Gevlon Globin is famous in the Word of Warcraft circle for having mastered the “gold cap”. His EVE journey show a very interesting “outside the box” approach to the game, PVE and the trade hubs. Recently the turned his eyes into building a PVP carreer and proving the “Morons and Slackers” concept is also a staple of PVP engagements, for reason for which we invite you to pay a visit to his blog.

After I got 52B/month solo kills, the Elite PvP folks weren’t amused. Actually they raged in 140+ comments on EN24 over my kills because they aren’t “real” kills as the targets had no guns. I felt really bad that these great guys I want to belong don’t approve my performance, so I went on a solo roam with a Cormorant destroyer, to get real, “l33t killz”.

On my way to lowsec, luck shined upon me in the form of a suspect Talos sitting on the highsec side of a lowsec gate. Despite I was only in a Cormorant – like every l33t peep – I engaged. While it seemed to be hopeless, only by l33t skillz I emerged victorious. The ebbil piwate was mad and reshipped to another Talos to get revenge, but again he was no match to my mad skillz. Raging, he demanded one more round and as a honorable PvP-er, I granted him, but yet again l33t skillz defeated ship size. Now without doubt I’ve proven that I’m a real PvPr and should be respected for my knowledge of the art of pew.

OK, I think you are just as annoyed by this disgusting bragging written in kidspeak as I am writing it. Obviously, the 3 Taloses belonged to my alt who just idled peacefully while being slowly eaten by the destroyer. But still, I have 3 API verified kill reports of a Cormorant defeating 3 Taloses and there is absolutely no way for you to prove what really happened. Just like you have no way to prove that any of the worshipped “elite PvPers” are legitimate. I can call each and every one of them altkilling, remote-repped and boosted fakers who had a whole fleet of corpies clearing up gatecamps in his way, removing any threat and supplying easy kills. Again: I can call every single “elite PvP” videos and stories fakes, cheats, lies and there is nothing the author can do to disprove it, probably because most of them are indeed fakes, cheats and lies.

The only way to prove the “value” of a kill is a developer guarded tournament, like AT. Surprisingly we don’t see a single ship destroying several larger ships on its own there, we see balanced encounters.

Creating “l33t killz” isn’t even expensive, thanks to the several forms of welfare CCP provides to “for fun” PvP-ers. The largest – without doubt – is insurance:


53M ISK was created from thin air by CCP and given to the victim for each kills, just for being AFK while killed. But insurance isn’t the only form of welfare, there are also bounties. While they aren’t created from thin air, there are always idiots who have money to waste on this feature:

Add 18M more in drops and salvage and the cost of creating 316M kills was only 112.3M. Yes, you can turn every ISK you have into 3 ISK “elite solo” kills and I have no doubt that many people do so.

There is no such thing as proven skill in EVE. Ourside of AT, there is no way to tell anything about a kill besides that it happened. Therefore the only difference between PvP performance of players is ISK destroyed. So highsec gankers and alt-killing rich people are the best PvP-ers, no matter what the “elite” claims in their fake videos, made-up stories during their quest to gain false prestige among fellow lolling fakers.

Update: even if we accept that a properly skilled board of players can spot fakers by some pattern, such board does not exist so there is nothing that would stop a faker to gain elite status. Remember, CCP had to change neutral logies to suspect because using neut logies in highsec 1v1 was rather the norm. Despite the victim usually wrote a comment to the kill, no one cared and anyone looks up the pilot will accept the kill as a valid 1v1. My point is that without such board no one can be called elite, therefore the term “elite PvP” cannot exist.

- Gevlon Goblin

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127 Comments

  1. petwatch

    Aren't articles meant to have a point? Not sure what this one is, you killed your own alt three times … and … erm …. that's it.

    March 5, 2013 at 2:57 pm Reply
  2. Guest

    Haha, good show Goblin. Lots of elite tears about this trick being exposed. Sure, not every kill is like this, most are probably genuine, but I'm pretty sure some of the so-called OMGWTFBBQ-awesome people hate this being exposed. I don't care about killboards anyway, I like to play the game.

    March 5, 2013 at 3:00 pm Reply
  3. Ekite7solo pvper

    Titania goblin, nuff said.

    Really dont know why this retard can still post articles at evenews, it' s just another thing that make this site looks worst (if that s possible)

    March 5, 2013 at 3:17 pm Reply
  4. Oska Rus

    Lol. There is nearly 30% of people who read the whole article to realize goblin killed his alt. In normal discussion it is usually about 5% to 10%.

    March 5, 2013 at 3:27 pm Reply
  5. Fire the Idiot

    "Obviously, the 3 Taloses belonged to my alt who just idled peacefully while being slowly eaten by the destroyer. But still, I have 3 API verified kill reports of a Cormorant defeating 3 Taloses and there is…absolutely no way for you to prove what really happened. Except I just confessed in my own article."

    Fixed.

    March 5, 2013 at 3:30 pm Reply
  6. Gecko

    LOL I starting reading this got the part his destroyer killed 3 Talos and I was like instantly BS. To be honest its rare as hell to see solo fights in Eve so if its like a rarely travelled bit of space or in high sec I doubt it. When you got like 2 v 1 or 3 v 1 and more and you win then yeah I call that elite pvp. The corp Team Liquid has actually gotten a number of kills out numbered fighting wave after wave of enemies and reinforcements, they eventually die too but the kill vs their losses they owned the ppl that engaged em. There is less and less elite pvp in eve though so unless you want camp vs camp or mass sov wars its going to be a roll of the dice where 9 out of 10 your fighting impossible odds.

    March 5, 2013 at 3:37 pm Reply
  7. Gecko

    I wonder does Greedy Goblin actually read these comments. Heh Greedy if you do how bought this post on forums your going to be in X system or something for duels and mention ship types you want to fight. I bet you'll get ppl lining up to fight you 1v1 sadly I don't think you would make it past a 2nd dual but you still get to have true 1 v 1 pvp.

    March 5, 2013 at 3:55 pm Reply
  8. blaaaaaaaaa

    Go back to WoW please.

    March 5, 2013 at 3:56 pm Reply
    1. I was....

      oh and how much isk do you earn per day? show us your statements – this is a spreadsheet game after all!

      March 5, 2013 at 8:48 pm Reply
  9. Markethopper

    I see something worth talking about Goblin…you killing yourself. Unfortunately, the data is incomplete. You spent weeks killing barges and collecting the KM data, yet only a few minutes killing yourself. Please spend more time killing yourself (a month maybe) so we can all know how much you are worth.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfpYO_oqe4 My interpretation of Goblin and the community.

    March 5, 2013 at 4:04 pm Reply
  10. DubbaYooArr

    Riv, Sov Map or Die! ( didnt read article )

    March 5, 2013 at 4:07 pm Reply
  11. Tij

    tbh I have read some of GGs articles and they are quite thought provoking……

    but this just sounds like "Waaaaaaaaaaaaa good pvpers wont accept me as their peer, so Im going to discredit them all!!!!"

    Didnt work gg – and made you look a real dick in the process.

    March 5, 2013 at 4:15 pm Reply
  12. Slothen

    Stick to writing about PI and moons, gevlon. This article was fucking useless.

    March 5, 2013 at 4:18 pm Reply
  13. nukemeheyeAFK

    that article was embarassing and you should feel embarrassed.

    March 5, 2013 at 4:26 pm Reply
    1. Alwayslaughahahaha

      You just take every retarded catchphrase you see on the internet and run with it don't you?

      March 5, 2013 at 4:31 pm Reply
  14. anonymous

    So what I got out of this is he is trying to say all elite pvpers are faking it and actually killing their alts because that is what Goblin needed to do to get 3 kills.

    I am fine with his articles on stuff he actually knows what he is talking about like industry but to let this guy write anything about pvp is flat out INSULTING to everyone in Eve that really pvp's.

    March 5, 2013 at 4:33 pm Reply
  15. nerd goblin

    Dude we don't care… go back to WOW

    March 5, 2013 at 4:40 pm Reply
  16. the mexican

    Wow goblin you are leet GO BACK TO PLAYING WOW NOW

    March 5, 2013 at 5:04 pm Reply
  17. Hernan J.

    so much lol

    March 5, 2013 at 5:05 pm Reply
  18. poastin toaster

    i stopped reading after he told everyone about his great "WoW" stuff, just like all of his other articles.

    i guess congrats on being a leet w0w player.

    March 5, 2013 at 5:42 pm Reply
  19. noko pepe

    this is a lie proof or it didnt happen. u engaged a talos in lowsec space on a gate and didnt get shot by the sentries?

    March 5, 2013 at 5:52 pm Reply
  20. 2manno

    well, it does prove that the gevlon goblin can't add properly.

    other than that….

    March 5, 2013 at 5:59 pm Reply
  21. Hunter

    Oh, son…if somebody is really good ad PvP, he doesn't need to be called as one – he just IS. Unfortunately "Kill board goblins" and "see my stats morons" will never understand. But thumbs up for posting such crap. Really takes some balls.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:39 pm Reply
  22. Haha

    I swear, part of me wants to believe this is one of the greatest trolls I'll ever set eyes on. Writing rants of exceptionally low quality and getting trashed at by seething rage-induced comments only to keep coming for more.

    March 5, 2013 at 6:44 pm Reply
    1. Urziel99

      He was in test for a while, so anything is possible.

      March 6, 2013 at 6:41 am Reply
  23. Metal Scrap

    lmfao elite pvp

    March 5, 2013 at 6:53 pm Reply
  24. fazor fag

    Lmao great post. +1

    March 5, 2013 at 7:19 pm Reply
  25. Kairos Antilles

    And yet, you all keep reading and commenting. Ponder THAT one for a moment…

    March 5, 2013 at 8:29 pm Reply
  26. FailCascade

    He just… doesn't… get it.

    March 5, 2013 at 9:20 pm Reply
  27. Gumpin

    Alt kills…….

    Titania Goblin

    At least make your alts a different last name when you kill them. Not everyone that plays eve is a window licker.

    March 5, 2013 at 9:30 pm Reply
    1. akash

      You should start reading before posting

      March 6, 2013 at 2:21 pm Reply
      1. Gumpin

        I'm calling out his extremely bad attempt at setting up an obvious fake.

        He doesn't even put real effort into his satire.

        March 7, 2013 at 6:23 am Reply
  28. Gumpin

    " I can call each and every one of them altkilling, remote-repped and boosted fakers who had a whole fleet of corpies clearing up gatecamps in his way, removing any threat and supplying easy kills. Again: I can call every single “elite PvP” videos and stories fakes, cheats, lies and there is nothing the author can do to disprove it, probably because most of them are indeed fakes, cheats and lies."

    ERHMAHGERD!

    I think Gevlon unwittingly discovered why we, eve players, are considered bitter and callous and why eve is considered a harsh unyieldind universe.

    All your accomplishments are lies.

    March 5, 2013 at 9:33 pm Reply
  29. Sum Dude

    The only thing I got out of this article is that Gevlon is a retard – good job analysing the killboard you moron – go back to WoW

    March 5, 2013 at 9:46 pm Reply
  30. Go back to WoW

    You wasted my time.
    River, you are lost readers because of this writer writing junk.

    Go back to WoW. You clearly suck at eve. Even TEST didn't want you. –They chose to keep un-subed accounts over you're worthlessness.–

    March 6, 2013 at 1:50 am Reply
  31. retardseverywhere

    Does this guy realize that nobody likes him?
    Its bad enought that every article is him bragging and sounding like a arrogant prick. If that is not enough reason to dislike the guy his articles are filled with rubbish.
    Also a commarant can easily take on a Talos in low sec, if on gate and he engages like a moron, I don't think he realises this so instead kills his alts… sad and pathetic. yet another crap strawman article. No more even browsing your artiles goblin this is the last hit from me you get.

    March 6, 2013 at 3:52 am Reply
  32. Syclone

    Yep, no fucks given about this goblin guy and his pointless articles.

    March 6, 2013 at 6:01 am Reply
  33. O/O/

    Since when En 24 lets trolls to post? Goblin used to be nr 1 TEST shitposter, thats why he got kicked. Article is utterly useless.

    March 6, 2013 at 9:26 am Reply
  34. PL grunt

    I too kill tier 3 battlecruisers in destroyers and frigates. It really is easy to kill something that can't track you and has a paper thin tank.. especially if its stupid enough to engage you point blank near a gate. Lets face it one new idiot undocks every minute in new eden.

    Take a well fit battleship solo thru curse and brawl it out with the residents. Then the great guys you don't want to belong to can continue to ignore you, but at least can say you tried some fun PVP once in your EVE career.

    It still won't be news worthy however..

    March 6, 2013 at 9:21 pm Reply
  35. anonymoose

    Hey if you guys want him to go away…STOP FUCKING POSTING IN HIS ARTICLES.

    We all know he's full of shit and loves the attention he gets from his shitty articles.
    No need to keep stating it.

    Stop feeding the troll.

    March 7, 2013 at 4:49 am Reply
  36. lame

    Go back to WoW. You just dont get it. Shit articule.

    March 8, 2013 at 6:34 am Reply

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