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Earlier today a large fight occurred in the system of U0V6-T, Syndicate. The main participants in the battle were Brave Newbies and Usurper., who have been engaged in a war with each other for several weeks now.

A 300-strong BNI fleet of Feroxes and other ships gathered to defend the tower. Initially the fight was between them and Usurper, but they were then joined by Goonswarm and Fweddit, who were in battleships.

Another fleet, this time belonging to Psychotic Tendencies then showed up, they were in Navy Apocs and supported by some triage Archons. GSF and Fweddit then dropped dreadnoughts on to the Archons, managing to kill a couple before the rest jumped out.

More groups then joined the fray, until 60 billion isk worth of damage had been dealt. BNI managed to save their tower, but still took heavy losses like the rest of the parties involved. The battle report can be found here.

TISHU Gave their version of events:

“We had heard that a bni tower was coming out of RF and that The Cursed Few (TCF) and Usurpers were planning to drop to kill the tower. At the time we didn’t expect goons nor J4LP to be there for the fight, but it didn’t matter. We had let the Bni fleet engage the Usurper + TCF fleet originally, while we waited to drop our own Navpocs in about 50km off the fight with 2 triage. Before we had dropped, Goons and J4LP (Being on the side of usurpers) dropped their own handful of archons (4 total) and a Geddon support fleet to help Usurpers.

At this point, we had cyno’d in our Navpoc fleet (with IRED domis) approximately 45km off of the J4LP fleet. At this point it was fairly standard call primaries and secondaries while having our triage rep up any incoming damage. About 20 minutes into the fight or so, a hero dictor had bubbled our triage and goons had cyno’d in 6 Dreads, 4 moros a nag and a revelation about 35km off of our two triage. Unfortunately, neither of our first two triage survived.

At this point, we aligned out, and burned out of the Dread’s range, and decided that we were not going to leave this fight, and brought in two more triage and anchored a Mobile Cynosural Jammer right afterwards. Since we were in Navpocs, we switched to longer range ammo, and the domis had dropped bouncers and we were content killing things at range. About this time, most of the J4LP geddon fleet was dead, and same with the usurper ones, so we went in close to kill the two triage that J4LP and Goons still had on field.

After those two triage had died, we had bounced all our BSs to a wreck so we could warp in on what was left of the Brave Newbies ferox fleet, to start killing them. Upon landing, with our triage, we started doing countdowns to volly bni feroxes before they could recieve reps. During the fight with Bni towards the end, usurpers came back, and bombed what was left of the feroxes with what looked liked 2 bomber waves. I think I speak for most people in Tishu and IRED that saw that, when I say it was 1. Beautiful, and 2. It made our day.

That bomb wave basically cleared out the remaining BNI so we decided to go home, since there was nothing else to kill. But, on our way out, we jumped into D85 and a syj gang of about 20 Taloses were waiting for us, so we dropped another triage so we could kill them without losing any BSs, but Bni came back with about another 100 feroxes, so we dropped a 2nd triage just to be safe. The fight was going well, then Bni did what no one was expecting, and dropped 8 dreads on us, and a carrier. All of our BSs deagressed at this point, and jumped the gate if they could (only lost 1 navpoc from Tishu, not sure about IRED domi losses in this fight).

After these 8 dreads killed our two triage, we decided to escalate by dropping dreads of our own, while bringing back our BSs from KFR that managed to jump the gate to kill 2 of the Bni dreads as well as a carrier. After this, we stuck around waiting for our dreads to come out of siege and jump out before we left, while being harassed by shadow cartel ishtars. After our dreads got out, we could consider the fight won, and we left to go back home.

We can’t take all the credit for the carrier kills in U0. UHURT took a BS fleet there, while streaming it, and had brought 9 neut geddons, which played a big part in neuting out some of the J4LP and Goons Triage. I would also like to thank IRED for bringing 1/2 of the dreads we had used to escalate Bni.”

U0V Battlereport

D85 Battlereport

 

A Brave Newbies member posted his version of events on reddit:

“I knew the POS coming out of reinforce was going to be a bigh fight, but had no idea it would get this big.

I’ll start with, “the plan was different, and then is changed”. Carefully prepped Ospreys sat idly while the logi team scrambled to get into Furrox Scythes. We don’t fly that particular build a lot, so there was a flurry of activity to get into them and make little changes for some to get cap stable. Thanks to Blue Ice for putting up many ships on contracts.

Hurry, hurry, get ready turned into sitting in the station for a while, waiting for the content. I was told that my mother-in-law was stopping by in 2-3 hours. Any resistance shodl be mopped up by then I thought. We laughed about it in logi comms.

Finally, we bridge in. “Hardeners on! Broadcast for reps!”

I had turned my graphics to low, but had to keep brackets on, since I was the logi anchor. Immediately, we are fighting a huge battleship fleet. As in every fight, the first few primaries are nearly impossible to save as we land and get oriented. Soon, we can keep people alive.

Logi starts to get targeted and without a large tank, get popped. I realize that while I do have range from the fleet, I’ve put us toward the more dangerous set of enemies instead of away from them. Doh. We burn through our fleet and out the other side to the safety of range.

Kinda looked like this when I was doing it right: http://i.imgur.com/jBsBnRH.png

From that point we seemed to be doing well. More enemies came in and we started lose a Feroxes to high alphas. We also had to move around a bit to get away from the various fleets as they moved in. Trying to stay in rep range of the cyno ship, in range of the main fleet, and away from enemy fleets felt like a trigonometry problem. Sorry for my mistakes when we would be in the wrong spot.

After a bit, we seemed to hold the field. To logi, the FC targets are kind of like a background noise that you can ignore. At one point they got really worked up and there was cheering. We had just killed a carrier. I had no idea we were shooting one. ;p

Then there was a knock at the door. The mother-in-law had arrived. I told the logi team I had to go, put down my head phones, and walked away, expecting to find myself in a fresh clone when I returned. As planned, Noh Way & Hadrian took over the logi duties. I am grateful for their help.

We gave a tour of the house to her brother, visiting from Hong Kong, discussed art for a bit, and then said our goodbyes.

I sat back down and found my ship in the POS, the fleet fighting in another system. Wows. I listened to the fight over comms and went out to rep the POS with a small group of other Scythes. 43%, 44%, slowly getting it back over the line where it could be onlined and re-stronted.

I sadly watched as a glorious loot field sat UNLOOTED as a VERY MAD Ursurper pilot made bomb runs to pop the wrecks. Such heresy. Even more painful was to watch an Ursurper Noctis arrive and salvage the remaining wrecks. My Brave heart weeps.

They left and we got the POS north of 65% shields.

At some point, the remaining U0 pilots met up with the ragtag Motre fleet of survivors and started to make our way home. A very well executed bomb run by Ursurper [fixed] in Y-W halved the fleet, but we finally made our way home to Barleguet to dock up and start the sharing of war stories.”

 

Usurper’s version of events:

The Brave Newbies Inc. an alliance second only to GoonSwarm in size have been waging a war against Usurper. In Syndicate that has left thousands of ships (mostly BRAVE ships) relegated to the graveyard eagerly picked apart by salvage drones and Noctis alike.

On January 12th Hundreds more would join that graveyard as Usurper rallied its forces to take down a brave POS coming out of reinforce in the dead end system U0V6-T. As the Reinforce timer grew near word spread out across Syndicate like a wildfire. Usurper formed a 40 man battleship fleet and began attacking the POS. It wouldn’t take long for a BRAVE 125-man fleet to titan-bridge onto the battlefield. The Brave fleet composed of mostly Ferox, Scythes and Celestis. Being severely outnumbered the Usurper fleet held its ground and laid into the sea of Brave. Both sides traded wrecks back and forth until the Usurper Logi began to fall to the overwhelming numbers.

Once the tables had truly turned in BRAVE favor, a Battleship fleet of Federation Goonswarm Federation [CONDI] and I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth [J4LP] forces then bridged in, totaling 120-Men. BRAVE then bridged in yet more Ferox support from their titan in Barlequet. More Wrecks for the Graveyard; and in the midst of all this Psychotic Tendencies. [TISHU] jumped in several Triage Archons to support an Apocalypse Navy Issue fleet; they were there to back up BRAVE.

Further escalation would bring Six J4LP and CONDI dreadnoughts onto the field. This prompted a mad scramble by TISHU to end their siege cycles and jump out. Before they could two of their Archons would join the Graveyard. The sub-cap part of the fight would see many more ships fall on both sides to include most of the J4LP and CONDI battleships as they withdrew from the field.

By this time the battlefield looked like a hodgepodge of lasers, explosion, and Wrecks. Everyone having counted Usurper out due to their size had underestimated their wit. No one expected what came next. Under the shadow of the Fog OF War Usurper had slipped out of system to their home system next door and re-shipped to Bombers. The gaggle of BRAVE and TISHU still on the field were starting to exchange high fives as they entered what they assumed were the last stages of the battle. And then……

THE SKY LIT UP! and Usurper bombs laid waste to TISHU Sub-Caps and BRAVE. Over 25 Ferox, several logi, Celestis and countless BRAVE cannon fodder lay mangled amongst the wreckage.

TISHU’s began to retreat home and BRAVE as it typical of them decided to attack the very fleet who helped them in U0V6-T. A New BRAVE Ferox fleet caught them two jumps away from the battlefield on the D85 gate. TISHU escalated with triage Archons, and BRAVE for the first time since the WAR began responded to this with its own Capitals Eight Dreadnaughts to be exact. Never one to be one upped TISHU Cynoed in by more dreadnoughts; By this time Usurper had dispatched their bomber wing to the field and began carped bombing both enemy fleets taking many more BRAVE Ferox to the Graveyard. The Capitals saw two Brave Dreadnaughts fall and one TISHU Carrier.

The spillage of the fight over to D85 allowed BRAVE to Ninja Rep the POS in U0V6-T and re-stront it.

In the End the Report would see over 350+ ships fielded, the BRAVE side of the conflict Retain their “strategic” POS and should see the Usurper side of the Conflict Destroy over 3 times the amount of ISK and Ships belonging to the BRAVE enemy. Total ISK destroyed that night is upwards of 95+ Billion. Usurper invited Brave to continue this foolish conquest. They surely must think this is SOV Space. No structures to Grind here, Usurper is here to Stay.


Eve-kill Battle Report

We will update this article if we find any footage of the fight.

UHURT Stream of the footage : http://www.twitch.tv/sirsqueebles/c/3533240

I-RED/TISHU video:

  • troll

    UHURT livestreamed footage of said battle – http://www.twitch.tv/sirsqueebles/c/3533240 (scroll to 5:25 for battle)

  • arkady

    *sniff* These Brave Newbies grow up so fast.

  • Alison King

    Congrats keep giving it to them goons

  • GrouchyOldGamer

    Kudos to BNI, good show chaps.

  • Lawful-Insanity

    So cfc would rather fight them then n3. Ahhh. Lol. Thats hilarious. Cant win so go fight someone u can bear. Ahahaha

    • Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

      Not sure about that…. Brave always gives a good fight.

    • Firefox4312

      It’s more like J4LP would rather shoot bni and the syndi goons would rather help than deploy to curse. v0v.

  • Arik

    183 in brave’s fleet, not 300. Just saying.

  • CarebearStare

    I appreciate articles like this, where you hear all sides of the battle. Even if I think Usurper is retarded.

    • CFC FC

      They are retarded and they batphone whenever they can

  • oldgrandma

    Usurper side of it made me smile. I cannot wait till all their moons are gone.

  • Braldye

    love how Usurper’s battle report was so twisted in to anti BNI propaganda. lol

    • Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

      I hope someone makes USRUP burn for that…. The Brave guys totally rock and how dare USRUP talk smack about them.
      We of N3 respect Brave for their fighting spirit and wish them all the luck and many victories!!!

  • are duder

    the write ups on both evenews24 and TMC of this fight are so terrible, i cant beleive more people from usurper, goons/j4lp, didnt really know what was happening during the fight……

    usurper showed up shot bni pos, bni attacked them, usurper was working with goons/j4lp so oons came in after usurper started lossing the fight.
    a livestreamed Sirsqueebles fleet came in it looked like on the streem they were just warping to a random cyno and killing whatever was closest v0v.
    Tishu/Ired came in i think last to the fight and mostly sat at range, goons dropped dreads on tishu triage, so tishu jumped in 2 more at range.
    goons/j4lp and usurper combined for 5 or 6 triage carrier losses and however many subcaps ( didnt doublecheck i think it was somewhere between 15-25 ish bs/guards/t3’s )
    BNI losses for the evening were something like 2 dreads 1 carrier 60-70 Ferox and however much in cruiser and frigate support.
    Tishi/Ired losses on the evening were something like 4 archon 12 or so domi and 1 navpoc
    The StreamFleet lost something like 5.5 bil according to a spreadsheet their fc showed.

    I think all parties were isk efficient? i was not sure about the goon/j4lp fleets efficiency?

    goons and usurper seem to think everyone was working against them, which thye kind of where as it seems they were in a geographical sense in the middle of the fight with brave newbies being on one of the outsides trying to manage range, while the tishu/ired fleet was also using range on and with the streamfleet warping into probably the greatest possible spot during the fight they pretty much were getting hit from all sides.

    its funny how BNI understands what happened during that fight and so does the stream fleet and the tishu/ired fleet simply because after the fight they went and chatted with the other parties.. unlike EN24 AND TMC aswell as goons/usurper

    hope this was at least insightful.

  • General Lemming

    All these fights are irrelevant…… Darwins Lemmings will soon destroy all their forces. An evil is forming up and coming to a place near you soon.

  • those guys are dumb

    i like how in the video they are killing their own fleet member for the first 3minutes haha fail

    • Firefox4312

      Alt that was neutral DC’d from fleet. So was seen as a neutral neut geddon right on top of us. v0v

  • SyndicateWhelp

    Ironically The Cursed Few (Usurper mates and rather decent “wing it” Syndicate small fleet alliance), who are barely mentioned here, probably came out of this best by refusing to resort to caps, where everyone else escalated and lost a pile of nice kit.

    • Firefox4312

      Probably for the best.

  • #anotherbiitervet

    I’m amazed how everybody thinks Brave needs congratulations for blobbing.. They outnumber us up to 10:1 everyday and yet we still fight to protect our little pocket we made home. Yes i understand its a great way to show newbies (l like the word newbro’s though) content to learn the game. After all new capsuleers are important to keep this awesome game going. Everybody has a perspective on what happened and generally most of us get it wrong. Yes it was a 3 way but it started out with 40 uSurper vs 200. And we need to call them Brave lol. This fight has been long about uSurper vs Brave and everybody and his dog has joined the fray. At the end of the day we have been pounding them (almost 2.5k kills in 6 weeks) and we will continue doing so. Now that all the structure are gone (small pos’s) and poco’s that don’t shoot back. Now they will have to fight us head on. As for the UOV pos we dont want to kill it because we need them to come back, so we can kill all those newbies :) oops new bro’s. As for the fight it was great fun and i hope it happens again soon. As for the bomb run, (that wasnt the 1st good one) we will continue to do that ..why u ask … well we outnumbered. I’m glad to see Evenews and Mittani reporting the “irrelvant fights” :) Eve is a big place and its not all about CFC and PL. Its about the little guy (uSurper) prevailing over a 6000 plus alliance. We done BNI for making the Eve Universe think u winning this :)

    • erratic1212

      You forgot to add in the more than 50k from CFC.

    • Yo

      Not BNI’s fault that you don’t have any friends.

  • say my name

    lol so much damage control in usurper article

  • JD No7

    Batrep from Ineluctable’s angle::

    We and TCF got a call from Usurper asking for extra numbers to fight BNI. TCF managed to get up about 7-8 guys, we only managed 3 as was back end of Euro TZ.

    Loaded a couple of Bombers and a Battleship into each of our Carriers, jumped down, got in battleships and into system. BS / Guardian fleet formed, around 35 strong.

    Land on enemy POS and started laying down some DPS. We had eyes on an IRED fleet on titan so knew they woould be coming to join the fun, and Usurper had notified us
    that Goons would join the fray against BNI, so the stage was set.

    Brutix Cyno goes live and in comes BNI Ferox fleet, with Scythe and Celestis support. We volley a few off field before they get reps rolling, including the Brutix. FC calls to target
    Feroxes to try and reduce incoming DPS, but their reps are holding for the most part and we only manage a couple more before hitting a brick wall. Meanwhile, our guardians are struggling
    under mass damps and ECM drones. I request that the FC retargets Scythes and Celestis as their tanks are paper, and sure enough we start inflicting kills again. We hold as long as we can,
    losing 1-2 guardians, then FC calls for Goons to jump in.

    Goons set up and go to work, and BNI are caught in the middle. Cruisers are dropping like crazy and we start working on Feroxes again, which are now melting. We;ve lost several Guardians, but
    Goons seem to be drawing most of the fire.

    IRED / Psycotic then Cyno onto the field. We spot the Triage Archons and FC gives order to burn for them immediately. We get in range and start neuting, whilst continuing to hit BNI and testing
    Logi on Psycotic BSes. One of the Archons looks like it is getting into trouble so we focus fire. I htink it’s about this point when Goons drop Dreads, and the first Archon goes down quick.

    By this point Psycotic have turned their guns on us due to the Neuts / proximity, and our Logi finally goes splat. We hold for another couple of minutes then clear the field to a freindly POS.

    Shipless pilots reship and we re-engage, dropping 2 triage carriers of our own. At this point in comes the neurtral BS fleet at zero on us, so we primary them and they literally melt. Our Archons, though, take a severe pounding.

    We work through some more BNI, but our Triage are in serious trouble. They go down and we give a last blast at BNI before leaving field. At some point in all this Goons bail, having lost most of their BSes and several carriers.

    With no logi options left, we return in bombers. BNI are set up in a lovely blob, so we prepare a bombing run and finish off the whole lot in a double wave bombing run. With everyone else being
    in BSes, we leave the field to pursue a neutral Talos fleet.

    We get involved in the fight between BNI / Psycotic in D85 but only in a few bombers so have little effect on the outcome. By 330am local / EVE time, it;s time to load the carriers adn head home.

    Awesome fight, props to everyone involved for going balls to the wall.

    JD No7

  • Michael Pusateri

    I’ve the Brave pilot that wrote the AAR.

    Looks like someone lit the drama cyno. No need for that.

    It’s pretty simple. Brave needs moon goo to pay for ships and lots of fights to keep the natives from getting restless. Longer term, we need null sec experience and confidence.

    Usurper simply happens to be nearby and has some moons we want. They are good people, bringing good fights. Not a lot of shit talking on either side. The fights are fun, big or small. We fought again last night and even saw some Fweddit bombers making a guest appearance.

    Battles like the U0 fight last Saturday is what Eve should be all about. Multiple sides, swings of momentum, the cloud of war, surprises, and tons of glorious loot.

    Personally, I had no idea there so many groups there until after the fight was over. It’s interesting to read the various Rashomon-like accounts of the event.

    7o

    • erratic1212

      Looks like you need to take some goon space.

      Better yet, take all of it.

    • Brave Spy

      Finally a brave that makes sense … we here for the fun … btw there aint no good moons in Syndicate

    • Krystyn

      I’m pissed I missed the fight, had to settle for the earlier fight in 98q the day prior. However, mega props for the Roshomon reference

  • LexArson

    the usurpers batrep is the dumbest shit ever

    watch the video linked from IRED/TISHU perspective, it disproves half of the usurper’s BR.

    • #anotherbitter….uSurper Vet

      So we didnt have a 40 man fleet bs+logi … and goons didnt come in to help us…. and we didnt lose most of our fleet.. and we didnt reship into bombers and we didnt wipe out the brave fleet… ok i clearly wasnt there and didnt die within in 5 mins…. and there wasnt a 3 way … but then again this fight was between uSurper + friends vs Brave but u kinda pissed cause we live in your space and u dont have your r64 no more…. This war is about content between uSurper + Brave not whoring on km’s like u guys… didnt have to be a 3 way but u did get in the way ….So how about not make the Eve universe think this fight was about ired/tishu and u made this happen lol

  • usurper propaganda so bad

    usurper is so retarded lol, they had a combined 70-80 man fleet AND their allies in the fight Goons/J4LP brought another 120 to their aid, they were the largest side in the fight and got stomped. bni only had 150 ish the streamfleet had 60 and tishu/ired had 50 or so. it was a 4way
    where usurper had the largest force and they lost 5 combined capitals and a mass amount of subcaps for some ferox kills.

    tishu/ired lost 2 archons but never left field, bni lost many many ferox but never left field, usurper left field twice in their bs and came back in bombers. goons/j4lp left field after their triage broke down. the streamfleet all died. bni left field after a usurper bombing run at the end and then tishu/ired warped off when there was nothing left to shoot or loot.

    • erratic1212

      Goontards. Need I say more?

    • RAW0540

      Usurper had just over 40 in fleet other stuff written who gives a S*#T! lol fight was awesome GF to all

    • Brave Spy

      Brave has the propaganda machine not us….we just like to fight …. look at the video small blob = uSurper big blob = Brave and check the killboards … we lost ships and brave lost alot more …this is fact not propoganda !!

  • JD No7

    Usurper had a 40 man fleet. Not sure on Goons numbers. Pretty sure the fight was an epic mess for everyone involved. Was fun though!

  • http://www.gothcandy.com/ Alice Bevan-McGregor

    I’ve heard of colouring the facts to suit your side before, but the accuracy of some of these reports is highly dubious.