The last few days have seen RUS/CFC blocks fail by hours and sometimes minutes to capture systems in their latest offensive. After the defeats detailed in my previous two articles the Russians decided to hit the systems of XVV and DY- near the N3 staging systems of GXK and I-N.

These two systems saw RUS/CFC blocks forming up huge fleets out of their prime time with many Russians alarm clocking for the chance to stick it to N3. The attacks on these systems appeared to go well and N3 was forced to stand down twice due to overwhelming subcapital numbers from RUS/CFC. Without a station to safely position their slowcats it seemed N3 was not willing to defend these systems.

With IHUBs and TCUs on-lining and RUS/CFC blocks claiming victory N3 hit back with a clutch defence forming up 114 capital ships including 44 Nyx and 28 Aeons to destroy the on-lining RUS sovereignty structures. With N3 anchoring their own TCU it appears they considered a counter attack likely and formed up a 166 man fleet of predominately Slowcat Archons to sit on the onlining TCU in DY- daring CFC to engage. The CFC chose to attack the undefended G15Z ihub then stood down despite having around 650 subcapitals formed into fleets apparently unwilling to engage the outnumbered N3 slowcat fleet and not wanting to escalate without the support of RUS block.

G15Z would become a flashpoint early in the morning of Dec 2nd as N3 attempted to clear RUS/CFC sov structures. Over 70dreads were destroyed by N3PL for the loss of a Pandemic Legion Avatar and an N3 Nyx and Hel. Despite the heavy losses on both sides N3 were successful again in defending the system at the last minute.

The Mittani was quick to display his mission accomplished banner banking on the minor victory of denying N3 the use of these systems for use in their jumpbridge network which is largely unused for strategic operations due to N3 titans located in the nearby staging systems of GXK and I-N. The Mittani pinged the following message to his loyal followers:

Β Message: VICTORY: This N3 bridge map is now pretty out of date – – because XVV, DY-P7, and now G15Z are snapped in the last 24 hours.

The obvious question on everyones lips is what does this latest bout of spaceship violence tell us about how the conflict is going. Short term it is likely CFC/RUS will struggle to escalate fights for the next few days as their allies Black Legion suffered the majority of the dread losses and have a historically poor SRP program. Recent evemails show individual Black Legion pilots are having to go to empire to find replacement dreads at market prices and have these moved down to 0.0 however the bill for these hulls is being footed by the alliance.

From: muhadin
Sent: 2013-12-02 21:09:00
To: (mailing list)

I will be doing a move op for wherever you buy a new dread at in reasonable locations.

0400 MOVE OP from ANYWHERE you bought a new dread to SENDAYA

If you haven’t bought a new dread yet you should get one soon, i may do 1 or 2 more of these move ops.

Note: Also don’t overpay if contract prices on hulls are high, no more than 2.5b for nag hull.

This will likely cause a short delay over more direct reimbursement methods such as those used by Pandemic Legion to reimburse bushy2 who was spotted in a new Avatar less than 12 hours after his loss.

In the long term the outcome of this war is still unclear, although N3 have made a good play over these systems they have been consistently outnumbered on recent timers so it remains to be seen if they can consistently push their capital and supercapital advantage and turn the defence of these early pushes into a victory.


  1. LaLoLa

    Lol N3 propaganda much? Kinda fun readign one side or the other

    December 3, 2013 at 12:02 Reply
    1. randomn3

      at least this ones accurate.

      December 3, 2013 at 12:13 Reply
  2. AciD

    War of propaganda ay both side. Boring.

    December 3, 2013 at 12:02 Reply
  3. Endie

    Thanks for this: it’s always handy to know what the official N3 line is on any conflict and en24 reliably provides that.

    December 3, 2013 at 12:11 Reply
    1. Dumbledore

      Well put, sir.

      December 3, 2013 at 13:36 Reply
      1. Gothic

        Sometimes you post brilliantly, and sometimes you just gobble goon cock. I think you know which category you can file this one under.

        December 3, 2013 at 17:03 Reply
        1. Simon pieman

          If you honestly think this site isn’t as slanted towards N3 as TMC is towards goons you are a fucking moron.

          December 3, 2013 at 19:55 Reply
        2. Dumbledore

          Oh but I agree with Endie. I also agree with Ugly Eric above and N3 guys above when they say the same as Endie says. I guess that makes me a triple-crossing giant cocksucking wizard.

          December 3, 2013 at 23:30 Reply
    2. Lionel Joseph

      Well princess if you want the CFC side the go to the Mittani’s site. This is barely propaganda if that’s what your getting at, and we know you are you little devil you.

      December 3, 2013 at 13:40 Reply
    3. Gothic

      The difference dear Endie, at least in this case, is that this piece
      is fact filled and informative with very few opinions. Whereas
      Mittani’s post and subsequent jabber pinging was so filled with spin my
      eyes started to glaze over. Obviously propaganda is the meta you folks
      love to play, but in the future it might be prudent to apply your spin
      in a less overbearing and obvious manner or you risk turning off your
      readers before you can even begin to push your bias upon them. Less is
      more basically.

      EN24 seems to be learning from past mistakes
      lately and the content is greatly improved for their efforts. While TMC
      is going the opposite direction, there is literally no one who would
      consider your site as a neutral source. Which means your propaganda will
      never stand a chance of reaching half the playerbase of Eve. A very
      counterproductive strategy for yourselves, but by all means carry on.

      December 3, 2013 at 17:00 Reply
      1. Endie

        “your site”? I have nothing to do with TMC nor have I done for something like 15 months. I admire them for their decision to have writers from all blocs and none, though.

        All I said here, regarding en24, was that I found it genuinely useful to have the N3 line, in all its unchallenged glory, immediately available to me. I can’t see why that is seen as such a dramatic assertion.

        December 3, 2013 at 17:40 Reply
        1. anonymous

          Since you are implying that this site is biased would you care to tell us what you think is wrong with the article?

          December 3, 2013 at 18:41 Reply
          1. I would question the word “saved” in referance to these systems. If you simply hide and allow the enemy to roll over your space razing your infrastructure, can you then leap back out of hiding and put a flag in the rubble to claim you “saved” the space?

            I’m sure the N3 line members love taking gates to get around now that their space has been “saved” :-).

            December 3, 2013 at 18:56
          2. Gothic

            The only people who take gates are roams and cynos. Jump bridges are irrelevant when you have as many titans as N3 does. Being unable to cyno jam the system is far more relevant, but it just doesn’t sound as good when you are trying to weave the victory narrative to the pubbie masses from CFC who aparently still use jump bridges.

            December 3, 2013 at 19:11
          3. anonymous

            Even in the case of the cynojammer it is not important since we have been the ones using capitals far more often in this war.

            December 3, 2013 at 20:54
        2. Gothic

          Maybe you should go back and help them out again.
          To respond, you quite cleverly frame your statements in a way that asserts EN24 as a purely one sided propaganda site, while the site you helped create is obviously exactly that.

          Perhaps you should post this on mittens article:
          “Thanks for this: it’s always handy to know what the official CFC line is on any conflict and TMC reliably provides that.”

          December 3, 2013 at 19:04 Reply
      2. na

        Oh and most of bl are sulking as they are dread-less? As the SRP is aweful and VAF has a terrible indy backbone. Back to Q, I guess.

        December 3, 2013 at 18:16 Reply
    4. Scott L

      Believing your own propaganda now Endie?
      RusRus and all you kids couldn’t hold those systems for a single day?

      December 3, 2013 at 18:05 Reply
  4. N3 WarHQ

    Lets face it guys.. rus rus are so fucking terrible at sov wars that you should almost feel sorry for them. They have CFC working their ass off delivering one system after the other to them on a silver platter and still rus rus fails to get it done. We are now 4 weeks into a full out sov war and there is ZERO progress from the Russians. They can’t even clear their own regions off n3 sov.


    December 3, 2013 at 12:14 Reply
    1. JIeoH Mocc

      Not killing you fast enough, i see.

      December 3, 2013 at 12:51 Reply
      1. Jakes

        Considering it’s everyone(minus provi) versus N3/PL it is pretty slow.

        It’s like 55k versus 28k. Not sure how it hasn’t been an all out rout since the third party joined.

        December 3, 2013 at 16:33 Reply
        1. JIeoH Mocc

          Considering how N3 initiated this war by delivering theirs strike, the moaning about not killing you fast enough is hilarious.
          Also, dealing with abstract coalition numbers gives a clue that you don’t have a slightest idea about what you’re presuming to discuss.

          December 4, 2013 at 06:12 Reply
          1. Jakes

            Do you honestly think N3+PL isn’t outnumbered by the stain block+Solar+BL+CFC? Or are you actually trying to make the argument that that all those players are not attacking N3 assets.

            I simple stated a fact that one side has twice the number as the other. How about making an actually make a rational argument rather then just a ridiculous statment that anyone that doesn’t agree with you clearly doesn’t have a clue.

            December 4, 2013 at 07:28
          2. JIeoH Mocc

            Thank you for your opinion, keep up the good work.

            December 4, 2013 at 08:50
          3. N3 Dude

            Great Job. Within almost five post, most of the reader in here won’t consider you anymore. I mean everyone should have a opinion, but the shit you are writing here is just retarded and makes you not reliable.

            December 4, 2013 at 12:31
          4. JIeoH Mocc

            As long as it makes you want to comment my comments, i am content.

            December 4, 2013 at 14:11
      2. Simon pieman

        Wrong war silly, or are you really that unimaginative?

        December 3, 2013 at 19:45 Reply
        1. #yoloswaglord mad-dog2020

          I think this is called irony. Are you really that un-intelligent?

          December 6, 2013 at 15:06 Reply
    2. Robo

      This is with Rus/BL/cfc significantly outnumbering N3/PL aswell.
      Rus/BL able to do very little.

      December 3, 2013 at 18:48 Reply
      1. Varesk

        thats right, rusrus/bl cant really do anything during the week due to be outnumbered by n3. also n3 sets most of their timers for other tz than rusrus. which is understandable, they want to keep their space.

        December 3, 2013 at 19:17 Reply
      2. Simon pieman

        If its not dropping 50 dreads and ganking BL are poor, this isn’t breaking news but fact.

        Even with daddy mittens holding their hand BL are making fools of themselves, its funny to see as a neutral.

        December 3, 2013 at 19:47 Reply
        1. #yoloswaglord mad-dog2020

          I find it ridiculous that you claim to be a neutral when the majority of your ‘impartial’ comments are so heavily biased towards NCDOT/PL.

          You’re no ‘neutral’ if you have opinions like that.

          December 6, 2013 at 15:06 Reply
    3. stainres

      I too time systems for 2-3am Moscow time then chest beat about not losing them to people operating inside said TZ.

      December 4, 2013 at 14:15 Reply
      1. anonymous

        It is not our fault that even with the CFC’s US TZ you can not find a way to break through our defenses and last I checked -A- and BL both are heavily US TZ. The fact that even with the CFC you are struggling is a joke.

        December 4, 2013 at 15:18 Reply
  5. GrouchyOldGamer

    Personally I think Sov snap is a pretty important, time will tell.

    December 3, 2013 at 12:24 Reply
    1. Scott L

      Of course you do, your leaders told you so….

      December 3, 2013 at 18:03 Reply
      1. GrouchyOldGamer

        I love the fact that people are blinded by their own spin they have to run around accusing others of being incapable of personal opinions.

        In all the sov wars I’ve been in the ability to break a jump bridge network has been important.

        When I say ‘time will tell’ I’m acknowledging that it may not be in this case.

        But hey man – keep on thinking just because people have tickers you don’t like they aren’t able to have a friendly conversation. I have no problem crediting others with doing clever stuff in Eve with little regard to what ‘side’ they are on.

        Rock on dude.

        December 3, 2013 at 20:44 Reply
        1. anonymous

          The thing is most of our methods of transportation has been either jumping with carriers or titan bridging to our destination neither of which are affected by the JB’s being removed. We had already stopped using the i-n to dy- bridge because it was constantly being camped by cov ops fleets.

          December 3, 2013 at 20:52 Reply
          1. GrouchyOldGamer

            Which is a reasonable point, much better that ‘you only think that because Mittens told you so’ thanks

            December 3, 2013 at 21:30
        2. N3 Dude

          In my opinion Jb’s are only revelant if your are going out for a roam and want to get fast through empty space or you like to catch up an enemy roaming team, but not for sov wars, not at all.
          I rather would agree that they are used from the residents to get from station the the ratting sys.

          December 4, 2013 at 15:35 Reply
        3. Robo

          Your 1 of few cfc I have seen that to a degree is able to think for them selves. Trust me that is a positive.
          Problem is your not free from manipulation as who can be when they get bullshit mitten propaganda shoved down their throats 24/7.

          December 4, 2013 at 17:16 Reply
  6. Ugly Eric

    Interesting to see, how the propagandamachines work on either side. Both big eve newssites are supportin different side of the war. If you read them both + follow kugu + follow dotlan sovechanges + use your own brain instead of someone elses, you may actually get a good view on the war.

    December 3, 2013 at 12:33 Reply
    1. Confused

      Please clarify, how this is propaganda, just see facts stated here?

      December 3, 2013 at 13:00 Reply
    2. N3 Dude

      You are right that both sides have their own point of view about the battles and the activities about the process of the war. But you can’t deny that the eve news article are also informing about stupid mistakes and things that went wrong for the n3 side, whereas everything on is always in the favour of Goons and their friends.

      I think that article is pretty close to the truth and of course consists of a bit morale boost for the N3 side.

      December 3, 2013 at 13:31 Reply
      1. Ugly Eric

        That I do Agree on. Point to the propaganda is, that where Mittanicom points out N3 mistakes and welps, en24 seems to point out RUSRUS mistakes and welps πŸ™‚

        Make no mistake. I REALLY hope N3 will survive and win this war and on the alone reason of 0.0 staying more interesting with more entities in it.

        December 3, 2013 at 13:33 Reply
        1. JIeoH Mocc

          How’s 0.0 with ‘more’ entities in it which are not fighting each other is less interesting than 0.0 with ‘less’ entities that are actually going to war?

          December 3, 2013 at 13:37 Reply
          1. Ugly Eric

            well, if N3 survives, its one more entity, that fights the otherones compared to if they loose there is only cfc and rusrus left (im not counting provi in here) who have no interest to fight each others on big scale, even they would be neutral.

            December 3, 2013 at 14:11
          2. JIeoH Mocc

            what happened to that wonderful piece of propaganda that claimed that as soon as n3/pl are done the goons are going to backstab the stainwagon?
            Doesn’t seem like n3 will be missed.
            And, yeah, i really don’t think that PL is going to suffer, it will switch to the goons side as soon as they tire of this war. N3 is probably going to lowsec though.

            December 4, 2013 at 06:16
          3. Robo

            Every comment, I mean every comment is filled with undeserved smug that comes naturally to a cfc scrub tard. Empowerment that because they are in the biggest risk averse blob in eve they are safe. The collective power of bads equaling to 1 big blob leads you to believe you have worth in your words.
            How wrong you are.
            As much as I like observing cfc sheep willingness to look past facts that stair them in the face for some flimsy mitten propaganda, the doctrination of a human species is disturbing. Nazis all over again, hail Mittens.

            December 4, 2013 at 17:13
          4. JIeoH Mocc

            I would have bothered to argue the content of your whining if i actually were a part of the CFC. but since i am not, i won’t. Carry on.

            December 5, 2013 at 08:17
          5. Simon pieman

            You aren’t to clever are you, read what he says and think before posting.

            If everyone in nullsec is shooting PL/N3 then PL/N3 die and fade away there will be no one to fight, its really not that hard to grasp if you take a deep breath and think it through.

            December 3, 2013 at 19:50
          6. Eve 2013 Calls you

            Trust me, PL will never go anywhere. If N3 lose, PL is fine and will always be fine.

            December 3, 2013 at 22:14
          7. JIeoH Mocc

            I wonder how you worked this out, specially when the one of the main lines of n3 propaganda is that the goons are going to turn on the RUSRUS right after n3/pl are gone.
            My reasoning is more simple – N3 weren’t doing shit before this war, they weren’t willing to fight goons, so by clearing out a block that wasn’t fighting anyone 0.0 remains its ‘interest’ level, if not enhances it.

            December 4, 2013 at 06:10
          8. Robo

            Why you comment is beyond me, since you always talk utter rubbish.

            Rus/BL are more likely to stab each other in the back sooner than cfc will.
            That’s inevitable, time is the only factor in question.

            As far as N3 not willing to fight the cfc blob.
            You contradict your self all the time.
            Dotbros fought cfc & Solar bloc on a two front war for 4 months.
            Then N3 fought along side Test when Cfc thought they could have one of their heroic “oh look we out lob them 10:1, let’s get easy victory as they have no help” wars.

            Having the numbers to compete with cfc is hard enough since they are the biggest block numbers wise by far.
            Cfc jumping on the war on Rus/BL side so Mittens can gain more rental empire/rmt, just yet again shows the measure of mittens resolve as far as willingness to compete in open field, and is nothing but blatant in regards to his persistent trait of a risk averse nature, not wanting to do anything unless he believes he has insurmountable odds to keep his rental/rmt empire as priority safe. That’s the measure of the boy.

            December 4, 2013 at 08:15
          9. JIeoH Mocc

            Well there you go, i’m glad we agree. There will be plenty of backstabbing after n3 are gone, thus making 0.0 ‘not less’ interesting than before n3 attack.

            December 4, 2013 at 08:52
          10. Robo

            The way it’s going, back stabbing will commence long before the possible down fall of N3.
            Or are you also oblivious to Rus comms and forums posts.

            December 4, 2013 at 17:08
          11. JIeoH Mocc

            Not much longer to wait then. Let me assure you that i am following Rus comms closely, would you care to link some examples of those Rus comms/forums ‘indications of backstabbing’ you are speaking about?

            December 5, 2013 at 08:21
          12. N3 WarHQ

            N3 was born out of the ashes of dotbros and SoCo and has been at war since day one and has been around pretty much everywhere and has been at war the entire time. So claiming that N3 hasn’t done anything is retarded and stupid and only shows that you are either just being a troll or doesn’t really know what is going on or just another CFC retard repeating the CFC propaganda.

            Let me explain to you why CFC wants Stain RUS and SOLAR to be the dominant power in the south and drone regions – History has shown that the Russians will never attack CFC or be any kind of threat against CFC. N3 + PL is the only remaining threat to CFC’s plans of total control over nullsec as we know it today. The Mittani is willing to put pretty much everything on the line to make sure that N3 gets removed as a threat to CFC.

            However if this fails and CFC/RUS doesn’t succeed we all know that Stain RUS will pay the price for it. I would say that the odds of this plan failing are high because CFC are trying to beat N3+PL at the capital game and CFC’s history shows that CFC + capitals fights often means a lot of dead CFC capitals. The ability to stay calm and cool in a capital fight means everything and the only way to become that is experience and thats one thing that N3+PL has and CFC lacks. But the chance to experience the largest capital / super capital fight in EVE’s history is worth all of this πŸ™‚ Lets hope that the server will be able to handle it.

            December 4, 2013 at 12:59
          13. JIeoH Mocc

            Meh, that reminds me the HBC chest beating about going to war with goons until PL basically neutered them and threw them to the dogs. Guess you should have thought a move ahead then, eh?
            I really don’t care about this whole “less interesting” 0.0 after N3 will be gone, since history has shown[sic!] that after the HBC/TDC were gone 0.0 didn’t become less interesting.It remained the same blue doughnut with CFC/N3/PL not going to war despite that “coalition created to kill the CFC” bullshit. And since -DD- was created with one goal only – to go to war, i guess Mittens will get his threat removed, and you are being outplayed in the long run. BTW i am willing to be a toe that PL will walk away from this with no consequences (i am reading Mittens between the lines here), as for the rest of your coalition it’ll probably not end that well.

            Let me assure you that “Stain RUS” do not give half a fuck about “paying the price”. The best days with -DD- were in NPC space having 2-3-4 CTAs per week against the HBC. So “paying the price” is not really a threat anyone will take seriously, we’re more worried with you staying docked and not putting out fights even in USTZ.
            I am not sure how you presume to quantify the chances of such or such outcome of this conflict, since besides loosing a few system here and there you haven’t achieved any goals yet, and there is sort of a stalemate right now, or am i missing something?

            December 4, 2013 at 14:38
  7. Titshit

    PsyOps . <3 it

    December 3, 2013 at 13:49 Reply
  8. Julius

    I heard that PL is ready to jump out from N3 boat. They signed a non invasion pact with CFC intended on maintaining their renting empire.
    Proof: look at dotlan map were Fcon reinforcing and taking N3 systems and avoiding PL ones.

    December 3, 2013 at 14:13 Reply
    1. N3 WarHQ

      I heard that CFC are ready to go back home because Russians are really bad at eve.

      We will just see what happens v0v

      December 3, 2013 at 14:40 Reply
    2. Gothic

      I heard that Nulli and Razor are in meetings discussing a new coalition together since BL cant seem to do anything but whelp capitals.
      Making things up is fun.

      December 3, 2013 at 17:15 Reply
    3. GSection

      I heard in the next expansion there will be a new race called the Burritos whose ships will strangely resemble various Mexican lunch entrees. Apparently they will be using some type of new gas cloud super weapon.

      December 3, 2013 at 18:26 Reply
    4. Robo

      I heard cfc grunts suddenly became un-retarded and revolted against their rmt lord mittens and his inner circle, to free eve of doctrinated content. To create gfs and wage their own pathes in eve, allowing N3 and Rus to disband coalitions and go at the sov map as smaller blocs of alliances or by their own.
      I heard that the cancer of eve has disbanded.

      December 4, 2013 at 18:44 Reply
      1. RBW

        I heard you applied to be a spy for the CFC but they turned you down citing you needed to be smarter than a potato. Is this why you are always so upset?

        December 4, 2013 at 22:28 Reply
        1. Robo

          I heard that you have to be a really sad cunt to imply that you’ve got to have any amount of IQ to be in cfc.
          Iv also heard that a guy called rbw gets pretty space mad if you write with predict text.
          Haters guna hate baddies guna be bad. Long live rbw you little grammar nazi minion you, btw library that way ->

          December 5, 2013 at 06:41 Reply
  9. Cloora

    As soon as my Dread loss mail from HLW-HP was up on our killboard, I had a new fully fit one sitting in my clone station in low sec.

    Pandemic Legion best Legion

    December 3, 2013 at 16:48 Reply
  10. NotInvolved

    Of course that’s not a propaganda post πŸ˜‰
    Not at all πŸ˜€

    December 3, 2013 at 16:54 Reply
  11. Angry customer

    For all those saying this is a propaganda piece.. where?

    I am with TEST atm, you could count me as a neutral party in this war, but where the hell is the propaganda people are calling out!? I am looking at the sov map, the changes in null sec and all posts on both major news websites, all I am seeing are facts here…

    I really don’t think saying stuff like ‘Wthout a station to safely position their slowcats it seemed N3 was not willing to defend these systems.’ is good propaganda..

    EN24 gives more reliable news that mittens, comparing the two posts from the last fight about the dreads, one was written by ‘mercfromabove’ in nulli secunda, giving a slightly bias view by saying the dread kills were worth it. Many would agree, many wouldn’t. But look at the mittani’s post… just no..

    December 3, 2013 at 17:29 Reply
    1. Kratisto

      A test member presumably ousted from fountain, proclaiming a lack of progress because the sov maps show nothing.


      This is referred to as propaganda because N3 lost a jump bridge system that was important for ease-of-transit between the north and south of their empire/coalition, and yet the author refuses to consider it as strategically important. Sure its no staging system, but a lot of stuff travels by jump bridges: cyno ships needing to reach their destinations, allies with holdings in the north, strategic fleets, etc. Ease of access is important, and despite all the snide calls of “wasn’t using it anyway” (didn’t want that ship anyway, sound familiar?) it is relevant.

      December 3, 2013 at 19:02 Reply
      1. mercfromabove

        that is propaganda in itself as the Russians would have to destroy every system around to stop new jump bridges going up. The systems strategic importance is nothing if you have 6 systems to take its place. Taking a jump bridge offline is not news worthy, no matter how you swing it.

        December 3, 2013 at 19:11 Reply
        1. #yoloswaglord mad-dog2020

          But the battle IS however. The battle resulted in the offlining of a JB, why would you not report on the implications of a battle ‘lost’, regardless of how minor they might be?

          December 6, 2013 at 14:54 Reply
          1. mercfromabove

            The jump bridge was offline a good 12 hours before this fight took place. The fight took place because of Nulli attacking an SBU in the system, BL saw a hot drop opportunity (a quick get in, kill them all and get out)
            But things didn’t go down that way..

            December 7, 2013 at 08:41
          2. #yoloswaglord mad-dog2020

            Ah I see, thanks for clarifying

            December 7, 2013 at 11:47
    2. #yoloswaglord mad-dog2020

      I agree that this isn’t really propaganda. Sure you could argue that somehow, somewhere he’s spinning shit. But it’s not propaganda.

      But saying you’re a neutral party in the war? HA.

      Either you’re butthurt that the CFC dunked you, or you’re butthurt that N3 abandoned you. I’ve not yet met someone in TEST who hasn’t belonged to either of those groups.

      “EN24 gives more reliable news that mittens”

      I don’t even get why I stay on this site. I see shitty Goblin articles, articles written by people whose first language isn’t english and all the awful tinfoil that is the comments section.

      December 6, 2013 at 14:34 Reply
  12. na

    Nulli get beat up every evening practically, and I don’t care how long this campaign takes as long as I can fight with S2N. I do miss INK brawls. So its all good S2N don’t need jb’s which are overrated imo, gate brawls best brawls.

    December 3, 2013 at 18:25 Reply
  13. Scott L

    So, being that the Russians/CFC had to alarmclock the entire holiday weekend to take those systems while the US was out eating Turkey.
    They then failed to protect them at the last minute, and gave them back to N3 without even a fight?
    Morale Victory!

    December 3, 2013 at 18:36 Reply
    1. Because the CFC and BL who did the kills on those hubs don’t have a USTZ <3

      If it was a station system that had been recaptured before the TCU came online this article would make sense. The objective was to snap the jump bridge network and that was achieved, recapturing the now pointless system is not much of a victory. If these systems are to be N3's EI-O0O fair enough, rejoice that you have rescued your now bridgeless system o/.

      December 3, 2013 at 18:47 Reply
      1. Provi Miner

        did I miss something, thought the article was clear about titan bridging being the primary method of defending these systems?

        December 3, 2013 at 18:54 Reply
        1. Eve 2013 Calls you

          What the article fails to mention is that Nulli used these JBs almost daily to get to fleet fights. But ya know, ~spin~

          December 3, 2013 at 22:11 Reply
          1. richard thomson

            it fails to mention it because its bullshit. I have only seen one fleet go through the jb between i-n and gxk and only half the fleet got through because the JB ran out of fuel. After that its titan bridges only for a fleet of any real size

            December 3, 2013 at 23:21
          2. Robo

            It’s called mittens spin, when you fail utterly, pick 1 thing you did right and claim victory. Mitten spin best spin, however anyone with
            IQ above 1 digit can see through this shambles.

            December 4, 2013 at 17:04
          3. RBW

            Robo, anyone with an IQ of 10 can write better than you. Your grammar is awful.

            December 4, 2013 at 22:15
          4. Robo

            Always got to be a grammar nazi, I’m not making any special effort to go over my predict text via my mobile for you.
            I’m afraid you will just have to learn to use your imagination slightly, you won’t learn to fly Peter Pan unless you use your imagination.

            December 5, 2013 at 06:34
      2. Robo

        Cfc scrub got to play upto mittens propaganda… As they say baddies guna be bad.
        Jump Bridges are convenient for a lot of people, however this is like watching a boxer try and cheap shot their opponent, who blocks and knocks them the fuck out.
        Then in interview after you start bullshitting about how you won the fight because of some technical error by the judges.
        Cfc propaganda fail propaganda… thada way son.

        You not heard n3/ PL have a shitnon of titans to bridge!

        December 3, 2013 at 20:35 Reply
        1. Why do you break down to ragey abuse so quickly?

          December 3, 2013 at 20:48 Reply
          1. Robo

            Simply implying a fun metaphor to the situation BROLO, if you follow my comments to an extent you’d reAlise I enjoy trolling baddies, and reap tears and dissect bullshit all the time. If you feel that’s raged abuse, advice I’d give is to get some back bone, however it’s well know you don’t have any since your in the cfc after all. Wololololol
   on the operating table 24/7 I’m afraid.

            December 3, 2013 at 22:53
        2. Eve 2013 Calls you

          Are you mad? You seem mad.

          December 3, 2013 at 22:10 Reply
          1. Robo

            I’ll be reaping your tears into 2014 I iust know it.

            December 3, 2013 at 22:57
        3. Ironybot




          8 days ago

          You seem mad! My diagnoses is usually spot on.

          December 11, 2013 at 23:13 Reply
      3. Robo

        Ohh noes the cfc/BL/Rus significantly outnumber N3/PL and they not able to compete in USTZ talks volumes of the worthless shit turds they are.

        December 3, 2013 at 20:37 Reply
        1. stainres

          You do realize what RUS stands for right? Hint, it means Russian. Which, oddly enough, means not USTZ.

          December 4, 2013 at 14:12 Reply
          1. Robo

            Point being though Rus/BL/cfc are far bigger than N3/PL so if they as a collective of dirty blobbing noobs are finding any timezone hard then more fool them.

            December 4, 2013 at 17:02
      4. Gandalf

        Spartans didn’t need teleportation to fight the persians

        December 3, 2013 at 21:07 Reply
        1. The Spartans died πŸ™

          December 3, 2013 at 22:14 Reply
          1. Robo

            Aye but gloriously.
            As they would say, a good death is a glorious death.

            December 3, 2013 at 22:48
          2. best_burek

            Who says that? Sure as hell the dead guy didn’t? So it must have been the smarter guy who made a strategic retreat.

            December 5, 2013 at 18:36
          3. asweetvet

            Yet here you are 2000+ years later still talking about them, so I’d say that they not only claimed but earned immortality πŸ˜‰

            December 4, 2013 at 19:25
          4. best_burek

            Depends who writes the history. Even if you loose and you are the writer of the history that everyone is going to read 2000+ years later, you could make yourself look like a god even though you lost.

            December 5, 2013 at 18:35
        2. best_burek

          These guys are more like pixel Romans defiantly not Spartans. Cause the Spartans did it with sheer courage and tactics…..Not…..I guess none count the others factions who were present at Thermopylae.

          December 5, 2013 at 18:43 Reply
      5. lawful insanity

        Seriously bro, the bridge means nothing. And since n3 is the titan and super powerhouse, and that’s before u even count pl and there titan blob. Moving around isn’t an issue.

        December 3, 2013 at 21:30 Reply
        1. Britanicus

          Seriously, I didn’t even know anyone even used jump bridges anymore.

          December 4, 2013 at 13:41 Reply
          1. Norrec Lafisques

            Their renters sure do.

            December 7, 2013 at 02:41
      6. richard thomson

        was the loss of the JB inconvient, sure was. Did it do any lasting damage, doubt it.

        I know that most of the time we would use titan bridges between i-n and gxk because they are faster and safer.

        Sure NC. would use the JB to goto to pickup something because they have a better, more markup, market than we do

        December 3, 2013 at 23:19 Reply
  14. Varesk

    I read your article and it seems you fail to understand that 650 dudes in subcaps wont beable to do anything to an archon blob.

    December 3, 2013 at 19:14 Reply
    1. Robo

      Bring dreads… Oh wait they died.
      Get more dreads… And chuck On Benifits Legion some isk to replace their dreads as well.

      December 3, 2013 at 20:28 Reply
      1. Varesk

        are you stupid or just an idiot?

        December 3, 2013 at 20:33 Reply
        1. Robo

          You seem mad! My diagnoses is usually spot on.

          December 3, 2013 at 20:38 Reply
          1. Eve 2013 Calls you

            Where does he seem mad? Is that the only comeback you have? Sigh…

            December 3, 2013 at 22:09
          2. Robo

            Since his comment is as irrelevant as mine, a you mad comment was all that it was worth gracing a response with.

            December 3, 2013 at 22:47
    2. anonymous

      There are many ways you could but if you and your leadership can not figure that out then that is not my problem.

      December 3, 2013 at 20:49 Reply
  15. Ciaphas Cyne

    i love it how you guys take yourselves so seriously about this propaganda. does it really work? im not sure the psychology of an internet gamer can be manipulated in the same way as in real life. good luck tho, N3 and friends, you will need it. CFC are strangely competent when it comes to the big picture.

    December 3, 2013 at 19:21 Reply
    1. Robo

      Cfc are good at manipulation of the weaker bodies around it.
      Cfc as a coalition is a manipulation of Mittens and the inner circle of rmt’r.
      So playing Rus like a fiddle is hardly much effort for their own purposes.

      December 3, 2013 at 20:27 Reply
      1. Ciaphas Cyne

        you realize CCP has full access to its own game right? if mittens did rmt, CCP would know it. dont be so butt-hurt over the fact they play the meta so well. At least BoB (aka pl and n3) has won almost every alliance tourny. cant be good at everything

        December 4, 2013 at 00:03 Reply
        1. indy

          hahaha oh my G ignorance is strong with this one πŸ™‚

          December 4, 2013 at 00:30 Reply
        2. anonymous

          It is not that hard to hide that you are rmt’ing. Silent Dodger did it without CCP finding out and he was the leader of a major alliance at the time.

          December 4, 2013 at 03:37 Reply
    2. Scott L

      Complains about excessive propaganda, then calls CFC strangely competent?
      Is that you Mittens?

      December 4, 2013 at 17:33 Reply
  16. -_-

    perhaps N3 and PL could offer some space to TEST if they can get some assistance. TEST isn’t the most powerful alliance in game but every bit helps especially when your facing down all the rest of null sec.

    December 3, 2013 at 21:39 Reply
    1. indy

      test is still cfc if u ask me….

      December 4, 2013 at 00:29 Reply
    2. Ossey

      If TEST join , CFC will do a full deploy πŸ™‚

      December 4, 2013 at 02:41 Reply
      1. Dennis the Dreamer

        No doubt.

        December 4, 2013 at 11:00 Reply
  17. True story

    but, wait! look at dotlan, goonswagon are loosing all the system they have recently taken!
    do they know that if they will stop to attack we will go on the offensive?

    December 4, 2013 at 14:56 Reply
    1. Forgive__Me

      Yep! We know! WE KNOW MAN!

      December 5, 2013 at 15:54 Reply
    2. Gandalf

      This probably is what CFC-HC wants!

      December 6, 2013 at 15:01 Reply
  18. Necromonger

    As a goon i dont care much for the space we take and lose tbh….
    I am just there for the fun of it.
    We have nothing to lose there but N3 income is on the line so we can just hang back and have fun.

    Also remember this aint a full deployment yet, each alliance is doing their own shit, some good and some bad.
    Its a great way to give new fc’s a chance to win and lose battles and learn from it without the stress of losing your own systems.

    Seems one thing i noticed is that our renting programs has doubled last month so thats a positive thing for our side πŸ˜›

    And like that N3 dude said, check both site’s + Dotlan + kugu and you can pick up the victory’s and defeats for yourself.
    have to admit its kinda strange to fight a war where we are a 3rd party πŸ˜› think its the 1st time for us ^^

    December 4, 2013 at 17:27 Reply
    1. bitter vet

      no, its not.

      December 4, 2013 at 22:26 Reply
    2. ally teams please

      first time …. hahahahahahahahahahah… thats comedy gold.

      December 5, 2013 at 07:21 Reply
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