darius

I’ll try to make this quick, since my biases around CSM7 member Darius III are well-known by this point.

On Friday, Darius III (D3) made an interesting claim on the EVE Online forums:

In mid 2012 I was contacted by a leader of one of the largest alliances in the game and he asked me if it was true that CCP was intercepting player communications.

Indeed that was true-CCP intercepted player communications.

EVE News 24 picked up on the story and expanded on it not long after the message was posted on the forums.  The short version, as I understand it?  CCP developers are known to play EVE, but are discouraged (but not forbidden) from taking place in large-scale sov warfare.  In this case, one CCP employee apparently claimed to Darius III that a second CCP employee playing EVE on the side of the Honey Badger Coalition used his access to tap into either personal EVE mails or alliance EVE mails of the Southern Coalition during the war between these two groups in mid-2012.

Under the various rules that manage communications between EVE players and CCP employees, plus the additional rules that D3 agreed to when he became part of the CSM, he believed he could not legally share this information at that time.  But at some point in the last six months, D3 apparently received additional confirmation from some public source that confirmed his original information.  Since the second source was public domain, he supposedly now feels comfortable revealing this information.

Remember: this isn’t me saying these things.  This is me doing my best to present what I believe happened from D3′s perspective while trying not to judge.  Got that?

Great.  Let’s start judging.

Let’s get the obvious bit out of the way: I would be stunned if CCP didn’t monitor and log in-game player communications.  If I make a claim of real-life threats or harassment and the supposed perpetrator denies it, how is CCP supposed to confirm or refute these claims and then take appropriate action without such logs?  So the real question here isn’t whether CCP intercepted those communications.  I think we can accept that as a given: CCP captures everything you write in EVE mails, alliance mails, and chat logs and stores it somewhere.  The real question is “Did a CCP employee use player communications to his or her own advantage, or to the advantage of the in-game entity that employee was part of?”

And that comes down to CCP internal accountability: who has access to those logs, and under what conditions may they be accessed?  That’s the part we don’t know about, and the part D3 isn’t sharing.

The problem here, though, is that the claim fails the Occam’s Razor test: what is more likely?  That a CCP employee risked his or her paycheck, reputation, and the welfare of his or her family for the very dubious benefit of providing intel on an alliance that was massively outnumbered and outgunned and wavering on the edge of defeat anyway?  Or that SoCo communications were compromised by one of EVE’s legion of player spies, and someone thought it would be “funny” to claim that their information came from a rogue CCP employee?  Which are you more likely to believe?  Yeah, me too.

But fine, let’s say for a moment that D3′s unnamed source (that he can’t reveal) is a current or former CCP employee who is absolutely irrefutable and his proof is likewise beyond question.  I can hardly think of a more ironic messenger for this message than someone who literally owes his positions on CSM6 and CSM7 to outright lying to hundreds and hundreds of EVE players over a long period of time!

Talk about the boy who cried wolf!

So yeah, I detect a bit of a credibility gap.  We’ll see where this story goes, if anywhere.

Ripard Teg

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  • Oops

    Until Darius or CCP show some proof that this happened……… just rumors and not really news worthy.

    P.S. A CCP employee has just given me 400 Guardian Vexors, selling them pretty cheap……….

    • gameon

      he only gave you 400 i got 600

      everything is recorded you only have to look at the api for that

      • Oops

        give me 100 that way we both have 500?

  • http://battorem.blogspot.com/ SgtSimons

    wait a former leading of a massive amount of people lying? that has never happened in eve or the real world, I am shocked and in total disbelief,

    • dualmotkany

      Really can't believe this whole story. I was under the impressinon that New Eden potitics are fair and straightforward. Fuck this game.

  • Darius' Mother

    It's not until you run into Darius in local that you realize how much of a cunt he actually is.

    • Darius

      Not a very nice thing to say mom.
      Stupid slut.

      • Fat Cobra

        I remember him promising plex for each vote. This game is gonna die with ppl like D3

  • SHADOORP

    lol, I don't know Darius, but Ripard and his kappelles are the gtfo local flash when I'm soloing in Syndicate. Good article.

  • History Buff

    "providing intel on an alliance that was massively outnumbered and outgunned and wavering on the edge of defeat anyway?"
    You have to remember that at the beginning of the Delve war Nulli Secunda had become EvE legends as the most improved and up and coming as well as PvP skilled alliance in the game, to the point that PL saw them as a threat and wanted to prove them wrong. PLs initial attack was causing embarrassment to PL as Nulli proved to be able to fight them on even terms, so PL called in the HBC to turn the tide who were then also surprised at the skilled deference and who called the CFC to avoid an embarrassing situation. so in the end Nulli and co (who were the main defenders of the Soco) were eventually completely overwhelmed with numbers. Although in the beginning people were trying to avoid Nulli stomping their reputation in the mud, so every trick was used.

    • Charles Darwin

      Anyone else remember it this way? Nope, me neither.

      • Cya

        Actually yeah, why else did it escalate in numbers with PL starting, Test and then Goons? Surely any of the above could cope with Nulli unless of course that is as it went down

      • The_Oracle86

        lol ummm yeppers it did happen. PL was getting stomped most of the even fights. The only time PL won was when they dropped supers, which started being the norm in the end. Then TEST came to help PL, then -A- came to nulli. After a couple of weeks of hitting a wall that was nulli and -A-, my oh my CFC gets a call on the batphone, but ofcourse they claim they come because the SOCO is the biggest threat to the CFC………. and now after they gave their pet all that space, TEST is now biting the hand that fed it………….. go figure, i couldnt have seen this coming even with a crystal ball…..

        • point of view

          PL manipulating people and assets via Meta Gaming! never, they are Leet! They would never stoop to such levels…….. I cry Heresy, burn the witch!

    • Titus Veridius

      This is not what I heard. ^.^

    • Actual History Buff

      Don't get me wrong, I give mad props to Nulli for being a kickass alliance and probably one of my top 3 favorite 0.0 entities but you're kind of full of crap. Nulli vs PL ended with Nulli losing…just not as badly as people usually do. They won maybe one notable battle on even terms. The rest they lost out numbered or not. I mean they were fairly close losses…but losses none the less.

      • nulli dude

        PL are elite pvpers I don't think abyone would claim otherwise. I prefer to pvp with them then against them.

  • droljica

    BU-HU whiners….

    This is player's driven game, as long as you play by ccp rules. If they wana spy people, they have every right to it, if they wanna ban people, they have every right, it they wanny give away Rhea BPO to goons, they have everyRIGHT to do it. If the wanna unilaterally change eula, they have every fucking RIGHT to do it, and all whiners should deal with it !!!

    Play by their rule or gtfo !!

    • Truth

      In a free game environment you are right but when people pay subscription fees to play the game and are being mislead by the game developers themselves – who play the same game but cheat to gain an advantage it borders on fraud and that's not even dipping into the waters of RMT'ing by the same people which then puts it into a different ballgame all together.
      The problem with MMO's in general is that everything does have a real life intrinsic value, this isn't giving out free weapons in COD, its cheating to gain an advantage at the highest level of the game and has huge knock on consequences throughout the game.

    • BntyHunter

      If they wana spy people, they have every right to it, if they wanna ban people, they have every right, it they wanny give away Rhea BPO to goons

      No they do not. You pay Eve to be a impartial referee, period. They need grounds to ban you, if you havent done anything wrong they are supposed to not be able to, just because they can doesnt make it right.

      If they give preferential treatment out that is also wrong.

      Just like Truth says in a F2play its different, but we pay just to be a part of "The Club". We are members.

      They are supposed to frame rules/laws in the universe to live by and make sure there is fair play according to those laws.

      If CCP did give a Rhea BPO it would be horribly bent, If they banned on a whim and not having a Eula reason that is also bent, Etc etc.

      They can change Eula, but that is changing laws we agree to. We agree by paying, we agree to them intercepting communications but trust they arent used to better the Devs personal gain in game, otherwise THERE IS NO FUCKING GAME!

  • Oh come on

    It depends how you look at this, an isolated incident with a ccp employee going rouge or just another instance of in game. Cheating by the people who run it….
    It's all fine and dandy saying he would risk his job but that's only true if its in his employment contact, since the eula states everything in the game is ccp's property he hasn't broken any law regarding to data protection or breach of confidentiality. So he hasn't risked anything in honesty.
    If the history of this game is anything to go by I'd more than likely believe this to be true, hell if expect it common place from devs… It's just another in a long line of real life manipulated events to aid ingame politics and gameplay…….
    Old strange reimbursements of certain people's ships when everyone else got nothing when t was lagged, BOBs t2 bpo lottery which they manage to get over half of, the bug (cough bullshit) where silos filled themselves for the best part of 4 years if you knew the secret setup, the very suspect placement of the tech moons in game and the very timely nerf on supers which only suited one group of players.
    You could even argue the idea to nerf the likes of nano as it meant the game became a blobfest and killed small scale pvp – that really only helped a few and wasn't what the masses wanted.

    So on probability, I'd say its not if it happend but how many others have actively done it for years?

    • FGTH

      Plus the war dec nerf which was pruiely aimed at protecting the massive alliances in game.

    • BntyHunter

      the very suspect placement of the tech moons in game and the very timely nerf on supers which only suited one group of players.
      You could even argue the idea to nerf the likes of nano as it meant the game became a blobfest and killed small scale pvp – that really only helped a few and wasn't what the masses wanted.

      All this can be traced back to influence from the Devs/GM`s who were major Alli leaders who still were in contact with there best buddies [Mittens].

      the more we learn about CCP the more we learn they are just like most nerds, they wanna be cool so when guys like Mittens act cool etc, they get the royal treatment for making the Employees feel cool and forget they are nerds :)

      This game has a horrible track record of Dev Abuse and partially because employees are still allowed to play, other companies, look down on current players and will only allow Devs to join Employee corps etc…Not Eve they promote players all the time and on top of that they allow them to KEEP THERE ALLIANCE TIES…LOL its breeding grounds for corruption esp since Eve makes people corrupt by saying scamming is ok [which is great] but people get confused when they can`t scam using inside tools as well.

      Eve is to sinister and cold of a place to allow any interference from employees.

      • Idiot

        Ehhh…………… My god you are an idiot.
        Tech is not where it is because Goons are there. Goons are there because Tech is there.
        The nerf of nano was to make the game more balanced. Trying to make other fittings then nano viable.

        When someone gets on the Dev team, there charachters get renamed and remodeld, and there corp history removed. Other then that what is CCP suposed to do to limit there interaction with old friends? Go all Gestapo on them and have someone monitor there internet activities? And would you ever take a job if you where told "Hey, you know those people you have been talking to for 2, 3 or even 4 years. Ye…. You cant talk to them anymore"

        So what is your idea? Ban all devs from playing the game they work on? That sunds awesome! Lets go with that.

        My god you are an idiot….

        • madhatta18

          for the benifit of the game and for the majorty of the plyers i say all the staff of eve should only be allowed to play on the test server s thts what its for thay should be banned from the rel server if thy hve rights to privlaged stuff that cn chnge the balance of the gme or give up them rights if thay want to ply on the rel server so yeah bring it on ban ll eve employees with privlages from the rel server

          • Mittens for CSM8

            Bro, if you stop jacking off so much your "a" key wouldnt be stuck and would probably work all the time.

        • Oh come on

          Tech was mysteriously spawned where old NC and Goons lived and had influence with Devs, which was about as dubious as the T2 lotto for bob – back then Goons where almost dead and rebuilding – they just happened to have a nice chunk of free isk to rebuild with.
          The nano nerf, which i incidentally said you might be able to put blame too (i see you ignored the rest of my post) was in line with the war dec nerf, big alliances where getting bugged by small roaming gangs which where 10x more organised than their carebears who tried to fight them when they came through their space. By nerfing nano it made defending carebear space 10x easier, it made gate camping easier and meant the fat alliances could bear all day in peace. It had fuck all to do with balance as you always had the option to use different doctrines and back then spider tanked BS was common place – nano just meant you could quickly roam areas without getting blobbed and having no way to win or get away, as it is now!
          With war decs, big alliances were losing ships to griefers in high sec because they where retarded and didn't use alts, then it gets nerfed to hell so that you simply can't afford to dec them…. In short they were introduced purely for them and with nano massively retarded the game into a numbers game which is exactly what the likes of NC, Goons etc wanted as they cant PVP for toffee and are and always will be F1 junkies.

          The main chars of the Devs get changed but as we all know most players, never mind leaders of alliances had multiple accounts and many unknown toons – it's funny that if i'm banned the CCP can find all my accounts instantly and ban them yet Dev's seem to keep their other accounts and remain unaccountable?
          Anyone who has a conflict of interest in a job should not be privy to anything which could bring the reputation of the company into question, to give an ex player direct access to being able to read players mails, have the ability to influence or worse be able to spawn items to other players is about as bad as it gets – CCP letting this knowingly happen is basically giving the finger to every person who pays to play this game, as it shows an inherent juvenile attitude towards friends / employee benefits and their own product which is what's brought into question.
          If i'm honest i don't think any ex player should ever have access to these sort of things, it should be kept totally impartial as any bad speculation or press over a game which such a small player base.
          Eve has pretty much stopped rising in numbers where other MMO's have gone through the roof in the same timescale, this means either people are leaving as quick as they are joining or that simply they are not attracting new players to the game – both of which they should be very worried about and keeping players in the game should be a highest priority, which it obviously isn't.

          • erroch

            You do realize that Tech was there before Goons were there, it just wasn't as important until the T2 changes that effectively nerfed R64's and turned Tech into a bottleneck resource, right? Granted I believe that did happen after the goons had moved to Delkin.

            Though I will say the nano nerf was definately a balance issue. The only real counter to nano was more nano. You could use the RR BS to be a deterrant to Nano, but you couldn't really stop nano fleets without another nano. Excepting when the nano pilots got sloppy and let traversal slip.

            I do miss my nanophoon though.

          • Oh come on

            Anything which caused a single resource in the game to become so prominent should have been spawned equaly to all areas of eve, to not do this just shows the blatent bias towards specific in-game groups. Maybe at best they thought it might create conflict but not until people realised just how bad it was and by then they had gorwn that fat that taking the space needed something special – like 200-300 supers…….

            Oh wait a sec that did happen just supers got nerfed before Goons got face raped like NC did, spooky timing!

            The Nano one i kind of agree needed a counter, as i said at the time but it didn't need nerfing as it was the only thing stopping Eve being a blobfest. It was still a blobfest but you could burn off and manage to engage a lot higher numbers but piloting skill and placement kept you alive – now it doesn't matter how good you are as long as tackle isn't totally retarded your dead, hell you wont even make the gate now :(
            You have to admit though that nerfing nano played straight into lower skill pointed, blob based alliances which couldnt cope with even small gangs raping their bears. This wasn't nano at fault it was retards trying to blob in PVE fit ravens with no FC's against a nano vaga gang which would simply pull ships off and pop them and bail.
            It benefited nobody in game more than them and as has never recovered to anything like it was, baring a 2bil 100mn tengu fit which which only works with limited numbers.

            Basically changing these fundamental things in game has caused what we have now, call them bad decisions if you want but when they all benefit the same group it looks very suspect and has pushed the game into what we have now. Insanely rich people controlling the entire of null, playing war games to keep the incoming ticking away……. and then they wonder why they have a rmt problem lol.
            That isk was meant to be spread around the game for hundreds of corps and alliances to fund their own agendas but as CCP forced the game to blob and put it all in one persons pocket, it simply fucks the game. All of this caused by things CCP have done and continue to do to help / protect / fund certain groups at the expense of their own product – it simply doesn't make any sense, not in business sense anyway but it is, go figure :|
            I wouldn't even mind that much if their own game could cope with the numbers they have forced it into but it can't, it's not built for half of the game to fight the other half without turning into a lag fest which is useless to everyone – yet again their own doing.

        • Noisrevbus

          “The nerf of nano was to make the game more balanced. Trying to make other fittings then nano viable”.

          That somehow implies there was nothing viable but nano before the change and that there would be more viability today. Both interpretations are false.

          I would agree with you that the game initially grew richer the first few expansions after the change, but the variations also came with very early warning-signs about numerical and financial malbalance; a mere year or two after the nerf we already started seeing the enriched concepts abandoned because the nerf wasn’t (counter-) balanced.

          From there all that we have seen is avoidance dealing with the issues it left, mimicry and streamlining of tactical concepts to the point that today’s environment is poor compared to the nano-era.

          But hey, keep telling yourself that balance or viability is better today. It’s as with the old Sov-system, not good, but try telling yourself what we have today is any better.

        • BntyHunter

          If you except a postition as a DEV/GM of a game, you are CHOSING [yes a choice ] to pick the one hobby you love in life and making it your full time job.

          Its not like they got randomly selected and told they can no longer have there buddies from 1-4 years back….Sorry but if you dont like it get another job.

          You seriously sound like they have nothing to do with getting employed, and its not there fault.

          Once more CCP`s job that we pay for is to be impartial REFEREE`s and law makers all at once, Ex-Players who leaned hard one way and still have only friends/bias towards one side is a horrible pick to become a impartial referee.

          Thats like having a crazy DIE HARD NFL FAN become the Ref for the superbowl and expect his final word to be truthful rather than impartial.

          Sorry but its a conflict of interest, and if you think all the other games out there have it wrong you are an Idiot, you think CCP is somehow ahead of the rest of the gamemakekers? That they are super human who can cut ties instantly?

          Sorry but I could never be completely impartial or even close to it, I would always be leaning towards skill over number because of the exp in my life and the way I approach things….Im honest about it, so know your telling me that guys like Darius who helped build Goons and poured thousands of hours into it can be? You are stupid if you think so.

          When they decide to get one of the coolest jobs ever, Im sorry but THEY NEED TO PICK, BEING A REFEREE OR PLAYING IN THERE SAME ALLIANCES.

          Do what other games did and have them play in a all CCP corp. And even that is still conflict of interest.

          CSM was supposed to be the doorway into the Eve playerbase NOT THE PAID GUYS WHO MAKE THE F*cking game. Instead allowing all these Ex-Directs etc renders the CSM useless because those programmers think they know better because they were Ex-Players…If you are so blind to this odds are your guys are now Mods/Devs and you want them where they are.

        • SG Goonslap

          Goons are there because their space was given to them by TCF a long time ago when Goons were poor beaten refugees from Providence … what a mistake that was.

      • Nullibro

        You can also add that, the guy currently at the head of the most powerful and rich coalition in the game is apparently a multi-millionaire. How easy it is for a CCP Dev to become "exploitable" $$$.

  • Nignignignigspic

    D3 is just starting his campaign for the next CSM.

    This will evolve into him being a hero, but he should really be an hero by biomassing…

  • Yoji

    You skip over a few important question there my friend.

    CCP might have access to all player communication, if needed. I dont believe they save copys of all logs, as it would be an increadible waste of process power and storage space. They would have to collect all logs from every system, chatroom, convo, etz etz. I would believe that when a situation arrises that would require them to access logs, they would simple ask/pull them from the players involved.

    Furtheremore, i believe that under EU law, my electronic communication is protected under the 'freedom of communication' principle of the EU dataprivacy directive, as well as the OECD guidelines. Im not sure wat the EULA says specificly (it might say that by accapting the EULA we give concent for tracking/storage), but im pretty sure an organization is not allowed to monitor and track the conversations of people. Even if it is a chatroom in a game.

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  • BntyHunter

    Come on you cant use the Occums Razor test…That would assume human nature was purely scientific and not emotional and fouled creatures.

    Sorry but if this was the case then T20 would have never done the things he had and risked his career etc, Bill Clinton wouldn`t have screwed interns and Politicians in general wouldn`t have scandals.

    Im not saying it happened, but IMO there is no way a player who is commited as I am could see Emails of arch enemies like CFC that were juicy fat targets and not change the way I played. Im not saying I would run around and tell people but lets say I got a mail or saw a mail not on purpose that said CFc was going to jack Tech prices for the month…You honestly think I wouldn`t start a account and buy shitloads of Tech before it happend?

    This is why im sorry but I dont think anyone who reviews and personal info should be able to play Eve ATT ALL, BAR NONE.

    You cant tell me a guy like GSF-Darius can go from 3 year director to not loving GSF overnight because he got a job. And even when people try to be fair when you love something and put in time and all your BFF`s are in that Alli, im sorry but unaware or not they will lean towards that group.

    So Darius might not intentionally want to aid GSF but all the Pych classes I took explained how much the subconscious can affect decisions, and no one can tell me he wouldnt be for Tech, and against Blobbing restrictions etc.

    Now Kil2 will be different as they were never really uber political like Goons and killed everyone. But there are millions of programmers who are uber talanted and millons who could monitor Communications etc, THEY SHOULD NEVER HAVE GUYS PLAYING IN 00 SEC…EVER

    At best case they will be totally bias and at worst case they totally taint the game, Im absolutely positive there has been more T20 stuff going on that has been hidden. And the T20 Dmg that was done was never truly fixed, he was just punished, but once those guys affect the game its no longer a free for all, and thats what makes Eve great.

    So Im sorry but this could totally happen and to make it simple, No Eve employee should be able to play the game in this capacity in any real political alliance`s etc and the Communications review`s need to be limited to people who dont play at all.

    To say people will think before doing dumb things and they wouldnt risk there careers or important RL issues, is just retarded, if that were the case there would be no crime, and no scandals ever….But people do make mistakes and make horrible judgement calls all the time, CCP guys are no better…Once more T20 scandals.

  • XaindeSleena

    I love how you (Ripard Teg) have used a story by D3 to blow your own trumpet. You Sir/Madam are a true politician. This post is nothing but a swipe at a CSM representative of which office you do not hold. Who is the boy and are you the wolf?

  • Yoji

    Deleting comments again i see……

  • since 03

    Dev's playing the game there working on cheating? nah this could never happen lol jesus people grow a brain, of course devs should not be allowed to play a game there working on, its called conflict of interest.

    • Noisrevbus

      So on one end we complain about how they don’t play the “real game” enough to understand the social machinations required to build the game; and on the next we complain that they play at all.

      GG.

  • T20

    I'm BACK

  • Gam_Samgee

    Let's think for a moment. In order to access alliance mails, which is what the alleged CCP misconduct did, one only needs a character in that alliance. This is so stupidly easy to access that is boggles the mind to think that a CCP dev would need to cheat in order to obtain it. Hell all you need is a single member of that alliance to be an alt or a spy. Or you could read the EVEmails on EVE skunk, which had access to almost all the major alliances in the SoCo at the time. Even if the HBC was so vastly incompetent that they couldn't do either of those things, the CFC has access to these resources and were allied and directly involved in that war and were s haring intel. Let's be honest here. Darius is accusing CCP of cheating in a manner in which less than 30 seconds of cursory googling would reveal the same information.

  • abc123

    Good story Bro!!! Well some people need to amuse the masses so they can emo rage in here. But you could of just made it easier for everyone with your story with this:

    Pandamic Legion = Known Meta gamers and cheaters and admit to these tactics. Have Good Fleet tactics cause they already know whats coming. But when faced with the unknown – They are like the rest of us. LOSERS!!!!

    Goons = Known Scammers and Will make deals to attain power. Only Good in Blob Fleets. Orbit and Press F1 FTW.

    TEST = Goons whipping boys when nothing going on. Try every day to be like Goons. Only Good in Blob Fleets. Orbit and Press F1 FTW.

    CSM = PL + Goons + Test + Others Who know better than to go against the tide. CSM is a JOKE!!!!

    CCP employee (Ex Goon/PL/TEST) = Why would you exspect anything different.

    WHY ARE YOU ALL SHOCKED!!! IF YOU PUT KNOW CHEATERS – HACKS – META GAMERS – SCAMMERS IN THE SAME ROOM, WHY ACT SUPRISED WHEN IT HAPPENS.

  • Zentar

    Opinion news reporting… Soon comming to a station near you!

  • Daffy Duck

    This CCP FAVORITISM is really starting to bug me.

    Why CCP Manifest needs to publicise a certain site openly biased towards one of the PLAYER coalitns in game on the an OFFICIAL dev blog ???