It has been quite a few weeks since last I posted. I blame the holidays and the constant griefing of my wallet that friends and family have participated in.
One of the major news stories of 2013 is the deployment of N3 to the east. Their sov grind has finally come to a conclusion and they now hold Immensia, Tenerefis, Omist and parts of Detorid.
A post from the Nulli Secunda forums outlines the deployment and other information regarding finances and the introduction of a new Abaddon MJD test doctrine. There is also a bit of information regarding what is left of the NCC.
Gypsy is disbanding while WHYso is bleeding members. INK has reset N3 and is moving towards an -A- style alliance. I’d like to think their diplomats are far superior to those of -A- so we’ll have to see how that goes. RA continues to lose capital ships but are currently blue with NCdot. I’m unsure if the remainder of N3 has also blued up with the Russians.
Updated due to high demand of Ke$ha.
NEW YEAR, NEW FOCUSED CAMPAIGN
Time for us to kick things off for the new year with a new focus for our alliance and our coalition partners. We’ve got an upcoming deployment that will kick off Friday, 11 January. We will be staging in I-1QKL. We will be bringing all of our standard fleet concepts with us.We kick off this campaign on the heels of some enormous diplomatic wrangling amongst the larger powers that exist in various sub groups and coalitions throughout our south/eastern area. As some of you may have noticed, we have reset INK due to what can only be called “Elite PVP Syndrome.” Our (still) friends in INK do not want to blue up the entire coalition, but only hold a couple of our alliances blue. This causes problems with renters, allies, and neutrals on jump bridges and can’t really be tolerated, so we either have to be all blue or no blue. INK doesn’t want to blue up from the entirety of Wicked Creek to Omist (4 regions and 8 different alliances) so they will be blue with none. This isn’t something to worry about as they’re not the type of people to go camp in our systems or our renters, and that’s not something we will do to them either. They have made the decision to remain relevant in only their small area and with the neighbors they have, and that’s okay by me and I don’t think that we should have to worry about them. In the case of any of us coming under threat, obviously, they would still be inclined to help us.
This, however, isn’t the only thing that has been going on recently. Gypsy Band is disbanding. They’ll be merging some of their stuff into RA, others may be joining the wulfpax RUS RUS )) alliance in Stain. This leaves a power vacuum in the region which we must fill. RA is attempting to gain as much of a foothold into the area as possible, laying claim to Cache, Insmother, Scalding Pass, and Wicked Creek. Not exactly sure why RA wants to hold as much space as they do, but we’re looking into diplomatic solutions to control the amount of real estate owned by RA. RA is not part of our coalition, they’re not part of anyone’s coalition really, so they are attempting to leverage their position to the detriment of everyone else involved.
We undertake this campaign because quite frankly, we can’t afford to leave this war half finished. We need to step up the pace, place ourselves on the borders of our space and dive into SOLAR FLEET and applicable allies space wholeheartedly. With the escalation of this campaign we will see action in all timezones, AU, EU, US, including fighting in the Chinese Timezone. Rest assured, we will see some good PVP.
This fight is important to us because of the large presence SOLAR can be on a border that we dont work towards securing. Their foothold there is a very potent area for them to strike at us and when they have momentum they are an extremely strong group. They will put up a hell of a fight to hold onto what remains of their space.
Our goals for this portion of the campaign are simple:
-Eliminate SOLAR FLEET presence in Insmother.
-Put major pressure on SOLAR FLEET allies.
-Gain more experience working together as a group.So what can you do to help? Help your corpmates, alliancemates and buddies from the coalition get moved into our staging system. Form carrier move chains. They’re easy. Make an effort to help everyone move all of the ships and items they need moved. You can also make sure you’re logging in and checking the S2N forum for formup information. It’s easily accessible on the top of the page.
UPDATES TO FINANCES, COALITION RENTERS
Our coalition wallet is healthy, we’re making a good penny off of the various programs we have running now. Our coalition has been doing quite well financially, and we will continue to improve. Our income growth is very rapid and we are filling out rental space quickly.
We’re moving forward with our coalition renter scheme. This scheme has helped us improve our renter totals quickly and with very high effectiveness. There are a few individuals from almost every coalition alliance involved. We’re looking to continue to run things this way because as it stands now, our program is only going to get more effective.
I plan on publishing some general wallet and accounting data to the public as soon as we’re finished developing an easy to digest and use way to display this information that is both functional and informational.
SHIP CONCEPT CHANGES, MORE TO COME!
We’ve recently added in an Abaddon fleet concept. Make sure you purchase these ships and get them fit out appropriately. They will be seeing a lot of use. They are a strong Armor BS that we will be using for our MJD capabilities, as well as a few other various things. They are also supported by Armor Triage, vice Shield, which we seem to get in a larger amount.
We’re looking to implement the Chimera based Shield Slowcat fleet (as an addition, not a replacement). We’re going to offer a bonus for this fleet concept and those that show up in the appropriately fit Chimera. Every Chimera pilot will be eligible for a 1 time refund of the Caldari Carrier skillbook cost. We will determine who is eligible for this refund based on fleet attendance. We don’t have a set timeline for that implementation, but we do still plan on doing it, stay tuned for that.
We’re also looking to get a few more upgrades (not replacements) to our other existing fleet concepts (like AHACs). Stand by for more on that. There may be some temporary refits and stuff to hold us over.
SO, HOW ARE WE DOING AS A COALITION?
That is a question I am asked with high frequency. Sadly, I’m not really able to answer it well, yet. S2N and NCdot are well accustomed to working together. On the flip side, though, we should be able to get things working together well via this deployment. The idea is to get set up for working together on a campaign like this, where we focus on getting a target burned down and work on our numbers, getting used to flying together, and all of those fun things.
In conclusion: BE READY FOR THIS DEPLOYMENT! We’re moving forward quickly and installing ourselves in Insmother.
It is also worth noting that Pandemic Legion is also pushing into Insmother and is fighting alongside N3 to push SOLAR further to the east. Initial engagements have swung in the favor of N3 and PL but we will have to see how SOLAR reacts to being pushed into a corner.
Needs most cowbell…
Not much solar can do tbh
true.
It is just another idiotic blob war with a fixed winner before it even started. Have fun shooting structures.
ok
'all your space is belong to us"
You just summed up EVE, buddy.
The interesting fights happen around the big conflicts – not in the middle of them.
Look like Nulli with the help of PL and the blessing of Goons Moon Goo bro pack is going the make eve's nullsec a complete blue donut.
Nothing they can do, plenty they could have done with a bit of foresight. When NC. offered SOLAR all of their Geminate tech moons just to not fight? Yeah, probably should have taken that offer. Instead they took CFC's offer of (?) to keep the fighting going. Hope that (?) was worth it, whatever it was.
Lol…
I swear everytime there is an article about Solar, someone mentions this bullshit…
Frankly, I'm tired of hearing it…Solar didn't take any crappy deals or anything, they were fighting NC. for the space that was taken from them. It was at least a month or so before CFC decided to show theirs heads around.
Yes, NC. did offer a deal to Solar, but they refused because they wanted their lost sov. CFC never made an offer, I don't know where you got this information but it's false…
It was obvious that CFC wanted Tribute and Vale, so the CFC invasion of those regions were just a matter of time.
well they didnt stop at that, the went on a firesale and started taking all they could get..
NC. offered SOLAR part of CFC's Tribute tech moons, get your fact stright. And NC. was red with SOLAR for nearly year, or somewhat.
We will die for the motherland!
please do will make the grinding of your space much more enjoyable
Needless really, solar bloc could be within cfc holding right now if they hadn't sealed there fates and started a second front vs front vs dotbros to vulture tech, wich they now ofc are losing if not already lost lol. Fools till the last!
NCDOT attacked CFC while fighting SOLAR, fucktard.
Solar redeployed away from the Geminate front and stopped fighting us before we attacked the CFC.
Most of Solar and their remaining allies (pets w/e you wanna call em) would rather hole up in lowsec, rebuild and wait for an opportunity to return than to snuggle up with CFC….
Yes, that's right. Yes I believe you will.
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.
bye solar, i hope they remove solar altogether tbh, wish ink would join in, in this fight
INK is in the solar fight every day, they send fleets into us we send fleets into them and we happily shoot each other in the face, that's all we want.
Good PVP to have. I loled!
The only problem of taking over Solar space are the hundreds of timers for the HBC sub-coalition. Since PL and other elite PVPers cant be assed to do it alone, the N3 coalition needs to mobilize as many retards as possible to make them grind structures.
who the fuck is helmut… hbc sub-coalition? no such thing
go grind some structures and dont think too much. It is not good for you.
i see your a mad its ok we will have your space soon enough
As we know having fuck too s of retards is the only benifit HBC/cfc brings N3. Leave the fighting to the experts and let the sov grinding to go to fucktards such as HBC/cfc!
I'm looking forward to having this all done. There's two reasons – the blobs of massiveness do get old, and the after-party is going to be absolutely spectacular. The present 'get-along-club' mentality will evaporate when there are no Solar or SolarPets to shoot. How long before GSF and / or Razor look southeast while HBC / NS / etc look northwest….?
Good Fights – They Can Still be Had. Once this is done I think the GFs will resume. Until then it's just a slaughter.
Will they clash or will they just find new people to throw to the lions. I think people have got to used to playing on the winning side and rather than a major war various fodder will get re-set and promptly stomped by the rest.
Nothing lasts forever.
One by one, Every alliance that isn't goons or pets is being destroyed. Soon there will be none left.
cant wait till test kills cfc because with pl they are far stronger
patience, young padwan.
You need a lot more patience! First you go shoot some Solar structures.
If that happened, I think most of New Eden would happily join in and hammer CFC.
because Solar isnt blue to Goons right…..
i hope tey defeat solar quick and then blue up whats left , lets see how that turns out.
after solar they will establish a strong structure and go up against goons again, if they manage to be fast enough they could go with test and then good bye goonswarm. But the goal is not the entire solarspace for now, so stay tuned whats gonna happen
rest of N3 = PL+NC. coat hook.
That's why both these alliances camp Nulli's space then, clearly. You retard
yes nc. our close allies camp our system all the time
Well they do… Easier to camp here than to come down from where they live for all our ops xD
Hey why didn't this site post with my normal account. Fixit.
Because we all believe Nulli would try and take on Solar on their own….
NC. and Nulli are blue to each other, "retard"
RA wants all that space because they think it is their god damn right to own all of it since they had it for years. Also they need some place to put their massive botting army.
/signed
Vets also all remember RA and Solar used to bot together for many years.
yeah i remember those days.
Yea, but Red Alliance had way more botters than Solar…
if you say so
No one in Nulli cares for RA.
Are the new Nulli Abaddons by any chance Arti Abaddons?
Because Insmother + Arti Abaddons, I am just having a deja vu here.
fuck no
ogod dont say they are
Solar had an opportunity to create a new 3rd power bloc along with -A- by fighting alongside the Dotbros in Venal/Trib/Vale at a time when the Dotbros had the upper hand. Instead, they chose to try and vulture tech moons and do the CFC's bidding (or something at least uncannily identical to what CFC would have wanted). In doing so, Solar sealed their fate. We don't forget treachery like that.
dude they was fight Nc month before CFC war .
We don't forget treachery like that. WTF they not been blue for like 3 years since they took razor space with the DRF
yes solar did stop attacking about an week before because they when for some important -A- timer
also was Nc not blue and had the tech argment and then broke it? HMM
did Nc not help kill raiden?
treachery? WTf does this word mean in eve
also you going too say solar and goons help each other in gem Yes once NC ran from solar and co as they took out tech tower they ran into an goons fleet and hotdrop tracking dread solar scout report this and we came sorry that you did it 7 jump away from 400 people you just had an fight with ( yes Fc's order us not too attack the goons under solar order)
I wouldn't consider it "treachery", but it was still a bad call. They were offered all the tech moons in Geminate in exchange for a ceasefire. That would have been a pretty good deal, frankly.
This exactly it wasn`t a backstabbing at all, just a stupid move that will lead to SB losing its position in game.
All they had to do was fight there natural enemy Goons, they didn`t have to like N3/DotBros just fight with them to help IRC+Themselves…..GSF right now is licking there Chops waiting for the other 40+ Techmoons, Solar was really retarded and while Gypsie Block+Irc + more allies tried to tell them it was stupid they all fallowed Mactep over the cliff
To all those retarded fucks that are in denial,CFC + Solar Bloc more than 2:1 outnumering Dotbros.
And Clear FACTUAL proof to show how much in denial all the dumb fucks are that Neg Clear facts. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14…. http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=15316
Just 1 example of Solar/CFC vs Dotbros and Dotbros still hammering the nubs like spartans!
CFC pinged for fleets to help solar bloc on the 2nd front they started vs Dotbros to try and vulture tech,wich they still where unable to do until NCdot redeployed far away and no longer defended there Gem assets!
Also on comms for numerous fights it was said…as I was listening myself to not shoot CFC,this was relayed from Solar Pets Comms.
Stick that in Pipe an smoke it Denialtard!
Correct Evekill link,was pasting from a fooked paste bin!
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14….
You do realise that the killmail you linked is from 2007 and the Gem/Vale conflict happened in 2012…
[quote]Battle Summary for VL3I-M, 2007-11-05 [/quote]
Thanks for the 2007 battle report bro, I'm sure that gives a clear example as to current events.
lol , u mad bro ?
Give him a break, he's been around since '03… lulz
Lol dead drake your so bad! Ncdot dropped tracking dreads ontop of the cfc fleet on gate in perpetration for solar blocs bs fleet to ump through gate! So your intel musta of been real good, like you could see them yourself even at point blank lol. Cfc were supporting solar bloc for a good half hr before any dreads were dropped. Try at least attempt to lie better!
NC and there fight wasn`t a war then, it was petty squabbles about a few moons.
Did NC. chase SOLAR and try to bust there SOV? Nope not even close, all the fights were contained to Moon POS`s for the most part.
But SB came and started busting SOV from NCDOT+Evoke….There is a major difference there.
When they attacked PL moons we [NC.] could have kept chasing them and ran them down and involved PL in the hunt, but instead we just did what we promised and watched a buddies SOV, no more no less, and unless you a major carebear you understand thats not war, thats 00 sec…..But busting SOV and going 8/10 fights with a already bloated 28k Coalition adding your 15k Troops IS WAR.
SB could have definitely had NCDOT/Nulli and BL right now as its brother members in a solid 3rd Coalition/Block and with numbers+ Solid pilots IMO no one could have beat them and AAA would not have been beaten so badly IMO.
But it was clear Mactep went full retard, where as before he was highly respected.
Treachery? What treachery? Like when NC. refused to help WN. when goons attacked Branch? or like when NC. left Raiden. to hang when they were fighting the goons? Or maybe when NC. attacked SOLAR a month before the war against goons, trying to take over their tech and space and shit in their lawn? I can see how SOLAR should have been all happy and help NC. when they inevitably got dunked by goons. These Russians must be idiots. They're supposed to help the people that were shitting on them the day before, not fight them…
Well, SOLAR attacked ncdot tech before and BntyHunter and other N3 fanboys talk about it all the time. But they always forget that NCdot attacked SOLAR last winter, along with the PL, under contract with x_Death. The contract ended and NCdot guys decided that war is over. But this is not the case for SOLAR, they never stopped that war.
NCdot had the chance to take the fight to the CFC and win allies when the CFC moved south to bail out the HBC.
They did not and prosecuted a war against Solar instead.
CFC returned home and invaded Tribute.
NCdot precede to bitch and whine about Solar not dropping hostilities to help them out and the fact that all the entities they've done nothing to ingratiate themselves with in the past, not coming to bail out their self interested ass. Seeing the writing on the wall they pack their bags and along with the run-away Nulli become part of puppet alliance of the HBC Goon affiliate, claiming special relationship with Bluedoo but otherwise in public denial of their subservience. Go to work on completing the blue doughnut by claiming massive treachery on the only people who are not part of circle jerk.
I seem to remember the last time solar was doomed…
What makes this time any differant?
People said the same about -A- for long enough, now look where they are
Solar isn't -a-. They both did have basicly the same fall back plan. If attacked fall back to stain(cashe) and win. PL couldn't take them down before i doubt that 'N3' has the fortitude to grind through all those stations/systems. Also there still is the unknown factor of RA if they continue to feel entitled to that space at some point there will be a conflict with them as well. Solar also has the option, and the deep pockets to buy help if needed.
you do realize that PL isnt buyable anymore, there arent really any other options to buy left… no solar is all alone with theyr friends
N3 contains NCDOT right? The same NCDOT that spent months fighting a CFC blob to a standstill before eventually cutting their losses? If they can hold off a CFC assault then I imagine they'll do just fine on an offensive campaign against an opponent less blessed with numbers. Okay, so Solar can still blob but it's no match for CFC(as much as it disturbs me to be typing those words…) during that Tribute campaign.
nc and pl help legion and Ra last time to take cache Nc left after couple month then PL left as they had sbu so many system and Rf so many pos but only taken like 2 system and about 6 station
NCDOT have always gained victor over Solar in the past in the campaigns,solar win a few battles here an there,but Generally Solar have only gained strategic success in the past when NCdot no longer wish to hold assets and relocate.
You forget Evoke.
The idea isn't to destroy them it is to push them out of the 2 regions directly east of us which still leaves them with Perrigan Falls, Outer Passage, The Spire and their holdings in Geminate. Will this happen, I guess we will find out.
Gypsy band aren't just disbanding they're merging with RA just fyi
I've heard about half are going to the new russian stain alliance.
Correction:
Merging with ROL and -A-
Haw can pl go against former rmt partners, they did'nt get pay'd ?
SOLAR backstabbed NC and Nulli durning the Tribute wars. Well, shit is going to fly their way now and they deserve it.
solar war was 2 month before the nc /goon war so backstabbing really also that would mean that solar would have been blue too Nc i think the last time was when razor and thing loss their space like 2-3 year ago so im not sur what you been smoking but can you share pls
Backstabbing implies that they were friends before that, which was definitely not the case. NC. did backstab BL during the Tribute wars though, and no longer having them on their side was a decisive factor in why they lost that war.
"Backstabbing"? Yeah, right.
Don't take up the scepter of justice, bud. This is about joining up the gang bang, trying to get some space and growing epeen. That's OK – that's EVE. To profess otherwise is just laughable… as if you're here for some higher purpose. WAY too high an opinion of yourself.
dont forget about solar back stabbing -A- when they needed help. After -A- helped save solar from destruction in the DRF civil war.
Sorry, Nulli takes the cake though.
We deploy to help them fight. Kill more than any alliance on our side. Nulli says fuck this and runs off quiting acting all surprised that the combined force of CFC/HBC couldn't be smashed in a weekend. Then runs of north, lossing again to CFC alone, quits and finally comes south on to invade the people that actually tried to help them… AAA space while joining the enemy, the HBC. I'd take SOLAR as an ally any day of the week. I've seen this time and again from Nulli on the years. N3 will not last and is already in fact falling to shit.
Keep drinking that -A- cool-aid!
If by "deploy to help them fight" you mean the couple of thrashers and six tengus you deployed to Delve while TELLING US to retreat to NPC then it is no wonder why -A- fell apart and also no wonder why Nulli said "Fuck those retards" and reset you.
No, N3 is getting stronger every day and is here to stay while -A- falls victim of their own outdated prophecies. I am glad to have been part of the instrument of destruction that removed the scabrous infestation that was -A-.
Respectfully yours and love you forever,
nulliPilot
What backstabbing? Solar was hostile to Ncdot way before goons went for tribute or even Raiden for that matter. What was ncdot expecting them to do? I can understand you being annoyed that Solar decided to remain hostile (although you ought to blame your own leadership for that to some extent), but it's not as if there was any betrayal. Solar's intent was always pretty clear.
Wait, NC. attacks SOLAR 2 months before the Tribute war starts, tries to take over some of their space and tech. And then they get entangled in a fight with goons and declare the war against SOLAR over and SOLAR should help them against goons. Without asking them or making a treaty. SOLAR should just pass over that fact and help the guys that attacked them and went for their space, out of the sheer goodness of their heart. Excuse me if find this ridiculous. If there was any backstabbing done it was by NC. which backstabbed first WN. and then Raiden. SOLAR didn't backstab anyone.
I'm not saying that it might have been a better choice to help NC., but to say that SOLAR was obliged to help them by ignoring all the shit that NC. dumped on them is quite frankly retarded. They were in no obligation, moral or other, to help them. One thing that is particular to Russians is that they don't give their friendship easily but once they do they're the most steadfast allies you can have. NC. did nothing to gain their friendship, they did the exact opposite and took a shit in their lawn. Yet they expected them to help when goons invaded. I can see how that makes sense…
First off the conflict 2 months prior to the Tribute war was started by Solar when they hotdropped our cpaital fleet with brick squad on one of our towers. Second this Solar loyalty you proclaim didn't help -A- much even after -A- saved Solar from xdeath.
You mean just like when NC. actively fucked WN. and then left Raiden. to die while they where on contract from xxdeath (now and basically always CFC members) with your friends test (then full CFC members), Followed by a NIP the "evil" CFC while they burnt you new friends Nulli's lands.
Oh and in Solars and the DC eyes they didn't start the war 2 months before Tribute, they continued it from you much earlier aggression
Strangely, I do not see this fight against Solar as a means of revenge for what they did when we were fighting the CFC in the north. I see this more as an opportunity to influence the current null sec situation. The fall of SOLAR could mean big in the current balance. I feel most of my bros would agree on this. I did not feel that much bitterness when SOLAR moved on our backs during the Tribute campaign. Disapointment yes, but a desire for vengence? Not really.
There was no Solar "backstabbing". Their hostility to NCDOT was longstanding and at least partially rooted in NCDOT's participation in PL's attempted bayonetting of SOLAR, which considerably predated any hostilities in the north. Anybody expecting any sort of friendly relationships between NCDOT and SOLAR was guilty of two crimes:
1) Gross ignorance of the historico-political terrain.
2) Underestimation of Russians' capacity to carry grudges.
Both are cardinal sins and tend to be punished accordingly.
Backstabbing was the wrong word to use here.NC and SOLAR were never on friendly terms. I apologize. What i mean here is that SOLAR took advantage of the Goon assault on Tribute to add more grief and pressure on NC + allies.
Now when NC and co have gathered themselves and Tribute is behind them they are ready to take on SOLAR.
Less hate ppl. It's only a game with pseudopolitics.
I have nothing but respect for Solar, as do most I N3 I believe.
We may not be happy with some of their past actions, and we are going to do our best to take "some" of their space.
Think of it as them paying restitution for their actions while we were north.
That said, I hope we don't try to kill off Solar, or remove them all out. They make this game better, I am glad they are around. I think a lot of N3 shares my view.
Not really.. everyone knows solar is shit. And i really dont care if they disband.
Solar is most definitely not shit, they just chose their allies very very poorly.
Solar is nor shit or choose their allies poorly…
Your an idiot to believe this…
Nope SB is def not shit, but if you can`t admit they did something very stupid like move 10k more CFC right into Geminate and buy Evokes moons in which now they cant touch without war+ losing to the N3+PL then you are blind and stubborn.
They could have owned all Gem+Vale then called a cease fire with GSF, now CFC took all those 150 potential Moons they could have had, some of the best space to rent out and they will be fighting Goons just as soon as GSF gets bored after IRC…..Doomed themselves.
There former CFC mates will eat them just as fast as they are able or they will be forced to join them…..Yeah they pick great Allies
Solar are not allies to cfc or even close… sorry that not all alliances are bitches who need to blue half of eve to get space… nc. still has a fight on their hands
Unfortunately by attacking Solar all you are really doing is helping CFC,Goons. NC's word is slightly dubious at best so all this talk about back stabbing etc can be taken with a pinch of salt.
Wow Nulli have taken on another 3 Ev0ke corps today aswell should be interesting if there also involved in the deployment in Insmother one of the corps has a fair few supers to go around
Apparently most ev0ke corps going to nulli.
ev0ke super pilots are no noobs. they've got plenty of capable super fc:s and fly them very carefully
Nulli has no supers. All the Evoke super pilots are joining NC.
As for the Abaddon with a MJD fleet concept… well, I guess only time will tell if its any good or not. No one has really tried to use them yet so no one knows what to expect and I doubt solar will either till they see the fleet concept in action. Either way it could be fairly successfull or horribly fail, like most new fleet concepts I suppose lol. It will be interesting to see how it works though
All this fighting in the South benefits the wrong side – goons and Test. Solar and N3 should double team the Honey Botter Coalition while Black Legion, 401k and friends sting the CFC in the North.
I feel most of what your saying I agree with. But the hbc and n3 have a stronger relationship than you think and some smaller groups of the CFC are deploying into the fray very soon. Just have to wait till bl gets it shit together and realizes this. Also razor/irc is a conflicted situation only razor wants to invade their space others don't want to see razor go. But there is a stronger possibility of a sov war between the hbc and cfc grows each day
Pretty sure n3's plan is to group up with hbc and go for the cfc. At some point. Also it isn't a strain on solar having sov, they rent the shit and make a lot doing it.
Krom leading RA's capital fleet…must watch
They've got Nync as well.
I think that others want to believe that HBC and N3 has a better relation then we really have. Except for NCdot we all have HBC alliances red at the moment and NCdot has only PL blue because of the history between them. We fight HBC when ever we can but in come fights we have chosen not to fight them and instead fighting our main enemy witch is at this point SOLAR. N3 isn't ready to take on a major fight with HBC at this point even tho i think that will happen further down the line.
What side will N3 take if HBC starts a war with CFC? At that point i think that N3 would go for the killing blow of SOLAR or go after CFC. Never under the same flag and never with blue standings tho. CFC has been protecting SOLAR against NCdot and Nulli in the past by attacking NCdot space. Solar is as bad as -A- with their bullshit and they needs to die as well.
Seriously, the bullshit that is seen here in sometimes unbelievable….
What is this bullshit you are talking about? and How is Solar as bad as -A-? They haven't left their allies to die, or ran in the face of destruction…
I believe sir, you are mad…
Are you mad, bro?
Just dumb
He mad. and idiot to boot.
WTF are you talking about? SOLAR has made it clear time and again, they are first and always looking to themselves, which TBH is fine unless you state otherwise.
Gypsies, left because they sided with GSF, which was dumb and they asked SB [Solar Block] not to do. Then SB lost more and more of there Allies because of this. Then IRC had to stop fighting a major war because SB had sided with GSF 8/10 fights, this led to IRC being invaded and semi stripped of there lands.
They chose many times there immediate needs over the smart long term decisions and that of there Allies, lie to yourself all you want but if SB hints that NCDOT was disloyal to guys like RAIDEN for not helping fast enough, then SB straight up was liable for stripping and killing there Allies and working hand in hand with the biggest Coalition in the game.
No.. you didn't watch as your allies was run over by HBC without lifting finger right? Instead you where busy with attacking NCdot and help your Goon friends. We came and helped you guys out when PL and xxdeath was raping your asses. Then when we needed you the most your fucked us over like you always do and thought only about your self. That's the reason why SOLAR is going to burn.
NC. and PL are neutral you idiot.
did you 2 really not get the joke -_-
bullsh*t. this techmoon offer. and why would solar want the geminate ones when it could pick the ones closer to itself? also ncdot has shown its word is crap. they wouldn't have let solar hang onto them anyways. solar fleet> the last big block alliance with its word still good in eve online.
I have never heard of this tech moon offer but you are also an idiot for saying why would Solar want the Geminate ones when it could pick the ones closer to itself. There are no tech moons closer to them than Geminate and the ones in Geminate were the ones they were fighting for. We would have let them keep them unless they started a war with us like they did when we took them in the months prior to the CFC war.
Also what about solar fleet's alliance with -A-? They didn't do shit to help them after all the help -A- gave them in fighting against xdeath.
you are putting it wrong :
-A- went to help solar only because without solar , they were about to loose the war against drf.
they were roaming in lowsec for gudfight , and PL and NCdot were whipping them out of the south when XIX and solar started to fight.
your retarded solar was drf
you're
phew! That was close…
Solar are fun to fight but dumb as fuck as is confirmed by the situation they are in ATM. This situation was foreseen and was sealing solar blocs fate when they tried culturing tech from dotbros opening a second from rather than hammering goons. This is solar blocs biggest mistake wich is going to lead to there downfall. In transition to this downfall as we speak!
ex best pvp alliance !
http://rooksandkings.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail…
you should really change the title to
"We were getting our asses handed to us, so we had to call in PL and help with SOLAR and Pets."
why would N3 attck only in Insmother, when they could take the Tech moons in Drone Regions, too?
what techmoons?
Even if we took Tech we couldn`t hold them without massive number support, we just can`t fight Solars 300 fleets+ CFC`s 500.
there's like 5-7 moons total in the all drone regions..
well they gotta start somewhere:)
indeed
hopefully it does not go the 'yamamato-way'..To quote him: "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant"
SOLAR is in no way the US. It does not have the natural resources and rely`s on renters instead of Moons 60 jumps behind lines like GSF/CFC did.
SOLAR is more like Germany was, skilled fighters, but limited resources, and less SC`s than N3
thats true now start to sing together with our loved Captain Ramius http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW18-2-QrIg
I think people underestimate SOLAR and friends… But we will see ^^
They do.
We [N3] do not!
We would be absolute retards to underestimate SOLAR, they are very tough and very battle hardened. We really have huge respect for them as a whole, I just dont respect there leaders.
But to act as if they are equal to GSf is just stupid, they are IMO the best overall Block of fighters with many numbers left.
GSF/CFC overall= 55% in fighting and without Drakes+Numbers are not good at all [except Maels with 1 FC/Laz]
HBC= 65% overall with PL being very very good but majority being Rifter pilots
SOLAR= 85% with there avg player alot more skilled and they dont have a PL or massive numbers to increase there ratings.
so many of your member and allies are bitching about the solar Tech war with you guy.
seriously 1 i thought that ment you could avoid blob timer from goons and come have good fight against solar and it's allies 2 i believe in an alaince meeting ike an month before the war Nc said they was loving the fight against solar
The cock gobbling is strong in this PL pet. Anybody else who is not Solar or a highsec war corp have the balls to say fuck off PL?
Can Goons seriously afford to let Solar be destroyed? If it ever kicks off between HBC and CFC .
NC. And Nuli will want to be on PLs side. Mittens must be concerned by HBC working together with so many other people .
This is gona be a tough fight. Solar are good brawlers and they will fight hard for their space.
Will be interesting to see what the CFC will do if things get out of hand for Solar.
What will the CFC do? Hide and hope nobody attacks them.
''INK has reset N3 and is moving towards a -A- style Alliance. I’d like to think their diplomats are far superior to those of -A- so we’ll have to see how that goes.''
YOU DONT TALK BACK TO INK!!
i like it :p
So they are gonna have a coalition that will run and defend them but when needed they will claim their was never such a thing and run away stabbing all heir allies in the back only to have said allies come back later and kill them….ok
This is what happens to Red Alliance without there butt friends.
http://killboard.solar-fleet.ru/index.php?op=rela…
DnD did a much better job at blapping Solar with dreads, and that while having allmost no support BS available (granted much more dreads)
http://sotf.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_…
Do you think Solar Inc, fucking care, this game is shit, HBC/PL blue to 80% of eve, bunch of cock suckers, and look forward to being spaceless, quit and biomass my shit, can't wait.
Ive no doubt that there are more people for hire then any of us can relize when you factor in the amount of isk Solar can throw at them. Another reason i dont believe N3 will get cache is because they just took what four regions? It's been awhile since any of those alliances have had to do a lengthy sov grind. Spring isn't so far away as to not be a factor aswell. how long before N3 pilots want to go see that dreadful sun thing instead of grind an Ihub?
hey does pl go againts the people that rmt'd them that cash? I think that's kind of like killing the hand that feeds you. we all know how lazy pl is. Guess they got some of their own bots…
shut up dude, hbc uses their own bots not others! DUH!
Was proud to be in -A- , allot of bad press fueled by Maka and PK acting like giant tools helped kill off -A-. Maka whelps T3 then super fleet then suddenly realizes Eve is running his RL and he must get a job. Well kids will throw toys out of their pram. So Maka goes inactive , but cant resist trolling every FC who tries to keep fighting. PK just a big mouth who does nothing (GL in Black Legion 2 supers down already shame on you guys MVN).
Now i am a proud member of NC. and its pay back time SOLAR. You muppets did nothing to help -A- even though we helped you against DRF, closest they got to helping -A- was 1 jump away before the decided they didn't want to fight.
SOLAR is beaten they don't even try to fight us , they will hot-drop RA but lets face it RA are useless morons.
-A- was all about the English speaking EU guys and UStz. Russians did nothing at all , we carried them. I honestly cant remember last fight the Russians actually turned up to a fight. Russians believed they were superior to everyone else , but basically they were crap , inactive lazy and elitest.
Why -A- failed Maka and Herc with a little help from the inactive Russians.
Russians don't play with others , is it the language barrier or just fact they think they are better than everyone else ?
Wake da fuq up Ruskies you SUCK !!
ahem………………………….. FUCK SOLAR….AND FUCK EVILDEAD IN THE FUCKING FACE