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A N3 fleet was called to go kill some Territorial Claim Units that were onlining in F4R2-Q. From the intel I have received the –A- TCU had apparently be turned off and –A- was trying to re-online it. N3 noticed this and a fleet was quickly called in an attempt to take the system without any timers. Northern Coalition. formed a Rattlesnake fleet with triage carrier support, and  Pandemic Legion came in a Rohk fleet. It appears the rest of N3 were in an Ishtar fleet.

According to NCdot side the reps from the carriers were holding and all appeared to be going well. However, the NCdot fleet commander ordered the fleet to use their mico-jumpdrive (MJD). This put the fleet next to the enemy fleet; however they soon realized they were out of range of their carriers’ rep, stuck in bubbles, with a cool-down timer on the MJD’s. This resulted in a copious amount of Rattlesnake losses (over thirty at least). The end result was that the system was re-secured by –A-, and N3 had to withdraw due to heavy loses.

During such large fleets there are often many Fleet Commanders involved in the fleet, and while Vince Draken was one of them for NC., he was apparently dealing with something else on command chat when another FC gave the order to MJD. Vince came back to people broadcasting for reps that were never coming and reportedly told the fleet to stop broadcasting and die quietly. The summary of the fleet as told by Vince is simply “mistakes were made”.

I spoke to some members who were on the fleet, and they stated they were already close to the edge of rep range when the MJD was called for, and while it put them closer to the enemy fleet they were grossly outside their rep range and died in a fire.

I was not able to get into contact with the FC who gave the order (he was AFK at the time of writing), and it is unknown what prompted him to call for MJD, so I will not speculate. In summary, even seasoned FC’s will make mistakes from time to time, and while no one likes to whelp a fleet….”mistakes were made”.

Here is the EVE kill link, and the BR doc link:
EVE-kill
Dog-net

  • slo

    It’s possible a spy said to mjd.

    • Lolz

      Clearly AAA spies! Without out them, would of been a clear victory! lol

      • Me

        You’re making fun of the idea, but it would hands down be the most interesting reason…… but yeah probably not the case. But if it was, it would be pretty fucking cool, and pure win on -A-‘s part, or whoever it could have been.

      • Duh

        If Vince was FCing his backup was probably Alexander Jabez or Archibald Hornby lmao

      • anon

        prob ably the same guy who switched off the tcu. it was all a trap to kill rattlesnakes.

    • I did not mention the FC b/c I could not get his side of what happened. As I was not there, i did not confirm that it was in fact he who gave the order. I am going by what people in the fleet said.

      So, I just gave the BR without my speculation.

    • slow

      lol, it was a CFC spai, isn’t it?

  • Goonstorm

    80% of that report is sad excuses making it sounds as if that one event turned
    everything from a inevitable victory into a defeat.

    Yet, a lot more died than just 40 rattlesnakes.

    • It is an expensive fleet concept. That is why I focused on that instead of the other stuff that died. Also, the reps were holding until the mistake, so it is very likely the battle could have gone differently had they not lost so much.

      However, i never said that or claimed that the battle was going in anyone’s favor. All I said was the “reps were holding”.

      A lot did die. The fleet was a loss for N3, but the purpose of my battle report was about the Rattlesnakes, not all the other crap that died.

      You still got 1) how the battle began, 2) who won. The other stuff put in battle reports is usually propaganda or interesting losses. I found the rattler whelp to be interesting.

    • Simon pieman

      Where are there excuses? all i see was “mistakes were made”, that’s not a excuse that’s holding your hands up and admitting you fucked up, its nice to see.

    • Aonus_the_blaster_maniac

      seems like u know more about the battle. how bout u write ur own battle report and toss it in. That or stfu and quit bitching.

  • Duh

    An

    An N3 fleet

  • N3 Fails

    Keep flying shit fleet comps against the railgus, everyone loves watching N3 get slapped around.

  • Provi4fun

    You call that a battle report!

    Paragraph 1: Layout fleet compositions
    Paragraph 2: N3/PL were owning til a screw up, AAA got system

    Paragraph 3: Excuses…never Vinces fault
    Paragraph 4: Excuses…
    Paragraph 5: Excuses…

    How did the Ishtars, Rokhs and carriers die?

    • Because it was a battle? Stuff dies in battle. None of that is as relevant as whelping Rattlesnakes. Also, you got the beginning of the battle (why it started), and you got the end (-A- saved system). That is a battle report. I just threw in the rattlesnakes part because other then the battle itself it was the most interesting part.

  • AAA (is shit!)

    There was a bit more to it then that.

    Either way, it looked like pawnage to me! 🙂

  • dfsfsd

    but.. but ….but..

    butthurttt!!

  • awarenessudonthaveit

    Just goes to show what a bunch of shitty f1 monkeys NC. has bloated their ranks with.

  • Ciaphas Cyne

    writing fail

  • wolfe

    Was a good fight, who cares who wins or loses a good fight is a good fight. Every side wins and loses but it does seem eve news is very biased but hay ho.

    (also i survived so its all good)

    • TEST Grunt

      Since EVE began, only the winning side has ever ‘given a shit’.

      More than that, I’m sure N3 scrambled 600 people in caps, T3s and faction fit battleships just to get GFs.

  • JIeoH Mocc

    I wonder why there wasn’t a cap/supercap escalation. Didn’t we hit the right trigger?

    • Maybe people just don’t want 7 hour battles every night.

      • JIeoH Mocc

        either that or the thought that node won’t crush EVERY night to bail the supers out crossed someone’s mind

        • Lol. the node crashing only saved 1 titan. We had all the others out long before that.

          • JIeoH Mocc

            I’d settle for one for the first time.
            Next time might not just be one, eh?
            Making progress by admitting it though, cudos. The rest of your lot didn’t make it that far.

          • I’m a writer. Should I not be able to think independently of the group I am in?

            🙂

            The node crashing made so that we will never know if it would have been saved or not. Therefore the node crash directly saved it.

            Next time maybe the node gets reinforced and the battle will not take 7.5 house of slow motion fighting (if you call it that) just to have it crash.

          • pokeymcstab

            Do you like to write yourself into a hole? Wait no you just dig yourself into one.

          • no idea what you mean by that. ?

          • YOLO

            That one Titan was 55% armor had an additional 120 slowcats triage ready to jump in and save it. It was. It was very unlikely that the titan Would have gone down, would have been saved the same way every other Titan super was saved on field.
            Node crashing is Rus own fault for calling cfc support but it’s still a weak excuse as unlikely would have got that Titan kill anyway.

        • huraduraduuuuur

          Maybe if you mongoloids wouldn’t funnel 1000’s of people in to the system the node wouldn’t crash? Ever think about that? The node crashing was your own fault – deal with it.

          • Addrake

            you do realize that with the way this game seems to deal with objects, the real culprit tends to be carriers right? Even supers, so long as they don’t have a billion things in their SMA’s and Fleet hangars aren’t that bad. Carriers on the other hand with 1000 objects in their drone bays tend to fuck the server sideways when you jump even a limited number of them into system.

            It would be great for tidi if CCP reworked how the game handles drones in drone bays. Unfortunately you’d start seeing assholes with unlimited drones if they dealt with assets clearly client side until they were deployed on grid 🙁

        • lol

          dont call daddy mittens to save your asses every time n3 runs a rape train on you, with 1000 cfc members if you dont want the node to crash

        • Aha DTF cfc pet YOLO

          Don’t call in 1200 cfc if you don’t want node to crash your own fault fagg nuts.
          There’s always the option of getting some balls and fighting your own war instead of cfc propping the Rus/BL carcus up long enough for them to do intended before that carcus turns on its self and remembered old grudges and starts back stabbing each other as is tradition with Rus.
          Matter of time…

          • JIeoH Mocc

            No mad please.

  • Bird Flu

    NC. taking a page out of the Moist. failed tourney strategies I see.

  • broken kb’s are broken

    There’s something wrong with the eve kill/br doc links. Those only show 4 typhoon kills but there’s over 40 typhoon kills in the pl and ncdot kb.

    • Thank you for noticing that. I went back and redid them and it shows that now. Maybe when I posted it originally the sync had not completed between the boards.

      I have updated the links. Should be good in about 20 min. or so.

    • JIeoH Mocc

      The most accurate reports from the various killboards are from the Solar Fleet KB.

      http://killboard.solar-fleet.ru/?op=related&name=1210160

      • lol

        ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah they have the most doctered board next to goons and bl

  • Danny Payne

    To conclude,
    NC. making more excuses up and blaming everyone but them selfs.
    PL are as much use as a wet fart.
    Nulli’s ishtars melt so fast.

    • Simon pieman

      Again where is the excuse?

      “mistakes were made” is no excuse, the FC fucked up and they held there hands up to it, much like your hero elo did with the supers.

      The difference? There will be no cup in hand begging for uncle ruskie to bail them out with more caps 🙂

    • lol

      why dont you call daddy cfc to help more i love watching shit as 3rd party and laughing when everyone needs mittens to save their ass with his blob

      • BestLegion

        No issues megablobbing Solar before. You didn’t see them crying.

        Nulli you cry so much!

  • Some Dude

    N3 need some new fleet comps, the Lokis and Proteuses just arent cutting it against those Tengus because there mammoth tanks seems to trump all of the ewar bonuses the Loki and Proteuses get to Target Painting/Webbing etc

    They also need to start using slowcats with webbing backup like Solar did the first time when N3 got completley crushed in U930-A battle report here http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=16486575

    They would have 10 or so Lokis webbing/target painting whatever the slowcats are going to shoot next from 80km away, which generally would go logistics first and then dps ships 2nd

    Or maybe frankly they should just be super strict on logistics like at least 80 logis to a full fleet before they even leave for a timer or they dont go anywhere (but getting 80 dudes to fly logistics who prefer to shoot stuff would be pretty difficult I know)

    Stainwagon still have over 250 Stations to grind through which leaves plenty of time to change things around. But what do I know I am just a low sec Grunt

    • usobad

      they beat those shit tengu just fine they just have daddy cfc bail them out every day ahahaha

      • stainres

        OK. Whatever you say. The largest CFC involvement in a fight has been 135 goons in BS btw, for a titan kill.

        Clearly such megas bailed us out against the 0 subcaps N3 had on the field.

        • YOLO

          You mean 750 cfc megas 180 razor minins 150 Goon domis and assortment of cfc bombers is max we have seen from cfc support of Rus/BL so far. Amounting to about 1100.
          So where you only get 150 is beyond me. Closed eyes much?
          Or just choose to be ignorant?

          • stainres

            Please link that BR. I’m dying to know where 1000 CFC showed up anywhere.

          • anonymous

            They would have showed up if they did not crash the node trying to come in.

    • Digby

      N3 has become fixated with drones…
      They got shafted in butt-hole by the CFC in Fountain, and they are getting shafted again…

      Only when they wake up and field Mels, Rokhs, Mega or Typhons.. with real weapons will there fortune change.

      But, I think they will sink and become the latest Coalition / Alliance ending on the scrapheap.. cause they cant see how Drone-boats are killing there chances of actually winning.

  • Vlade Randal
    • Nync

      LooL…..
      It is a shame you need RZR/BL/Solar/Goons & all their pets to defend your space (ivade immensea)
      And for what? YES…a new Russian Botting Empire

      • Guy

        I hate to break it to you, but they’re not playing for your benefit. So what if they called in all that help?

      • stainres

        I’m sorry that NCDot needs Nulli/EMP/PL/WHYSO/DSP/HONOR/PANGU/FRATERNITY./NEXUS/INK/COW/ASH to defend your space.

        And for what? An old Botting Empire.

        See what I did there?

        • heh

          yeah, but no one really bots more than russians. That’s kind of a well known thing. It’s like making non-polish jokes at non-polish people and expecting them to be offended. It just goes no where there. Russians are botters, thats how they are and always will be.

          • JIeoH Mocc

            Nah, not really. after all no one bots more than ‘muricans/europeans. That’s kind of an old thing. ‘Muricans are botters that’s how they are and always will be.
            See what i did there?

            But do go on, please, you little xenophobic turd =)

          • Simon pieman

            Ha that’s like a joke made a little further up only not as funny, well done.

          • heh

            It’s not xenophobic to say whats true. The true xenophobic nature is that russians typically band together and they have inner circles that let no one in. So its bound for them to have what some people want to call stereotypes, however they aren’t. It’s just that theres a group of specific people that only band together and they are bound to have their own characteristics. The real Xenophobia is that theres russians out there who think they are better than everyone and have their own upper echelon group.

          • DDvet

            I’m Australian and I’ve had no issues flying for years with my Russian bros.

            You just cry to much. You represent the Nulli so well. A glass chin where you clowns run away from anything hard. Delve, the north and then the nice stab on allies as you sided with the mega HBC coalition to take AAA space (who was still fighting your war). The hypocrisy of you now crying about numbers is amusing.

            I’m just amazed that you have such difficult understanding why N3 is hated so much by us.

          • heh

            Not part of nulli or n3. However, after you are done with them, you guys are the next target, and I’m guessing you’ll be the ones with the glass chin complaining, whining etc, when you had the chance to take us out earlier. Already I see that’s not going to happen haha.

          • JIeoH Mocc

            Sound bitter about not being popular. Don’t worry, it’s a phase.

          • stainres

            I too am stereotyping an entire group of people “because.”

            And N3 wonders why we hate them.

        • LOL

          listing members of the n3 coalition to make it seem like they have more people fighting for them..funny but still propaganda… goons, fa, fid, razor, aaa, stainwagon, solar, solar wing, black legion and i could go on. so what dont you stfu and stop being mittens bitches

          • stainres

            You seem pretty mad that RZR, -A-, -DD-, SOLAR, and BL are in a coalition together and seem to construe it as a “blob” against a coalition. (What does that mean anyway? That individual alliances working against a coalition then makes it unfair as they aren’t a coalition?)

            Sorry we dislike N3, faggot. ))))

      • Aha

        Solar botting empire has began again in querulous. N3 allowed. Is an agreement -a- DD to retake majority of their botting empire without concern and then throw the agreement out to be a cfc porn.
        There’s deffinately something wrong there that Rus don’t want to admit but carry on demonising N3 if it makes you feel better.

        • stainres

          Why are you somehow convinced that all RUS do is bot? Is it an ethnic thing? There are TONS of botters in N3 renter space, it’s just what renters do.

          I really don’t understand your singling out of Russian renters as botters for any other reason than to try to smear an entire community.

          • heh

            It’s not that russians are botters because they are russian. But most russians in this game to tend to congregate together. This gives an illusion only that a specific race is a botting race. It’s not that its a race, its that its a specific group of isolated guys who do this. It’s not the rest of Eve’s fault that Russians prefer to live in Xenophobic isolation and cause what appear like stereotypes to emerge.

  • vinceisatwat

    if anyone else would of done that, vince would of kicked them from alliance, called them all names under the sun, they would of been accused of being awoxers or spies. This guy is the BIGGEST CUNT in eve. Honestly if i could punch anyone in the face in RL it would be Vince

    • YOLO

      Some people simpley cannot handle criticism, you seem to be one of them since Vince obviously called you a fucking scrub as you obviously have been a retard.
      Go figure bro the fuck up and don’t be bad end of.

      If Vince got to you then you got to be a retard.

  • NC grunt

    Mistakes were make. Thats NC, S2N colations motto for losing all the regions we have over the years.

    • Hubris

      No the motto has been fighting outnumbered, slaughtering the enemy but end game the blob wil always win as their is always another scrub to take the last ones place.

      Easy to be cocky when your the side that has significant numbers on your hostiles.
      You got to think Rus and most deffinately cfc wouldn’t even form if the odds were on the other foot. So credit where it’s due N3 are doing very well so far against DTF/CFC/BL.

      • stainres

        Someone doesn’t know RUS then.

        Also BL is in the DTF and the CFC is hardly involved. Please no more butthurt N3 posters mad that they’re finally fighting a force capable of fighting them on a level playing field.

        • Rofl

          Ahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaaaa a level playing field abahahahahahahabahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa

          N3 rarely fights on a level playing field and they are not doing so again.
          DTF/cfc/BL are as almost ever fight is showing outnumbering 2:1 so all that can be said about your oblivious belief is

          Abahahahahahahabahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa you kidding me right bro or does shit from ass naturally flow from mouth?

          • grunt

            Do you seriously count the 100-150 Goons a CFC coalition fleet? That’s pretty retarded.
            Also, it would take RAZOR, BL and SF (about 7800 dudes) to join SW
            just to come close to the numbers N3 can put on the field, otherwise, N3
            has a huge numerical (and ISK and supers) advantage over traditional SW forces: DD, AAA, Coven, DARKNESS, plus smaller alliances (Legio, STUDS etc.) = 9000-9500 dudes in SW coalition.
            N3’s got: NC., PL, Nulli, Whyso, INK, Darkspawn, The Kadeshi, Pangu, Nexus, RANE, Fraternity, JustPassing By, Spaceship Samurai, Beacon Light Alliance, HUN Reloaded, Moon Tribe, EON, Mildly Intoxicated, East India Co., COW, Caladrius, Ex Cinere, Trifectas and Insidious = 32,000. Even if only half of those alliances are active in N3’s war against SW, N3 would still match or slightly outnumber SW+SF/BL/RAZOR. Also, most of the alliances I listed under N3 were there for the fight last night, so it seems nearly the full 30,000 ARE participating. So please, don’t bitch to anyone about getting “blobbed.” If you end up in that situation, if you can’t fill fleets with angry nurds when you outnumber your enemy at least 2:1,then it’s your fault.

          • heh

            No one is claiming that CFC is fully froma political standpoint in the war. But they have picked a side already. Sometimes it does pay to step back and let others duke it out first while you provide enough numbers to seem like help. When things turn to the right moment, thats when you deploy for real.

            Think about it, it wasn’t like goons took on the entire HBC either. They waited until it collapsed. They waited because they knew NC. and PL would half ass it if Test half assed with their coalition. They wait patiently again just like they did before.

          • YOLO

            This is a guy who knows how cfc works.

            Rus/BL are but a porn in Mittens plan hate to say it but its true and obvious as well.

          • abc123

            Am I missing someing or does he mean PAWN. When I see PORN I think of other things other than EVE Politics. But hey – maybe he has Dreams of being with that TWINK Mittens. Oh well – to each his own.

          • Addrake

            I just assumed he was an idiot.

          • YOLO

            What ever bro use head or think of porn doesn’t matter to me.

          • Sigh

            Your soooo fucking bad. Soooooo soooooooo retarded.
            A coalition if numbering say 30000 does not mean that that’s the number in fleets.
            Now instead of looking at it in a narrow minded special needs kind of way.
            Let’s now look at it in a factual way.
            N3/NCdot/PL have shown they can pull around 1000+
            More or less same numbers that DTF/BL can pull in actual fleet numbers.
            That mixed in with CFCs at least 3 fleets they have running backs Rus/BL another 400 at least. Since it’s a normallity for razor to be running say zealots/mum ins etc goons and other cfc to be in a domi fleet as well as a bomber fleet. Now that’s just normally.
            However we have Lready seen cfc support Rus/BL with 1200 members.
            So you cN look at how many their is in a coalition all you like doesn’t change this as a fact.

          • Noobville

            Its not our problem you’re alliances are fat and tubby. Fact remains you have far more characters in those alliances and just cry alot and make excuses.

  • guess
    • guess

      cleaned the battle report up some, some NC. allies missing from nc. side of things, plus razor listed -A- side so shouldn’t rest of CFC also be listed that side?

      • stainres

        No.

        RZR is actively part of the DTF. The rest of the CFC was being shot by both sides

        • lol

          LOL what a fucking lie it is a known fact cfc are fighting with the rest of -a-

          • Victor

            Yes fact got to be dillusional to not admit cfc are backing Rus forces since there was even 1200 megas domis bombers and razor minins helping Rus the other day.
            Rus hate accepting that they are a porn in Mittens game so they deny it obliviously and pretend they would be successful without the massive odds given to them by cfc.
            Dad day for Russian honour.

          • stainres

            You are seriously retarded. No where have “1200 megas and domis” helped us. There were max 180 CFC BSs in system. The other 1000~ were DTF forces.

            Seriously, EN24 readers are some of the most uninformed people I’ve ever seen.

          • Wtf…is this guy talking abou

            Your seriously bad! You trolling or actually that much of a special snow flake.
            Infact there’s no point of taking your comments credibly anymore since I can’t confirm if your retard or troll o.O

          • stainres

            How droll.

            I’m still awaiting a BR showing 1200 CFC assisting DTF forces.

          • YOLO

            You really need to get spies if you can’t confirm the 3x cfc mega fleets 1x domi fleet 1x my in fleet and bombers cfc had in bound and supporting you the other day.

            Baddies be bad I suppose.

          • stainres

            Inbound fleets do not a node crash. All I know is the story amongst you tin-foil hatters is changing dramatically from “there was even 1200 megas domis bombers and razor minins helping Rus the other day” or “Well it wasn’t 1200 cfc more like 1100 cfc helping Rus/BL other day with wich caused the node to crash”

            to

            “CFC had inbound”

            Get it together, scrubs, and formulate a comprehensible story.

          • Derp

            Your so bad, a lot of cfc where already in system and jumping in, wich is one reason why N3 couldn’t jump their carriers in and node crashed.

            There’s not words to describe you, the closest is oblivious, thick skulled, special needs and a right lemons really.

          • Observer

            Well it wasn’t 1200 cfc more like 1100 cfc helping Rus/BL other day with wich caused the node to crash.
            But yea where fuck you get 180 from…
            Sometimes there’s no hope, I believe there’s no hope with a certain Stainres. Give up on you like a doctor would to a terminal patient.

          • stainres

            I got it from this:

            http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=24290

            Where did you get your numbers?

          • #mindblown

            CFC have never brought more than 200 dudes tops. Where the fuck have you ever seen 1100 CFC. Dear lord you peole are stupid. Local has never been above 1600-1800 in most cases and most fights are even, the only thing making them uneven in BR’s are bridging in reinforcements. The Cap fight was the only fight where SW had the major advantage and thats because N3 were told not to log back in.

  • Hour Glass

    The amount of chest beating from a Rus side who already equals numbers against their opponent. Being a porn to CFC whilst receiving substantial backing from them, deciding a gross odds stacking up against N3 with regular 2:1 odds at least.
    It’s all good an well putting N3 under scrutiny when you have double their numbers, it’s very difficult to lose when you outnumber your hostiles, however Rus with cfc backing have still managed to lose on a fair numbers of occasions.
    The way you can guarantee Mittens sees this is, N3 are their only threat, use the back stabbing Russians to attempt to dislodge N3 weaken n3.
    Mittens expects Rus side to either during the war or shortly after break up stab each other in the back, remember old grudges and bicker between each other.
    So cfc giving substantial support to Rus is only really securing CFCs botting/rmt/ratting empire.
    As Rus are no threat to cfc or you would not see any support from cfc, simple as.

    How the Russians lap up help from cfc to only play as a porn is quite funny.

    But back onto this specific fleet, yes mistakes were made, however Rattlesnake doctrine was being shelved, so it was a fleet were you use the ship to get rid of it. The intention was to lose the ship, but not quite in this way lol.

    • DrkyDrky

      When N3 entered the Fountain war, PGL once said:
      “The purpose of N3’s existence is to destroy the CFC”

      CFC didn’t start this war against N3.

      • Sigh

        PGL also punched Sort Dragon wich was funny, it point being PGL does not speak for all of N3 as was shown.
        So there’s one of 2 things you can do. You can leach onto a line of script and use it to manipulate and demonise, or you can get real and realise that there’s has to be war N3 naturally wage war they thrive on it, so in a sence N3 will always be a threat to cfc and rightfully so. As much as cfc likes to be risk averse likes to be safe in their botting/rmt/ ratting empire. It would factually be end game if they did not have an actual threat.

        • DrkyDrky

          Whine all you want about CFC becoming too big, nobody cept N3/PL cares and no-one is coming to save them

          If Asakai 2.0 occurs between CFC & N3/PL, we all know whose caps that SOLAR, BL, and DTF will be shooting at.

          N3/PL has no other major entity in Eve to save their asses, rather everyone else wants them gone.

          • Ohh tabu

            Although N3 are the lesser of evils the only reason they getting ganged on is they are the easier evil to deal with.
            Rus/BL. Doesn’t want to make the concerted effort to fight CFCs blob when they can fight N3 who with cfc they significantly outnumber.
            As is a regular occurrence a lot of entities within eve only take a fight if they can win it. N3 are the exception to this it seems. They will fight even if it’s not perceivable to win. Can call N3 dumb, however it seems they playing the game on their own terms, for fun. They combat the odds to stand up against the main evil in eve cfc.
            Rus can’t admit to doing that, out honoured by N3 must be hard for Russians to admit, but it’s true lol

          • stainres

            Please refer to N3s invasion of the dronelands for how “brave” they are fighting outnumbered.

            Also i don’t want CFC space, I want my space.

          • Lawl

            As has been told a number of time and of which does not change.

            Solar back stabbed some allies and let down others, they don’t communicate with their allies, they went from outnumbering to having equal odds vs n3 at the start of the war to losing their allies one by one.

            Not N3s fault Solar was its own worse enemies leaving them on their own.

            I can vouch for this since I was unluckily in Against all Anomolies at the time.

          • N3/NCDOT morons

            You see, the error in your thinking is this. Solar and friends didn’t have a side in that great conflict you wanted. But since they would not commit to your cause, you attacked and evicted them. If you guys were smart you would have let things pan out and used diplomacy to get what you wanted. But instead, you attacked, an entity that will never forget or forgive such a move. YOU DROVE THEM INTO THE CFC’s ARMS =P.
            You fucking idiots!!!!
            Seriously, you created this.
            How many times has it happened- that being your idiot diplomats not figuring things out, your leaders failing.

          • heh

            DrkyDrky… actually its the petty politics which will allow CFC to secure victory. too many Alliances with their own stupid beefs that don’t recognize who the real enemy is. If Solar and AAA are willing to fall for it towards N3 Coalition (NC. and Nulli) then the will have the same problems later once CFC turns towards them. CFC knows this, and they know Russians have a hard time staying together as well. CFC doesn’t have to beat Russians as they know they just need the Russians to beat Russians.

            Feeble squabbles are everyone’s worst enemy and the CFC knows this. Do you?

          • DrkyDrky

            Mactep had openly declared that they don’t give a shit if CFC wins EVE, as long as N3/PL ia dead.

            Again, Vendetta wins over petty morales.

          • heh

            Then CFC wins. I guess we can call it now?

          • DrkyDrky

            Yup CFC will win Eve.

            2 months after that, they will collapse.

            The best way to get rid of CFC is by helping them achieve their goal. Without any Raison dtere, large entities like CFC will collapse their own weight. Mittens know this and he’s very cautious about achieving quick victories over his enemies.

            Technically speaking, CFC needs enemies like N3/PL to survive. Maybe this is the reason why they haven’t launched a full scale invasion on N3/PL space.

          • heh

            True a blue ring can create a bad economy and there absolutely needs to be at least one last enemy in the front just to keep the game stable. However, it can’t just look like there is either… which is why theres 3, not just 2. Good eye.

          • WN Vet

            You choose to forget many things your self.

            True Solar blames NCdot/PL for helping xXdeathXx RA when NCdot/pl were contracted to help the same way BL have in the past.
            Russians have their own problems of taking matters to personally.
            However solar and friends back stabbed RA/xXdeathXx in the civil war anyway, again coming round to Russian back stabbing and solar only benefiting solar.

            Then Solar ambushed NCdot carriers and tengu fleet and started trying to Jew moons from NCdot.
            NCdot retaliated with evoke and slaughtered solar and friend who had equal numbers. Things die down.

            Fast forward Dotbros war, again Solar try hewing NCdot moons starting a second front against Dotbros go are already significantly outnumbered.
            Dotbros hold off both these blobs for almost 4 months.
            Then you wonder why NCdot took opposition vs Solar. It’s Solars own doing, karma is a bitch. Take responsibility for your actions.

          • DrkyDrky

            About a year ago. BL, SOLAR, & DTF would’ve shot at CFC because they’re the ‘greater evil’

            However Vendettas & thirsts for revenge is a much stronger factor than simply getting rid of ‘evil’

            For instance, PL/N3 made a huge mistake when they thought that baiting and popping 30+ BL supers would “teach them a lesson”. Now BL is only thinking about returning the favor.

            In Asakai 1.0, BL helped N3/PL against CFC with 50 dreads
            In Asakai 2.0, BL will likely help CFC against N3/PL with everything they got.

          • Yea Man

            No no no Solar never does anything unless it benifits them.
            They never helped Soco, they never helped Dotbros they never helped anyone but them selves, selfish greedy fucks in comparison, could only be measured in a sence on the greed factor with Mittens.
            Solar are happy botting/rmting an empire big enough to fuel their RL. This game is an actual living for Solar, this is what pays their bills wich is why they finally when it suites them form coalition with people they have a hard time currently not back stabbing. It benifits them.

            If BL wants to play with grown up they got to learn how to lose toys like grown ups aswell.
            They got baited same ways they bait people, karma is a bitch. Play the game or logg off upto you.
            Letting your bad decisions cloud reason is just a failing of BLs, their ego comes first, defending WPs honour comes second (what honour) and then reason comes last.

    • stainres

      I can think of only a single 2:1 fight N3 has ever taken, and that was in KW. Where against 1200 subcapitals they had 400 slowcats and 100 supers on field. And when the node crashed N3 had orders to not even relog.

      • Lawl

        Play more eve then bro or open your eyes. One or the other needs to be done.

        • stainres

          You must be delusional.

          • Observer

            Your proving ironically I might add that you are delusional son shine in everything you’ve said.
            There are certain people that do best when they don’t speak, your obviously one of them.

          • stainres

            You’re proving, ironically I might add, that you are delusion, sunshine, in everything you’ve said.

            There are certain people that do best when they don’t speak, you’re obviously one of them.

            ________________

            I think the real irony here is that a non-native English speaker just had to correct your post criticizing them for speaking. ^_^

          • Derp

            A non native English speaker had to correct another non English speakers spelling. Lawl you want to get any more ignorant?

          • stainres

            That’s, unfortunately, not a proper demonstration of irony. Please try again.

          • Derp

            Never said irony, said your ignorant.
            What’s wrong with you? There’s deffinately something no joke.

          • stainres

            *definitely

    • Goons your Daddy

      The rmting is true. Mittens holds the biggest coalition to ensure readers of his web site which he makes money from advertising. Real money is a much bigger motivator then isk which really means that there is no one other then ccp who cold break up the cfc and they would have to do it by force. The CFC is really all about paying mittens mortgage through his web site as well as the other isk sales which obviously also go on. There is the saying, no smoke without fire.

      • Damn right

        Amen

  • Alhana

    Yes we blobbed you and what? 🙂
    Cry and suffer the pain and humiliation

    • heh

      Until Alhana gets blobbed by CFC after the war with n3, and the he cries. lol. And no… not in n3. Don’t bother trying.

    • Barrier Reef

      Well at least your admitting to blobbing now as your strategy.
      But yes after the inevitable, either N3 or Rus/BL/cfc wins. Not gauranteed yet regardless of what chest beating goes on.
      N3 arnt losing, they are getting blobbed but they commonly fight outnumbered, many a miracle has been pulled off by them in the past.
      But when Rus/BL inevitably stab each other in the back during or after the war, grudges will be remembered and Rus/BLs role as puppet for cfc in this round concluded.

      • Alhana

        this is not your merit. It’s impossible to change lags by ccp and fix tons of drones 🙂

  • PLgrunt

    Nulli bailed on -a- in delve and left them to fight for their space (and fail) and now they apparently shockingly don’t have a stomach for this fight. Hell NC. reformed after they whelped tens of faction battleships to fight again outnumbered. Nulli couldn’t even bother mustering a fleet, so no, no round 2 on this one sorry.

    Don’t think I need to say anything else.

    • Go N3 :)

      Nulli been doing well. Anyone that fights against significant odds has to have a breather every now and then.

    • Digby

      I think you will find that -A- totally failed to turn up for fights in Delve. And Nulli decided that it could not fight it alone.
      During 2012 -A- went through internal melt-down, fleet participation was none existing and its FC´s where burnt out. -A- also, fucked over some long time friends for some isk.
      So when PL turned up with TEST, INTI and co… -A- just folded.

      • -A- Grunt

        Wow, what? Were you even there? We stayed to the bitter end, until all the turncoats left. I’m still here fighting. Not much you can do against the entire CFC, so we let them shit post in local then leave. All Nulli had to do was weather the storm and wait for goons to leave them retake their space like we were trying to do.

        • Hausa

          He’s on about when Nulli ended up fighting with their allies on their own and -a- conveniently went back to lgk- as they have done on soooooo sooooo many occasions before to as they like to say “we won’t play the game now, we will play it when your the other side of the map later on”

          • DDgrunt

            Yet we got far more kills than Nulli defending YOUR nulli space. Even RA did better than you clowns.

            You know Nulli is utter shit when they abandon allies, switch sides and then blame everyone but themselves for everything.

        • heh

          actually theres plenty you can do about CFC. you could stop the war with n3… put the petty bickering aside to take on your real enemy… or you can continue to be puppets and kill each other until the CFC wins this war. I’m betting you’ll do the latter.

          • -A- Grunt

            Yes lets stop the war that N3 helped start. Nobody cares that N3 broke the NIP by helping keep WLAR. Fuck N3 and their shit leadership.

      • DDgrunt

        What horseshit!

        * AAA had most kills of any group fighting in that war. Got the all time monthly record for most kills in EVE (beaten recently by Goons).
        * Nulli ran away cos it was too tough while their allies remained behind to continue fighting. AAA went down fighting losing all of its space.

        * The retards in Nulli cried daily for some delusional supercapital headshot on CFC/HBC thinking it would end the war fast. They lacked the stomach for a long grind war which the Russians have plenty of experience with and everyone knew was the only way to win against the odds faced.

        * So Nulli ran away..went north…got its ass kicked by the CFC alone …again ran away and came back south to invade the people that were still fighting their war.

        So yeah, no one cares about CFC. They didn’t invade our space or piss on us while we were down. Just a pity NC. flies with you clowns.

        • Former FAIL

          Truer words have never been spoken.

  • Murphmagictone

    This is classic. Ignore the winning side and make excuses for the losing side. N3 is clearly part of the obama administration.

    • heh

      I fail to see the analogy there. Is it because you are just republican and always want to insert obama into everything and you think it just automatically works?

      Believe it or not, it doesn’t. And I’m no “lib-tard” as you guys like to call it on the internet.

      • -_-

        ” Is it because you are just republican”
        Idiots on both sides not all republicans are dumb, not all democrats are dumb.
        lib tard == tea tard
        Wish America had more than 2 parties, that’s the biggest weakness, everyone votes for the “lesser of two evils” rather than a good candidate.

        politics on Eve news site FTW! ^_^

        • heh

          I’m neither party party buddy. I just think it’s funny how some people insert stuff that they like to talk about in there to no matter how irrelevant it is to just stick it in there and be like “ha, obama, get it? get it?” I could probably do the same thing for the other party… but it was a republican this time. I agree its stupid to talk about poltics on a game website, and thats why I call it out right away, especially when it makes no sense to.

  • bye

    Pandemic dot is shit flying non cap.
    And they win cap fights cause they outnumber ennemy.
    congratz, you became what you hated.

  • heh

    Looks like everyone is panning out well for the CFC right now. They are deploying just enough men to keep Stain Wagon in the war fighting and thinking they have back up for the mean time. This allows CFC to consolidate more power and isk for everyone in CFC with a more peaceful time while in the mean time preparing to eventually side with StainWagon in the end once both sides have exhausted more of their resources. With n3 out of the picture, that leaves just PL and Stain wagon to contend with. PL is easily bought and paid for… Stainwagon isn’t. However once the outside enemies of Stain Wagon are out of the picture, they do have their own enemies inside the coalition itself and that will eat them out from the inside. After this, there will be no one to stop the CFC.

    It’s funny to see that these other coalitions don’t even recognize who the real enemy is here. How easy they become puppets and used willingly to protect the CFC’s interests.

    • DrkyDrky

      PL will likely be removed along with N3.

      CFC already has a new legion they can hire. PL is forgetting that the real reason why they got so strong in the first place was because of their partnership with Goons against BoB during the early days. It is highly unlikely that Goons will give PL a second chance. Rather, Goons will continue to support BL until PL is no longer a threat

      • heh

        Possibly true yes. They could just have time be what puts PL out to the pasture. Good eye there. All in all, looks like CFC nullsec victory is coming about. So long as StainWagon and N3 are dumb enough to continue to fight each other, it looks to be a CFC victory at the end of this war. I like to call it a CFC victory not a stain wagon victory as playing a puppet shouldn’t count anything more than being a puppet. I think you’ll agree as well.

        • DrkyDrky

          Entities like SOLAR/BL/Stainwagon cannot win Eve atm; HOWEVER, they have the power to decide who can win! Essentially, they’re the Kingmakers.

          They have a choice:
          (1) Let N3/PL win
          (2) Let CFC win

          If you ever played a game of Risk with only 3 players left, you’ll understand that keeping the kingmaker happy is essential for winning the game. If you piss them off, they will kamikaze you.

          • heh

            Or… They could consolidate with N3/PL to beat CFC. If such consolidation happened, others from low sec and wormhole space would probably join in. Of course, being too much of puppets, they probably only think they have the king maker option. You probably are right that they are resorting to thinking this. CFC wins again.

          • DrkyDrky

            Or they can consolidate with CFC against N3/PL.

            In either case, such an act is the definition of being a kingmaker.

            However, there may be a way for N3/PL to get out of this mess…
            They would have to reparations to BL for damage inflicted against them & they would have to cecede at least 2/3 of their territories to SOLAR/STAIN.

            Both of which, I highly doubt would ever happen.

          • DrkyDrky

            *pay reparations to BL for the Supers & dreads they recently popped & more.

          • heh

            Yeah, plus theres too much bad blood between AAA and Nulli anyways. Just wouldn’t work out. Plus I don’t think even paying for BL would do anything anyways. What interests me more is figuring out what is going to happen once this war is over and one of the sides is completely out. Too much expenditure of resources will secure a victory for CFC. But what happens after that? What will really happen once the blue ring is achieved?

            Also is it really achieved? All these coalitions that have died before have to go somewhere and reconsolidate again you would think? What would be the next entity?

          • DrkyDrky

            Then all we have to do is wait & see instead of criticizing certain groups for a taking a side in this conflict.

          • heh

            Well I’m personally not criticizing. Just simply calling it like it is. Knowing you have an enemy that needs to die first, and you choose to kill the one thing that can help. It’s something to think about and I do like to think about it. I just figured there would be more alpha rather than beta personality coalitions in this. I guess I’m wrong.

          • DD-Grunt

            Then there will be a new war. Darkness of Despair was not created for peace. By the way this was the first and main reason of current war.

          • Atoll

            Too much bad blood between -A- and Nulli? All the people Nulli blamed for abandoning them are unironically in PL.

          • Yea Man

            Solar where offered cfc space in Dotbros war if they supported the war effort. Solar chose to lose their space due to starting a second front on Dotbros.
            Then solar was offered a agreement for them to keep a certain amount of their space if they were not a pain to N3 they again rejected.
            Morale of the story is things could have been done differently even if solar was given space back they would still back stab, it’s tradition for them.
            Solar looks out for solar, greedy fucks wich is why they can never be trusted long term, they will always as is proven make the decision that suites them short term. Blind beyond a months vision.

          • Guy

            Is this the way you go on about most alliances that don’t join your side?

          • Yea Man

            The truth is the truth how ever you wish to peddle it. N3 is open about its need to create content, whilst cfc is open about its want to not create meaningful content so go figure.

          • Guy

            Do you think that ncdot and PL have issues with keeping coalitions together? Also why is n3’s version of meaningful content better than the CFC?

          • Wutm8

            What sort of revisionist history is this? NCDot attacked SOLAR assets in geminate BEFORE starting a war with Goons

          • DD-Grunt

            Oh yeah. Consolidate with an old enemy to fight someone Stainwagon do not care about. Not even mentioning N3/PL did not really want to fight CFC as they said during ‘prewar’ negotiations between leaderships. Great idea.

          • AAA

            I guarentee all stainwagon hates goons also haha

          • eheheh

            id rather biomass then side with n3/pl scrubs. I want to see PL lose their shit, and unsub. i want to see gorga renting from russians, in some spacegutter in droneregions. i wanna see PL where Red is now. Who cares about winning Eve, if those objectives are met.

          • Kirk Otsito

            Where did Pl/N3 touch you? Also u mad bro? =]

        • Necromonger

          CFC will and cannot be beaten in Sov war or a head to head war.
          1 ping brings 2500 combat pilots online and god know how many sub / capitals on standby.
          Altough they do not use supers as much anymore but instead have a free dread skill plan setup for quite some time.
          No1 knows how much people trained dread / cap for free, but expect the numbers to grow and grow each month passed.

          PL/N3 know they cannot fight the CFC and even with a Test Alliance 2000 dudes it was imposible to hold the CFC back.

          CFC can only impode from the inside out…..but the structure is near damn perfect and all members of CFC are happy how things are going.
          Each has their own freedom to deploy and set their own rules and identity.

          No elite atmosphere, just people who like to play eve and have fun.
          They offer so many contend with diffrent groups like Black ops / free roaming / Wormhole stuff / etc etc etc

          No other coalition seem to offer what CFC does -_-

          The enemy’s of CFC seem only to think ELITE with high skill points.
          Attacking the weaker parts of Eve Nullsec instead of aborbing them to create a counter to CFC.

          CFC aint going anywhere for the next years, and if CFC decide to enter with full deploymeny with Stainwagon then ye Eve is as good as dead in nullsuc.

          This is not the CFC’s faulth tough, i blame the elite faggots with their king of kings synndrome who dislike lesser trained pilots and feel good about trashtalking down to “lesser” alliance’s.

          I think NC. will lose all their space in the end as they always do.
          PL prolly goes nomadic again taking some shit space somewere
          Nulli will prolli go back to FW

          East = Russia
          West = CFC
          Eve biggest blue ball ever seen.
          Goons won Eve already.

      • Duh

        PL hasnt been a threat since the 30k dudes of the budding HBC coalition vanished. They can have the best and brightest FCs and the most brilliant strategy with the biggest supercap force ever assembled but time and time again it has been shown that butts in fleets wins sov wars.

        And goons can and will grind that shit in stealth bombers if they have to. (Or wanna make you really mad)

        • heh

          Indeed true.

        • DrkyDrky

          The political situation in Eve has changed drastically. PL turned from group adored by many to a group that everyone wants it destroyed.

          One false move by PL will lead to destruction of most of their supers that took years to build in a single battle. When PL was liked by many, PL could simply batphone others for help if they got in a pinch (eg. Asakai). But the only contact number they have nowadays is N3’s. Everyone else would jump in at the opportunity to shoot at PL’s supers.

          In addition, CFC has recently put strong emphasis on mass producing dread pilots. I think the reason for this should be fairly obvious.

          Sure it’s true that PL & NC. has a large Capital fleet. However, CFC, SOLAR, BL, -A-, -DD-, and other anti-PL forces combined has a HUMONGOUS capital fleet. If every capitals were thrown into one battle between these two opposing forces, PL will go bankrupt after the battle.

          • damian

            exactly

    • Duh

      Stainwagon or any russians for that matter would never ever want or be able to hold the north. So any lamentation about why oh why doesnt the Rus fight the CFC is fruitless. The CFC has permanent enemies that will never ever change whether they hold space or not.

      They still have a giant supercap blob. Thats gotta be good for something more than hubris dunks.

      • heh

        Not what I was referring to at all. You don’t have to hold the space of an enemy thats planning to take yours. But you do have to destroy that enemy before they destroy you. I just want to know why you want to give them an easy shot at turning all your space into rental territory. Thats all I’m asking.

  • -DD-

    Please do not mention words blobbed, outnumbered etc. We are still in the phase were fleet numbers are rather equal. Whining won’t help to win this war, we all (both sides) need to fight like it’s a last stand and die in our ships like heroes. Then this will the biggest and toughest confrontation that EvE has ever seen, isn’t something that we are looking in this broken game?

    • heh

      Probably will be the biggest war and maybe the last biggest one too. Afterwards the blue ring will start coming more and more of a reality.

      Soon the only red space left will be Providence… properly named region for this event that is to come when you think about it haha.

    • Me

      numbers are rather equal?

      I think you misunderstand what the word equal means if you think 650 versus 850 is a equal number.

  • the boy

    goddayumm the n3 narrative of spartans

    having like 100 dudes less and a shitload of slowcats in return is like saying “I was fighting outnumbered” while fighting 2 frigs in a battlecruiser

    • Ha

      If you got the balls to put caps and super caps on field then fair play. Especially when Rus/BL/cfc significantly outnumbered them in the later part of the fight. There being 3 additional cfc mega fleets jumping into system to the already placed Domi fleet mining fleet and bomber gang cfc had in system. We sent talking about 100 as the difference as you very well should know.

  • na

    Nulli didn’t form coz it was carrier rat Saturday.

    • Guy

      Seems like it was exploding ratting carriers Saturday, to be honest.

  • DrkyDrky

    You folks can whine all you want about how CFC will win EVE if RusRus doesn’t go over N3/PL’s side.

    But the matter of fact is that destroying N3/PL is much important to RusRus than petty ideals like stopping CFC from achieving their goals. The vendetta & bad blood that RusRus have against N3/PL is simply too much. They have no ill feelings towards the CFC, but are instead welcoming their assistance against N3/PL.

    Whine all you want, it will only strengthen their resolve.

    • heh

      No one really gives a crap about either side in this war. They only care about the fact that theres 2 dumb ass coalitions who can’t figure out they are puppets.

    • haha

      thats what you think you sap russian hate CFC GOOOooonfags always have, always will.