The following piece was originally at the GSF internal Forums

Remember when some pubbie sent Mittens an EVEmail about an unknown proposal. The one Mittens forwarded to the entire alliance to laugh at, which lead to many of you trying making fun of this well meaning sender?

This Mail
Fw: A moment of your time.
From: The Mittani
Sent: 2014.02.06 06:26
To: Goonswarm Federation,

A moment of your time.

From: Losgarr
Sent: 2014.02.06 04:13
To: The Mittani

I would like to ask you a question on the topic of Goons owning eve.

I have a proposition for you if your interested.

Please convo me or send me a mail.

Thank you for your time.

Well it turns out this fine lad wanted the CFC’s support for fighting PL. They were sad that PL raised their rent three times and after a disagreement Grath pleasantly told them to get the fuck out. After about 10 minutes of taking them seriously the red carpet was rolled out for me, an undercover middle man working on behalf of a shadow cartel of interested persons ready to take a stab at PL. While many thought this was a bad joke, some believed an opportunity existed. So I Scooter McCabe, 3rd year medical student from Johns Hopkins, was asked nicely to check up on them. I explained in order to verify their claims there would be several stipulations. First I had to audit them and be given roles in the executor corp. Second I would need them to gather their carriers in one station as a certain jumping off point. But what came next shocked me. They were prepared to surrender all SOV to the CFC as a sign of goodwill and contribution to the war effort.

Nothing Wrong If Your The Only Interested Party Involved


Channel ID: -56932320
Channel Name: Private Chat (alone)
Listener: Scooter McCabe
Session started: 2014.02.06 15:23:27

[ 2014.02.06 15:23:29 ] Losgarr > o/
[ 2014.02.06 15:23:51 ] Losgarr > Can I help you?
[ 2014.02.06 15:24:31 ] Scooter McCabe > Hi how are you?
[ 2014.02.06 15:24:40 ] Losgarr > Good, yourself?
[ 2014.02.06 15:25:06 ] Scooter McCabe > I’m good, I’m making some inquiries about a certain mail by certain interested parties.
[ 2014.02.06 15:25:27 ] Losgarr > I know of the mail.
[ 2014.02.06 15:25:34 ] Losgarr > Im just going to be strait foward
[ 2014.02.06 15:25:48 ] Scooter McCabe > Please do it would make my job easier.
[ 2014.02.06 15:26:00 ] Losgarr > I have nothing to hide and nothing to lose, just cutting all the tip toeing around out.
[ 2014.02.06 15:26:31 ] Losgarr > PL are Assholes and was wondering if Goons want to take advantage of an offer I have
[ 2014.02.06 15:27:28 ] Scooter McCabe > Go on.
[ 2014.02.06 15:27:36 ] Losgarr > Im no master spy or any of that shit. ~~
[ 2014.02.06 15:27:57 ] Losgarr > PL are kicking out all sov holding renters of oasa and cobalt
[ 2014.02.06 15:28:20 ] Losgarr > our rent went up 3x and its complete bullshit-
[ 2014.02.06 15:29:00 ] Losgarr > Our systems arnt under Botland argeement and We are going to try to hold our systems aslong as we can and maybe get some kills
[ 2014.02.06 15:29:25 ] Scooter McCabe > So where exactly would we come in.
[ 2014.02.06 15:29:26 ] Losgarr > we arnt a big corp/alliance so If pl want to take systems by force they will used unsupported caps to do it.
[ 2014.02.06 15:30:21 ] Scooter McCabe > Right and you want someone to counter drop them and fight alongside you.
[ 2014.02.06 15:30:44 ] Losgarr > Easy Kills and its 10 systems in the middle of oasa. We will fight either way. If you want easy cap kills, and or have an easy foot hold in the middle of their renters.
[ 2014.02.06 15:30:54 ] Losgarr > we will transfer sov if you want it
[ 2014.02.06 15:31:11 ] Scooter McCabe > So I have to ask what position do you hold to make all these promises.
[ 2014.02.06 15:32:12 ] Losgarr > PL want 30b by the end of the month, we will not pay this anyway.
[ 2014.02.06 15:32:26 ] Losgarr > So if they want their systems they will have to take them
[ 2014.02.06 15:33:00 ] Losgarr > Im the PVP Director for the alliance and we had a leadership meeting and decussed this already between us
[ 2014.02.06 15:33:30 ] Scooter McCabe > Okay, so you enter alliance is behind this course of action.
[ 2014.02.06 15:33:42 ] Losgarr > We are yes
[ 2014.02.06 15:33:59 ] Scooter McCabe > How far are you prepared to go.
[ 2014.02.06 15:35:22 ] Losgarr > We are fed up with PL’s shit. They broke all agreements we had under EMP, trippled our rent and forcing us to give up sov. This space is lost to us either way. We want to burn the fields
[ 2014.02.06 15:35:52 ] Losgarr > I can give you as much as we can give.
[ 2014.02.06 15:36:36 ] Scooter McCabe > Well I have to take an account of your entire alliance. Make sure there are as many as you say there are ready to fight.
[ 2014.02.06 15:36:44 ] Scooter McCabe > Not just a few passionate partisans.
[ 2014.02.06 15:38:04 ] Losgarr > We are not big. I can put together 20 domis and we have some caps mostly carriers. We cant handle this on our own. Not for long anyways. We are trying to grind will the end of the month~ March 1st~
[ 2014.02.06 15:39:01 ] Scooter McCabe > Well if we came and helped you, you probably wouldn’t lose your space. We currently have cap dominance. But our aid would certainly come with a number of stipulations.
[ 2014.02.06 15:40:20 ] Scooter McCabe > 1. We will assess your alliance before any aid is given. I will personally audit your entire alliance. 2. You would not act independently of us in military operations.3. You will have an acting advisor within your alliance directorate to keep
[ 2014.02.06 15:40:30 ] Scooter McCabe > to keep us abreast of whats going on inside the alliance.
[ 2014.02.06 15:40:55 ] Losgarr > Stipulations can come in time. If your interested just say so. We can go from there in more formal disscusions.
[ 2014.02.06 15:41:29 ] Scooter McCabe > Well the concern is you are just some water carrier for a PL political power play.
[ 2014.02.06 15:41:49 ] Scooter McCabe > With the sole goal of dissolving BOTLRD.
[ 2014.02.06 15:41:59 ] Scooter McCabe > Hence why you are dealing with me first.
[ 2014.02.06 15:42:15 ] Scooter McCabe > And why these stipulations are non negotiable and immediate.
[ 2014.02.06 15:43:02 ] Losgarr > I just ment, I dont like being formal in an eve convo. I can type shure but TS could be more usefull
[ 2014.02.06 15:43:55 ] Losgarr > I can give you evry detail you want much quicker
[ 2014.02.06 15:44:11 ] Scooter McCabe > I am more than happy to speak with you on TS, after you have met the stipulations.
[ 2014.02.06 15:44:26 ] Scooter McCabe > Because my gut tells me you are on an errand for PL.
[ 2014.02.06 15:45:15 ] Scooter McCabe > And my researchers tell me you are in fact covered under BOTLRD.
[ 2014.02.06 15:45:29 ] Scooter McCabe > So its honesty time.
[ 2014.02.06 15:45:33 ] Scooter McCabe > Once chance at this.
[ 2014.02.06 15:45:39 ] Scooter McCabe > One*
[ 2014.02.06 15:45:39 ] Losgarr > I will tell you Im not. But my word is not much to you. I will meet your stipulations
[ 2014.02.06 15:45:56 ] Losgarr > Sorry~ I cant time fast and it makes me look im being quiet
[ 2014.02.06 15:46:27 ] Losgarr > I myself have no contacts within PL
[ 2014.02.06 15:46:28 ] Scooter McCabe > Very well.
[ 2014.02.06 15:46:43 ] Losgarr > type fast*
[ 2014.02.06 15:46:48 ] Scooter McCabe > Its fine.
[ 2014.02.06 15:47:02 ] Scooter McCabe > I have years of practice writing medical journal entries.
[ 2014.02.06 15:47:15 ] Scooter McCabe > So I myself may be a little fast.
[ 2014.02.06 15:47:25 ] Losgarr > Im just starting my first year in buisness school. >.< [ 2014.02.06 15:48:02 ] Scooter McCabe > You have my sympathy, but the women getting MBAs were far better looking than my Med school program.
[ 2014.02.06 15:48:41 ] Losgarr > Lol, but med school im shure pays more
[ 2014.02.06 15:48:53 ] Scooter McCabe > After about 10 years yes.
[ 2014.02.06 15:49:04 ] Scooter McCabe > The loans are insane.
[ 2014.02.06 15:49:20 ] Losgarr > I could believe.
[ 2014.02.06 15:49:32 ] Scooter McCabe > And I still drive my 93 Mitisubshi VR4 3000GT
[ 2014.02.06 15:49:43 ] Scooter McCabe > not that i would give up my twin turbo
[ 2014.02.06 15:49:57 ] Scooter McCabe > just saying not all docs drive mercs
[ 2014.02.06 15:50:04 ] Scooter McCabe > but i digress
[ 2014.02.06 15:50:19 ] Scooter McCabe > so now on to the stipulations
[ 2014.02.06 15:50:32 ] Losgarr > Ready when you are.
[ 2014.02.06 15:51:03 ] Scooter McCabe > i would like to place an alt in your spesifc corp, set him up with director roles do my audit and schedule a meeting tonight when the rest of your leadership is on
[ 2014.02.06 15:52:01 ] Losgarr > Im shure that would be ok, Once we move all non-combat assets out and expence stuffs.
[ 2014.02.06 15:52:30 ] Scooter McCabe > im sure you can move things on your own
[ 2014.02.06 15:52:44 ] Losgarr > Witch we are doing as we speak
[ 2014.02.06 15:52:49 ] Scooter McCabe > good
[ 2014.02.06 15:53:06 ] Scooter McCabe > i will contact you with an alt shortly to apply and you can bring him in

How could I say no. Well actually I had to tread carefully at this point because of the parties involved. Namely not violating BOTLRD, causing World War III with PL, and having to answer a lot of questions from an enraged directorate. So I appraised two people of the situation, obviously Mittens and my CEO Roland Hova. Roland thought I was in the clear but said get the okay from Mittens to do this. The green light came and I had permission to torch away an entire alliance and damn them to obscurity and most likely Hi Sec.

So we were all set to transfer SOV and give me control of the executor corp at 10pm EST. That’s when tragedy struck, the shadow of Black OPs fell upon one their panic evacing jump freighters. So I had to spend then next 30 minutes on voice comms getting the marks to chill the fuck out. Which they did after promises of prompt compensation that were to never come. So I received control over 10 systems stations and all. Sadly the CEO had just paid rent so I was going to have to get my 30 billion I had projected from this scam another way.

So during this time PL was informed of what I was doing. And they were rather pleased we had no intention of keeping the SOV. So they wanted me to unanchor all the IHUBs and TCUs and for my trouble I’d pick up 4 billion. How could I say no?

So I had a little trouble finding the IHUBs until the mark politely gave me a list so I could start putting in CFC IHUBs. After a lifetime of flying around in a Velator and unanchoring all the things my bloody task was done. So now the time came to announce the charade was over. First I renamed J-D and W5- to some family friendly names. Then I announced over comms to the alliance CEO I had locked up all his stations and none of his members could get out, or get their caps out. I proposed a modest 30 billion ransom since he just paid SOV bills for me. The response included his claim that he needed to take his BP meds and lie down, and kicking me off TS with only the best message ever. Namely because I raised his hopes about some massive insurrection in PL, a SOV bill and a 30 billion ransom demand.

You were kicked from the server by “Brante Sletkia” (thanks for killing my eve)

The End Game Conversation

Channel ID: -56958646
Channel Name: Group Chat (Losgarr, Brante Sletkia)
Listener: CareBear Killer Jones
Session started: 2014.02.07 06:41:44
[ 2014.02.07 06:42:41 ] CareBear Killer Jones > brante i just got told to tell you not to forget the ihubs
[ 2014.02.07 06:46:36 ] Brante Sletkia > ihubs automatically are under you after tcu transfer
[ 2014.02.07 06:50:08 ] CareBear Killer Jones > so you want do this after 1 eve time tomorrow for the kick off
[ 2014.02.07 06:50:37 ] Brante Sletkia > sounds good
[ 2014.02.07 06:50:45 ] Brante Sletkia > 0100 tomorrow night
[ 2014.02.07 06:50:56 ] Brante Sletkia > errr…0200 i will be home and ready
[ 2014.02.07 06:51:03 ] Brante Sletkia > i get off work at 0100
[ 2014.02.07 07:04:37 ] CareBear Killer Jones > cool
[ 2014.02.07 07:04:43 ] CareBear Killer Jones > i have a late seminar anyways
[ 2014.02.07 07:08:50 ] Brante Sletkia > cool cool
[ 2014.02.07 07:10:36 ] Brante Sletkia > afk bio time
[ 2014.02.07 07:14:10 ] Brante Sletkia > back
[ 2014.02.07 07:14:25 ] CareBear Killer Jones > cool
[ 2014.02.07 07:15:02 ] CareBear Killer Jones > tomorrow PL will suddenly see CFC Sov in these systems and grath will shit a brick
[ 2014.02.07 07:16:48 ] Brante Sletkia > LMFAO
[ 2014.02.07 07:16:54 ] Brante Sletkia > id love to see the look on his face
[ 2014.02.07 07:17:55 ] CareBear Killer Jones > well im going to get some people to start moving ihubs in
[ 2014.02.07 07:18:07 ] Brante Sletkia > kk
[ 2014.02.07 07:18:23 ] CareBear Killer Jones > do you have a list of where the current ihubs are
[ 2014.02.07 07:18:28 ] Brante Sletkia > i do
[ 2014.02.07 07:18:36 ] CareBear Killer Jones > could you send them to me
[ 2014.02.07 07:19:11 ] bandit773 > 5JEZ-I 1J-D5U7 10JXQJ-B 2H-MHWF 11PND-SI 7SON-TW 1V-X0KM 1W5-VBR 1XXZ-3W 2Y-770C 1.
[ 2014.02.07 07:19:44 ] CareBear Killer Jones > k ill get that off to the “welcoming comittee”
[ 2014.02.07 07:20:19 ] Brante Sletkia > if starfire eden leaves alliance now…
[ 2014.02.07 07:20:28 ] Brante Sletkia > and joins them is that the soonest it can change over
[ 2014.02.07 07:20:34 ] Brante Sletkia > or can they do it sooner?
[ 2014.02.07 07:20:41 ] CareBear Killer Jones > sooner if we swap hubs
[ 2014.02.07 07:20:46 ] Brante Sletkia > ahhh
[ 2014.02.07 07:20:47 ] Brante Sletkia > nice
[ 2014.02.07 07:20:59 ] Brante Sletkia > unanchor pick up reanchor
[ 2014.02.07 07:21:08 ] CareBear Killer Jones > pretty much
[ 2014.02.07 07:22:23 ] Brante Sletkia > that bot exec is trying to convo rebekah
[ 2014.02.07 07:23:00 ] CareBear Killer Jones > um just logg off
[ 2014.02.07 07:23:07 ] CareBear Killer Jones > go dark
[ 2014.02.07 07:23:11 ] CareBear Killer Jones > like its bed time
[ 2014.02.07 07:23:26 ] Brante Sletkia > yep
[ 2014.02.07 07:23:55 ] CareBear Killer Jones > if they know its brantes alt i would probably go 100% dark
[ 2014.02.07 07:24:32 ] Brante Sletkia > not too many people know all my alts…
[ 2014.02.07 07:24:33 ] Brante Sletkia > lol
[ 2014.02.07 07:24:55 ] Brante Sletkia > i have 17 accounts in corp alone…
[ 2014.02.07 07:25:03 ] CareBear Killer Jones > okay
[ 2014.02.07 07:25:04 ] CareBear Killer Jones > wow
[ 2014.02.07 07:25:39 ] Brante Sletkia > only 2 i have outside of corp are brand new accounts last month still doing their training arcs in high sec
[ 2014.02.07 07:25:41 ] Brante Sletkia > lol
[ 2014.02.07 07:37:34 ] CareBear Killer Jones > ha
[ 2014.02.07 07:37:35 ] CareBear Killer Jones > nice
[ 2014.02.07 07:39:21 ] Brante Sletkia > uh something funny happen?
[ 2014.02.07 07:39:27 ] Brante Sletkia > lol
[ 2014.02.07 07:40:04 ] CareBear Killer Jones > apparently im not the only person talking to unhappy renters ready to strike back tonight
[ 2014.02.07 07:40:22 ] CareBear Killer Jones > so tomorrow there is going to be a full on revolt apparently
[ 2014.02.07 07:43:50 ] Brante Sletkia > lol
[ 2014.02.07 07:43:51 ] Brante Sletkia > nice
[ 2014.02.07 08:09:49 ] CareBear Killer Jones > hey you awake
[ 2014.02.07 08:09:58 ] CareBear Killer Jones > xxz is not under our control
[ 2014.02.07 09:51:35 ] CareBear Killer Jones > brante
[ 2014.02.07 09:51:45 ] Brante Sletkia > yeah
[ 2014.02.07 09:51:53 ] CareBear Killer Jones > contract time
[ 2014.02.07 09:52:20 ] Brante Sletkia > i need to go to bed my blood pressure is through the roog
[ 2014.02.07 09:52:32 ] Brante Sletkia > can we please do the contract tomorrow so i can speak to my members personally
[ 2014.02.07 09:52:46 ] CareBear Killer Jones > okay then im going to close up the station and your peeps will die outside and the invasion starts now
[ 2014.02.07 09:53:18 ] Brante Sletkia > can we please do the contract tomorrow
[ 2014.02.07 09:53:23 ] CareBear Killer Jones > no
[ 2014.02.07 09:53:28 ] Brante Sletkia > and i will give it to you?
[ 2014.02.07 09:53:41 ] CareBear Killer Jones > you contract this stuff now
[ 2014.02.07 09:53:43 ] Brante Sletkia > this is my final eve hurrah
[ 2014.02.07 09:53:49 ] Brante Sletkia > so i will give you all my stuff tomorrow
[ 2014.02.07 09:54:00 ] CareBear Killer Jones > Nope
[ 2014.02.07 09:54:01 ] Brante Sletkia > i just need to go to bed
[ 2014.02.07 09:54:01 ] CareBear Killer Jones > Now
[ 2014.02.07 09:54:11 ] CareBear Killer Jones > im closing off access to everyone
[ 2014.02.07 09:54:21 ] CareBear Killer Jones > and i have issued new shares that give me control of the corp
[ 2014.02.07 09:54:49 ] CareBear Killer Jones > and last but not least i will simply transfer the station to PL in about 7 hours
[ 2014.02.07 09:54:55 ] CareBear Killer Jones > so my bases are covered, how are yours
[ 2014.02.07 09:56:26 ] Brante Sletkia > ill be happy to contract you everything
[ 2014.02.07 09:56:36 ] Brante Sletkia > i need to take some medicine get this bp under control and lay down
[ 2014.02.07 09:56:37 ] CareBear Killer Jones > then do it now
[ 2014.02.07 09:56:40 ] Brante Sletkia > tomorrow
[ 2014.02.07 09:56:55 ] CareBear Killer Jones > Thats its your people are dead and your not getting shit out of this station
[ 2014.02.07 09:57:08 ] Brante Sletkia > ok
[ 2014.02.07 09:57:10 ] Brante Sletkia > thanks

As of right now he has not paid, and has to explain to his entire corp why the majority of their carriers, rorqs, jfs, combat ships, mining ships and whatever else they kept in three stations is forever locked away. He will probably quit EVE leaving an entire alliance rudderless. Last we spoke he feels he has no choice but to have his people come and rent space from us….

And that is what I did for my winter vacation. Special thanks to Roland Hova, The Mittani, TheAdj for his SOV knowlege, and Grath for being Grath.


  1. ISKDoubler

    Oh how cruel the world can be…

    February 7, 2014 at 17:57 Reply
  2. daniel

    seems to be an utterly stupid thing to do.

    February 7, 2014 at 17:58 Reply
  3. Solid

    Yawn, who knew being a douche bag was so much work?

    February 7, 2014 at 17:59 Reply
  4. Durk

    ZOMFG 😀

    February 7, 2014 at 18:03 Reply

    I never understood why people rent sov. It is expensive just to maintain the systems without paying additional money to some overseer that can kick you out at a moments notice. But seriously, if you accept an agreement to rent you should follow through on that commitment one way or the other. Reputation is everything in this game. I have no sympathy for someone willing to side with Goons and then getting burned for it, especially since Goons and PL have already announced an agreement after B-R.

    February 7, 2014 at 18:04 Reply
    1. fuckbluesec

      Some people just like sucking dick vOv

      February 7, 2014 at 18:08 Reply
    2. The Obvious

      It’s called renting, it’s more in alignment with mob payments. Major alliances ‘rent’ systems so that they don’t have to directly pay the sov bill but still control the space, and rent for the extra cash and control. It’s a prime example of how even when changes are made to help the medium to semi-large groups get a foot hold, the powers find a way to keep control.

      February 7, 2014 at 18:18 Reply
      1. Nerfs fucked my game

        When space is rented you know the games broken, sov mechanics should make it litterally impossible to be able to do but thats just another example of how screwed up the game is – fleet fights the game cant handle, botting made legal with moons and the blue odughnut mentality of CCP / Goons which means a select few print isk and stage fights while paying thier electric bill inreal life…..

        Eve is awesome lolz

        February 7, 2014 at 21:53 Reply
        1. Immaculate Machine

          Perfectly said.

          February 8, 2014 at 02:18 Reply
    3. Playos

      Meh, paying for safety isn’t exactly new… mittens paid for a year in a decent set of systems just to get a fleet of carriers out of a station.

      P.S. Botl0rd pre-dates B-R… might have missed another announcement, but nothing official seems to have been inked.

      February 8, 2014 at 08:53 Reply
  6. wow

    I’ve scammed before and stole stuff in eve. I can tell u that i would not do what this guy did. Maybe take a few ships, but to ruin the game entirely for so many players. Another thing smaller alliances have to worry about when moving to null sec. Either u choose to get shot in the face or get your shit stolen by the dude who smiles the most. On the other hand the CEO shouldn’t have trusted that guy so much.

    February 7, 2014 at 18:07 Reply
    1. NRDS FTW

      As long as they have their pod the game will never be ruined. They can always recover, from selling their locked assets, contracting, or joining up with a group that can dock there. The CEO was trying to lose all their stuffs anyways by refusing to pay rent or leave. Got exactly what would have happened, just with a lot less ship explosions/structure grinding.

      February 7, 2014 at 18:22 Reply
      1. wow

        ure right, they can grind and get those assets back or negotiate something with the station holder. Still not a cool situation.

        side note… whats gunna happen to eve now that Pl cant/wont attack the cfc and the cfc wont/cant attack PL. N3 will need pl’s help if they do try to invade the north (cap ship wise) which pl cant give since they can only bring like 5 carriers and a one full fleet. These alliances claim they are all about PVP but when it comes down to an all out war in eve they bow down to the goon wallet( Black legion). so much content could have been generated had BL not taken that deal with the goons. Am giving eve until fall, if nothing interesting happens. ill be smart bombing my shit in jita and then am out or try FW, haven’t tried that yet.

        February 7, 2014 at 23:06 Reply
        1. FW Best Warfare

          FW is where real solo and small gang warfare happens. OK ISK. Pick a good corp like Old Man Gang, Fweddit, or Justified Chaos, and you are set for some good times.

          February 7, 2014 at 23:10 Reply
          1. asdf

            I thought Fweddit abandoned the small-scale fights of FW in favor of fighting in soul-crushing 10% tidi lagfests in null while swallowing Mittens’ cum?

            February 7, 2014 at 23:41
        2. Playos

          Outside home regions they’ve got more freedom… N3 & Rus space isn’t home regions. They can bitchslap each other all they want.

          February 8, 2014 at 08:48 Reply
    2. Noisrevbus

      It doesn’t matter if you are a renter or a member of PL: Not towing excess resources and getting them trapped in a sov-station is 101. Everyone cackles up at times ;).

      February 7, 2014 at 22:10 Reply
  7. Arnold S

    The enemy of my enemy is a friend, eh?
    Being a douche and bragging about it here, you have my down-vote

    February 7, 2014 at 18:08 Reply
    1. orly?

      I have vast amounts of difficulty having sympathy here.

      February 7, 2014 at 18:45 Reply
    2. BL Best Legion

      You know, the only ones the Goons aren’t scamming is their renters, for obvious reasons. People under the impression that Goons can be trusted kind of deserve this. They should have gone to BL.

      February 7, 2014 at 23:06 Reply
  8. obvious is obvious

    Shows how trust worthy GSF is.

    February 7, 2014 at 18:20 Reply
    1. NRDS FTW

      Goons and trust really don’t belong in the same sentence unless “never” is in there somewhere.

      February 7, 2014 at 18:29 Reply
      1. BS

        Like: Goon will never impair your trust ?

        February 7, 2014 at 20:14 Reply
      2. Snargle

        You can deal with Goons and profit, just look at RvB. The trick is to not be a mouthbreathing mongloid, which this guy failed at miserably.

        February 9, 2014 at 00:33 Reply
    2. Homophobic John

      Grr Goons.

      February 7, 2014 at 18:29 Reply
    3. Snargle

      This guy sought out the Goons wanting to backstab the people that looked after his sorry ass for who knows how long before finally giving him the boot. Why the hell should ANYONE feel obligated to keep their word to this guy?

      February 9, 2014 at 00:32 Reply
  9. Homophobic John

    This alliance still exists?

    February 7, 2014 at 18:29 Reply
  10. Join us Now

    Razor is recruiting if any boys from Goons want to step it up a level.

    February 7, 2014 at 18:33 Reply
  11. orly?

    So – you got 4B (from PL) and did PL a big favor. Oh, you also got a big hassle and made an alliance full of enemies.

    Short view response… but possibly the only one available given agreements in place.

    February 7, 2014 at 18:46 Reply
  12. Billbo

    shit these guys are still around? thought the apoclyspe of the HBC wiped them out

    February 7, 2014 at 19:09 Reply
  13. NM

    Kicking him in the balls while he’s down. Classy act GSF, very classy.

    February 7, 2014 at 19:13 Reply
  14. BNI Genii

    BRAVE is always recruiting.

    February 7, 2014 at 19:22 Reply
  15. I just do not know

    What gets me is the naive stupidity of this CEO, trying to setup a conflict between the CFC and PL shows he had no understanding of the contact between these alliances. All the small medium sized alliances, look at this and understand it, now get the fuck out of rental space, go to NPC 0.0 or lowsec/hisec and then go back and operate in their space on your fucking terms, with mobile depots and carriers you can do it, stop being fucking sheep paying ISK to these cunts who laugh at you and treat you like shit.

    February 7, 2014 at 19:31 Reply
  16. BS

    Meh as much as I like dramas and scams, this is just bad dude. Like looking at retarded kid being beaten. You can do that but its not cunning, nor make you manly just a pussy. Don’t know why but I kinda fell for those scammed guys. Feel like you would hit my retarded brother if i had one…

    February 7, 2014 at 19:48 Reply
    1. Snargle

      Kinda says a lot about an alliance if a retarded kid was in charge.

      February 9, 2014 at 00:30 Reply
  17. bigbonedbobby

    i dont actually feel i like anyone in this story your all douchebags.

    February 7, 2014 at 19:55 Reply

    I stole a Scooter once.

    February 7, 2014 at 20:16 Reply
  19. nana

    CFC and PL bromance. Cushy deals and agreements. Say no more.

    February 7, 2014 at 20:30 Reply
    1. PX5

      Null is dead.

      February 7, 2014 at 23:41 Reply
    2. Snargle

      Normally I hate the fact that they work together, but I hate idiots, renters, and idiot renters more.

      February 9, 2014 at 00:29 Reply
  20. War Anyone?
    February 7, 2014 at 20:35 Reply
  21. PL

    Yet another CFC butt-talk. Nothing to see here.

    February 7, 2014 at 22:33 Reply
  22. Ask Google
    February 7, 2014 at 22:36 Reply
    1. Sair


      February 7, 2014 at 22:58 Reply
  23. Michael

    You’re second on my list to punch in the face right after shittens

    February 7, 2014 at 22:57 Reply
  24. Sair

    How long has “Never trust a goon” been a meme?

    Guy got what he deserves, but can’t help but feel sorry for all his followers.

    February 7, 2014 at 22:57 Reply
    1. Snargle

      It’s not like it’s hard to sneak an alt into the CFC or B0T or whoever ends up owning the region. Transfer assets to friend, smuggle shit out, done.

      Or the alliance as a whole could scrape together the 30 bil ransom. There are options.

      February 9, 2014 at 00:27 Reply
      1. Andrew Metzger

        or just sell it. I made 25% on a couple dozen nemesis left in period basis. the renters who wind up with rights will probably pay even more.

        February 10, 2014 at 04:46 Reply
  25. Michael

    Keep your guard up if you’re going to fanfest.

    February 7, 2014 at 23:04 Reply
    1. Homophobic John

      Making threats to someone over things they do in a video game makes you look like a shitty person.

      February 7, 2014 at 23:25 Reply
      1. Michael

        Really? Because it’s not a threat for one. Second someone who gets off hurting others deserves a lot more than a punch in the face. If you can’t see that then maybe you’ll be third on my list.

        February 8, 2014 at 00:30 Reply
        1. asdf

          So much butthurt. Obviously you were the idiot that decided trusting a Goon couldn’t possibly go wrong. But being that your alliance is a splinter group of Unclaimed., nobody should be surprised by your decision-making skills.

          February 8, 2014 at 04:54 Reply
          1. Michael

            Assume much?

            February 9, 2014 at 10:09
        2. Snargle

          The attraction of tears is rooted in the fact that manchildren get butthurt over something that happens in virtual reality.

          You got outplayed. Acknowledge it and move in. Concoct a scheme or negotiate a surrender that gets your shit freed up. Or don’t and just start over. Or quit! The possibilities are limited only by you, which is why you have exactly zero chance of doing anything awesome ever.

          February 9, 2014 at 00:26 Reply
          1. Michael

            I thought eve was supposed to have a smart player base. Guess you’ve proven that hypothesis wrong. First off my assets are no where near that station much less in that region. Second grow up your post seems like that on an addled teenager.

            February 9, 2014 at 10:14
          2. Snargle

            I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, bud. The only thing more hilarious than getting weepy over losing space pixels is getting weepy over someone else losing space pixels.

            February 9, 2014 at 16:41
          3. Michael

            You’re 3% retarded like Mace aren’t you?

            February 12, 2014 at 03:32
      2. Snargle

        There’s never been a physical altercation at a fanfest. Not once in 10+ years. I attribute this to 2 things:

        1. Fanfest is primarily attended by cool dudes who realize that EVE is a game, and that attacking someone for blowing up/scamming/locking down your internet spaceship pixels is something only a person with borderline mental health issues would do.

        2. The few mental patients who do manage to make it to fanfest realize they are vastly outnumbered and that if they broke the perfect 10 year streak they would get nine kinds of shit kicked out of them.

        February 9, 2014 at 00:18 Reply
        1. Britanicus99

          And who the fuck wants to go to an Icelandic jail?

          February 9, 2014 at 00:48 Reply
        2. best_burek

          We are all mental patients. Its just some of us can control the inner demons.. And about kicking shit out of someone…Nigger please, you nerds couldn’t kick the shit out of a plastic bag much less some crazy fuck that has adrenalin flowing through his body like it was going out of style.

          February 9, 2014 at 02:16 Reply
          1. Snargle
            February 9, 2014 at 08:02
          2. Michael


            February 9, 2014 at 10:16
  26. Aesis

    evenews24: copy and paste everything

    February 7, 2014 at 23:31 Reply
  27. PX5

    EVE is dead this proves it. Goons and PL working together to screw their own renters…….

    February 7, 2014 at 23:41 Reply
    1. blsh

      Seriously… you didn’t see this was coming 5 years ago?

      February 8, 2014 at 05:01 Reply
    2. Fix Sov

      Correction: The nullsec metagame is dead and has been dying since the release of Dominion. Sov is in dire need of a rework, coalitions so big they casually crash servers when they engage should not be possible/encouraged by game mechanics.

      All of that said, EVE remains a game that is what you make of it. If you tire of the machinations of PL and Goonswarm “controlling your game” there will always be opportunities at a smaller scale, such as w-space. I used to be a member of one of these coalitions, just a fish in the sea when me and a few of my friends moved to w-space. Now we’re a big fish in a small pond and have a hell of a lot more fun then we ever did blobbing it up.

      February 8, 2014 at 09:13 Reply
      1. asdf

        What I’ve been hearing from friends in w-space is that blobs are gradually starting to form. Soon the only escape from soul-crushing tidi lagfests will be fucking empire space.

        February 9, 2014 at 00:37 Reply
    3. Dirk MacGirk

      Goons didn’t screw their own renters. Even PL didn’t scam their renters in this case. These were renters of a now defunct alliance whose space, and inhabitants were given to PL in a form of Savannah slave trade. They apparently didn’t like the new master and plantation rules and plotted against him with dastardly opponents from north of the border. Goons merely took advantage of a dude whose vision was so clouded by space rage that he was willing to make a deal with the devil in order to unleash a slave rebellion against his new evil master. Scooter, and the Goons, didn’t work with PL on this, but apparently did inform them of the goings on. Don’t make more of this than what it is. A scam that came about because the Alliance Exec was spacetarded

      February 9, 2014 at 02:46 Reply
  28. Dirk MacGirk

    Tragic story. But who do you really blame? Scooter for taking advantage of this invitation? Why? Just because he is a Goon? Or do you place it where is truly belongs, with an overreaching Alliance Exec? This is one of the biggest examples of bad decision making I have ever seen in this game. Yeah, it’s not an important alliance in the grand scheme of the game, but it was important to it’s members, at least those who didn’t have some grand vision of contributing to a metagame well above their paygrade.

    Corp roles are based on trust. The first rule is you can barely trust the people you really think you can trust. The second is you certainly don’t place Director-level trust in the hands of someone you don’t even know. Corp and alliance CEOs have a fiduciary responsibility to their members. To help ensure your actions don’t fuck things up for your members. To paraphrase the Hippocratic Corpum – first, do no harm. Not only did this CEO and his leadership team breach their responsibility in that regards through an unadulterated act of stupidity, but it resulted in wrecking the game for every member of his alliance in the process. But, I guess there is a silver lining here: teachable moments do happen and this should be one of them for all aspiring CEOs out there.

    February 8, 2014 at 00:25 Reply
    1. lecorrecto

      Had all the makings of a fantastic story until “Yeah, I’m sleeping with PL, whoops” part. Like holy fuck spins a new twist on the whole B-R situation.
      This means Mittani scolded RZR, told them let PL go, they’re “blue” technically by incest.

      This means the entire null is in fact controlled by 2-3 players, all fights/wars are staged, arranged.

      Sorry, having a hard time putting this all into words, after 3 years playing, finally seeing the entire picture and what a farce it’s been. It’s enlightening, but sad at the same time.

      Congrats on you guys for being able to do this, pulled the wool over my eyes for 3 years. In the same, fuck ya all lol.

      February 8, 2014 at 02:09 Reply
  29. Immaculate Machine

    Scooter is going to be a doctor? What kind of doctor fucks with somebody after they say their blood pressure is going up? Maybe you should figure out another career path kid. This goes to show that null sec eve is controlled by two entities that use their members and renters to farm isk for RL profits. Don’t be fooled PL and CFC are in love. They will be together til the end. Now we have a watered down game controlled by a bunch of alpha nerds. It’s too bad. I love this game.

    February 8, 2014 at 01:49 Reply
    1. Snargle

      Because people who actually need to take bp medicine don’t actually say “Here, let me take my bp medicine.” It’s a ploy to try and garner sympathy. Read, and you will learn that every miner that gets ganked was always dandling his kid on his knee, or had to see a friend to the emergency room, or their elderly grandmother fell down the stairs, or yadda yadda yadda. People who actually have to deal with this shit in RL don’t bring it into the game.

      February 9, 2014 at 00:12 Reply
    2. Britanicus99

      He is no more a Doctor then I am Obama. Although this is also unprovable my older brother is a doctor and I recall that when he was a med student he didnt have time to take a shit nevermind get involved in the “eve” metagame.

      February 9, 2014 at 00:45 Reply
  30. boris

    I’m so disheartened reading this. It was a good scam, but admitting you slept with your sister, and not the pretty one either.
    Goons I knew would have never seeked blessings from the likes of PL. I spit on you!

    February 8, 2014 at 01:52 Reply
  31. Aonus_the_blaster_maniac

    sounds like an attempted scam that failed?.. from what i see here…

    1. they can get alts to join current region renters that have access to the station in a few days.
    2. you tried to make them pay and they didnt.
    3. you took something that was already going to be taken by PL.

    so in the end, scammer failed.

    thanks for posting failure.

    February 8, 2014 at 02:07 Reply
    1. Immaculate Machine

      And to top it all off looks like PL paid a goon to transfer sov. a month early. It’s too bad. Would be a lot funner to actually take them up on the offer and fight. But Botlord = marriage certificate.

      February 8, 2014 at 02:23 Reply
  32. lecorrecto

    This is the endgame. The final scene of the movie. You find out that in fact the main characters in the movie were working together. All the sparkle and excitement is gone, everything is staged. This is EVE.
    You can decide to continue the charade that there are different coalitions at war with eachother, pick a side and be an actor in these fake wars, or take control. (Or rage quit eve) Done being a puppet, speak up and take control. CCP won’t help you, they’re slave to the current puppet masters as well, have to have the initiative yourself.

    February 8, 2014 at 02:38 Reply
  33. waltari

    Just when i thought null situation cant get any worse, lawl

    February 8, 2014 at 08:18 Reply
  34. Johnno

    Goons are the scum of EVE and prolly this reflects on their RL aswell. A corrupt leader generates a corp band of shitbro’s. I really do not get it why ppl trust Goons.

    February 8, 2014 at 10:37 Reply
    1. Random CFC Grunt

      Because goons are trustworthy… just not for everyone…

      February 8, 2014 at 12:35 Reply
    2. Immaculate Machine

      Yep I’ve seen Mittens at bars here in Madison….he’s a total scumbag.

      February 8, 2014 at 19:50 Reply
      1. best_burek

        So, walk up to him and bitch slap him…

        February 9, 2014 at 02:02 Reply
  35. Trebron Znieh

    And that’s what is wrong with Eve and why it will never get more subscribers than it currently has.

    February 8, 2014 at 12:01 Reply
    1. 6YearNewb

      Well, now we know why PL FC’s are on their hands and knees begging for new players…

      February 8, 2014 at 16:50 Reply
  36. ><a1N

    Just remember The Mittani ok’d this LOL. There was nothing special about this, you simply lied and your lie was shown for all it’s worth. The true heroes are the people you ripped off.

    February 8, 2014 at 23:10 Reply
  37. observer

    hope this clown wont be going to any future fanfests as EVE could see the first out of game murder

    February 8, 2014 at 23:15 Reply
  38. ExGoon

    This story makes for sad reading, sad for the ordinary members of Ex Cinere Scriptor who really are pretty blameless. Sad also for the individual behind Scooter McCabe, for somebody to have lost their morale compass and clearly take delight in causing misery to others and then to proudly boast of his ‘achievement’, truly speaks volumes for that person. Cut the ‘it’s just a game’ bs.. there are real people paying the consequences here. Goon apologists do your worst.

    February 8, 2014 at 23:37 Reply
    1. Snargle

      Real people pay the consequences when they lose at poker, too. Hell, they lose real money in that case, and not just space pixels.

      Please continue to have difficulty differentiating between fantasy and reality, that disconnect is the source of the hilarity.

      February 9, 2014 at 00:07 Reply
      1. ExGoon

        No difficulty.. but you obviously buy into the stupidity that this is all a dream and consequences are therefore non-existent. Unfortunately it is an argument built on self-deceit and if you really believe that then you are a fool. EVE is exactly like poker, you play for accepted risks no dispute there. The difference here is you clearly take delight in watching other people who HAD nothing to do with the leadership lose everything. That delight is the problem I am referring too, its your problem not mine.

        February 9, 2014 at 05:03 Reply
        1. Snargle

          Not a dream; a game. Bawwing because your shitty alliance leader got your shit locked out is like blubbering because your partner in poker fell for a huge bluff: pointless. And for anyone else present seeing a grown man lose his shit over a game, hilarious.

          Protip: the adult reaction in this situation is to make a note to be more careful in the future and move on.

          February 9, 2014 at 08:13 Reply
          1. ExGoon

            You are jumping to conclusions, I am personally not effected by this, I am not, nor have ever been anything to do with any of these guys. My point, if you were educated enough to understand it, was about moral compass. Somebody, like you exemplify, who finds ‘hilarity’ in others misfortune has issues.

            Oh and using ‘cool’ words like ‘Protip’ identify you as a follower of memes, piece of advice: When debating try not to give away your inability to think for yourself.

            February 9, 2014 at 19:11
          2. Snargle

            Here, let me help you gain a sense of perspective:

            Losing your leg to a drunk driver? That’s misfortune.

            Getting diagnosed with cancer and losing your hair in chemo? Thats misfortune.

            Having a precious family heirloom stolen out of their apartment? That’s misfortune.

            Losing in a video game? Not misfortune.

            This is why tear hunting is a thing. If you can’t handle loss in a video game, you shouldn’t be playing that game to begin with.

            February 10, 2014 at 00:01
          3. ExGoon

            OK so to support your argument you present this? I could spend the next 10 minutes of my life tearing apart your absurd comment, but it would be pointless. Genetics were not kind to you in the intelligence department were they.

            February 10, 2014 at 00:13
          4. Snargle

            I accept your forfeit. Try harder next time 🙂

            February 10, 2014 at 00:23
          5. bob

            You’re a bit of a twat aren’t you?

            February 10, 2014 at 12:03
  39. Df32

    Very amusing tale of a fool and his goods being soon parted. Losgarr was a duplicitous little pig who got a traitors just reward. No, I’m not allied with any of the involved parties. If you don’t like your rent then move out, but have some class about it. Morals aside, he was a fool for expecting the CFC to welcome him. How could anybody trust him after this? The lieutenants of one of Ghengis Khan’s enemies betrayed their leader and expected a reward from him…didn’t end well for them either.

    February 8, 2014 at 23:39 Reply
  40. Brett

    Am I the only one disgusted that this guy is in medical school and he pretty much gave this dude a heart attack? for fake game money? and is proud of this?

    February 9, 2014 at 00:15 Reply
    1. Snargle

      You comment has inflamed my ulcer, you monster. And I was so horrified by it I fell off my chair and broke three legs. I hope your happy with yourself.

      You know this is true, because I said it to you on the Internet.

      February 9, 2014 at 00:35 Reply
      1. snarge a joke

        youre a stupid litttle bitch

        February 9, 2014 at 18:31 Reply
  41. RealWorldTroll

    I’m sorry did I read the article correctly? Third year med student? Yet you have horrible sentence structure. Please DO NOT SAVE ANYONE”S LIFE!. Seriously. If you can’t write a decent article don’t bother studying medicine.

    February 9, 2014 at 02:06 Reply
  42. best_burek

    When will people learn there is no honer amongst thieves.. This guy must have been living under a rock for the past years not to know that GSF and PL are butt buddies. It defiantly is a shit move on the goontards side, fucking all of the ECS members that have no knowledge of how “Ti-ti-di” their leaders are. On a side Note: The only way Scooter McCabe is associated with the medical profession is his visits to the drug clinics.

    February 9, 2014 at 02:06 Reply
  43. Andrew Metzger

    I don’t get it, why lie about what kind of car you drive? This spy shit must really get you guys off…

    February 9, 2014 at 14:37 Reply
  44. Kamar Raimo

    Oh my. So Losgarr was trying to sell something and the other party says “Sure I’m buying it if you sign your whole business over to me first.” and he actually goes for it?!

    A smart man would have said no to this ridiculous counter proposal and offered it to BL next.

    I hope all the smart people left this alliance or at least extracted their assets before their CEO could fuck things up so royally for them.

    February 9, 2014 at 18:03 Reply
  45. Sold

    “o7 ASH. You were terrible back-stabbing allies and you got what you deserve.” -Tribe-

    February 9, 2014 at 19:13 Reply
  46. bob

    Would have been more interesting if the CFC kept the sov but no the CFC don’t want to upset the apple cart as usual. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, stop having proxy wars just to create content and have a proper bloody war. PL exist basically because other use them to create content.

    February 10, 2014 at 11:59 Reply
  47. I swear I am not Luwc


    February 11, 2014 at 08:39 Reply
  48. ke$ha fan

    What a worthless sack of shit. Of course, he’s a goon, and that pretty much says everything you need to know about him. It’s amazing there are still people dumb enough to give a goon roles.

    February 12, 2014 at 00:23 Reply

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