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With the SOV war in the south not going in favor of The CFC at this point, it now appears that another war of damage control is starting to bleed out across the stars of New Eden. While at the same time, the real assault of stealing renters for their income is well underway.

It’s no secret that members within Against ALL Authorities with other Russian bloc forces such as Darkness., Darkness and Despair, and even Black Legion have begun to lessen their attacks on N3 and N3’s coalition forces. There hasn’t been a single military victory under the command of The CFC since The Mittani swooped in with his latest CEO update on December 15th. As a matter of fact, they botched their attempted deployment to a SOV-base before it was even announced by losing a station egg. Most large scale fighting has almost come to a complete halt with rumors abounding of RUS and CFC not able to get numbers to counter N3 forces.

It appears that alliances in the south fighting against N3 are pissed that the CFC, who were once fighting WITH them, are now the ones calling the shots. Insinuating this is what The CFC are entitled too, even though the ones who put in all the work over the last several months are being marginalized (this means you Stainwagon).

The damage control isn’t just limited to the south though. Recently EMP up north has apparently been successful at stopping The CFC threat. Hoping to open another front, CFC member Gentleman’s Agreement was tasked with long hours of structure grinding only to have it ALL taken away a few days later by EMP fleets. Frustrated and isolated, Gentleman’s Agreement gave up. Their members upset about all the work they did for nothing. You can hear just how terrible it’s been for them with the latest Gentleman’s Agreement state of the alliance recording.

The real war here now appears to NOT be the fight against N3 SOV, but against the N3 rental empire. The CFC are trying to horde all the renters away from Stainwagon/N3 that they can. A quick look at Dotlan will show numerous corps leaving various rental alliances over the last few weeks/months and ending up conveniently in the CFC rental group. This is what it’s all about folks, and it’s already happening. You will see it mentioned time and time again on forums, websites, post after post. The war of attrition is a war over rental income–with SOV apparently being an afterthought now.  The CFC is looking to majorly grow their rental income–perhaps to further increase their capital fleet size?

Will this backfire on The CFC? It’s hard to tell, but with most of their space almost completely empty, or poorly defended (as the case with Spaceship Samurai coming to kill Li3), this war is really risky for them.

Anything can happen though, and with the holidays here it’ll be very interesting to see what occurs over the next couple of weeks but one thing is clear: war is still all about the money.

128 Comments

  1. GrouchyOldGamer

    I’m glad to see that the amazing deals we offer our rental partners are getting the credit they deserve:

    http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Greater_Western_Co-Prosperity_Sphere

    “Will this backfire on The CFC? It’s hard to tell, but with most of their
    space almost completely empty, or poorly defended (as the case with
    Spaceship Samurai coming to kill Li3), this war is really risky for
    them.”

    Not sure how well researched this piece was, but the first time Spaceship Samurai dropped an SBU they lost a carrier trying to defend it from LI3:

    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20988264

    Gangbang Team live in NPC Fountain and they drop bitches 24/7 so it’s not like the region is a remote backwater – FA/LI3 have been dealing this for a while.

    They actually seem to be having fun up there ……… amazing I know ……. I’m sure there will be some back and forth but it’s no biggy.

    December 21, 2013 at 08:37 Reply
    1. Fa winning eve

      FA and Li3 dropped a 250man Domi fleet + Capitals together with a 50man Marauder/Pirate BS fleet from LAWN on Spaceshit Samurai who welped to Bomber fleets into it and Securitas loggind out 30min later.

      Some of S.S member base already discussing to leave for renters or joining FA.

      December 21, 2013 at 09:18 Reply
      1. -EH- Grunt 2
        December 21, 2013 at 09:27 Reply
        1. coolstroy

          maybe link your other 50bomber losses aswell, to show how fucking bad you are. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=21014362
          Looks about even, but hey at least you wasted 1 bill on SBU’s and got shit on so hard, that you stood down 30min after you ran out of SB.

          December 21, 2013 at 12:10 Reply
          1. LAWN

            OYou forgot to mention that LAWN’s marauder fleet destoyed the S.S Talwar fleet and and a shitton of small shit trying to run around.

            December 21, 2013 at 12:12
          2. ss grunt

            wow the koolaid river flows deep in the west. FA didn’t have 250 man domi.more like 150 + logi and 16 carriers. I guess lawn brought a marauder fleet and l13 brought some kitchen sink shit.SAMURAI deployed out in systems early in 40 man talwar fleet, of which none were lost btw and harassed stragglers and odd targets of opurtunity. the fountain core groups were flying around in bomber gangs.i think they had some help from fellas from up north who like shooting goons.tldr. we all had a great time in SAMURAI and managed to tie up 3 fleets of CFC for the whole night. our little newbro alliance obviously needs 3 CFC alliance members to watch over us.so go ahead strut around and beat your chest. Tell yourselves job well done. just keep coming back so SAMURAI have something to shoot. our newbros need the practice lol.

            December 21, 2013 at 13:56
          3. GrouchyOldGamer

            Hang on …. SS said they were coming to take Sov, they even offered LI3 a deal for them to hand over one constellation. What three weeks later they gone from deploying carriers to talwars?

            The only SBU battle LI3 handed SS their ass on their own without any help. After all the hurfing the SS line is now ‘we’re just here for good fights bro’

            That de-escalated fast.

            December 21, 2013 at 16:26
          4. ss grunt

            cmon gamer I know you have a sense of humour. no one realy thought that we were gonna come over here and start swiping sov from CFC.But we are doing exactly what we deployed here to do.And those talwars last night did exactly what we wanted them to do.Its ok we have plenty of other boats to set bonfires all over fountain with.

            December 21, 2013 at 16:47
          5. GrouchyOldGamer

            Hey, as long as people log on and make content I’m happy.

            December 21, 2013 at 17:29
          6. They were sent to Fountain to tie down a couple CFC alliances – looks like they snared a third in LAWN as well 🙂

            December 21, 2013 at 17:13
          7. GrouchyOldGamer

            Not sure it’ll stop them joining for the timer battles, although so far we’ve only actually had one posted timer op. Guess you’ll be able to judge it after a few timers.

            December 21, 2013 at 17:30
      2. GrouchyOldGamer

        Got a battle report link, I’d be keen to know what Marauders you dropped.

        December 21, 2013 at 09:31 Reply
        1. Fa winning eve

          Check -FA- Battle Report Forums. They lost 2 Bombers fleets worth ~3bil (around 80 bombers with some lol-pods) and 5 SBU’s worth ~1 bil.

          Marauders/Pirate BS on field were some Paladins, Kronos, Vargur and Rattlesnakes. Check Battle Report with pictures, you can at least see the Rattle, Paladin and a few Kronos there

          December 21, 2013 at 12:08 Reply
          1. GrouchyOldGamer

            I’d love to drop my paladins, this has become a thing.

            December 21, 2013 at 12:36
      3. Leicester

        Winning? I see you lost 3.33b in ships while only killing 1.55b?
        If this is your idea of winning, please continue!

        December 21, 2013 at 10:16 Reply
      4. cfcfaggots

        hey guys it took 3 of our alliances to beat 1 WE ARE WIINNING HERPA DERPA

        December 21, 2013 at 15:30 Reply
      5. Robo

        Leave to join FA has there ever been anything more retarded said. Gevlons articles make more sence than that.
        But yes congrats 3 alliances vs 1 smaller alliance.
        GG hero…

        December 21, 2013 at 16:57 Reply
  2. Yeah

    Was there a moment that anyone thought there wasn’t a bunch of other angles to this fight? Come on this isn’t the first CFC fight, who really believed that there wasn’t more going on, there always is. One thing is for sure they never come for “Gud Fights” they have a reason, or maybe several angles they are working.

    December 21, 2013 at 08:51 Reply
    1. my experience with CFC is that they start out “having fun” with GF and “casual deployment”. But they do always have other goals and plans in mind and when they get tired of whatever is going on they “officially deploy” and handle business.

      However, this time they are having issues gaining SOV, but its not really needed or really cared about by both sides. its all about the rental money.

      War is business.

      December 21, 2013 at 09:09 Reply
  3. southerner

    N3 propaganda at his best (or worst). What you tfy is the old tactic (divide et impera).

    December 21, 2013 at 09:20 Reply
  4. DrkyDrky

    My guess is that… (feel free to critize) the real Threat to N3 may come in the form of their new dread doctrine called “Omegafleet”
    Currently, N3 definately has stronger capital & supercapital supremacy over CFC/DTF. However if CFC/DTF are able to field AT LEAST 350 Arty Naglfars on the field, N3’s capital supremacy may well be threatened. The reason why? That’s enough firepower to Alpha a well-fitted titan from long-range. When that happens, the capital supremacy will shift over.
    [Slowcats are Mitten’s proposed targets, but the real targets may actually be Titans & Supercarriers]
    Sure you may say that N3/PL has like 200 Titans on standby to take down the dreads. But there are more and more Hero dread pilots nowadays on CFC/DTF side that are starting to tank multiple DDs. Eventually, 1 DD won’t equal 1 dead dread. It’ll be more like 3-4 DDs for each dread. The dead dreadpilots meanwhile have the ability to easily replace & redeploy to the field to continue Alphaing Titans.
    Time is on CFC/DTF’s side, not N3s.

    December 21, 2013 at 09:21 Reply
    1. GrouchyOldGamer

      The only real threat to either side is if the players getting too bored with five hour tidi fights they stop logging on.

      December 21, 2013 at 09:30 Reply
      1. DrkyDrky

        5 hour fights without any significant ship explosions are boring. But an 8 hour TiDi fight with lots of ship explosions (Ex. Z9PP during the Fountain war) can be very entertaining… for the side that is shooting that is. =P
        300 Omega Naglfars divided into 3-4 groups have the capacity to blow up 200+ Slowcats in 5 hour TiDi fights (30min non-TiDi) with minimum losses.

        There is clearly a difference between deploying 300 mixed ragtag LR dread fleet vs. 300 organized Omega-fleet.

        December 21, 2013 at 09:55 Reply
        1. DrkyDrky

          I’m more curious about what possible counters N3PL has against 350+ Omega Naglfars.
          Titans & Supercarriers might be a bit risky as can easily get alpha’ed off instantly one by one.
          Dreads (even CR ones) won’t work because CFC/DTF will likely have Dread supremacy at that point. Any opposition dreads will likely to get quickly alpha’ed off the field instantly.
          350 Slow-cats in close range can theoretically pop a dread in 15 second intervals. But 350 Alpha dreads may be able to pop up to 5 Archons in 15 second intervals.
          Seems like only mid-sized Subcaps (T3 Cruisers or Ishtars) have any real chance of dealing with Omega-cats, assuming they can survive against the other side’s Subcap fleet.

          December 21, 2013 at 10:06 Reply
          1. Mr Blue

            CFC had over 200 dreads in dy- and couldnt even alpha proper(deadspace fitted) archons reliably. what makes you think 350 5k dps LR dreads is gonna alpha supers.

            December 21, 2013 at 10:34
          2. op success

            its not about the dps its about volley damage, which arty has the highest

            the raw dps needed to defeat such large carrier/super fleets crashes nodes.

            the concentrated volloy damage from 100 nags and 100 other LR dreads on the other hand….

            December 21, 2013 at 11:51
          3. Red Orchestra

            Just FYI, LR dreads were kited by carriers just by moving 🙂 That happened very long time ago though, but I doubt tracking mechanics on dreads changed since then.

            December 21, 2013 at 12:27
          4. Robo

            It’s helps lessen the damage, but LR dreads can still hit commonly.
            It’s when say they have all range scripts in to get max range that the dreads may find a moving slowcat difficult to hit.

            December 21, 2013 at 16:53
          5. Red Orchestra

            Drop titans on 250km range from naglfars and DD every single one. NC. PL together can master full fleet of titans. Add close range dreads and more slowcats+supers on top of that.

            December 21, 2013 at 12:25
          6. Hian

            “Titans & Supercarriers might be a bit risky as can easily get alpha’ed off instantly one by one.” Really Alpha’ed of Instantly? Wow, Not only Alpha’ed but INSTANTLY Alphad’ed.That sure sounds scary.

            BTW, do you know what Alpha’ed off the field means?
            Anyway, Thanks for the laugh!

            December 21, 2013 at 12:42
          7. Robo

            Groups of titans at long range alpha a significant amount of dreads off field straight away.
            So let’s say from 350 90-100+ down straight away depending on numbers of titans.
            Then N3/PL various slowcats can drop on dreads as well as maybe another fleet focusing on objective, also close range dreads dropping in on cfc/Rus long range dreads, support fleets keep Long range dreads tackles and focus on hostile subcaps within distance.
            Cfc/Rus dread fleet gone. N3/PL may sustain heavy subcap loses and some slowcats, but will be the better off.
            Meanwhile Supers on standby if needed for additional tape of dreads/ to support any bumped titans etc etc.

            Gg

            December 21, 2013 at 16:51
        2. GrouchyOldGamer

          This is a very good point, Z9PP was good fun.

          December 21, 2013 at 10:45 Reply
    2. Common Sense

      The reason Omegafleet is terrible and the laughing joke of non-CFC space is that N3/Friends have dreads in addition to Slowcats. For the DY- timer N3/Friends had 150 dreads (and most of a second slowcat fleet) which they decided not to commit to an 8 hour slugfest on an unreinforced node.

      Even assuming the CFC/RUS manage to pull 350 arty nags together to alpha through Slowcats they get countered as soon as 150 Close Range dreads cyno onto them at 0.

      The Omegafleet Nag is buffer fit (no active tank) so that it can tank a doomsday, and has 1.9 million omni EHP. Sounds like a lot, but a basic “poor” fit Moros w/ T1 siege, T1 guns, and T2 Mag stabs does over 10,000dps (a non poor Moros gets 13,000)
      For the sake of our :math: lets use the 10k dps as our assumed line member..

      A Siege cycle lasts 300 seconds, during which Omegafleet can receive no remote support (IE reps from Das boot). At 10,000dps it takes 190 seconds to chew through 1.9million EHP and kill a Naglfar. That’s right, the close range dreads can literally free-fire the Naglfars, and by the end of their first siege cycle will have killed 1 and have the second in low armor. If that’s 150 N3 dreads, that’s ~300 Nags dead in under 10 minutes(two siege cycles), and the beauty is that with the long range fit the CFC dreads have half the DPS, and thus will lose every single time.. That’s assuming that N3/PL don’t decide to drop Titans and use DDs to put CFC dreads into structure for our dreads to mop up.

      December 21, 2013 at 10:21 Reply
      1. derp

        no need. with a full rack of drone links slowcats can hit LR arty nags. With super carriers to rep the archons. the Dreads are as good as dead.

        December 21, 2013 at 14:00 Reply
    3. goolaid

      Well.. Thats not gonna happen..
      But wait i take some kool aid..
      YES 350 Arty Nags!!

      Result.
      Oh shit N3 dropped 100 close range dreads on them
      and arty nags all died. Sad day ;,,(

      == its’ not about one fleet comp.
      Its about able to change your fleet comp on fly to WHATEVER.

      December 21, 2013 at 13:06 Reply
    4. N3 WarHQ

      I suggest you go to kugu and look up the new super slowcat fleet. You can throw 350 arty nags into that and you will watch them die. The omegafleet was a good counter to our slowcats but against our super slowcat fleet it has no chance.

      Read more here: https://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?44326-The-Southeast-Came-in-like-wrecking-ball&p=541864&viewfull=1#post541864

      December 21, 2013 at 13:52 Reply
      1. Sphere 3.0 FTW!

        December 21, 2013 at 17:09 Reply
      2. GrouchyOldGamer

        Super slowcat really needs to be called slowercat fleet…. make it happen please.

        December 21, 2013 at 20:26 Reply
    5. truth

      your math is off it took you 300 dreads to alpha an archon even lower tanked supers have 30x the ehp so you would need 1000+ dreads to alpha supers let alone titans, remember you tried that in dy- and got an avatar in to like 96% armor with 300 dreads LOL and it only takes 2 dd’s to kill a “dd tanked” dread or 1 dd and like 3 shots from their guns.

      December 21, 2013 at 15:27 Reply
      1. Guest

        don’t be retarded…
        http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20948420
        that’s not even close to the 300 dreads you’re proposing, 50 nags, 27 moros, 16 Revs to alpha an archon

        December 21, 2013 at 16:15 Reply
        1. GrouchyOldGamer

          My favorite thing about that kill mail is this one random Nulli guy who got on that NC. carrier kill mail with his bouncers. Just goes to show what happens if you don’t assign you drones and try to think for yourself:

          He also go on this Nulli carrier kill: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20946065

          December 21, 2013 at 22:01 Reply
        2. yeah dont be retarded yourself

          yeah more like 1 volley from 150 dreads. Not 300, but good luck killing supers. Your naglfars are going to get curbstomped after killing maybe 10 carriers and 0 supers.

          December 23, 2013 at 05:30 Reply
      2. Lol 300 dreads

        Ah, the failures of the modern educational system..

        December 21, 2013 at 20:01 Reply
    6. Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

      The hard counter to the 300 Nags is 300 Titans’ Doomsdays. Meanwhile, N3 bombers are carpet bombing the Nags with Lockbreakers. Yes a sieged dread is immune to TARGETED jamming. They however, are not immune to lockbreakers.

      December 21, 2013 at 17:14 Reply
    7. anonymous

      I think you overestimate the ability of the dreads to volley through supercarriers who when properly fit have well over 50 million ehp. As for the titans we have, any dread that survived the doomsday would die shortly to the titan’s guns since the dreads are in siege, have no local rep, and can not receive remote reps.

      December 21, 2013 at 17:19 Reply
      1. asdf

        To the CFC’s “credit”, it’s unlikely supers will be able to have 50 million EHP vs. their Omegafleet because you can’t expect CFC pilots to bring the correct type of ammo so you have to omnitank.

        December 22, 2013 at 00:01 Reply
  5. Necromonger

    This is one of those strange wars where we as CFC fight for goodfights…
    We dont fight for sov realy, rentals are a BIG +++ as its the future of Eve isk income.
    We have an answer to NCdot/PL supers, but we are not ready for that 100%.
    Its like in each war…..we get ass kicked at the start and once the war is well underway we make a turning point and shit falls apart for our enemy’s.

    Big props for N3/PL with their insane capital fleets, but once we get our shit sorted this war might end up like all wars we fought.
    We never wanted their sov……we dont need it.
    Its renters renters renters….

    The war will be on hold untill januari as most people go on vacation / holidays.
    I asume shit gets realy serious then as the only way to win this war is to drop retarded amount of dreads to 1 shot caps and supers.

    If we dont or cant drop those dreads then we might aswell take our ball and go home and wait till we can.

    December 21, 2013 at 09:47 Reply
    1. truth

      it took you 300 dreads to 1 shot archons, even the lower tanked supers have 30x the ehp of archons so you need more dreads than you can muster to 1 shot them LOL

      December 21, 2013 at 15:25 Reply
    2. Ex-Eve vet

      “once we get our shit sorted this war might end up like all wars we fought.”
      This may not be the war like all other wars. Tribute and Fountain were wars happening in one single region. In Fountain, most of the fighting were happening in the same pipe. Tribute was very similar. Those are wars CFC will always excel at with big numbers. The curent war is a multiple front one and as of yet, the CFC has not been very successful in that. If CFC fully commits in the south while EMP and Spaceship Samrurais (& friends) start grinding sov in the north and in Fountain, how will that affect CFC’s push in Immensea?

      December 21, 2013 at 15:28 Reply
      1. Robo

        Cfc would try and focus in south and retake what’s lost in west and north. Problem they face with that retard blob strategy is, N3/PL have 400 odds systems which are pinging back and forth at a slow rate.
        Cfc will lose a lot of renters and space them selves as well as burning FCs grunts out if they proceed long term with this.
        It’s already happening EMP focus on cfc renters up north and the west is open to samari or even Rus to take that swell of renters & space.

        December 21, 2013 at 16:44 Reply
    3. Robo

      Face palm o listening to grunts from cfc really is like listening to chalk scraping down a black board… Painful.

      December 21, 2013 at 16:40 Reply
      1. you do know both sides say the same thing. over and over and over again.

        December 21, 2013 at 21:21 Reply
    4. Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

      Then you might as well go home. Mittani thinks he can outcap the pros of cap warfare? ::laughs:: ::laughs again::
      The problem with Mittani is he is a noob at caps because the CFC never uses them. There is no substitute for experience and knowledge. We have imagined every type of cap warfare scenario and have made concrete strategies to counter such.
      Mittani thinks we have never imagined a large Arty Nag fleet? We have. Our various FC’s and alliance heads have been briefing the troops on how we are going to deal with Mitten’s Nags when they are deployed. Mittani thinks he has a big bat? He better look at it closely, it is not as solid as he thinks. So far, everytime you have deployed Nags, you have lost most if not all of them, we target them first.

      December 21, 2013 at 17:08 Reply
  6. hans742

    they stealing our renters? good morning. i said that when they deployed. i camp 2 old n3 renters get for 3 weeks now since they were in westernblablabla. Let´s see if they enjoy their camped goon space. i hope more alts will coming for their space.

    December 21, 2013 at 11:18 Reply
  7. superspy17

    Time to move my 5 cloaky alts to GWCPS space then

    December 21, 2013 at 11:42 Reply
  8. Tegiminis

    What a mess of run-on sentences.

    December 21, 2013 at 12:10 Reply
  9. lol

    War in this game has never just been about taking sov, war has been about the meta game, stealing alliance assets, infiltrating command structures of alliances and disrupting the means of income.

    This is the smartest way to win the war, N3 have a lot of renters, the renters pay for SRP, Logistics, fuel, etc. Disrupt renters and they will want to go where there is no war, they will go to the CFC rental program.

    As for spaceship samurai? They’re the kind of alliance that gets beaten by renters.

    December 21, 2013 at 12:27 Reply
    1. npc resident

      this sov wars is about RMT… fuckin idiots wasting ur play time for scrublords

      December 22, 2013 at 03:17 Reply
  10. Catch me if you can

    The problem the CFC faces is the mindset of most of us Stainwagon grunts. I know a speak for a lot of us when i say, that in the event that we lose this war and inevitably are kicked out of null if that were to happen, i would much rather side with N3 against CFC. Quite frankly, due to a collective garble of fuck ups that have been very unfortunate for us Stainwagon folks, it is likely to happen. I can’t see us failcascading per say, but the cracks are there and this self-entitled douchebag attitude which is strikingly similar to the elitist attitude of N3 without the leet is just making us turn against our so called ‘allies’ mentally.

    That’s just my two cents though….

    December 21, 2013 at 12:32 Reply
    1. N3 WarHQ

      Friends, we did not want this war in the first place. We do not want another 5 regions of space. We wanted to go to war together with you against CFC. There is still time for peace and there is still time to fuck CFC over. You can either go down with CFC or join us and take down CFC. All you have to do is to reach out to us.

      December 21, 2013 at 13:44 Reply
      1. Fucking over CFC is inevitable – this is rus rus we’re talking about :).

        December 21, 2013 at 17:05 Reply
      2. JIeoH Mocc

        We would reach out to you, but you set the timers to USTZ, and we’re kind of grumpy that late/early.
        Anyway, nice backpedaling, keep practicing it.

        December 22, 2013 at 11:52 Reply
    2. GrrNull

      As a stainwagon grunt I know what you mean. As much as the CFC goes on about BoB they sure do have an elitist bent of their own.

      December 21, 2013 at 14:15 Reply
      1. Robo

        Cfc is worse than BOB. Like a mutation of BOB & A piece of shit.

        December 21, 2013 at 16:37 Reply
        1. Legio Praetor

          I miss BOB tbh…

          December 23, 2013 at 05:22 Reply
    3. just saying, our leadership (CFC) are the elitist ones, not really the front line grunts. Well i just speak for FA but generally people are really nice in the CFC.

      December 21, 2013 at 21:12 Reply
  11. Lawful-Insanity

    Its simple. If rus rus would open there eyes. Theres plenty of space. Deals can be arranged. If ud just see the cfc is the real enemy. Wed give u space. We can fight eachother but not take eachothers space. More targets and no grind. Ud actualy have fun. And al u have to do is switch sides.

    December 21, 2013 at 14:21 Reply
    1. nope

      hmm I havent forgot a year ago who was busy looking for content……. as they were kicking me out of a region I ground sov out for. It wasnt CFC

      December 21, 2013 at 14:53 Reply
      1. Lawful-Insanity

        Ok and what alliance were you in when you were kicked out?

        December 21, 2013 at 15:55 Reply
        1. Robo

          Probably 1 that got no assistance from solar, or back stabbed by them in drones war.

          December 21, 2013 at 16:36 Reply
    2. RUSRUS

      So you blobbed SOLAR out of their home regions and now looking for help from them to fight CFC? Why the cfc should be the real enemy to RUSRUS? After posting wall of “RUCK FUSSIA” in local, there will be no forgiveness. Keep dreaming about VFK for the next few years. ~Bearing grudges~ for a long time is our roleplay in this game and we like it.

      December 21, 2013 at 15:12 Reply
      1. Lawful-Insanity

        Lol. First of all the wass of text thing. Let it go. Second of all im not looking fir help. Im simply implying that cfc isnt ur friend. They are already stealing you renters. But tbh i dont care what you do. Nonetheless im having fun.

        December 21, 2013 at 15:54 Reply
        1. RUSRUS

          First,

          “..the wass of text thing. Let it go” – nope, why should we? That wall of text actually was quite good for anti-n3 propaganda. Thanks for motivating 90% of Russians players against you for the next year or two. Very smart move from n3. *claps*

          Second,

          “They are already stealing you renters”

          and of course you are going to give me proof of that?

          the only thing i found is 10 ppl corp went from -A- citizens(and -a- is not even rusrus anymore) to Goon citizens.

          December 21, 2013 at 16:12 Reply
          1. Robo

            You make Rus look bad, you make them look dumb.

            This is a problem, send a diplo with ze brain please…

            December 21, 2013 at 16:35
      2. Robo

        Solar can go fuck, we don’t want their help, they are not worthy of their space of other Rus assistance even, since like cfc, when has Solar ever done anything for anybody but them selves, they can die in a ditch for all I care, could never trust that back stabbing bunch of self centres rmt haulers. As for the rest of Rus community logical decision would be to move west where cfc cannot defend multiple fronts as is proven from history and the war so far.
        Carving up the west for Rus would be easy pickings, and may even get to slaughter a few cfc retard alliances in the process.
        N3/PL don’t even need to work with Rus, Rus can just get space/income possible non tidi fights (every one knows are more fun) by heading west.
        N3/PL can soak up CFCs blob of fucktards I’m pretty sure, 400 odd systems for cfc to try an get through…good luck…

        So Rus have a choice of either being slaves to cfc/ padding of the killboard if N3/PL where ever defeated, whilst losing substantial amounts of renters to cfc pouch inch them as is the factual case of what they are doing to Rus. Join max tidi battles all the time.

        Or grow balls, head west gain more space for renting/ income and kill a few scrub cfc alliances off as well. Rus could get those renters in the west, it’s all easy pickings for Rus.

        December 21, 2013 at 16:31 Reply
        1. or you know, be slaves to n3. You never really now who to trust in this game.

          December 21, 2013 at 21:15 Reply
          1. Robo

            Well that’s the thing N3 and Rus are more similar than you’d think, neither wants to dominate the whole map, both would prefer to have fun and gfs. So Rus would not be N3 slaves at all, would they fight, yes that’s what the games about, content.
            This is where cfc sticks out like a sore thumb, they want to dominate eve, they do so for mittens rmt inner circle.

            Gg

            December 22, 2013 at 17:50
    3. the think the reason that RusRus does not want to go into a deal is because they will give up their independence and have (possible, depending on the deal) follow orders from someone else. Which is what is happening right now with their relationship with the CFC.

      December 21, 2013 at 21:13 Reply
  12. Digby

    wow.. gee, its taken long enough for ppl to see this 🙂

    Whoever thought Goons / CFC where / are here to help anyone but them self’s.. is utterly retarded. Goons will scam there Grand-mother and there mother if they could get some isk out of it.

    December 21, 2013 at 15:36 Reply
    1. Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

      You are absolutely right in what you said there.
      BTW, it is their not there to denote ownership and grandmother has no dash in it. Just saying.

      December 21, 2013 at 18:36 Reply
    2. Dinsdale Pirannha

      ISK????
      Um…this war is about real-life currencies, as usual.

      December 21, 2013 at 20:29 Reply
  13. Billbo

    People fighting over space that no one will ever use, This endless circle jerk still continuing in 0.0 more news at 11 Jim……

    December 21, 2013 at 16:11 Reply
  14. Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

    Everyone in the CFC is repeatedly bleating about their super uber “Omegafleet”.
    The cap noobs are going to school the cap “pros” on cap warfare, eh?
    The scenario will unfold as such:
    N3 Slowcat/ Dread fleet drops in on a TCU. CFC deploys their Domis and drops the 200 strong Omegafleet in at 150 km. N3 then counterdrops with supers/dreads/carriers at 0 with 200 Titans for even more support.
    CFC hits their Horn of Goondor and mobilizes everything they can lay their hands on. Meanwhile a 100-150 man N3 bomber fleet cynos in and starts hitting the Omegafleet alternating between Void and Lockbreaker bombs (A sieged dread is immune to TARGETED jamming, however they are not immune to stacking AOE jamming [i.e. Lockbreakers], a dread takes 30 secs to lock a target, they keep getting hit every 15 secs by the bombers doing runs by squad.)
    The 200 Titans DD the 200 Nags, putting them in structure, while all of the other caps proceed to mop them up (remember: sieged dreads cannot receive remote reps). The CFC Domi’s start trying to kill off the bombers because they are preventing the Nags from keeping lock or jumping out of system, and N3 subcaps are killing Domi’s. As the CFC caps die, the N3 caps start blapping the Domi’s off of the field.
    As you can see, it is not going to go well for Goons & Co.
    Mittens is about to find out, there is no substitute for knowledge and experience in cap warfare as this scene is played out over and over.

    December 21, 2013 at 18:04 Reply
    1. This strategy would never work, the node would crash way before it got to that point

      December 21, 2013 at 21:20 Reply
      1. Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

        True…. But the point is that “Omegafleet” is not the ultimate “I win” button that the CFC, or at least Mittens, thinks that it is.

        December 21, 2013 at 23:11 Reply
        1. I totally agree with you. I don’t think the Omegefleet will chance the course of the war. I may be in the CFC but i am under delusion that we are going to win this war. The Slowcat fleet is just too good at defending and grunts members just don’t care about RusRus

          December 22, 2013 at 06:36 Reply
    2. Homophobic John

      Having spent some time in N3, it goes like this. “Hey sweet we got like 40 bombers lets split into groups.” “Alright x up if you can use lockbreakers/void bombs.” “5 people. wee”

      December 22, 2013 at 18:02 Reply
      1. Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

        Well, I guess God’s BLOPs fleets have paid off. Isn’t that way anymore.

        December 23, 2013 at 00:17 Reply
        1. Homophobic John

          I still have a very active spy alt in NCdot. Its still that way. It makes me sad.

          December 23, 2013 at 01:53 Reply
          1. Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

            Not so here at Sneaky Bastards.

            December 23, 2013 at 02:48
    3. Chzy

      200 titties jumping on one cyno is a great way to welp many a Titan

      December 28, 2013 at 15:18 Reply
  15. RMTVACATION

    Where do you think Mittens, Vuk, and Imperian will have the 2014 barbecue?

    December 21, 2013 at 18:38 Reply
  16. Dirty Rotten Mad Noobtard

    So much CFC lovers down here 🙂
    Any non-braindead pilot knows that the only reason why we aren’t getting stomped its because of game limitations, if CFC could use their 300+ titans or/and their 600+ ms everytime they want this “war” would be over since 2 months already, thanks CCP btw.
    you all sucks N3/PL supercap fleet dick “wooha they dropped 50 titans whooa”, don’t think that CFC has a smaller one, cauz thats simply not the case.
    We’ll stomp CFC until they can use all of their pilots, as soon as they can, we’re all fucked.

    December 21, 2013 at 19:28 Reply
    1. Ur Stupid

      The Mittani even said himself that N3 has more supers than the CFC. Get the fuck out.

      December 22, 2013 at 11:42 Reply
    2. lol

      You’re a goddamn Space cadet Arent you? CFC will *NEVER* field supers against N3/PL because they know they would get such an anal reaming even their clones would have hurting backsides coming out of the vat.

      CFC are a bunch of scared pussies. The CFC supers are staying at home where they are, for now, still safe – i can tell you that much.

      December 23, 2013 at 05:14 Reply
  17. sup

    hahaha @ that gents recording. That dude has the personality of a 2×4.

    December 21, 2013 at 19:38 Reply
    1. Ex Gents/Ex Eve

      being in gents finally gave me the motivation to delete all my accounts so I’d never have to play that awful game again!

      December 21, 2013 at 21:58 Reply
      1. Congratulations on winning EVE.

        December 22, 2013 at 03:55 Reply
        1. Ex Gents/Ex Eve

          Indeed the only way to win is not to play 🙂

          December 22, 2013 at 19:00 Reply
  18. Haha

    Haha war ain’t even close to over and the RUS is already being fucked by the Goons. No really guys they’re just there to hold you because you know they like you and stuff.

    December 21, 2013 at 19:42 Reply
    1. Haha

      Help**

      December 21, 2013 at 19:43 Reply
  19. Dirty Rotten Sneaky Bastard

    “The enemy has been back pedalling” because the CFC will get mad I guess.
    Ya, us in N3 are really backpedalling very hard. We so scared Gent’s might batphone Mittens.
    We so scared, please don’t shoot us.
    They really will believe anything…hee hee hee hee ha ha hahahahahahahaha……….
    Morons…

    December 21, 2013 at 20:57 Reply
    1. laedy 3jane

      would that be the same enemy invading vale? Yes so scared I see. The gents pings and alliance communications lead me to think they are the ones scared.

      December 22, 2013 at 12:25 Reply
  20. lol, lets be honest here Space Samurai is awful and hasn’t done shit. So they are not a threat at all

    December 21, 2013 at 21:08 Reply
    1. GrouchyOldGamer

      Yep, not winning fast enough.

      December 21, 2013 at 21:55 Reply
    2. Someotherdude

      Let’s be more honest, they’re bottling up Li3 and FA keeping them in Fountain at 79% efficiency so far this month. lmao.
      http://kb.spaceshipsamurai.com/

      December 21, 2013 at 23:27 Reply
      1. well as an FA member i am more worried about gang bang theory. They are skilled pvp and are great and blopsing ratters. But yeah with the addition of Space Samurai they are keeping us here. Instead of fighting in a war i couldn’t care less about.

        December 22, 2013 at 06:40 Reply
      2. RandoCFCDude

        Let’s be honest — SS hasn’t been able to do anything in Fountain Core except throw up some SBUs and ninja incap some JBs. Anytime they form a fleet to go head to head they get whelped. They had to enlist the other alliances in Fountain Core (Free Gates / GBT / Sorry We’re in You’re Space Eh?) to help out after repeatedly getting stomped on. They threw an oracle / nado fleet with carrier support at a small Li3 domi fleet and got roasted losing all of their subcaps and a carrier. The only major ‘victory’ they have had was yesterday when they and Free Gates caught a small fleet out and whelped it.

        December 23, 2013 at 16:06 Reply
        1. Chris

          Except they’re keeping you in fountain. If you leave to fight N3, you risk more damage being done.

          And you’re fighting a group largely of newbies. Its like saying you dunked a brave newbies fleet. Nobody will take you seriously.

          December 23, 2013 at 17:03 Reply
      3. Candycrush online

        patting killboards.
        The butthurt way of Sov War.

        January 6, 2014 at 12:30 Reply
  21. Solar Overlord

    Solar has become the most important alliance in EvE. We are now in charge of this war and even control the CFC. Why do you think the coalition that we now run is called RUSCFC. Russian power best power. Soon null sec will only speak Russian.

    December 21, 2013 at 22:30 Reply
    1. Silly OP

      The way it should be. Well op, Nice spin, but welcome to cristmas time.. We`ll see you around when we are not drunk of Our feets;)

      December 21, 2013 at 23:14 Reply
  22. Ciaphas Cyne

    omg mittens is so much better at propaganda than you clowns. this is fucking sad! i can hear the tears through every sentence. by all means, write spin pieces, just get someone who actually has political acumen to write them

    also if goon space is so empty, and if they suck so bad, and if they have no numbers and no moral….why havent you invaded them in the 6 years theyve been making you bitch?

    December 21, 2013 at 23:19 Reply
    1. orly?

      pretty sure they are being invaded on 2 fronts as we speak

      December 22, 2013 at 00:36 Reply
      1. Ciaphas Cyne

        lemme know when u start

        December 22, 2013 at 01:46 Reply
        1. orly?

          So it begins *smug*

          December 22, 2013 at 23:30 Reply
    2. Jimmy Saville

      We touched you didn’t we

      December 22, 2013 at 01:54 Reply
      1. Ciaphas Cyne

        killboards exist for a reason! u can see if “you touched me” or you can see i used to be in PL lol. the only group i actually can say i have ever been mad at is old man gang

        December 22, 2013 at 07:26 Reply
  23. Jack

    I do like how Peach Tea doesn’t eve try to hide is bias. How is this news, this is an editorial.

    December 22, 2013 at 00:09 Reply
    1. Guest

      Everyone is bias. You would have to be a complete fool to believe otherwise. Not you of course. You are one sexy, intelligent, internet spaceship pilot.

      December 22, 2013 at 02:33 Reply
      1. Jack

        Everything you say is true my wise fellow capsuleer.

        December 22, 2013 at 03:02 Reply
  24. Indy

    yeah, this is a pretty bad attmpt to boost morale, the way i see it… its still a stealmate with a slight advantage to stainwagon and cfc, I spent years bitching about how powerfull the CFC machine is, hating it, buying into the propaganda that goons are evil and all, u know what? I joined cfc corp now and I’ve never been happier 🙂 things seem way better organised here than anywhere else, I’m no longer cheering for the underdog, I joined the evil winners and u know what? reading this, seeing as u paint a picture where the N3 is now somehow winning the war or is about to start winning… its really just laughable and I just hope that enough people buy into it so me and the guys here can shoot at them 🙂
    damn, moving my alt to curse as we speak 🙂

    December 22, 2013 at 11:29 Reply
  25. Lex

    Quality writing: I don’t know how to use language to make a point so I will just CAPITALIZE certain words for EMPHASIS.

    December 22, 2013 at 17:53 Reply
  26. droljica

    So that’s how goontard’s are “fully deploying” … with words :))

    Drunkard is calling shots from safe rmt heaven and idiots are following.

    December 22, 2013 at 18:27 Reply
  27. Sold

    Its about time for a spy to drop renter sov somewhere.

    December 23, 2013 at 14:15 Reply
  28. someone

    Wait…it took EN24 3 weeks to note the fact that this was a war for rental income?…Faux news indeed.

    December 24, 2013 at 21:54 Reply
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    December 26, 2013 at 03:17 Reply
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