important to secure this style of play, but it’s not the priority. Why else would Dotbros have stood up against cfc oppression just as an example.

          • Javier Wilcox

            This fairy tale how often it is in N3 and how boring it is in CFC is getting old. Buy some new tinfoil

    • Pissed of N3 grunt

      Aye.
      The best defense is a better offense.
      The N3 leadership have done squat all. When the Russians failed to push in. N3 should hav pushed out and started taking their space. Right after HED-GP happened N3 could have gone for the throat of goons and their pets would have folded.

      Then the stupid ass botlrd accord which mittins made with PL. Of which PL should have told him to go fuck himself. Mittins made this silly accord when he saw that space that his pets held was in danger of being lost, so in order to save it and make sure their carriers are safe from being dropped on by PL. Though nice to see BL is dropping on goon carriers and wiping them out, while PL has turned to cowards by agreeing to the silly accord.

      The the huge ass fuck up of B-R…… bug my ass. It was a fuck up.

      Now mittins is in the stronger position, and is using the ‘hell camp’ of 0-W to get around the botlrd accord, in giving the Russians the chance to take the space that mittins is off limits to, because of botlrd.

      • CVA Pilot

        from where I sit the botlrd accord was one hell of a smart move by mitt ,who constantly is out maneuvering his opponent’s.. His boys get bogged down in fountain and poof huge sov drop he rallies and test is toast .BL gets there super fleet whelped and solar steps up and replaces them ( does that sound like something solar would do ?).A pissed off renter tries to scam PL goons scam the scammer and then gives the space back to PL thus building a better relationship with PL would any other leader from any other alliance done that?
        Theses are just a few of the things that mitts comes up with to keep goons on top of the heap .paying off BL during fountain war so goons can focus on the war and not worrying about his coalition partners loosing space. Face it at the leadership lv mitts is just better at eve than everybody else. His grunts love him his coalition partners trust him and he keeps winning . I wish my leadership was half as dedicated to our alliance and provi in general as mitts the rmt cancer of eve is to his people.

    • zef

      Gorga is not a FC and he is alliance and coalition leader… HOWEVER, he have been away for like a month or two now, leaving progod in charge.

  • Dreamer

    Honestly the best n3 can do is deploying a wreckingball On station and hope for the best . That way they got a chance Yes we get another b-r. Fight size. But according to nc they have 100+ titans. And nulli and the others must have Them Also. Throw caution in the wind. And tackle the foe headon. Do or die!

    • Chris

      If it happens, it would probably be a friday/saturday.

  • lol

    mmmm one big CFC/PL RMT BLUE DONUT!! LOVE THIS #*(&#$

    • BS

      Wish I had the knowledge and motivation to start RMT 🙁

    • erratic1212

      That’s what it’s all about. Feed someone a little RM and they fold.

      CFC can go back to care bearing or ganking retrievers in hisec.

      • Did

        The biggest truth in EvE unfortunately.

      • CarlGustav

        Well what are the alternative? This site filled with hate and sperglords And kugu? Its even worse. I do like to read on all sites and mittani is atleast the one with least Spearg

        • SPERG

          At least this site doesn’t ban people at the same rate.

          • dotec

            Maybe it would be better if it did.

      • Javafanatic

        I only come here to fill up on tears. it’s been like Thanksgiving, I’m so full I think I’ll go take a nap.

  • qwer

    Haha, I can’t understand how he can seriously be claiming that n3/pl has more systems than CFC+RUSRUS combined. It really doesn’t took more than 1s look at verite null sec map, or if you want to be sure, under one minute calculating in dotlan to call this complete bullshit.

    • Jevous Encule

      Also, last time I checked, I did not see any N3/PL held system half-way across the galaxy from where their home is. When I look at Goons, they now have a few systems completly on the other side of the map from where VFK is. Same thing with Razor. So…yeah! That part of is speech was some nice BS!

  • lol

    hey, remember BS fights? gonna be a while….

  • Revenge is sweet

    I remember this fags invade south (n3/test etc) now scared like little girl.

    FCK fags !!!

    • Robo

      1. Your retarded. I shall explain why:
      2. When did N3 invade the south.
      Do you mean after cfc/test/PL invaded and inadvertently disbanded Soco/-A- do you mean to say that after they lost everything, in the power vacuum N3 were not to take some space from a non existent alliance/coalition.
      Or do you mean when N3 assisted Test in Fountain hammering cfc until the huge sov drop that N3 had to retake, allowing cfc to, as was intended steamroll Test with their significant numerical advantage.
      Or are you referring to when N3 ‘allowed’ Rus to take sov back in south after fountain war, then to have Rus make an excuse that Nulli had broken the agreement by having a couple of hot Headed occasions of when a nulli fleet had GFs against Rus on stations they were taking.
      Further more for Rus to break agreement by allowing Solar a station right next to N3 space.
      According to you N3 invaded the south, wonder why N3 ‘let’ Rus retake it then…
      So a concise explanation of where your wrong, and funnily enough as you can see the trend is cfc invading Rus not N3… Well who would have known eh… Your the definition of a stupid fuck!

      • lol

        cry more

        • Robo

          Bahahaa when dumb meets dumber, introduce your self to ‘Revenge is Sweet’ o/o I’m doing my good deed for today…even mentally inept people meet chaps & chapettes just like them, cfc is a huge community for just that 😉

          • Roy Smokesalot

            You know whats fun? You call dude retarded, then lets go look up at the first line of your post where you use “Your” instead of “You’re”.
            Retard indeed.

          • Grammar Nazi mkII

            He would be a retard if he used “you’re”, but he didn’t. L2Engrish before trying to correct other people.

          • Roy Smokesalot

            When describing someone else replace “you’re” with “you are Your When talking about ownership of something replace “your” with “my”

            Examples:

            You’re:

            1. “You’re my best friend.”

            Test: “You are my best friend.”

            (Correct!)

            2. “I like you’re backpack.”

            Test: “I like you are backpack.”

            (Incorrect.)

            Your:

            1. “Your hair is so cool.”

            Test: “My hair is so cool.”

            (Correct!)

            2. “Your going to meet me at 6 p.m.”

            Test: “My going to meet me at 6 p.m.”

            (Incorrect.)

          • Ncdawt

            Means wrong using in grammar makes someone retarded? I don’t know what exactly is wrong with you, but you definately have a reality problem.

  • just some nulli dude

    The entire blue donut mobilized to camp us, an alliance 1/20th their size, into a station in a single system. However this turns out, I love what we’ve achieved.

    • erratic1212

      Yep, funny how all the suck in the game gathers to take out far lesser forces, cries like little girls when they get spanked, and think they’ve accomplished something when they win.

      It truly is pathetic.

      • CVA Pilot

        why are you reposting the same thing over and over again ? and why all the childish hate you make yourself sound like a little kid who`s momma took away his toys.

        • Gandalf

          Because he is right and he can?

      • lol

        What’s truly pathetic is how many times you spammed this identical post through this thread.

    • Mico Onebro Valerius Villena

      Lets face it… CFC did spanked the whole N3/PL in B-R5… N3/PL retreated… N3 got hellcamped end of the story

      • Ncdawt

        Nope, it was the full CFC(full deployment mode) and the whole rus/rus coalition. In short, it was the REST OF EVE VS. PL/N3. No dishonour in losing this war. In my opinion it was a matter of time until your mega coalition combine all the forces to smash us in a all in battle. I also think that the period of time we defeated this coaltion wasn’t a bad performance.

    • Konrad

      Maybe you should have recruited a bit more people then instead of crying about how unfair the numbers were. Your “leet” propaganda blinded you from realities.
      What you have achieved is that you are sitting in a systemthat is hellcamped, unable to do anything, and looking back at something that fell apart like the little piggy´s house that was built of straw. Somehow it reminds me of another guy sitting in his bunker underground in Berlin in 1945 looking back at his “achievments”. If you sow wind you reap the whirlwind.

  • Javier Wilcox

    They lost again. Why cant this bunch of disables just win? At least once???

    • Cabletown

      Do you have a learning disability? Numbers has always been the reason, in this particular war it was 25k versus 50k.

      • Javier Wilcox

        i thought you’re the l33t pew pew! Such disappointment.

        • Cabletown

          lol… not even in an alliance that is taking part in the war, just have math skills….. idk perhaps you would like to call them l33t math skills.

        • erratic1212

          CFC just blops the system so no one else can get in.

          Funny B-R5, N3/PL left enough for CFC to come in with significant forces, 2x to 1 and they blopped that system with 3 – 4x, obviously trying to crash the node.

          They are pathetic weasels and will never win an even fight, no matter who they go up against.

          • Javier Wilcox

            Dirty bastards!

          • I swear I am not Luwc

            quit eve if you cannot handle beeing blobbed.

            “TODAY I GOT KILLED BY THRASHER AND A FALCON. DIRTY BLOBBERS HAD 2x MORE THAN I DID AND ALL THAT ECM.

            OHMYGOD OHMYGOD.”

            ^Same Logic^

            Fuck off.

          • MDT

            The problems isnt numbers its shit FCs. Ive seen large fleets get welped by smaller ones countless times.

  • Luwc

    another one bites the dust.
    Why do people keep trying to fuck with us ?

    • erratic1212

      Here, I’ll repost this for you.

      Yep, funny how all the suck in the game gathers to take out far lesser forces, cries like little girls when they get spanked, and think they’ve accomplished something when they win.

      It truly is pathetic.

      • I swear I am not Luwc

        >welcome to eve.
        >your logic makes no sense.
        >Go play club pinguin if you want a fair game.

        edit : we always win.

    • that one douche

      Because of the coalition name… cluster fuck coalition. And the head alliance…. goonswarm… aka goons.

  • N3WHO?

    so N3 decalres there only reason to exist is to wipe out CFC , then when the naughty little boys get spanked they all start whining about how unfair it is, or how its ruining peoples game.
    The amount of tears i see in the comments sections are Hilarious, its allmost like reading MORDUS ANGELS meaningless smack in locals. GOD I LOVE THIS GAME

    • Gandalf

      You think Progod was speaking for the whole N3 bro?

      • Chief Gumbo Speaker

        Did anyone bother to contradict him?

  • dichzor

    see what happens when your allies are PL and NC. ?! DO YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS, nulli? See how relying on the kindness of strangers working out for you? You scrubs wont last a month. DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW WHAT KIND OF ALLIES PL AND NC. ARE? ahahahahaha *smug overload* *falls down unconscious*

  • Fail Propaganda is fail

    Not sure where the fuck you get your Infos from… But not even 10% of N3s cap Fleet is still located in 0-w..

    • Konrad

      So what? They will be hunted down wherever they are. Didn´t you read the text?

  • Mucho Grande

    My People truly? Is that what he see himself as? A king? A dictator? Haha I love it.

  • I swear I am not Luwc

    Always the same :

    > Hey lets fuck with the CFC
    > Lol we are winning
    >Lol they are only better because of *cry*BLOB *cry* CCP works for goons
    > Lol they are not winning fast enough
    > Lol VFK by…
    > Shit we are loosing
    > Shit we need help
    > Shit we lost.
    > Damage Control.
    > Try again
    > FW
    > … ?

  • Guest1282

    That’s the problem with a gaming system where numbers trump skill.