After numerous suggestions and requests it is my intention to stand as a candidate for CSM8. I have been an avid player since early 2008 and believe that our current CSM is dominated too heavily by those who push their own agenda, as opposed to speak for the community they represent. CSM needs to be less of a ‘popularity contest’ and more of a functioning, transparent and useful contributor to the game they play. In the last couple of years it could be debated that CSM has been mostly redundant and merely a CCP sponsored attempt at diplomacy and including the people that play the game that they make.
Although I am a null sec player, I take an active interest in high sec as well as wormhole space. Throughout my EVE life I have lived in wormholes, pirated in low sec and carebeared myself to pieces in Caldari high sec. Many null sec players or veterans however have a tendency to be elitist, referring to newer players merely as ‘pubbies’ or ‘noobs’. My attitude is entirely the opposite and I actively seek out new players and new talent encouraging players to work together, no matter their SP level or when they started playing. Helping to improve the game for newer players whilst balancing the needs of the veterans all across EVE is my primary reason for standing and I hope to address this imbalance. The recent change to AI have hampered the ability for newer and older players to work together. Once upon a time a more experienced player could take new players along to missions with them, now it is not possible. Instead of CCP decreasing the gulf between players, they have unfortunately increased it. There must be a provision for teamwork at differing levels of experience and skills but there is an erosion of this idea in favour of the more experienced among us..
Also the playerbase has begun to see the CSM as a smoky backroom in a casino where the mafia dons of null sec hang out and speak in hushed tones of how they can further their agenda, whilst turning a deaf ear to the rest of the community. Whether this is entirely accurate is besides the point, but this is the image of the CSM and it needs to be changed. This can’t be done through a snazzy rebrand or some clever PR. The CSM needs to be reworked from the ground up to have the most effect and not simply be a shallow relaunch with some tinsel around the edges.
The divide between newer players and the more established amongst us is growing. There must be a way to increase participation between those just walking through the figurative doors of EVE and those that have been playing for years. Current mechanics do not easily allow for this but the recent trend of making things clearer and more concise for new players must continue as opposed to be hampered by the ‘bitter-vets in game and on the council. Here are a number of the things that I want to focus on if elected or that I hope the CSM listens to even if I’m not:
- Bring CSM out of the shadows and make it more transparent.
- Focus on how to bring in new players and how to keep them.
- Increase the ability for new and old players to work together throughout EVE.
- Make corporation management (roles etc) easier and less of an exercise in patience.
- Advocating term limits for CSM members.
The last point is something that CSM badly needs and it is surprising that it has not been mentioned more seriously before. I feel that no CSM member would actively volunteer their own disqualification for running for office once they’re there but I however am more than happy to accept this. There should be a maximum of times that you may be a CSM member so as to keep it fresh and change the focus. New people bring new ideas and keeping the council fresh will keep it productive. Of course the largest blocs in EVE have the most voting power because they have the most members but there should be a change of representation, even if there is a representative from the different blocs in EVE.
CSM needs to change. I hope to be able to effect that change and introduce new ideas and suggestions for changes to the game. I would always be willing to receive evemails or emails regarding ideas and operate an ‘open door policy’ as I always have done throughout my time in EVE as well as on EN24. If you have any suggestions I would be more than happy to receive them. You can find me on Twitter @minonoud or on Facebook via my profile.
You've got my vote, and good luck would be nice to see a change
Never heard of you.
This is exactly my point. Being an EVE celebrity does not make you a good choice of CSM. I have never been able to fathom why 'being known' matters to people as much as it does.
Presumably because being known means that people have a better understanding of your positions, loyalties, and in game agenda. Simply put, more information is better.
Then we will agree to disagree. It isn't all about politics ALL of the time and I do not see why that should influence what is essentially a spokesperson for the community anyway, not a role as a diplomat in a power bloc. Regarding loyalties, I believe I did touch on that in the article but for the avoidance of doubt it is to the players as a whole and primarily helping newer people adjust to the game. Don't mistake me for Mittens, this isn't a way to 'balance' the game in my favour or raise my profile for personal gain.
Yeah, but I never 'knew' Tony Blair, Alex Salmond or David Cameron. Before they ran for government I had no clue who they were. I made my decision based on what it was they were saying they would do and their proposed method of delivery. I never had tea with them or went to the pub with them..
"Pubbie" is not equivalent to "newbie." It means someone who is not a member of the SomethingAwful forums. Within the CFC, it has come to mean "anyone not in the CFC", which results in the obvious irony of pubbies calling other pubbies pubby.
Term limits are great if there is a deep talent pool from which to draw. You argument implies the latter, however: that the existing CSM talent pool is lousy. The two ideas cannot logically co-exist.
Posts like this are why I don't vote in the CSM elections. CCP will do whatever it feels it needs to do to get more subs, the CSM at best are a sounding board. The whole thing could be scrapped and very few of us would notice.
Not a great reason not to vote. The CSM is really just a Customer Advisory Board (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer_advisory_council). So long as you understand the purpose, you can still vote for people who meet the needs of both CCP and the customer base (or at least, those more likely to do so).
The CSM isn't a CAB, because CCP has never defined what those "needs" are. It's a free for all, you have CSM members that do nothing and CCP won't remove them. It's pointless.
It would be good if there was a way that a popular vote could be taken that could trigger a 'vote of no confidence' in a CSM member. It would of course be continuously abused so I'm not sure how it could be achieved without CCP stepping in themselves like they did with Mittens.
This is why I don't vote in the CSM because CCP doesn't take it seriously. If they took it seriously they would kick people off the CSM who contribute nothing. They won't because it's become some pseudo political body and they don't want the drama.
Let's take that thought for a second – you didn't vote. Now imagine how many others had that opinion. All those abstained votes mean some idiot gets in the door, whereas someone with a decent agenda will get left out to dry. Someone who could make a difference, but will never get the chance because nobody believes they can do anything. So if only half of last year's non-voters threw a vote in a non-CFC direction, that's some major voting power in somebody's hands.
Now all we need is someone capable of motivating those masses into making such a vote. Maybe Mino can be that person, but as yet I'm not sufficiently moved by any passion being put into this campaign. It's early days I know, so perhaps some helpful feedback for Mino there..
But you seem to be under the illusion the CSM have any power to drive an agenda. If people want to vote they should, I'm sure some people who run for CSM have a sincere motives.When CCP get around to defining specific roles for the CSM which can be measured by the players I'll vote for them.
There is no illusion here but to truly affect change you can't afford to moan about how things stay the same whilst wishing they were different. Apathy never got anybody anywhere. Hence here I am.
Mittani managed it, he talked a shitload in public and forced CCP to do things. This current bunch of CSM are pussies in comparison. No wait – they actually are. I can understand an NDA keeping them quiet on a lot of stuff, but with a certain cunt in charge, the CSM got shit done.
The lesson here is the chairman of the CSM realised the power of the public and used it to make things happen. And nobody seems to have learned from that, at least nobody currently in office. It's a sorry state of affairs when a fucking Goon made the game far better for everyone than anybody before or(to date) since.
As much as I dislike his cult of personality etc I can't help but agree with you there.
It's early doors but I aim to be releasing an article a day as well as blogging about what I believe needs to be changed and also collating ideas from you guys on what you feel needs changing the most. You'll notice me appear around the web a lot more so do keep me to that. Thank you for the feedback though, I appreciate it.
I don't think that it is anything to do with "not wanting drama" and more to do with not interfering in what was and is essentially a player managed body, not a CCP managed body. CCP is supposed to be neutral regarding the CSM members so it would begin to become a grey area if they intervened. Still, I agree that there should be some sort of comeback regarding inactivity or unwillingness to participate.
On that note, your take on Poetic's article re: private channels for CCP devs and podcast hosts?
I understand what she was trying to do however I question her motives. If you wish to provide a channel where podcasters can join to chat to each other and possibly speak to CCP staff then you cannot pick and choose which podcasters you choose to add to the channel because of 'personal reasons'.
It is like me cherry picking for a journalism group and attempting to lord it over others and implying that they would be removed from the channel if they don't do as they're told. If she were to have an issue with people being added to the channel then that's all fine and well if the integrity is compromised but when they happen to be other podcasters for that specific production it's getting a little petty.
Basically, there are ways to go about things. Being aggressive and rude isn't going to win you favours no matter who you think you are.
If you can bring balance it's worth a shot. However how do you intend to deal with the majority of cam that are only there for their own agenda as we are well aware of! What will you do to make sure that moral balance for the benifit of both new and vet players are brought to eve community. What will you do to make sure all the major power bloc csm memebers dont walk all over you for there own/coalition benifit? My vote can only be given if you can show you have the balls to act and not just be on the bandwagon of entities such as goontards etc?
Csm* predict txt sigh!
There is nothing I can say that won't just be pretty words or posturing and I'm loathed to use the cliché of 'I promise' but I can assure you that I will not be a silent member of the CSM, nor will I be in the pocket of anyone else. I am allied to no bloc, there's no gentleman's agreement and I have no interest in shady backroom deals to get a seat. I know that there are strong personalities on CSM and it's simply not allowing yourself to be dictated to by someone who is essentially no different to any other player in a video game.
My balls are nobodies but my own and I don't see the point in going to all the trouble of standing as well as putting my head above the parapet if I don't do as I say I will. My ideas may be unconventional but I believe in what I'm standing for and that reason isn't just to serve my own ends and nothing more.
These election campaigns each year never cease to surprise me… so here's my question. Given that EVERY single candidate who's been elected thus far has vowed to shake up the CSM, be more transparent, or be more vocal and – apart from the Mittani(being serious guys, he was good at it and I don't even like him yet I'll still admit it) – I don't think we've seen anybody do anything other than quietly have their trip to Iceland and then counter-sign a document about some minutes. Even Seleene has hidden away after the initial burst of articles published here on EN24 and I've seen fuck all on the forums or K(unless I'm looking in the wrong places).
My question is this: what makes you think you'll be any different?
I've already said it below in the comments but there is little I can say that won't be tarnished by the poor reputation of past CSM members. All I can simply say is that I see something that needs to be changed so falling in with the status quo and going to all of this effort seems really rather pointless if that's all I intend to do.
CSM members being silent and not doing what they said they would in the first place is something that massively erks me anyway, so it seems illogical to me to be just another body in a seat.
With all due respect sir, writing a mini-wall-of-text does not really constitute effort. Playing since '08 does not define effort. The effort begins now, as I suspect you're finding from looking at the number of comments here ready to shoot you down in flames before you've even had a fair chance.
This, right now? Reading this(and maybe even replying)? Spending the coming weeks/months lobbying for support from your fellow Eve peers? This is just the beginning. Then you have to actually do the job should you succeed in being elected to your desired post.
If in a year's time you're in the CSM and have done well, then yes you can claim to have put all this effort in. Right now though it's early days, you've got many more haters to deal with and a lot of negativity throughout the game. If you can put up with that and continue to keep your head high and believe you can make a difference, then you've put effort in.
Slightly shitty block of text aside, it's time for you to get to work. I wish you well for your electoral campaign, and I actually hope you go some way towards at least dispelling a lot of the attitudes that the masses hold towards what's now become a mockery of a publicity stunt by CCP. Good luck! B)
I appreciate your candidness and you are right. I wasn't referencing the effort of writing this article though, I was looking ahead but I shall take it on the chin all the same. I don't mind the comments on here, negative or otherwise and as with all of my other articles I aim to answer people as often as I can, going forwards this won't change and you will see a lot more from me in the near future.
If it comes to it and I am elected which I know will be an uphill struggle, the effort won't wane and I'll still be answering questions just the same as always. Hopefully my comments will be taken on board by other candidates on my perspective of how the CSM currently 'is' compared to what it was intended to be. It's why I do not see this as a measure of my popularity and won't be bruised if I don't receive enough votes, as hopefully what I say may be discussed with CCP whether I am sat at that particular table or not.
Here's to what will likely be a very interesting campaign regardless.
I dont care, give me 100M and i give you 4 votes.
You're ok thanks. I'd rather earn mine the good old fashioned way by having good ideas, being honest and cutting out the bullshit. If it takes 'buying' votes to win I would rather have nobody vote for me than crawl through the mud with the others.
uhmm the "good old fashioned way" in eve has been to sling mud, create drama lamas, and beg high sec nerds to vote for you with some weird idea that your ideas are the best ideas EVAR.
So…. your right on track
Y, im gona make a post on the Eve-O forum, where people can sell their votes
you dont care, as long as you win. So give me ma monyyyyyee
This guy called somebody a nerd XD. Good times. Almost as bad as shouting noob at your monitor while your mom yells to take out the trash from the top of the basement staircase.
Now now, we both know your required to give those votes to your master in Goonswarm.
current CSM is dominated too heavily by those who push their own agenda
True words true words tear down the goon test pl domination .. bring in new thoughts, all who hate a blue 0.0 are on your side
You're not a leader of a Powerbloc coalition…
You're not buddy buddy with DEVS like the current and more then likely future CSM member is…
You will not get the votes needed to be in the CSM…
The image of the CSM being run by mofia null sec players has been set, advertised as such, and will continued to be run…
You will approach this with your ideas, and get openly laughed at by the current CSM and other candidates. Which will be part of powerblocs that already have the vote before the pools even open…
Enjoy being the next guy who was openly insulted and bullied. Not only for expressing good ideas and that doesn't have alternative motives. Just like last year, on EVEradio, with DEVS backing up their CSM buddies, making fun and insulting those with the same ideas as you're putting through!
This is my fear also. I stand for the little guy. They can bring more benifit for eve community than any curry put power bloc csm can, but again everything within the csm is currupt so you may have way with it and start a fresh making very clear what impartial t&c's there are. And a new voting system where the power blocs can't simply get all there retards to vote for them for a finger up the ass or a new Ritter lol. Until that is sorted out its going to be rare that any body relivant will be on the csm for community benifit. I give you my vote but I fear it's in vain!
The CSM is worthless. They are to CCP what Vichy France was to the Germans: Pure puppetry.
player since early 2008
Thank you for pointing out why better integration of newer and old players is necessary so I don't have to do it again.
Majority of voters pilot will do what they usually do in real like : voting for a"Jesus" that will save us all.
Mino Noud is not a known pilot, so what ?
A lot of pilots vote for the magnificent and very well known "The Mitani" who is a failure a human being.
Mino Noud bring something fresh, I will vote for him
Remind me again of how many players voted last time. Then tell me how many were in large bloc's. Add to that the fact that one person dose not mean 1 vote in eve. Lots of alts. Hell think of what would happen if all the minners voted for the same person =P.
Good luck anyway.
Thanks Sin. It's appreciated.
Being a CAB, CCP is naturally inclined to weight the votes in favor of those with more accounts, and thus who buy more.
Your EVE bio is preachy and kind of attention whorish. EVE is a space game set in a fantasy universe. People that go out of their way to bring real world issues into a game, regardless of what that issue may be, typically have trouble separating the two–and are not a positive thing for a game that people use to escape.
Thank you for sharing your feelings but I believe it is my prerogative just the same as anyone else to put whatever I like in my bio.:)
lol sounds like another politician spout to me… promising loads but deliver nothing… csm is a joke
Then there's very little I can say to you that will make you think differently but I'm quite happy to prove you wrong if I get the chance. It's that simple. Beyond that I am shit out of luck with what I could say to make you think otherwise.
"" I am allied to no bloc, there's no gentleman's agreement and I have no interest in shady backroom deals to get a seat. I know that there are strong personalities on CSM and it's simply not allowing yourself to be dictated to by someone who is essentially no different to any other player in a video game.""
If this really so , you may get my vote
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Also as you are a 0.0 player , any ideas how to "fix" 0.0? For me it was downhill since dominion and now it reached the floor with current state as in blue powerblocks & endless structure grinding wich only sucseed when you have the numbers.
"Make corporation management (roles etc) easier and less of an exercise in patience." , this is intersting , you got a blog/website or so where you gonna define it? cause im not on facebook & twitter.
I wish you succes in running for csm.
I'm new to eve. What is CSM and how does one vote?
The CSM is the Council of Stellar Management. It's a group of players that are elected via popular vote to be representatives of the playerbase. They meet with CCP and regularly communicate with the developers regarding new changes, how the players will respond as well as act as a conduit between CCP and the players themselves in what is meant to be a dialogue.
Will you force the CFC / HBC / Sea of blue to disband, ban all Goons and save Eve from the boring powerblock napfest it currently is?
Nobody can 'force' them to without the barrel of a gun (although the likelihood of the rest of EVE actually banding together to do this is remote at best and frankly a sexy sort of hypocrisy in my opinion) so I can't really go ordering they do that anyway. Still, it would be amusing I'm sure.
Your all a bunch of fucking idiots all these guys want is a free trip to Iceland and to say they have power over the game……the jita riots were the only time I have seen the panel flex its muscle and when I say flex I mean put on a show so CCP wouldn't be fucked and lose all its player base.
Then I will happily forgo the ticket to Iceland and we can all have a Skype conference. I really do not mind.
Says the guy living under CFC rule… who does uncle Mittens want you to vote for this year?
There are currently members in the CSM that have literally did nothing so I don't find it as a problem or even a challenge to vote for you giving you a chance to do what you say you'll do.
Then I appreciate your support.
you're no different then any other CSM. opinions with no facts especially about previous CSMs. I'm not going to be bothered to fact check if you can't cite anything. CSM can only do so much when you are under NDA. that and ccp only dedicates just enough resources to the game to keep it from dying. any big change in eve takes years and any little change takes you guessed it… years as well. It's 2012 and my ships are still not balanced except t1 frigs and cruisers. and no i'm not going to cite a thing on my post because I'm not running for a thing.
You get my vote, too. Sick of blobs pushing their own agenda, making their grunts vote for the leadership.
Thank you for your support.
Good luck.
Thanks
Fear. Uncertainty. Doubt.
You sir are going to have a successful career.
Seeing that I am not currently a part of one of the major Null-sec alliances. I will pay much more attention to what you have to say. The last CSM vote was just sheep herding rather than me actually listening to what candidates have to say.
Indeed. Politics has its time and place but using a CSM seat to grind your axe certainly isn't one of them. Nor should it ever be.
So your stance thus far beyond "bring new players" and transparency is what exactly? I am solely a nullsec player, I give literally zero fucks about empire and have not been into even lowsec when we weren't chasing a gang there or staging out of lowsec at the initial part of a campaign. What will you push to improve the life of my playstyle?
Also I would like to point out the last time CCP tried to focus on bringing in new players we got shit like Incarna and Spaceville.
Bob, I've already said I wish to speak mostly for the newer players coming through but you already have a mass of null sec CSM people who have done next to nothing for you so you should already have plenty of people who should have been working for the greater good of null.
What I would push for in null sec is the redistribution of moons so that you don't end up with one alliance or bloc being able to essentially control T2 production, as well as fixing supercapitals so that they are not as badly nerfed as they were. Granted that before they were too heavy but now it has changed so that not only are they nearly useless but it's encouraged this 'blueing everything' mentality that has set in. Not because people wish to work in co-operation but because now it's a game of numbers, not of necessarily skills or assets. With moon minerals it doesn't fit the idea of CCP making the game more even which is what they'd implied when they killed drone alloys off but then they don't touch the moons. It doesn't make sense.
CCP has attempted to make it fairer for smaller alliances or groups of people to hold null sec what with the changes so sov in Dominion but it didn't work that way. How it could be changed though is far too big a question for the comments section so I will write a much more detailed article with what my ideas are and we'll see where we stand.
So you are targeting a different demographic. Good luck.
Keep in mind that most players get pretty afraid when CCP starts talking about mechanics to bring in new players. That is a lot of what started the unrest of the recent past.
So do we get an article from each major candidate? or are you speshul because you has EN24 editor status?
Either way, my votes go towards whoever Mittens says.
So you let some dude who hardly logs on, and has no respect for his fellow players (refer to the Fanfest comments from last year) to tell you where to vote? Wow…
I'm simply first out of the gate but I am quite certain that if someone were to come to me and wish to put an article on EN24 announcing their candidacy that it would be on the site. I am neither special nor privileged to write or be an editor on EN24, it is something I enjoy doing so this was the logical place for me to announce that I was running.
To any other, the offer is there so do get in touch.
Are you Riverni's, and/or EVENEWS24's choice as candidate?
You can ask Riverini himself as I don't wish to speak for him.
so you are like one of those yellow minions from the movie "despicable me" you don't think and just do what someone ho rarely logs in in eve tels you to do??
I don't think I have ever seen someone be such a sheep in all my life. In some respects I want to take my hat off to you but in reality it's only so I can shake my head in disbelief that little bit harder.
obvious trolololololololol
Good Luck Mino, but I think the CSM is a load of dribble! It serves the purposes of CCP not of the players. If it was really a "representation" no NDA would exist.
Remember CCP is a business, not a benefactor or charity to for entertainment.
Bring CSM out of the shadows and make it more transparent.
The lack of transparency within the CSM is mostly a function of the NDA and how CCP controls the messaging. There is no way you can alter this from within the CSM. -1
Focus on how to bring in new players and how to keep them.
CCPs job, not the CSMs job. The CSM lacks the power to influence the game in any meaningful way that would have a baring on new player retention. -1
Increase the ability for new and old players to work together throughout EVE.
How? You cannot make people behave in a particular way and the CSM does not have the power to make game design decisions to influence how they will behave. Sounds like another CSM who considers himself a game designer? You fail to understand the realities of the post. -1
Make corporation management (roles etc) easier and less of an exercise in patience.
How? given you would not be on the CSM in the capacity of a game designer and CCP will ultimately decide how far your remit goes. -1.
Advocating term limits for CSM members.
Why? Effective CSM should be more than welcome to stay as long as they want and as long as the electorate will support them. Term limits are a fundimentally bad idea, in any form of politics. It suggests a complete lack of trust in electorates ability to vote down an inappropriate politician. How about advocating that the voting mechanism be fixed rather than applying bandaids to a sucking chest wound? -1..
You would make a terrible CSM.
somebody ate shit wheaties this morning
+1
Pretty much sums up how I feel about the CSM.
Alliance with 10k members surprisingly are very effective at getting behind particular candidates, where as it is nearly impossible to create the same momentum from a disperate bunch of small corporations.
I'll throw you a voting change to re-address balance to CSM. Half the members are appointed by straight vote as today. Half are appointed by a vote of corporation leaders – 1 corporation 1 vote. CCP can decide how long corp should have been in place, activity levels and or diminumus membership limits to curb alt abuse / fake corporation being set up for votes. This would ensure at least some representation for groups of players that can't co-ordinate mass blocks of votes.
lol nope
where can we all [s]laugh at[/a] read your manifesto?
[s]laugh at[/s] read i meant… damn fat fingers
dude go and do it better instead of big talking a pile of shit. good day sir o7
I will properly reply to you when you give up the lame attempt at trolling and/or be more constructive. Thus I don't think I'll be replying to you seriously. Thanks
What do you for a living? Honest question
Media, journalism and web design.
The fact that even the need for CSM's exist speaks volumes about CCP's incompedence to steer the game in the right direction. CCP needs to clean house, get rid of all X- player devs to end the internal conflict of interest that permiates CCP and that will be a good start. CSM's only advocate for there own self interest, jesus people get a clue.
How do you fire somebody from a company because they use the product they create? In terms of law in that situation CCP would go bankrupt in a week due to all the people trying to sue them
You are the best choice for the position CSM, wish the best for you RKMACARTUR Ceo COALICION HISPANA
Muchisimas gracias RKMACARTUR y todo el gente de COALICION HISPANA.
Todo nuestro apoyo para ti compañero
eh fuck you gringo
Is this an elaborate troll? Why would I vote for someone with zero kills on any killboard, with a grand total of 5 posts on Eve-o forums, and experience in just 2 player corps during a mere 10 months of playing Eve? Mino, you are clearly too young and inexperienced to be an effective CSM representative.
Oh, wait, I see that you claim to be a 2008 player and have experience pirating. So this isn't your main character? You need to tell us who you really are. I'm not voting for an unknown alt.
+10000
With all due respect, who the fuck is the OP.
My vote will go to any candidate which has no links to Goons, Test, PL.
Now we have a sorry situation, where CSM members look adfrer their own narrow agenda, and CCP devs who make changes to favour their mates in their former alliances. Something needs to change.