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There is a commonly cited problem with EVE: that all decisions are made in “smoke-filled rooms” between the same 10-15 people and no new players can enter into that arena. Have you ever considered why?

Before we’d continue, I’d like to point out that the above isn’t true. Every single player has chance to get into practically every alliance/coalition if he is persistent enough and by being there, increasing the options of the alliance leadership. If suddenly 10000 people would recognize that his true home is SOLAR fleet or Spacemonkeys Alliance, the map would change radically.

But there is a layer of truth in it. You won’t be the next The Mittani, Montolio, Vince Draken, Elo Knight or Shadoo, no matter how hard you try or how skilled you are. If we consider the infamous fails of some of them, it is surprising. I recognized the problem when I’ve read about the alt-gate. The answer “why can’t you get into the smoke filled room” is the same as “why can’t you be the next Chribba”.

I’ve been playing EVE for almost two years. I’ve never ever scammed anyone. I am pretty upfront in what I believe, no matter what others think. Yet I couldn’t start a supercap escrow service, even if I’d have much lower rates than Chribba.

The answer is “trust”. It’s not mathematically quantifiable. My scam rate is the same 0% as it’s for Chribba. Yet no one would believe me. Or more correctly no one would give me a chance. Why? Because Chribba is already there and he has proven himself. He took the position of “trustable guy” and until he leaves it, there is no other spot. It’s similar to being married. As long as you are OK in your marriage, you don’t even consider if others would be better and your wife could be replaced with gain. It only happens if your marriage is awful.

It doesn’t matter how hard Vince failed with the Falcon and how hard Elo failed when a total stranger sent him a screenshot of a PL titan with “PL Spy” literally written on it. It doesn’t matter that in these situations a 4x Civilian shield booster fit Mackinaw miner would have made a better choice. Unless they do something that makes them totally inacceptable, they stay, because they have already proven their loyalty to their group. They will not awox or steal. They earned the trust and no one gets a chance until they remove themselves from their position.

It’s not the same in the real world business. You don’t stick to the same shop until it closes or starting to sell absolutely inacceptable products. You try out other shops when they are nearby or if they have a sale. You try out new video games even when you are satisfied with your current one.

The reason is that the society enforces a level of trustworthiness on everyone. The other shop I try might have rude employees and low quality wares. But it is surely not like the shop in the Pulp Fiction where people are kidnapped into Zed’s torture chamber. They also won’t rob me and even if they sell me faulty products, I will be able to get a refund from them, because the law says so. The other video game might be lame, but surely doesn’t contain spyware. A level of decency is guaranteed, therefore I can safely try out others.

In EVE, it’s not true. Sure, X might show better judgment than Vince in the Falcon issue. But X might also be a Goon spy and Vince is surely not. X might lead our whole super fleet purposefully into a trap, while Elo only does it when he fails. X might rob anything and everything I had in the game, publish my chat logs, mails, lingerie pictures I carelessly sent him and my IP address and e-mail from the mumble server allowing people to find me in real life. There is no limit how much damage X can do to me in the game and the only thing I can do to prevent it is not trusting anyone who isn’t totally trustable, no matter how incompetent and annoying he is. Vince, Elo, Mittani and co have proven themselves in this aspect towards their group and no one in his right mind would risk a change.

Your options in EVE – unless you joined with an out of game group – are:

– Playing alone.

– Be the F1-monkey of people you know to be incompetent and asshole, but at least not spies.

– Limiting yourself to frigs and bombless bombers, so you cannot lose anything you’d care for.

If you want EVE to be somewhat social game, you need to establish some basic level of trustworthiness. I do not want (and due to alts cannot) remove spying. But the list of things needed to prevent a single guy destroying everything that thousands have built are bare minimum to make EVE grow.

Until it is implemented, the only real option besides the three above is what I’m building now: a loose cooperation of solo players who share a common goal, share information but don’t share their assets and don’t follow orders.

– Gevlon Goblin

  • James D.

    This is ridiculous. New coalitions and leaders pop up all the time. The leader of Brave Newbies just stepped down, and the guy who is replacing him, as head of a several thousand pilot organization, was not even playing the game until 2 years ago. You can achieve whatever you want to achieve in EVE, you just have to work at it.

  • l3t

    consider these powerblock wars people falling out of grace from the smokey back rooms.

  • Duh

    This was ghost-written by The Dark Lord himself and nothing happens in EVE without his permission.

  • Jxnen

    When u realize it is GG story = stop reading. Dont know what the article ended beign but im sure im better for it.

    • Laughmypantsoff

      Make eve more like wow is how it ended.

  • Budnacho

    *Good Lord*

    Ok Glevon, since your Dad never had this chat with you I’ will and I’ll take the role of him. Come over here and sit down son. Comfortable?..good.

    Like life, EVE is what you make it. You CAN be any of those positions with dedication, hard work and the support of a group of trusted corpies that will lift you on their shoulders and push you to greatness. IT’S ALL ON YOU to do this.

    This letter of yours smacks so desperately of “But mom, I’m a cool kid too, why wont the other kids play with me?….I’ve got the Hot-Wheels Track and a nintendo and have all the cool toys!”…

    You think you’re cool because YOU think you’re cool. But Coolness and respect Glevon is bestowed on you by others. Some of us will rise to be a leader, some will rise to be a comedian or source of humor or intel, some will become captains of industry…And some will be relegated to sitting in the corner with one mis-matched sock down on their velcro-laced shoes and have to adjust their retainer through a minefield of zits as you repel women faster than a fat-man eats through a buffet.

    That’s you Glevon. You’re the nerd sitting in the back that thinks because you watched the Matrix and went out and bought the EXACT same coat Keanu had on and you’ve seen all of Jackie Chan’s movies that you are THIS-close to knowing Kung-fu and that with this amazing repository of knowledge YOU are now NEO.

    Doesn’t work that way son. Your mother and I will love you always even with your obvious malfunctions, but you need to remember that some will lead, but most will follow. Whining about it just makes you look sad. Now go back to your hole….your mom’s put on my favorite flannel-night gown and she shaved her legs 3 days ago….I want to get in on that action….

    • Dirk MacGirk

      That’s the best reply ever. I’ve stopped commenting on silly GG posts (which is all of them) out of protest. But had to reply to this comment to give it a thumbs up.

      • Jaime Gomes

        I just skip to the comment section. More entertaining and intelligent.

    • Simon pieman

      Absolutely genius +1 sir

  • sorbet

    Will someone PLEASE play with Goblin…he’s lonely

    • Billbo

      Someone send him to church ffs.

  • Bawk Bawkbagawk

    i dont need to be the next Chribba. knowing that i am not the next Glevon Goblin is enough for me.

  • Billbo

    Jesus, just when I thought the bar couldn’t get any lower with his artcles.

  • reality

    tbh, finding a good corp reduces much of these problems he talking about.

    • Surloc

      Some what, but given the way the corp roles work it’s hard to keep one bad actor from ruining everything. Unless of course all corp roles are only in the hands of people who have been around for years or real world friends. In which case advancement is near impossible for a new comer. The other option is to just not have too many assets in corp hands. All of which really goes back to Glevon’s point.

  • Kitty Baugh

    Why do you have this fascination about trust? Why do you want CCP to take the sandbox, empty all the sand and take a giant shit in the middle? Because lets face it no matter what in game things make it a sandbox the people are the true defining feature of EVE’s boxy sandy nature and if you force trust then it becomes bland, if you force trust then highsec ganking would no longer be a thing nor would any backstabbing interesting wars in nullsec. Human trust, or the lack therein, is in my opinion one of the most unique and interesting parts of the game. Also because the main thing that needs to be on a gg comment is an insult, you are a wee bit stupid.

    • Soulxlight

      You just have to look at ever other game that comes out, promising everything under the sun then fails within a year to know that what Goblin is asking for would ruin Eve forever. Sure Eve has problems, but trust isn’t one of them. Sometimes, I wonder what Goblin really thinks when he post . . . seems he wants Eve to be more like the game he came from . . . WoW.

  • Provi Miner

    I agree, No matter how much you do there is no way 50 people are going to follow you into a PL trap, and laugh it off unless your name is elo. Wins, loss’s, value nothing matters at the top tier. Elo could welp supercap fleet after supercap fleet and no one would care. Why? because it’s elo and he would never be a PL awoxer. This blind faith, this undeserved trust is something I have a problem with as well. I start with trusting everyone till proven otherwise (which happens with amazing regularity). However I also don’t trust with “stuff” I can afford to lose. In otherwords if I had a super cap and couldn’t afford to lose it, There is no non-item (isk, ships blah blah) incentive Elo could ever give me to make me fleet up with him. Till the player base says sandbox time (in which trust no longer matters) and keeps insisting on “blind faith” there will be no room for people to move into that top teir on their own. Instead they almost have to be “annointed” to be allowed into that smoke filled room.

    • Gothic Light

      ” In otherwords if I had a super cap and couldn’t afford to lose it,
      There is no non-item (isk, ships blah blah) incentive Elo could ever
      give me to make me fleet up with him.”

      To be perfectly honest, if you have a supercap, you CAN afford to lose it. Here’s why.

      1. They can’t go in any “safe space” so just by having it you are always putting it at risk in one way or another.
      2. Supercaps are pretty much only useful to alliances involved in sov war, you use them in fleets for a very specific purpose (dealing with the horrible dominion sov system). They have been nerfed to the point that using them for PvE is pointless.

      What else are you going to do with it that won’t put it at risk (If you say poco bashing I’m going to just laugh at you)?
      Why did you buy it to begin with if you didn’t want to use it?

      If you are going to use it for pvp and not trust one of the best FC’s in the game instead opting to use it yourself for hotdrops, how long before that FC or someone like him hunts you down and kills your super? (not long mate, not long)

  • GrouchyOldGamer

    I’ll just leave this here as a testimonial to the prescience of Glevon – http://evenews24.com/2013/06/07/the-first-and-last-mistake-of-the-mittani/

    • Matthew

      Gems such as this, “The Mittani is history. I doubt if the new war slogan “Nice region, we’ll take it” will be accepted by Goons.” have cemented GG’s reputation.

      • GrouchyOldGamer

        As a Goon all I can say is I don’t need a tall tale to fly somewhere and fight I get a 100% SRP and the best comedy fleets in Eve; good enough for me.

        • LOL

          One funny thing about the goons is that they always say they get “100% SRP” as if every other single alliance in null sec didn’t also get the same. You have to feel sorry for the goon grunts I think their leaders really have them thinking they are special cos they get SRP.

          • Kitty Baugh

            Cult of war gets like 80% jita hull price three months after you lose it.

          • Soulxlight

            Black Legion gets 0% jita hull price on anything but T3s, but we’re Men and don’t need SRP to fight.

          • GrouchyOldGamer

            Just capitals … oh wait. 😉

            Just kidding always like to see what bl are up to, Elo is a nice guy.

          • GrouchyOldGamer

            Is comprehension hard? I said I get 100% SRP an comedy fleets, I made no comment on what others get, because I don’t care. You on the other-hand seem to care very much.

  • Surloc

    Wow this is the best Glevon post I’ve ever read. Or did I miss the troll?

  • Bawk Bawkbagawk

    last comment i will make on a post by this fuck-wit: the reason Goblin is still on en24 is that he consistantly gets 2-3x more comments on his crap than anyone else. the fact that we are trashing him means nothing. the potential advertisers like to see us pausing on a page, returning multiple times etc. so he is money in the bank. stop commenting and reading and he will fuck off.

  • lol

    “Every single player has chance to get into practically every alliance/coalition if he is persistent enough and by being there,”

    wow you couldn’t make it 3 whole sentences without being wrong this time.

  • Lux0r

    I love how you project your own failure on to the community at large. Those might be the only 3 options you see as available to you since you’ve isolated yourself with your holier than thou rants from on high. These are by far not the only options available for those of us who know how to EVE. It’s not all about software and new mechanics, what makes EVE what it is, is the meta game and those relationships built on trust you forge over the years.

    To sit there and state that in your ‘almost 2 years of playing EVE’ that this is all that’s left shows your flawed thinking in how this game actually works. Hell, you’ve even given up before you’ve even really started to try.

    Which to be honest, would be a blessing if you did just give up completely and leave those of us that do enjoy the effort from having to be submitted to your ramblings or attempts at rationalizing EVE into some sort of Gevlon Goblin preconceived box of rationale you’re always trying to cram it in to.

  • Piwate

    This is so untrue, that i cant believe you had posted it after 2 years playing this game, seriuosly.

    Yo are only watching it by the 0.0 prisma…, there are whs and lowsec systems outhere where small groups can be built, and where their actions matter the same as those 15 poeple in 0.0…

    But, keep believing all the fun and importance is in 0.0, 30%of EVE dont give a fuck…

    • Ur Stupid

      99.9% of eve don’t give a fuck. 0.1% is GG.

  • Eternal Corrosion

    “Until it is implemented, the only real option besides the three above is
    what I’m building now: a loose cooperation of solo players who share a
    common goal, share information but don’t share their assets and don’t
    follow orders.”

    I share all my assets in a wh, no fear, i know who i can trust, thats the beauty of EVE, to find a group you can trust and have fun with them, sometimes you will understand it, little goblin

    • Eternal Corrosion

      someday*

  • Phun

    Here is a real tip for you Gevlon.
    Buy a new pilot,
    Join some ls or 0.0 corp,
    Dont tell them who you really are

    Enjoy Eve

    • Guest

      You forgot the “keep your mouth shut so they may give you the benefit of doubt about your idiocy”

  • Goblin is butthurt

    Look at the leader of Brave Newbies, Matais, one of the most successful first year players. Yeah, they aren’t super relevant, or god like pvprs, but they’ve had an amazing 1st year. Imagine what they will be like in 5. Even the CFC came from very humble beginnings. Eve is what you make of it.

  • It takes one to know one

    Have you you guys ever considered that Glevon is just an epic troll? All his articles use some weak logic to make some sweeping and flawed assumptions which he then builds elaborate flawed theories arround. Take it from the most epic troll in EvE news history, which happens to be me… He is just trolling from the article section instead of the comments section and always has been.

    • Guest

      Occan’s razor. What is more likely, that he is an epic genius capable of consistently emulate this level of retardness, or that he is in fact just a moron?

      • Internet Lawyer

        Occam’s razor. What is more likely, that he is an epic moron capable of
        consistently maintaining a level of retardedness that is beyond belief, that evokes hilarious overreaction in 95% of his respondents and that he is completely immune to the constant criticism he gets, or that he is in fact
        just averagely smart with a sense of humor?

  • tara read

    The reason why you will never be the next Chribba is because you are a fucking moron Gelvon.

  • lolgoblin

    “But the list of things needed to prevent a single guy destroying
    everything that thousands have built are bare minimum to make EVE grow.”

    Make EVE grow… you are clearly obsess with this topic, it appears in almost all your entries. Yes, your changes would make Eve a better game for some kind of people

    But what kind of people? the kind that can´t accept risks, the kind that needs an absolutely safety in order to make even the simplest tasks, the kind that ragequits when something fails or something stand in front of them (players, corporations, game mechanics, ect).

    I don´t want a game full of that kind of people. Im not going to pay a single € for that game and that community. Of course you think otherwise mainly because you are that risk averse kind of player, the kind that doesn´t adapts/fights back/stands/etc. But its easier to blame everithing else isn´t it?

    By the way I can´t read the article without thinking that you are projecting your failures in it.

    HTFU

  • Hobo

    I for one am thankful that you’re not revenant, and that your ‘influence’ is limited to the role of court jester on EN24.

  • Soulxlight

    – Playing alone.

    – Be the F1-monkey of people you know to be incompetent and asshole, but at least not spies.

    – Limiting yourself to frigs and bombless bombers, so you cannot lose anything you’d care for.

    BIG OLE OPTION 4

    – Start your own group, work really hard and earn the same rep as these other guys.

    Goblin, I’m not going to bash you, you seem to really believe in what you’re saying, but you also seem to purposely ignore how and why things happen the way they do. People don’t go to these guys out of sheer trust, or non trust. People go to the Vince’s, Elo’s and Mittani’s because they make their game more fun. Elo literally spends probably 8 – 10 hours a day on Eve in one capacity or another, sacrificing his real life time to FC, or scout out fun targets for the people in his alliance. The content they generate push hoards of people to him more than the trust issue.

  • I just do not know

    The structural issue of Eve will not go away, it ruins an otherwise excellent game. Old players with tons of ISK can create new accounts using plex, they buy toons, or create new ones and use them to infiltrate, as there is no account linking its impossible to trust anyone. Which is why I keep my own corp limited to a couple of people, control the corp assets myself and work in a coalition of like minded people. I will not waste my time and energy bulding up something to take these people on, because I know that if I try it will be destroyed too easily. Its all a question of trust, the structure of accounts within Eve means quite simply that if you trust others with your stuff you are a fool, because you have no idea who that person really is and where their loyalties really lie.

    • captain obvious

      Way to state the fucking obvious. It’s not the bad thing you seem to think it is though.

      • I just do not know

        Yes it is a bad thing, its only a good thing if you are one of the people able to do it, then its like taking candy from babies…

        • captain obvious

          Your name is correct. You just do not know.

  • qwer

    You can get to be Elo Knight if you just be a fucking active FC and develop your skills actively. The main thing is that there isn’t actually many people who are willing to do all the shit you need to do to be an effective and good FC in bigger scale fights. Game just becomes too much work.

  • anon

    Chribba= a man that does a great deal for eve with hosting/support/donations/3rd party service etc
    Gevlin = a man that could do a great deal for eve- by fucking off

    • This 🙂

    • Simon pieman

      Some of the comments after goblins posts are quality, yours and the dude at the top both made me literally laugh out loud, cheers.

  • Dennis the Dreamer

    Interesting read.

  • Mittani is a shrimp

    well said

  • justaplayer

    You sir, see the things how they truly are. “Eve is real” bullshit and sandbox game = endless options is just for naive or complete idiots. You cannot do much in this game unless as you well said you become a F1 monkey. I wish more people will write about how Eve really is… a fake success story of a good game.

    • hi goblin

      Don’t post on your own articles pretending you’re someone else, goblin.

  • Another shit goblin thread

    Ctrl+f ‘gank’: 0 results

    Post is still utter garbage. I will have to add ‘AWOX’ to my searches before i get my hopes up.

  • Alx

    And no one can be as you goblin. every one have a role… It has being awhille since you posted something constructive like this, I agree that eve needs some changes to become a real good game… It is lacking allot of the freedom to construct your way into the game… Some people have formed alliances that cant be betten… Others have T2 bpos making market competition impossible… And CCP won”t change what is not broken… The game is over, you notice it when it becomes easier to build a empire in real lifethen it is in eve.

  • I SPEAK THE TRUTH pikachu

    After reading another of your “articles” I wonder:
    1 what’s your eve attachments ?
    2 do you winning?

    3 why you think you suck at eve or eve suck? (seams the same for you and in actuality is not)

    And i general try to play more eve with some results rather then contemplating another wall of text

    regards

  • Random Miner

    he’s gotta be close friends with riv or something… i just can’t see how else he keeps getting posted here

  • OleInternetprick

    Amazing how much butthurt in here…

  • Muul Udonii

    Gevlon, you’ve only been playing eve for 2 years?

    That kinda explains a lot; you’re at that dangerous stage where you think you know enough,t but you don’t.

  • PLT

    Your articles are the main reason why you won’t be anybody special in EVE.

    As for the option you have in EVE… Ffs please. They would however be true in your case, so look in the mirror and wonder why you are limited to those options.

  • gayvlon

    LoL. gevlon is crying for help. now he is annoyed and wants some company, but nobody likes him. I wonder why? xDD

  • Some guy from -A-

    Well, that was the most depressing thing I’ve read all day. You need a hug man?

  • A Merc

    Gelv you might be able to talk the talk, (though its questionable through most of your articles.) but you have to walk the walk.

    The reason these guys are in the back room is that they can cultivate an identity of players, (read upper hundreds of players) and then consistently deliver at the high stakes end of the game. Eve is a multi-player game where leadership abilities are more valuable than individual piloting ability or wallet.

    You can’t buy / post to that level of infamy & influence in Eve-online. You gotta do the walk and the killer as it takes years of hard effort to get there, Eve is simply that competitive. Its no wonder the guys you mention above are loathed to give it up and move on to another MMO.

  • heh

    Gevlon Goblin… you are worth what is it 500 billion or 1 trillion? Start your own damn alliance… and you have all the back room crap you want man. You think these guys got there because they just randomly joined a big alliance one day and said, look at me, im rich you should put me in charge. No. Simply put no. They were around for the beginning of their venture. You are just now realizing what its like to be outside the null bubble, where you are rich, but not uber rich, and definitely not uber powerful with a super cap armada at your beckoning with titans galore,

    Start your own alliance, or go to an alliance thats small that you can systematically pick up. After that, you can’t be known as a scammer, or a dumb suicide ganker anymore. You have to literally start your own SRP system, and all those cool market skills you know, have to be put in use for the benefit of that alliance to increase its SRP. First, you’ll have to create your own corp on the side that does this with a corp wallet that can be examined. Then youll have to show proof on your donations you aren’t just donating, but have your own active SRP system. Thats how you do it. Then wallah, you are in that alliance’s trust. But you have to constantly sacrifice, not steal. Remember that.

    Theres only 2 kinds of people in this game, those that want to steal, and those that want a reputation. You already picked stealing…. its going to be hard to switch it over.

  • Nobody

    If you can’t be the next Mittani, how did Mittani become Mittani? If you can’t be next Elo, how did Elo become Elo? If you can’t be next Chribba… well, you get the idea.
    At the end of the day though, I don’t think most people want the responsibility or workload. Unless I quit my job and went on welfare I’d have to train myself to only sleep 2 hours a day to become Eve’s next whoever. And if I managed that I’d rather just work more and make more money rather than be a great leader in a video game and nothing else. The amount of effort and, more importantly, time, to get to that point is monumental. It’s just not an important enough achievemtnt for most people to actually take the time to do it. You gotta have an irrational obsesstion with the game. It’s just like in real life( well… not quite- It’s easier to become a big player in Eve than in real life) Everyone wishes they had as much money as whatever famous billionaire, but nobody wants to have to work that hard and take the big risks. In either case you gotta want it more than anything. Because it’s all you’re gonna be doing for awhile. “Hey, are you watching the big game tonight?” “No, I gotta stay late and catch up on paperwork (or in Eve, “I gotta fc a fleet that’s planned)” “Everyone is going to so-and-so’s for the weekend, you should come, it’s gonna be a blast!” “No, it’s the busy season (or in Eve ‘We gotta a major sov war’) you won’t be seeing me for 3 months…” It’s probably not as bad in Eve since it’s only about personal satisfaction and there’s no hard rewards for sucess and thus less serious compeition, but to get to the top of anything require unimaginable sacrifice; until you try to do it you will not believe how much effort goes into running anything. Whether great people or total douchers the big players have earned their place, no doubt about that. If it’s worth it or not is another question. I guess it depends on the person.
    Go for it if you want. It’s possible. You apparently have a nice start on the ISK front, and you’re sorta eve-famous. Judging from the comments almost everyone hates you, but you could say the same about Mittani (or to continue the real life analogy, almost everyone seems to hate every billionaire or politician or celebrity or almost anyone in the news with a lot of money), so I wouldn’t let that bother you. Just realize what you’re getting into. I don’t know what you do with your time, but you better really, really love Eve (or your business or whatever), and, more importantly, not mind on missing most everything else in life if you want to be the next whoever.

  • Atogrim

    He has been playing eve for ALMOST TWO YEARS!….dafug…..nuff said.

  • muh

    … i was wondering wtf i was reading, then i saw the name again…. yup he’s a moron without a fucking clue how to play anything beside hello kitty online

    • Sidara Davidson

      I’m sorry, I just don’t see it here.

      I am no fan of Goblin, trust me. But I read this thing through and through and I largely agree with most of it.
      And even if you don’t, you gotta admit:
      there is not an ounce of “oh look at me, I’m so awesome” like you usually see in his posts.

      I for one applaud the sudden change.

      • Bartholomew Q. Schmecklestein

        As a society, we have decided that in order to facilitate commerce, there will be punishment for fraud and civil laws to get back what you’ve lost to a fraudster. In EVE, there is no punishment for fraud or civil laws to get back what you’ve lost. This creates an environment that makes it be ‘okay’ to do those things, because it’s ‘just a game’ and ‘it doesn’t really matter’, etc. So people who would follow laws if there were any think that just because it’s not specifically illegal to scam people, it’s morally right to do it in the game. It’s legal. Do it all you want.
        So people do that.
        And when people get access to corporate assets, there is no ‘jail’ looming over them, so they take ’em and run. There’s no reason not to.
        So we live in a world where anything you share you should consider to be gone.
        We can’t even allow rental contracts because people would just run away with whatever they rented.
        There really is no way to reverse this and still have EVE be EVE though. I think the best thing to do is allow access to be more compartmentalized. Still, there’s nothing to say ‘just take this and run’ isn’t the best option.
        The fact is, the game was supposed to be a multiplayer game, but became a single-player game with alts filling in all the gaps that you as a single player can’t fill in. Other players are only there in order to make the experience better, to fight against, never to work with, because they’ll betray you and your alts won’t. So just use alts.

  • LexArson

    – Playing alone.

    – Be the F1-monkey of people you know to be incompetent and asshole, but at least not spies.

    – Limiting yourself to frigs and bombless bombers, so you cannot lose anything you’d care for.

    I am none of these things, so you are wrong.

  • Bartholomew Q. Schmecklestein

    So you want me to hire you or something?
    More importantly, the reason these people have that reputation is because they continue to deliver on that reputation. Can you think of a way to destroy that reputation?

    Do that and you’ll create an opening.

    • Dikreathz

      how would one destroy the repof the mittin hmm 🙂 infamy can only be wrecked by doing anythin gdecent

  • NotAGoblin

    Glevon,
    You are correct that the central issue is TRUST. You are incorrect to suggest that trust in EVE is earned differently than in real life.
    Your examples, (the idea that because there is Chribba or Mittanni in EVE that you are excluded from earning similar trust) are short sighted an incorrect.
    If you want to do something, be someone, gain something in EVE or in RL, that requires the trust of others, you have to earn it. That requires communication, interaction and risk.
    Those three things are not your forte. In fact, based on what you’ve written over the years, I would suggest that those three things are not even in your skill book.

    But those are the essential ingredients to earning trust whether in New Eden or New Jersey.
    So, thanks for the article. Nothing new. Get some people skills and talk to us later. Thanks kbye

  • Daniel Plain

    wait, there are lingerie pictures of GG?

    • Bartholomew Q. Schmecklestein

      We can hope.

      • Darth Nefarius

        I honestly hope not

  • Darth Nefarius

    GG articles of late have been better its good to see him talking in these terms IMHO