Stir Within The Unthinkables [INK]

By Darius | Feb 20th 2013 8:25PM
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The Unthinkables [INK] have been having a few complicated days with the alleged kicking of one of their biggest and most active corporation from the alliance by RAPOPOV.

Air [AIR] was removed last Saturday, the 17th of February, when one of the directors of the corporation, Vamilon, asked the alliance leadership for reimbursement for an Orca killed by a small gang passing by which was filled with jump bridge fuel in UM-SCG (Wicked Creek).

According to the following chat transcript, he got trolled and it was not long before they started insulting each other.

[19:59:29] Vamilon > so… is spco going to pay for my orca since I was using it to refuel the jump bridges?
[20:01:31] Steve Bailey > its an alliance jump bridge alliance should pay
[20:01:46] Master Kent > lol
[20:02:14] Vamilon > cool, who should I send the bill to?
[20:02:25] Master Kent > pilot?
[20:02:33] Vamilon > me
[20:02:39] Vamilon > need the km link again?
[20:02:51] Master Kent > lol u serious?
[20:02:58] Hive Queeen > [20:02:14] Vamilon > cool, who should I send the bill to?
[20:03:01] Hive Queeen > [20:02:25] Master Kent > pilot?
[20:03:08] mithrandiir min > link it again need a laugh lol
[20:03:08] Hive Queeen > i think he ment sedn it to the pilot :P
[20:03:40] Vamilon Kill: Vamilon (Orca)
[20:03:58] Hive Queeen > where did they catch you about?
[20:04:24] mithrandiir min > its not alliance fitted lol
[20:04:26] Master Kent > tp7 gate in um
[20:04:38] Hive Queeen > when did the jb move to tp7 gate?
[20:04:43] Hive Queeen > need to bm it for corp
[20:05:01] Hive Queeen mithrandiir min your naughty
[20:05:11] Vamilon > they caught me on the way back to the jump bridges from the only relatively safe path to the ozone, dumbasses
[20:05:28] Vamilon > unless you can buy ozone in one of the jb stations
[20:05:42] Vamilon > why the fuck else would I be carrying over 100k of liquid ozone?
[20:06:01] Steve Bailey Vamilon did you have 3rd party or fully comp??
[20:06:28] Vamilon > did I have what?
[20:06:32] Hive Queeen > lol
[20:06:36] mithrandiir min > who is in charge of fueling pos ?
[20:06:57] Vamilon > apparently nobody is in charge of keeping the jump bridges fueled
[20:07:07] Vamilon > since the 4-4 bridge was OUT of ozone last night
[20:07:11] mithrandiir min > if u claim insurance u will lose no claims bonus
[20:07:46] Vamilon > stop trolling me kthx
[20:07:51] Starbuck Arkaral > teh fuck are you even talking about mith?
[20:08:28] mithrandiir min > [20:06:00] Steve Bailey > Vamilon did you have 3rd party or fully comp??
[20:08:32] Vamilon > someone offers to maintain the infrastructure and gets run over by a 20-man gang, and then gets shit on for it
[20:08:58] Vamilon > fuck you mith
[20:09:06] mithrandiir min > next time let the jump bridges run out
[20:09:11] Vamilon > I did
[20:09:17] Vamilon > didn’t you hear me? they were already out.
[20:09:26] Vamilon > that’s not the point here
[20:09:33] Vamilon > the point is, everyone thinks these things get done magically
[20:09:35] Vamilon > well they fucking don’t.
[20:09:52] RAPOPOV > we will get ride off them as we don`t want them
[20:09:55] Vamilon > and I would really appreciate it if the fucking alliance reimburses someone for maintaining something the alliance fucking needs.
[20:10:29] RAPOPOV > well i can`t remember asking you to take care off it
[20:10:33] mithrandiir min > i 2nd that get rid of the bridges
[20:10:49] Vamilon > okay, air’s gone, have fun out here without us guys
[20:11:25] Starbuck Arkaral > to be fair Rapo, FAIL
[20:11:42] RAPOPOV > well youre upset cause you lost a orca
[20:11:50] RAPOPOV > blame me for it if it helps
[20:11:56] RAPOPOV > but it still ain`t my fault
[20:12:11] Vamilon > nobody blamed you
[20:12:23] RAPOPOV > so who is to blame?
[20:12:23] Vamilon > nobody tried to blame you
[20:12:33] RAPOPOV > cause your mad at someone
[20:12:34] Vamilon > the alliance is to blame for letting the jump bridges go empty
[20:12:46] Vamilon > and as swollen as your head can get sometimes, you’re not the alliance
[20:12:58] RAPOPOV > i didn`t say that
[20:13:26] Vamilon > and I never said you were to blame
[20:13:37] Vamilon > so how did you suddenly decide that I did?
[20:14:28] RAPOPOV > well you said its alliance fault..if something is at fault its usual the responsibillity off the leader in this case that would be me
[20:14:30] Vamilon > whose responsibility is/was it to fuel the jump bridges?
[20:15:30] Vamilon > maybe I should send a bill to kaz, or to tyemast, since they were the ones doing it for the last year
[20:16:53] Vamilon > or maybe, alliance leadership can get a volunteer to keep the things full, and we can have done with this conversation
[20:17:05] Master Kent > well it was in the process of beeing dealt with by others and tbh why not use a scout when flying the orca?
[20:17:17] bugs 11 > anyone in alliance can refuel them
[20:17:29] RAPOPOV > well i`ll take the jb`s down its much easier
[20:17:34] Stepro > another corp had taken responsibility for the refueling guys
[20:17:35] bugs 11 > or y a orca?
[20:17:46] Vamilon > if so step, they fail at life.
[20:17:51] RAPOPOV > just unanchor them buggs
[20:17:57] RAPOPOV > be done with it
[20:18:03] Starbuck Arkaral > can I shoot it instead?
[20:18:04] RAPOPOV > don`t like drama
[20:18:21] Vamilon > yeah, take the fuckers down, see just how everyone likes not having a jb network
[20:18:33] Vamilon > if you think this is dramatic, just you wait
[20:18:59] Vamilon > stop being a fucking cunt RAPOPOV
[20:19:00] bugs 11 > please dont threaten vam
[20:19:08] bugs 11 > vam enough
[20:23:52] Starbuck Arkaral > who the fuck is bugs?
[20:24:06] bugs 11 > non of your business :P

As a result, AIR ended up kicked out of the alliance (which is now sitting at 669 members).

According to AIR pilots, the corporation was keeping their local markets stocked, helping with keeping their jump bridge network fueled and ready, and an important FC, Space Chutney, has decided to quit the alliance as well.

Whether the large forces in the area are aware of their current tribulations and are ready to take advantage of them or not, INK leadership believes the current situation to be nothing more than AIR’s taste for drama after being kicked.

According to RAPOPOV himself:

No, where not failscading, air trying to create as much drama as possible but atm we are getting a few new corporations in to replace air so it won`t be a big deal

-Darius

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  • Yaco Yukutava

    Air has some good pilots in it and some fun FC's in Whadafool and even Gags roams of late have been a lot of fun, u guys will be missed, however Eve goes on. INK will go on just as we have been. People will pick up the reigns left by some key Air members and move forward.
    These times in an alliance I think is one of the most exciting as this is when you find out who talks a good game and who just gets on with things. Lets face it, we definately not gonna be short of a fight now which is why I personally play the game.
    So just bring it!!!!!!!

  • Whadafool

    So Rapo, you got scammed 100 bil for a titan that did get delivered. Do ink members know about this little mishap?

    • Whadafool

      didnt**

      • obvious alt

        OMFG…..rapapov paid 100 bill for a titan and got scammed and never received it??
        THis a news 24 story of it own

        please expand!

    • INKbob

      From what I hear the ppl who were meant to be selling a titan got scammed and decided to keep INK's isk to cover their losses because the person who scammed them on a different deal happened to be in an INK corp.

      And I'm disappointed in u Whada, defending ur idiot of a Corp leader. Lets face it, ur an average FC, certainly not of the level of Space Chutney or Starcrash. Yet you were given the chance to improve your skills and this is how you repay us. By spreading old gossip and criticising the best aliiance your lot has ever been in.

      Lets face it. What did ur killboard look like before you joined INK? Cascade Imminent (FAIL) is where you guys came from, and without a single member of AIR to help we destroyed that alliance. So dont be making out AIR is some kind of leet PVPers, when ur ex FAIL.

      Its sad to see what a bunch of two faced people AIR was full of. I liked many of the guys, but now see some of them posting on here about how shit INK is just demonstrates the kind of corp they really are.

      I just hope the alliance you join is prepared for the level of gouging and drama they are letting themselves in for.

      • Whadafool

        Yet i have the balls to post on here with my real name?

        And ive never claimed i was even above average fc tbh, but at least i gave it a shot (which is a lot more than some people who sit on their asses and expect pvp to be spoon fed to them).

        Some of the things Vam said i dont agree with but i agree with his general sentiment, and the way we were treated by Ink leadership was nothing short of a disgrace.

      • Vamilon

        Wait. What?!?

        Uh, thank you very much, AIR was there to push FAIL's shit in too. Get your facts straight. It becomes painfully obvious why you don't post with your game name here, you don't want your own corp to kick your ass for spewing bullshit about things you have no real clue about.

        • GagsPERVY

          Gags started the FAIL war :p

  • Eve Midnight

    1) Lack of Donuts. INK provided no support for my addiction to Donuts and did not share my love for Vodka Donut. The Russians we used to be bitches for were very fond of my Vodka Donut. They shall be missed.

    2) Fireworks. I like to provide happy deaths to all pods I kill with my ceptor, INK wasnt fond of this. Good reason to leave.

    3) Stepro's Basement. Had great times down there, loved the sado sessions. XOXOXOX

    4) Me, Ex-Narwhal. Getting raped by every WH gang that passed by INK space was heart breaking. INK seems to be unable to run armour fleets, I'm heart broken, really. "Dock up" is not my favorite action.

    5) Did I mention I will miss our Russian bosses. They kick ass!!

    • INKbob

      Eve, really??

      1) We were never bitches for any russians, as is plain to see with the lack of eviction by Solar and the disbanding of Gypsy Band havin no effect on us. Some people might say we was over generous on Sov, but who really wants all that Sov anyways? We certainly couldnt afford it. We style ourselves as a PVP alliance, not slum lords. Cause lets face it, its not the best space around.

      2) Since when did any1 in INK criticise you for pod killing??? Unless you're shooting pods when you should be on the primary. But hey, if ur too cheap to fly the proper doctrines, thats another story. (Mummy, its not armor so I'm not flying it!!) And many times u ignored FCs and shot at our allies. I could never figure out if u were just stupid, or were trying to cause trouble. Sometimes it was amusing, but sometimes you just remined me of some nugget u would find in TEST thinking it was funny to shoot an ally.

      3) Stepros Basement – no comment

      4) Er, dont recall gettin raped by WH gangs, one WH gang I do remember is VOC and we wasted them for no losses. Agreed, the strategy of docking up and not fighting is not something I'm a fan of. But, we havent reached the point yet where every member has every ship type skilled/fitted up sat in UM- station. So I apologise if ur armor trained and have every armor doctrine ready to roll, but us mere mortals dont. We have a decent fleet doctrine, and its not that bad but it is mostly shield like most null-sec alliances. You arent gonna find it much different anywhere else.

      5) Some of us dont miss flying in the russian fleets, but thats only because of the language barrier issues. Missing vital details cause the FC forgot to give out the instructions in English can be annoying at best. However, they brought us good fights and when everything jelled our tengu fleets were pretty darn epic.

      Way I see it, you should just go join RA and be a bitch for them.

      • Whadafool

        really? pretty sure we have official spreadsheets showing ink paid rent to gypsy. but then again, you dont want that getting out do you?

        • hiii

          official spreadshate made by you yesterday ?

      • Eve midnight

        Dear InkNoob, my comments where for fun, get a life.

  • glawa

    guys, AIR corp is just isk-sucking bunch of lame dudes with good logi/stuff making alts. the stuff they make is always 20-30% more expencive then jita, and thats all on alliance contracts at any given time. not to mention that they are oportunistic fags, because, as u all remember from couple months b4, they left FAIL in the middle of deployment, and just passed thru to enemy. that fact is saying enough of duders they really are..
    i really can't imagine noone taking them in therey rows, except maybe a test, or goons.

  • glawa

    guys, AIR corp is just isk-sucking bunch of lame dudes with good logi/stuff making alts. the stuff they make is always 20-30% more expencive then jita, and thats all on alliance contracts at any given time. not to mention that they are oportunistic fags, because, as u all remember from couple months b4, they left FAIL in the middle of deployment, and just passed thru to enemy. that fact is saying enough of duders they really are..

  • http://www.facebook.com/pero.glawa Pero Glawa

    guys, AIR corp is just isk-sucking bunch of lame dudes with good logi/stuff making alts. the stuff they make is always 20-30% more expencive then jita, and thats all on alliance contracts at any given time. not to mention that they are oportunistic fags, because, as u all remember from couple months b4, they left FAIL in the middle of deployment, and just passed thru to enemy. that fact is saying enough of duders they really are..

    • reality sucks

      FAIL was fine when AIR left. They weren't in the middle of deployment.

      Also jump freighter pilots have to make the isk back somehow. Once you've spent 8bil on the ship to jump the stuff it can take a while to make that back. Buy one yourself and supply yourself with ships if you don't like a mark-up on prices in 0.0 (because FACT when you move away from trade hubs prices go up)

      • BloodSuckingLeech

        If you have to say "FACT" in your comments this automatically means that you are just making weak assed, pathetic excuses. Indy douche nozzles that are only there to rinse isk out of the folks actively fighting for the space every leech in the alliance lives in are merely opportunistic parasites. In a half decent alliance the leadership fight the good fight AND move their own stuff around with their own JF AND will readily fill up whats left of their cargo hold with orders from alliance buddies with a token fuel charge because it's for the good of the alliance. Duders tried that with my corp, they were kicked before their feet could touch the ground.

        • Right?

          so what you're saying is INK isn't even half decent because they don't move stuff around for alliance members. Someone else has to do it and individually invest their own ISK into it and accept the risk that if they lose the JF it won't be covered and they would have to then buy another otherwise the members in the alliance would then complain there were no ships for sale.

          • Your mom

            Is that what you carebears do? Ask reimbursement when your trying rip of your ally mates and get ganked in process.. Trolololool

          • Observer

            Just like AIR :)

    • Funnyguy

      This is true.

    • Indy

      couldnt agree more, also they were running scams as a result of which they stole isk from their own members, their character Gags something was used for that, he 'stole' from corp hangars then they kicked him saying aw its his fault sry guys, only to kick the members they stole from later and they take gags back, as it turns out he is a friend….

      basically… cunts… their ceo is the worse

      but hey, deal with them see for yourself

      • Gags Pevi

        Well,

        I dont know where to start,

        1) Air dose not build anything we buy from JITA

        2) If you dont like the prices move it your self, we dont make u buy it.

        3) Gags (me) has never stolen anything on this game ever !

        4) We have never kicked anyone and taken there ISK or ships

        5) Indy who every you are lies lies lies lol

      • Carrelle Rouppon

        The content I could salvage from this moronic attempt to 'burn' AIR, is incorrect.

        Please be grammatical when trolling.

  • WHAT?!?!

    So…
    Alliance logistics gets convoluted and people don't know who is incharge (bad leadership?)
    Jump bridge runs out of fuel
    AIR Corp leader notices and decides to fuel it (nice guy?)
    He posts intel about a neut gang
    He then gets destroyed by the same neut gang while trying to fuel the JB (silly person)
    Instead of using a cheap ship he uses an orca (cheap ship he wouldnt care about, orca he does)
    He complains that he has lost his orca and wants it reimbursed (he was trying to do the alliance a favor)
    Alliance leader tells him to go away and that the JB was being removed anyway.

    1. Its the orca pilots own fault for his bad judgement
    2. The alliance leader should have a firm grip on logistics and keep other leadership informed
    3. They should have had a private discussion about the loss and the logistics
    4. Everyone else trolling in the chatlog should have STFU

    AIR will be missed, they are a good active corp
    Space Chutney will be missed, he was a good FC
    INK will pull through because they are a strong alliance

    • Observer

      Hey its alliance chat with 1000 people in it.. What you think would happen after some noob rages about lost orca that he want reimbursed.. I guess any other 1k people alliance wouldnt troll the guy for losing orca like a noob and then making drama out of it.. And after that posting it in eve24.. Yea thats AIR right there..

    • Observer

      Your first fail. There was corp whos job was to fuel that bridge. And that corp was not AIR.. Also everyone knew who was in charge.. AIR just decided to go refuel that bridge on their own without asking anything from anyone. And they lost unscouted solo orca while doing that like noobs.. Then they made drama out of it and asked for reimbursement in alliance chat and few of our 1k ppl in alliance chat trolled them.. Then they decided to convo alliance leadership and insult them with every word stupid person can find.. And still im not telling about AIR's other fuckups and why everyone hates those ex FAIL fags…

      • Observer

        Or was it on some secret leaderhip channel? Anyways the fucks i give is zero.. And thats why im just an observer…

  • Indy

    i don't like AIR i used to fly with them before they got so big, they had like 40 members back then half of whom were rly bad at the game, even worse than me :) their leadership is made up of total douche bags, real cunts… I loved reading this article because if it was any other corp id say that they were right and the orca pilot was right to some extent, the alliance leader and others in that convo didn't rly cooperate at all, but my take on this is that both AIR leadership and INK leadership are douches, cunts and in general the kinds of ppl i wouldn't want to force myself to listen to on ts or vent or whatever each day.

    I'm happy to see the AIR being treated like arrogant whores which they are, kuddos INK show them where their place is! well done!

  • Phroso

    Vam next time check your six you muppet

  • The Watcher

    The death of that Orca is all on the pilot. It would have taken longer to haul all that items in a indy hauler, but at least it would have been a better choice to use. Did Ink tell the pilot to use his own Orca to maintenance the JBs? No. There for the alliance will not reimburse stupidity. People love to laugh at others when they are down. There are only a select few people that will help you and sorry to say they are not in Ink. No authority figure stepped in to maintain order. Seems like a bar fight scene where everyone for himself. Is this how Ink want to run the alliance? I have been in here spying and let me just say that you guys don't look like you doing so well.

  • The Watcher

    The death of that Orca is all on the pilot. It would have taken longer to haul all that items in a indy hauler, but at least it would have been a better choice to use. Did Ink tell the pilot to use his own Orca to maintenance the JBs? No. There for the alliance will not reimburse stupidity. People love to laugh at others when they are down. There are only a select few people that will help you and sorry to say they are not in Ink. No authority figure stepped in to maintain order. Seems like a bar fight scene where everyone for himself. Is this how Ink want to run the alliance? I have been in here spying and let me just say that you guys don't look like you doing so well.

  • OOgliebo0glyw0OGlie

    been a week, which were the new corps that came in to replace AIR? anyone?

  • BLTA Hyper Snyper

    We're blue with INK and if I recall correctly we got. 308 man corp out here recently and more coming everyday. INK isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

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