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You probably heard that Insidious Empire [EMP] is closing. This isn’t happening often. No, I’m not talking about failed groups and projects, they happen all the time. What is rare is simply accepting “it doesn’t work, let’s close it and let everyone find his happiness as he can”.

What usually happens is a long agony with desperate attempts to save the organization. I left TEST when it started there. Even before 6VDT I wrote on the forum that with the current lack of leadership and FCs, the best move is exactly what Phreeze did: close the alliance and move the corps to another, functional one. Probably not by accident I also suggested Nulli Secunda. But that damn BoodaBooda and his second class excuses for management held on to their space importance and kept leading TEST into oblivion.

This would have been the fate of EMP too. But Phreeze recognized that he is unable to lead the alliance properly but refused to lead it improperly and did the right thing: closed it. He should be commended for this. Not many give up space-importance so easily.

There is one thing everyone must understand: groups aren’t people.People are people. The destruction of EMP isn’t the destruction of the members. Just as Makalu found home in Pandemic Legion, every one of them will sooner or later be somewhere else and won’t shed a tear for EMP. No groups deserve the sacrifice of people. Groups are there to serve members and not the other way. The example of Phreeze should be followed by every failed group leader. When your group couldn’t break into nullsec, the solution isn’t lingering in NPC space while crying that “small guys can’t get a foothold in null”, because they can. Your group isn’t a guy, it is a group. The guys are the members you are stopping from getting a foothold in null by keeping them in NPC space instead of letting them go to join groups that aren’t failures.

- Gevlon Goblin

If you would like to read more Gevlon Goblin articles, we invite you to visits his Greedy Goblin blog.

  • Reticent Toad

    What is this?

    • lulz

      It reminds me of the old “I HATE EVE UNI” posts that Poetic Stanziel used to write.

      • Reticent Toad

        Oh god.. lets hope those don’t start coming around again…..

  • Jason

    This sounds more like a sad attempt at trolling a former alliance then anything else. Not in Test, and never have been, but they are probably having fun at whatever they are doing. It somewhat bothers me to see people that think just because an alliance doesn’t own sov. then they clearly failed. newsflash: any alliance can own sov., all they need to do is suck some dick.

  • Jaime Gomes

    Phenomenal article! The best!. Honestly i was dumb folded by the conclusion and point of this article.

    • dumb folded

      dumb folded

      • orly?

        Sov Origami?

  • Jakes

    I usually don’t hate on this guy, as he seems to get shit on by everyone else, but his ignorance in this case is astonishing.

    I especially liked the part where he implied that anyone that is living in NPC null is not living there by choice, and are a failure. Because clearly everyone wants to kiss the ring of someone else, and take part in TiDi fights, and shoot tons of structures?

    • Billbo

      wait, NPC null stopped being shit? when was the patch for that?

      • BS

        I really hope you be trollin. NPC null is way better than sov in so many ways… Then again , if you are carebear propably sov is better for you

      • Gothic Light

        An area of the game where small corps and alliances can base from without the threat of losing their station to a 60k man coalition if they don’t bend the knee.

        Decent income at the personal level from pirate lp makes it even MORE shit right? Who cares if it’s 2x the income you’d get from ratting in null anoms, or 4x the income from hs missions.

        Billbo – leading contender for Retard of the Year: 2014
        “NPC null is shit”

        • trololl

          you mad

          • lol

            Not sure if you don’t understand sarcasm, or you are pretending to be retarded….

      • Jakes

        How is it shit? Please explain.

        • lulz

          Wild guess…. his alliance leader told him it’s shit. The fact that it’s arguable the best income in the game with the least effort obviously isn’t taken into account well gauging the value of the space lol…..

  • Cold as ice

    YEs, ! Triumvirate , are horrible at the game, and live in NPC space. cause we fail. WE have no blues, cause no one likes us. We have alliance Tournament ships just by luck.

    • santa

      shhh… don’t tell the secret!

    • Shvak

      Proof that you can live in null and be small and insignificant. Thanks for sharing

      • sadleric

        Point to me on the killboard where and how many times Tri touched you.

  • Billbo

    Jesus, I actually agree.

    • :P

      Drunk? High? Actually fucking retarded?

      • lol

        probably a combination of all three

  • BS

    Lol GG wrote one decent article while ago, about goons. Now back to crappy braging “i told you so”, “im awesome” etc. Whitout a clue what is he talking abput again. So sad…

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  • War Anyone?

    where’s you foothold in null sec, bro?

  • Synisterspyderbite

    My brain cells slowly commit suicide one by one when this guy posts something.

    • disqus_YGD0NNPbUQ

      The best part is I talked to phreeze about this article, he said and I quote “God gelven is such a retard, why do they let him post on that damn site at all”

      • I Am The Dude

        I highly doubt you actually talked to phreeze, however everybody keeps hating on gevlon just because most people dont like him.
        Is there actually a reason for not liking him?

        • disqus_YGD0NNPbUQ

          I did talk to phreeze, I play out of eve games with him, and the reason we don’t like gelvon is because he is an idiot who constant posts idiotic articles on this site and we all want to troll him out of existence. If he would actually post non-opinionated and intelligent articles that include factual information then I’d actually like him. But he doesn’t, so he can go die in a fire.

        • lol

          Ummm… maybe because he is literally the dumbest fuck in this game, and finds it necessary to go around telling other people enjoying the game that they are doing it wrong because they are not playing the game the same way he does?

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  • Bemused

    So… all those years where PL held no or only marginal sov, they were an aweful failure of an alliance? Whereas Li3 with it’s sov is the epitome of a nullsec-alliance?

  • Verenikin

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  • http://battorem.blogspot.com/ BattoRem

    oh goblin. you are so quick to throw up the white flag. Some people love the organizatoon they are a part of and want to try and make it work. Giving up is just the lazy way out. Sure tell your members that they will restructure and that they can leave if they want to but done just close the alliance because you stop believing in it.

  • Snowblinded

    So, basically, if your alliance is led by an incompetent who utterly fails to assign back-up leadership when “real life” inevitably happens and blames FC’s for taking initiative, you should just disband your alliance and pat yourself on the back. Got it.

  • shut up

    put 3 monkeys with 3 typewriters in a dark room and lock them for about 3 and a half minutes and all of them will come up with the next 3 articles that will be published by glevon on this horrible site

  • Homophobic John

    Awful. You seem like one of those genuinly stupid people that has the unique ability to lock themselves inside of their own car. I really have no idea why I think you have the ability to drive or even the means to purchase your own car. So take that with a grain of salt.

  • John Bosch

    Well that’s 5 minutes of my life I’m not getting back.

    • Barkaway

      Well atleast it was ONLY 5 min^^

    • Shadoo`s Eyebrow`s

      5 mins to read that think u need to go bk to school

  • Jack

    Fire Glevon.

  • Quakker

    Win/lose, succeed/fail. It’s all relative on the goal and ambitions of the alliance. In that respect TEST failed last year. Saying that NPC space alliances are failures because that’s what they want to do is like saying Merc and Indie Indie alliances are failures as well.

    I get that all of your posts are opinion based, what standard are you basing them off though?

  • RealWorldTroll

    Fuck you!!! go die in hell (in game and in real life) Thanks

  • http://themittani.com/ Gilles Navarien

    - Proclaims he will save TEST and destroy the CFC
    – Organizes mass donation scam
    – Organizes alliance ratting ops
    – Fails to save TEST
    – Abandons TEST while shitting all over them in three new articles (perhaps his best work)
    – Moans about TESTs poor leadership
    – Praises AFK Master Phreeze for great leadership
    – Is Gevlon

    • lol

      forgot to add
      -praises Phreeze for quitting as soon as running a space empire became, “work”

  • Puchoco Voluspa

    Dear Gevlon,

    today I woke up at around 8am. I washed my face and thanked a deity in which I don’t believe for being a smart cookie and taking a shower the night before, cause the water was fucking ice cold.

    I sprayed some more Lynx Apollo ( cause spaceships ) and got dressed. Today would be the day that I’d show everyone at my local coffee place my new pair of pants that I recently purchased from J Crew.

    I exited my building and ran across the street to get my morning coffee. A police car was parked right around the corner and thoughts of jay walking tickets started entering my mind. Being the rebel that I am, I just turned my coat’s collar up, lowered my head and walked into the coffee place feeling like a proper goodfella.

    The only noteworthy incident there, was that nobody complimented me on my new pants. Slightly disappointed I picked my coffee and left.

    Since I didn’t have anything to do today I opted to stay at home and spend some time on my computer. I launched EVE, checked my skill queue, sold a few things in Jita, lost an Ares to war targets cause I forgot we were wardec’ed in the first place and then trolled alliance chat for a little bit. Right before downtime I decided to call it a day for EVE and have some lunch.

    I opened the fridge and saw nothing of interest in it. I looked around my kitchen and then opened the fridge again as if something could have magically appeared out of thin air in there. In the end I had to admit defeat and make peace with the fact that I would order take away.

    This is where things really get interesting :

    Pizza or Chinese? The moral dilemma of honoring my part italian nature vs me actually craving some fried rice with pork, baby corn and other veggies. Finding the perfect excuse of ” they don’t make it italian like anyway ” and with the fear of the ghost of my dead grandmother haunting me for the rest of my days I dialed my local chinese take away.

    As the phone was ringing several trivia about China started flashing in my mind. How the great wall is one of the few man made objects that are visible to the naked eye from space, how 2014 is the year of the horse and more. Even though I’m average I’m considered a giant for competitive horse racing. The same probably is true for you; unless you are a midget…

    The lady on the phone sounded suspiciously british and that made me question the authenticity of the cuisine they claim they offer. However, I had tasted their food before and I wasn’t backing away. I was having their famous #52 no matter what. I added a #1 as well ( Spring Rolls ) because I felt bad ordering just a single dish.

    My food arrived 40 minutes later and it was indeed delicious. I was afraid I wouldn’t be able to perform adequately with the chopsticks but apparently it’s like riding a bicycle. Or masturbating. Learn to do it once; never forget how to do it.

    I didn’t want to let myself fall asleep cause I did that the day before and then couldn’t sleep at night. So I made some tea and grabbed a book. I am going through a silly phase in literature and I’m enjoying the guilty pleasure that are John Grisham novels. I spent the rest of the afternoon reading my book.

    I was still full after all those hours so I opted not to have a proper dinner. Instead I picked from the fridge the only edible thing, which was greek yoghurt and sliced a banana in it. It was really yummy! I opened the lid of my laptop and browsed Youtube. Same shit different day… I need to unsubscribe from all those stupid people.

    I stumbled upon your article on evenews. It was an interesting read. Your elaborate thinking really shines a light on all those events in eve online. Then I was inspired to write about my day.

    So ( and pardon my boldness ) my friend, this was a good day. A little bit exciting but not too much. Just enough.

    o7 Gevlon

    Sincerely yours,

    Puchoco Voluspa

    • Methylated Spirit

      I love you

      • Guest

        Yes I awoke to a cold morning my nipples were on storks , alas id no had ashower the night before and had to do my hair.

        • lol

          I think the word you were looking for was stilts.

    • Dear Glevon,
      Die.

  • Noisrevbus

    It seems to have gone above most people’s heads what EMP and similar projects was all about.

    When TEST split off the CFC and went on to be groomed and styled as an enemy to the GSF and the CFC (to create GSF-level content) by forming the HBC: PL seeded half of their active FC’s within the HBC in various projects from TEST proper to smaller corporations within alliances or smaller alliances within that coalition.

    EMP was Phreeze’s project aimed at producing warm bodies for the HBC at an intermediate level (ie., medium-sized alliance geared toward medium-level ships). After TEST’s initial implosion and dissolution of the HBC proper (before the Fountain war) these projects were more or less dumped into PL’s lap, with TEST-fractions or marginalized HBC groups intergrating into them.

    That means that Phreeze dissolving EMP was only a question of time since it’s purpose became defunct the day TEST cut ties with the other midlevel HBC-groups (like the Initiative; who EMP were sort of modeled on, looking to fill a similar role of a competent large-subcapital backbone and moderate Capital power; running LRBS and Slows) and refused the hail mary throw PL took with sending Sort over to triage the hemorrhage (another FC plant, of sorts).

    The only reason(s) EMP existed this long was most likely that the work had already been put into it so they might as well let it bear or burst (letting it play a part in the developing narrative) – and the fact that Phreeze himself likely felt compelled to let it drop on slightly softer ground. It’s worth repeating though, the strategic role of EMP was already played out by the time they took on Gents’ and Razor’s “third party honor” north-east. It died with TEST losing the patience to build HBC into something competetive to the CFC.

    • Alison King

      thanks the gods test died before my spy alts in emp got moved over to test !

  • nada

    phreeze failed to install a leadership structure that would/could have continued his work, him closing down the alliance was egoistic and selfish.

    • Hik

      A fitting end for an alliance built around one mans ego.

  • lol

    This is what this site has come to, an “article” embracing the values of being a quitter at the first sign of opposition. If you are that depressed in your life then I suggest suck starting a shot gun and leaving the rest of us the fuck alone while you put yourself out of what must be a special kind of misery.

  • Inigo Montoya

    As much as I think most of Gevlons articles are garbage, the one kernel of truth here is that eve is full of those failing and unable to come to terms with it. The outcome is that they can negatively affect their members experience and cause some to leave game thinking that all organizations in eve are that messed up.

    I salute your pride and obstinence, crappy Corp/Alliance leaders of eve. Lead on… :p

  • Dirk MacGirk

    Phreeze’s only mistake was he didn’t give director roles to Scooter McCabe
    Has anyone considered that Phreeze didn’t disband because things weren’t working out or that his sub-leadership were somehow shit? Perhaps he disbanded and handed over all that real estate in order to put it under BotLord and thus PL’s protection. CFC was coming home and it was one of the few targets available to the CFC. This move ultimately took it out of play.

  • spacemonkey

    I just read a fantastic article on EN24 about the Halloween War. Next up? This total shit lord post made by some retarded fuck

    What the flaming hell.

  • Jevous Encule

    Sad to see one of EMP’s biggest corp that left yesterday, is already with a CFC alliance. I guess a lot of people are just saying: “Fuck it, if you cant beat them, just join them!” And the blue donut just gets bigger and fatter! Eve’s null sec is becoming such a big joke! Thank god there is low sec and NPC null…oh and WHs to!

    • Monkey Juggler

      And Providence.

    • MrSeb

      Well, it also looks like they have lost tons of members as well who do not sympathise with the CFC.
      The carebears stay while the active guys leave.

      • Zor

        That is good for the Eve community then isn´t it? An endless supply of carebears to shoot for roaming fleets.

  • -EH- Grunt

    Who the fuck would ever choose to live in NPC Null? Aren’t huge lag fest TiDi fights what null is all about? And, good lord, what would a null sec entity do without sov bills and space masters to suck off?

  • I swear I am not Luwc

    Just as I hoped that you got killed in a horrible horrible accident.

    It was so nice without you.

    Kill yourself IRL pls.

  • Please Just Stop, Goblin

    Goblin back to his state-the-bleeding-obvious and utterly crap writing, then.

    Shame, that last article was good. After reading this I simply don’t believe Goblin wrote that last one. It was far too well through through, researched and laid out. No way Goblin did that.

  • dichzor

    Insinuating that nulli secunda is a functional alliance… lol.
    As for Phreeze… well, if you have Goblin singing your praises.. man, you must be a massive, i repeat, a massive cockwomble. And what do you know… hueheuhuehue

  • Winmatar

    This is nothing more then a “I hate ‘insert alliance name’ leadership” post.

  • Yazoo PEWPEW

    You know Pheeze is currently trying to milk everything for himself currently. Not the people who took on the alliance whilest his “holiday”

  • Colin Wilson

    One thing that always makes me laugh whenever I see a Gevlon article is the hate in the comments.

    So many comments hating on his information, his writing, and his character, yet all of you read every article he posts.

    Mission accomplished Mr. Goblin, well done.

    • BS

      Ye people like to watch retarded people, because its funny and interesting to comment

  • EMPsubhuman

    Phrezze deserves to be batted with a hammer. He sold us all to PL so they can rent out Cobalt Edge to recover from their B-R losses. Fuck Phreeze!

  • Gevlon is retarded

    “groups aren’t people.People are people”

    “Groups are there to serve members and not the other way.”

    Thats totally wrong – and maybe one of the reasons for many failcascades…