This could be an elaborate troll. I don’t think so, though. You can decide. I’ll talk about why I don’t think it’s a troll as I go forward with this strange little tale.
Tonight, Placid09 contacted me in-game. I’m including the contents of that conversation first, before the pastebin he gave me. The pastebin is dated early December. It’s one of the reasons why I don’t believe this to be a troll. Placid09 had contacted me previously to talk, back on December 29 2012, but I was busy at the time, and he was preparing to do his podcast. That, and Dani hadn’t gone a little kookoo concerning me until after I posted my Why I Don’t Listen to Podcasts post. There’s no reason to concoct some elaborate troll, because I wasn’t on Arydanika’s shitlist on December 29 2012, which is when I would have received all this information, had I not been busy.
So, who is Placid09? He’s one of the podcast hosts for the Podside. Who is Arydanika? She hosts the Voices from the Void podcast.
Aridanika [Dani] has set-up a Skype channel where “all” podcasters can get together to chat. She’s been inviting (or trying to invite) CCP devs to take part in their discussions. That’s basically the state of things in which the drama takes place.
Before we get to the chat logs, if any CCP employees are reading this, I would like to state strongly that any mini-community that CCP gets involved with, that mini-community should be inclusive to all members that it purports to represent. The mini-community organizer should not be excluding people based on his/her pride and prejudices (I’m getting all Jane Austen up in here.) If it’s a podcast community, then all podcast hosts and creators should be included. The group should not be a reflection of one single person, especially where that person seeks power and influence with CCP. And especially where that person seeks a CSM seat in 2013. The perception of favouritism is a powerful one, and CCP should be especially mindful of it. Bear all of this in mind if you continue reading.
(It is still completely at CCP’s discretion concerning what podcasts they wish to appear on. This is not the issue. Nor do I debate CCP’s choice of venue for their employees.)
I’ll first let my conversation with Placid09 speak for itself, and then I’ll add some commentary before I post the pastebin of Placid09′s conversation to Dani about this group she’s organizing.
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Channel ID: -36184734
Channel Name: Private Chat (Placid09)
Listener: Poetic Stanziel
Session started: 2013.01.04 01:36:56
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[ 2013.01.04 01:37:07 ] Poetic Stanziel > o/
[ 2013.01.04 01:37:13 ] Placid09 > o/
[ 2013.01.04 01:37:26 ] Placid09 > sorry to stalk
[ 2013.01.04 01:37:35 ] Placid09 > been meaning to chat with you for quite awhile though
[ 2013.01.04 01:37:39 ] Poetic Stanziel > K.
[ 2013.01.04 01:37:41 ] Placid09 > are you free for a bit?
[ 2013.01.04 01:37:47 ] Placid09 > if not, can wait
[ 2013.01.04 01:37:57 ] Poetic Stanziel > Sure. We’re just plexing Dal.
[ 2013.01.04 01:40:05 ] Placid09 > alright, let me find the pastebin quick, I actually think I’m going to have to re-bin it
[ 2013.01.04 01:40:48 ] Poetic Stanziel > Is this concerning my Test vs. Goon post?
[ 2013.01.04 01:41:43 ] Placid09 > no no
[ 2013.01.04 01:41:44 ] Placid09 > not at all
[ 2013.01.04 01:41:54 ] Placid09 > I thought that was great actually
[ 2013.01.04 01:41:55 ] Placid09 > :3
[ 2013.01.04 01:42:02 ] Placid09 > no, this concerns Dani
[ 2013.01.04 01:42:06 ] Poetic Stanziel > Ah.
[ 2013.01.04 01:42:23 ] Poetic Stanziel > I’m getting the impression she’s extremely thin-skinned.
[ 2013.01.04 01:42:56 ] Placid09 > I’m going to send you a link to a pastebin, I’ve kept this ‘mostly’ private, only sending it to a few other podcasters and the rest of the producers of Podside
[ 2013.01.04 01:43:11 ] Placid09 > she created that skype channel because of you of course
[ 2013.01.04 01:43:16 ] Placid09 > this pastebin is in relation to that
[ 2013.01.04 01:43:20 ] Placid09 > it is rather long
[ 2013.01.04 01:43:27 ] Placid09 > http://pastebin.com/KjLsTSRN
[ 2013.01.04 01:44:00 ] Placid09 > how you choose to use this is up to you, but from what I can tell she’s going to make a CSM run
[ 2013.01.04 01:44:52 ] Poetic Stanziel > If I were to use this … want me to remove your name? She’ll obviously know who you are … but with respect to keeping you “private” to most others?
[ 2013.01.04 01:45:02 ] Placid09 > no
[ 2013.01.04 01:45:04 ] Placid09 > I give no shits
[ 2013.01.04 01:45:11 ] Placid09 > fuck that c**t
[ 2013.01.04 01:45:18 ] Placid09 > once you read the whole thing you will understand
[ 2013.01.04 01:45:25 ] Poetic Stanziel > K.
[ 2013.01.04 01:45:43 ] Placid09 > I’ve really really tried to be nice and helpful, but she is just out for herself
[ 2013.01.04 01:45:50 ] Placid09 > not out for the community like she says
[ 2013.01.04 01:45:51 ] Poetic Stanziel > So what is this room?
[ 2013.01.04 01:45:54 ] Poetic Stanziel > A Skype channel for podcast people?
[ 2013.01.04 01:46:19 ] Placid09 > the skype room is filled with all of the podcasters and she invited a bunch of CCP employees
[ 2013.01.04 01:46:46 ] Placid09 > because you gave her some gruf for having too much CCP pull
[ 2013.01.04 01:47:04 ] Placid09 > so she wanted to seem ‘impartial’ and give everyone equal access
[ 2013.01.04 01:47:06 ] Poetic Stanziel > I’ve never commented on her before in my life.
[ 2013.01.04 01:47:37 ] Poetic Stanziel > My first mention of her was when I said I preferred VandV when Seismic Stan was a co-host.
[ 2013.01.04 01:47:37 ] Placid09 > could have sworn she said she created the room because of you…
[ 2013.01.04 01:47:59 ] Poetic Stanziel > What she says and what is reality are two different things.
[ 2013.01.04 01:48:10 ] Placid09 > V&V with another host is usually better, there are reasons she has issues working with other people
[ 2013.01.04 01:48:31 ] Poetic Stanziel > I heard some rumours after Stan left.
[ 2013.01.04 01:48:33 ] Placid09 > back in 5 minutes
[ 2013.01.04 01:49:26 ] Poetic Stanziel > I try not to make comments on female EVE players (other than Susan Black), because they generally have a legion of White Knighters. Boobs bring out the white knight in people.… I read the pastebin Placid09 linked …
[ 2013.01.04 01:54:43 ] Poetic Stanziel > Fuck. Adolf Danika. CCP is going to get involved with this person? Mistake.
[ 2013.01.04 01:55:17 ] Poetic Stanziel > I wonder what would have happened if you said you don’t listen to VandV and never intend too. You probably would have been booted.
[ 2013.01.04 01:57:56 ] Placid09 > sorry, was craving nicotine
[ 2013.01.04 01:58:39 ] Poetic Stanziel > That’s fine. I typed stuff until you got back.
[ 2013.01.04 01:58:45 ] Placid09 > yeah I saw
[ 2013.01.04 01:59:05 ] Placid09 > she plays nice nice to the people that matter
[ 2013.01.04 01:59:21 ] Placid09 > that’s why I wanted to get this out
[ 2013.01.04 01:59:28 ] Poetic Stanziel > Apparently looks that way.
[ 2013.01.04 01:59:35 ] Placid09 > and for sure is not the first person she has acted like this to
[ 2013.01.04 01:59:52 ] Poetic Stanziel > Who ever can help get her deeper into CCP, whoever can help her schmooze.
[ 2013.01.04 02:00:01 ] Placid09 > pretty much
[ 2013.01.04 02:00:14 ] Placid09 > if you want to run with it, go for it
[ 2013.01.04 02:00:24 ] Placid09 > I don’t like doing the ‘podcast pvp’ on my show
[ 2013.01.04 02:00:45 ] Placid09 > but like I said, I really feel those logs should get out if she makes an election run
[ 2013.01.04 02:00:45 ] Poetic Stanziel > I probably will. Tonight. This is crazy and she doesn’t deserve CCP accomodating her, what with her attitude.
[ 2013.01.04 02:01:35 ] Poetic Stanziel > After I post this … you conversing with her ever again will be nil.
[ 2013.01.04 02:01:53 ] Placid09 > I’m thinking I’ll probably be booted from the room tbh
[ 2013.01.04 02:02:09 ] Placid09 > a lot of what she said floored me
[ 2013.01.04 02:02:15 ] Placid09 > her ‘work’
[ 2013.01.04 02:02:22 ] Placid09 > all that she ‘manages’
[ 2013.01.04 02:02:45 ] Placid09 > there is an google spreadsheet linked in the header of the room that everyone just fills out there info when they join
[ 2013.01.04 02:03:11 ] Placid09 > what made her get all mad was I invited the rest of the Podside producers into the room without notifying her first
[ 2013.01.04 02:04:05 ] Placid09 > do you have any questions?
[ 2013.01.04 02:04:16 ] Placid09 > as far as that log at least?
[ 2013.01.04 02:04:59 ] Poetic Stanziel > No. It seems clear. I figured out that you’d invited your other hosts and she got pissed off.
[ 2013.01.04 02:05:18 ] Placid09 > also that I came up with the idea of bringing in the CSM
[ 2013.01.04 02:05:28 ] Placid09 > rather then her
[ 2013.01.04 02:05:38 ] Placid09 > but because it wasn’t ‘her’ idea, she was pretty upset about it
[ 2013.01.04 02:05:41 ] Poetic Stanziel > CSM is a waste of time. And the CSM already talk with the devs.
[ 2013.01.04 02:05:52 ] Poetic Stanziel > Why would they need another “dev” channel?
[ 2013.01.04 02:06:11 ] Placid09 > it was more so other podcasters had easier access to them
[ 2013.01.04 02:06:20 ] Placid09 > because I have them on Podside quite a bit
[ 2013.01.04 02:06:34 ] Placid09 > and I thought it would be a good idea for more people to have them on, better community exposure
[ 2013.01.04 02:06:39 ] Poetic Stanziel > Heh. Those guys get too much podcast coverage for the little that they say.
[ 2013.01.04 02:06:55 ] Poetic Stanziel > But we obviously differ on that opinion.
[ 2013.01.04 02:06:58 ] Poetic Stanziel > Which is fine.
[ 2013.01.04 02:07:07 ] Placid09 > yeah, we have very different views on the CSM
[ 2013.01.04 02:07:19 ] Placid09 > opinions are opinions afterall
[ 2013.01.04 02:07:27 ] Poetic Stanziel > That’s cool.
[ 2013.01.04 02:08:08 ] Poetic Stanziel > Thanks for the pastebin tho. It’s good juicy drama.
[ 2013.01.04 02:08:21 ] Poetic Stanziel > She’ll go ballistic when it’s made public. The damage control will be epic.
[ 2013.01.04 02:08:50 ] Placid09 > pretty much
[ 2013.01.04 02:10:25 ] Poetic Stanziel > One you’re kicked from her group … start a podcast group of your own and be all-inclusive. After I post this … I’ll help get the word out on the GOOD WORK you and Podside are doing.
[ 2013.01.04 02:11:04 ] Placid09 > well Chyph3r and I started a seperate podcast site that lists ALL of the eve podcasts
[ 2013.01.04 02:11:13 ] Placid09 > not just the ones she likes
[ 2013.01.04 02:11:24 ] Placid09 > because she can’t be bothered to do a little fucking work for the community
[ 2013.01.04 02:11:31 ] Poetic Stanziel > You have a link? Because I am reviewing podcasts and need a complete list.
[ 2013.01.04 02:11:36 ] Placid09 > evepodcasts.com
[ 2013.01.04 02:13:59 ] Poetic Stanziel > Anyhow … thanks for the heads up on this. It’s good stuff. And it annoys me when people like Dani try to grab power at the expense of those around her.
Now to the pastebin. I’m going to add commentary to it as you read. It’s eye-opening and shocking in a number of places. So that you know what Dani’s issues are here. First, Placid09 brought his four other co-hosts into the Skype podcast channel. He didn’t ask Dani’s permission first, because he assumed all hosts were welcome. Second, he put forward the idea that the CSM be brought into the channel, again, without running the idea by Dani first.
[12/2/2012 8:41:25 AM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Podside has 5 hosts?
[12/2/2012 8:43:43 AM | Removed 2:27:19 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: This message has been removed.
[12/2/2012 8:43:53 AM | Edited 10:50:16 AM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: In the future please do not add any one without speaking to me first. It is our room however I am the one managing it and putting in 100% of the work that goes in to it.
[12/2/2012 8:44:05 AM | Edited 10:49:15 AM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I really appreciate your understand and respect in this project. I know it can be hard to be under the leadership of someone else.
[12/2/2012 8:44:11 AM | Removed 2:27:10 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: This message has been removed.
[12/2/2012 4:14:44 PM] Placid09 EVE: you there?
[12/2/2012 4:26:08 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I am for a bit
[12/2/2012 4:28:11 PM] Placid09 EVE: just wanted to talk to you a bit
[12/2/2012 4:28:23 PM] Placid09 EVE: didn’t mean to go over your head, no disrespect was meant of course
[12/2/2012 4:28:52 PM] Placid09 EVE: we had our saturday show last night and during the aftershow I was talking to them about the room and what it was about and added them, was going to tell you today
[12/2/2012 4:29:04 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: They are all hosts?
[12/2/2012 4:29:12 PM | Edited 4:29:18 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Full time on every episode hosts.
[12/2/2012 4:29:31 PM] Placid09 EVE: if you had ever listened to our show you would know we have that many shows, and tbh I’m rather suprised you hadn’t heard of Podside before
[12/2/2012 4:30:12 PM] Placid09 EVE: Urz and Min are there every show, Cyph3r is there as much as possible, and now that he’s layed off will be on a lot more
[12/2/2012 4:31:08 PM] Placid09 EVE: we actually have another that is on every Tuesday as well, but I didn’t talk to him, so didn’t add him
[12/2/2012 4:31:11 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Do you listen to Voices?
[12/2/2012 4:31:17 PM] Placid09 EVE: I do, every episode
[12/2/2012 4:31:24 PM | Edited 4:31:34 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I know Chy doesn’t nor Pukin.
I’m not sure why it matters whether anybody from the Podside podcast listens to Voices from the Void. Is this a requirement for entry into the podcast Skype club? It makes sense that she’d want her colleagues to be familiar with her work. That I no longer listen to her podcast is what set her off with me; my mentioning in a footnote that I used to greatly enjoy her podcast back when she and Seismic Stan were hosting, but when he left I felt the quality dropped off and I stopped listening.
[12/2/2012 4:31:39 PM] Placid09 EVE: I subscribe to a LOT of eve podcasts
[12/2/2012 4:31:42 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: And no I don’t listen to Podside.
[12/2/2012 4:31:48 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: And probably never will.
It doesn’t go both ways. It’s downright rude the way she expresses it, though.
[12/2/2012 4:31:52 PM] Placid09 EVE: why is that?
[12/2/2012 4:31:57 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: However, It important that this room stay managable.
[12/2/2012 4:32:18 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: The more “random personalities” that CCP is unaware of are in the room, the less likely they will join.
Random personalities, such as those personalities that host podcasts, which is supposed to be what the Skype channel is for. Or even random personalities that have already had devs on their podcasts. Arydanika, in this case, gets to decide who CCP will talk with and who they will not. She’s going to control the conversation. If she doesn’t like you, you’re out. Classy. Democratic, too.
[12/2/2012 4:32:30 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: They were suppose to have been in here a few days after open.
[12/2/2012 4:32:58 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Devs are really skittish due to NDAs, possibly telling something they shouldn’t, rumors spreading, etc.
[12/2/2012 4:33:05 PM] Placid09 EVE: random personalities, despite the fact that we’ve had CCP on as well on Podside…
[12/2/2012 4:33:18 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: The room growing too quickly can be detremental to what it’s trying to accompish.
What is the Skype channel trying to accomplish? Other than to give Arydanika a pipeline into CCP, thus more exposure for herself, which will make her CSM8 campaign all that much easier. Again, CCP should be distancing itself from this sort of self-serving gerrymandering; she’s trying to cherry-pick the podcast group that will be of most benefit to her.
[12/2/2012 4:33:25 PM] Placid09 EVE: fact is Devs shouldn’t be saying anything that is NDA, but it doesn’t mean they can’t join in and chat with us
[12/2/2012 4:33:40 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: If you don’t like the way I run things you are more than welcome to leave
[12/2/2012 4:33:42 PM] Placid09 EVE: that was what the group was about as far as I knew
[12/2/2012 4:33:43 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: However,
[12/2/2012 4:33:47 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: You were invited.
[12/2/2012 4:33:51 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: You are a guest.
[12/2/2012 4:33:54 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Remember that
[12/2/2012 4:33:56 PM] Placid09 EVE: wow
Yeah, wow.
[12/2/2012 4:34:24 PM] Placid09 EVE: ok, I’m not trying to get into ‘podcast pvp’ with you, I’m just discussing this
[12/2/2012 4:34:52 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: You don’t have to agree with me. I don’t expect you to, but the room has to remain in control and I’m not going to let you or anyone else detail what the room is trying to accomplish.
[12/2/2012 4:34:59 PM] Placid09 EVE: do I have permission to speak frank without having to worry about you booting myself or the rest of the cast?
[12/2/2012 4:35:13 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I just want to make sure we are on the same page and very clear about the future of this project.
[12/2/2012 4:35:30 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Are we clear?
To be clear, the project is Get Dani Elected to CSM8. This part of the discussion seems to be about bringing the CSM into the project. Of course, since Dani wants to be on CSM8, bringing her competitors into the channel would very much defeat the purpose of the channel.
[12/2/2012 4:35:44 PM] Placid09 EVE: can I ask you a question Dani without you taking it the wrong way
[12/2/2012 4:35:52 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: After you answer if we are clear or not.
[12/2/2012 4:35:57 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: You can ask me whatever you like.
[12/2/2012 4:36:00 PM] Placid09 EVE: I’m trying to work with you, I think it’s a great project, I think I’ve shown that
[12/2/2012 4:36:21 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: But I need to make sure there are no miscommunications.
[12/2/2012 4:36:26 PM] Placid09 EVE: I am clear, this is your project afterall, and I will do whatever I can to help you make it better
[12/2/2012 4:36:39 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Are we clear?
[12/2/2012 4:36:42 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Yes or no?
[12/2/2012 4:36:51 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: That’s all I need right now.
[12/2/2012 4:36:56 PM] Placid09 EVE: if that even goes to the point of removing the podside staff because of whatever miscomunication you believe there is
[12/2/2012 4:37:04 PM] Placid09 EVE: but I still have questions for you
[12/2/2012 4:37:55 PM] Placid09 EVE: maybe we should talk about this at a later time, you seem upset about something, I mean no ill will to this room or to the project
[12/2/2012 4:38:07 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I’m not upset about anything.
[12/2/2012 4:38:15 PM] Placid09 EVE: if you want me to back off on bringing ideas or even mentioning new people that should join I will
[12/2/2012 4:38:16 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I’m actually doing laundry waiting for a yes or no response.
[12/2/2012 4:38:25 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: If you need to wait to let me know yes or no, I’m happy do that.
[12/2/2012 4:38:30 PM] Placid09 EVE: yes or no on what?
[12/2/2012 4:38:58 PM] Placid09 EVE: that if I don’t like the way you run things I can leave?
[12/2/2012 4:39:05 PM] Placid09 EVE: yes I’m clear on that
[12/2/2012 4:39:21 PM] Placid09 EVE: that being said, I would rather work WITH you for the betterment of it
[12/2/2012 4:39:28 PM] Placid09 EVE: as I have stated many times now
[12/2/2012 4:39:31 PM | Edited 4:39:38 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: On “Are we clear?” I’d like a simply yes or no as I have started several times already.
[12/2/2012 4:39:53 PM] Placid09 EVE: are we clear on what Dani, I’m not going to give you a yes on are we clear when there is no clear on what
[12/2/2012 4:40:06 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Alright. Well how about this?
[12/2/2012 4:40:26 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: You can review the logs and when you’re ready to answer my question we can certainly continue.
[12/2/2012 4:40:47 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I”ll be around until 10pm CST off an no. I have a Tourney to prep for, so once that’s starts I’ll be off grid until it’s over.
[12/2/2012 4:40:53 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I look forawrd to speaking with you again Placid.
[12/2/2012 4:41:00 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I hope we can settle this soon.
[12/2/2012 4:41:07 PM] Placid09 EVE: that we are on the same page for the future of this project, so what is the future of this project
[12/2/2012 4:42:15 PM] Placid09 EVE: tbh Dani this feels like some middle management miscommunication when it doesn’t have to be, I don’t know why you are all defensive about it, if I over stepped my bounds just tell me.
[12/2/2012 4:42:46 PM] Placid09 EVE: does this go back to the NAON show where you think Pukin is a rascist?
[12/2/2012 4:43:39 PM] Placid09 EVE: these are the things I wonder, if you’ve been able to move on past misunderstandings
[12/2/2012 4:44:57 PM] Placid09 EVE: you run the EVE Pod pack, which should be about helping the community, I suppose it’s possible you didn’t know about Podside, though I highly doubt it, and the fact is we’ve never talked bad about Voices, I still greatly enjoy your show, and I think whatever ‘grudge’ still exists is bad for the community as a whole
[12/2/2012 4:46:02 PM] Placid09 EVE: we don’t and shouldn’t just be doing these podcasts for fun, especially the high profile ones we run, you have CCP and other high profile guests on a lot, same as Podside, and at that point it should become about helping the community
[12/2/2012 4:47:01 PM] Placid09 EVE: there, I’ve asked my questions and said my piece, once you let me know what the future of this project is, let me know and I’ll agree to be on the same page, because then I’ll know
[12/2/2012 4:47:21 PM] Placid09 EVE: and if you want help with it, I’m here to help, no ill will
[12/2/2012 4:48:51 PM] Placid09 EVE: and if you feel that some people should be removed from the podside cast from the room, let me know
[12/2/2012 4:50:07 PM] Placid09 EVE: also, just to warn you, Mean Harri appears to be starting a podcast with a m8 of his, but I know there is a 3 episode limit, figured I would tell you, also Zion Chad, who is Podsides Dust representive will be starting a Dust podcast after christmas when he gets a new computer
[12/2/2012 5:07:58 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I see a lot of textr, but I still yes or no. As soon as I get that answer we can crtainly continue.
[12/2/2012 5:08:45 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: It’s clear that your response to my questions doesn’t mean much to do, but it means something to me.
[12/2/2012 5:08:46 PM] Placid09 EVE: what is the future of the project
[12/2/2012 5:08:54 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: It’s continuation.
[12/2/2012 5:09:18 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Anything other than that I am keeping on a need to know basis.
Are we clear on the future of the project? Except, I’m not going to explain the future of the project, because SPAIS!!
[12/2/2012 5:09:44 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: And specially it’s continuation with those currently present in the room and those who may join later.
[12/2/2012 5:09:53 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: So yes
[12/2/2012 5:09:55 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: or no.
[12/2/2012 5:10:19 PM] Placid09 EVE: so you won’t even show me the respect of reading what I typed?
[12/2/2012 5:10:35 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: You won’t give me the respect of answering a question I typed multiplue tims before that.
You won’t actually give him the respect of telling him what the question is.
[12/2/2012 5:10:48 PM] Placid09 EVE: because the question doesn’t give any context Dani
[12/2/2012 5:11:16 PM] Placid09 EVE: I’ve already said this is your project, that you lead it, that I don’t want to compromise it
[12/2/2012 5:11:20 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: It does. It has a lot of context. Andright now your reaction and interaction is telling a lot more than a yes or no could. Which is why I asked it.
[12/2/2012 5:11:40 PM] Placid09 EVE: so if I say yes will you read what I typed?
[12/2/2012 5:11:58 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: You continue to ask me questions when you haven’t answered mine.
This is like dealing with a three year-old.
[12/2/2012 5:12:03 PM] Placid09 EVE: yes
[12/2/2012 5:12:07 PM] Placid09 EVE: yes I agree Dani
[12/2/2012 5:12:21 PM] Placid09 EVE: I agree to whatever terms and conditions you have for your skype channel
[12/2/2012 5:12:22 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: You do rellize how that does not fit in to what you’re saying.
[12/2/2012 5:12:39 PM] Placid09 EVE: I want the best for the community
[12/2/2012 5:12:43 PM] Placid09 EVE: that’s all
[12/2/2012 5:12:48 PM] Placid09 EVE: I never meant to start a fight
[12/2/2012 5:13:32 PM] Placid09 EVE: as I stated earlier, I’m sorry I brought people in without asking you first, if you listened to Podside or gave us the time of day you would know we do have many regular hosts
[12/2/2012 5:13:37 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Now for you benefit, I will let you know I read your statments prior to even reasking. That is the level of coutresy I gave you without your relizing it though you continued to be discourteous and disrespectful.
Huh? He was asking for clarification, which you refused to give.
[12/2/2012 5:13:39 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Know that.
[12/2/2012 5:14:12 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: But that does not mean I will ever allow you to push me to your will as you tried. This is not a dynamic I will tolerate.
[12/2/2012 5:14:25 PM] Placid09 EVE: how did I try to push you to my will?
[12/2/2012 5:14:42 PM] Placid09 EVE: I asked a few questions, I’ve stated I want the best, and I’ve stated this is your project and if you want us to leave we will
[12/2/2012 5:15:05 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Now whatever your pre-dispositions maybe betwen Pukin and I, that’s between us. It does not consern you nor Podside. That’s how I deal with it and that’s how I would hope people on S8 are dealing with it.
[12/2/2012 5:15:37 PM] Placid09 EVE: the thing is that if you are still upset with Pukin and take it out on Podside, it does effect me
[12/2/2012 5:16:12 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: As for not talking about Podside on voices. I don’t talk about a lot of podcasts and really that’s not something that’s wise to measure. Starfleet Comms became really entrenched with that and it turned out badly for them.
[12/2/2012 5:16:53 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Well you need to check what ever “the thing” is because it’s probably broken. I know that can see like that easy answer but really I just don’t care that much.
[12/2/2012 5:16:58 PM] Placid09 EVE: I’m not asking for you to talk about podside, I’m asking for you as the eve pod pack leader to be willing to entertain ALL podcasts
[12/2/2012 5:17:28 PM] Placid09 EVE: as in, be willing to listen to them personally
[12/2/2012 5:17:33 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Pukin is a dude over the internet I met once and will never meet again. Though Eve and other games I’ve met tons of people. He, you, just one of thousands and more if I attend Fanfest.
[12/2/2012 5:17:35 PM] Placid09 EVE: not having to promote them on your cast
[12/2/2012 5:17:41 PM] Placid09 EVE: just listen to them, check them out, see if you like them
[12/2/2012 5:18:01 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: No, I don’t have to listen to all of the podcasts.
[12/2/2012 5:18:09 PM | Edited 5:18:19 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I provide a metafeed not a review service.
[12/2/2012 5:18:27 PM] Placid09 EVE: but as the pod pack host, you would think you would at least give them a listen
[12/2/2012 5:18:54 PM] Placid09 EVE: it seems ass backwards to have that title and ignore podcasts
Bear in mind, that Dani has a webpage devoted to EVE Online podcasts, but she only lists podcasts she deems worthy. Placid09, on the other hand, has a similar page and includes all podcasts without prejudice.
[12/2/2012 5:19:08 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: You would think a lot of things. A lot of things are wrong.
[12/2/2012 5:19:15 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I have a personal life, family, friends, etc.
[12/2/2012 5:19:30 PM] Placid09 EVE: you listen to podcasts at work I thought Dani?
[12/2/2012 5:19:34 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Contray to popular belief I do things outside of Eve like work, go to movies, have interests.
[12/2/2012 5:20:01 PM] Placid09 EVE: and beyond that, I’m not saying you need to listen to EVERY episode, but your refusing to listen to ANY episode
[12/2/2012 5:20:09 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I do. I like to Keith and the Girl, Aiesha Tyler’s podcast, a couple of other gaming podcasts.
[12/2/2012 5:20:38 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: My life and what I enjoy does not center around eve by any means. I’m not obligated to anything. I do something nice. That’s it.
[12/2/2012 5:21:17 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I do something nice. Not something that obligates me. Not something that requires additional activites. I do something out of the kindness of my heart because someone else let it fall to peices.
I’m not even sure if I should comment on her kindness of my heart statement. This entire endeavour is so self-serving. Kindness and hearts don’t even enter the equation.
[12/2/2012 5:21:28 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I’ve already done more than enough.
[12/2/2012 5:21:45 PM] Placid09 EVE: then we’ll have to agree to disagree
[12/2/2012 5:22:07 PM] Placid09 EVE: either way, that was just a few questions I had and you’ve answered them
[12/2/2012 5:22:40 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Then we have.
[12/2/2012 5:22:53 PM] Placid09 EVE: as far as the skype group, I won’t add anyone, it’s your group, I don’t know neccesarily what kind of ‘management’ it requires other then the google doc, but as I said, if you need help, I’m still more then willing to
[12/2/2012 5:23:17 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: If you want to dedicate all of your time to people who question you, give you a hard time and are absolutly ungrateful; more power to you.
[12/2/2012 5:23:28 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I pray you don’t run in to the same people/obstacles I did.
[12/2/2012 5:23:46 PM] Placid09 EVE: being as I’m assuming your directing that comment at me, how have I been ungrateful?
[12/2/2012 5:24:21 PM] Placid09 EVE: and what we’ve found on Podside is delegating tasks to more then one person helps take the burden off
[12/2/2012 5:24:31 PM] Placid09 EVE: so you can enjoy that life and family more
[12/2/2012 5:24:48 PM] Placid09 EVE: and when stuff comes up in RL there are people to take the load without the community suffering
[12/2/2012 5:24:56 PM] Placid09 EVE: just my two cents
[12/2/2012 5:25:55 PM] Placid09 EVE: I dunno, maybe you were a bit shocked with how many active podcasts and podcasters there were
[12/2/2012 5:26:10 PM] Placid09 EVE: there’s actually an Australian one that’s quite good too
[12/2/2012 5:29:45 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: The way you’ve behaved in the room the entire time.
[12/2/2012 5:30:07 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: You’ve been increadiable displeasureable to interact with and are the one person that makes me regret doing this.
[12/2/2012 5:30:19 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: No one else. Just you.
Because he didn’t want to answer a blind question with a yes or no, he’s displeasurable.
[12/2/2012 5:30:23 PM] Placid09 EVE: excuse me? how so?
[12/2/2012 5:30:24 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: ot even Pukin who I apparently hate.
[12/2/2012 5:30:56 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: You always have something negative to say. You always want to instigate with me. The let’s bring in the CSm thing was just combative the way you approched me.
[12/2/2012 5:31:19 PM] Placid09 EVE: wat… I was not trying to be combative at all…
[12/2/2012 5:31:27 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: You’ve just been displeasureable. So as of the moment if I have any resentment for Podside it’s your doing.
It’s always someone else’s fault in these situations. Blame is always transferable.
[12/2/2012 5:31:33 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: And that may be the case but you have been
[12/2/2012 5:31:45 PM] Placid09 EVE: we happen to have the CSM’s on quite a bit and I thought it would be a good idea if podcasters had easier access
[12/2/2012 5:31:48 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Like why in the hell did we need to take 30 minutes for a yes or no answer. That’s just being an ass and posturing
[12/2/2012 5:31:53 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: It’s raelly is.
[12/2/2012 5:32:00 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: And I’m sad.
[12/2/2012 5:32:07 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I also don’t want to deal with this shit.
[12/2/2012 5:32:31 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I want to do run so I am. Cut the shit please. I don’t want to be your enemy. It’s way to much effort and I don’t care to use my effor for that.
[12/2/2012 5:32:46 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: Just be chill, don’t over step and just… enjoy.
[12/2/2012 5:33:21 PM] Placid09 EVE: wow, you think I’m like trying to bullshit and be your enemy but this entire time I’ve been apprective and have loved the room and have tried to help and think of new ways to make it better
[12/2/2012 5:33:28 PM] Placid09 EVE: and think of other podcasters
[12/2/2012 5:33:47 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: The way you act does not that say that even if it is your intention or desire.
[12/2/2012 5:34:06 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: So just keep that in mind in the future and we’ll be fine.
[12/2/2012 5:34:12 PM] Dani (Arydanika) Eden: I’m otu though. Things to do.
[12/2/2012 5:34:22 PM] Placid09 EVE: and the reason I took so long to say yes Dani is because I just didn’t understand the question, my personality is to not give a yes or no answer an answer unless I actually understand the question
Feel free to bag on me for posting this. It needs to be out there. And CCP needs to be aware of the exclusive community they are getting involved with.
You can read more of Poetic Stanziel’s opinions at his Poetic Discourse blog.
Arydanika, your an idiot, are we clear on that?
*you're
Is this a yes or no question?
dear lord TLDR for this wall of drama
after reading^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hwasting my time with this article, not sure who is worse, that whiny bitch who is posting his personal drama here, whining about that other bitch who wants to be important with ccp, or the other way around?
maybe you guys should focus on researching true stories rather than creating and posting about your own little stupid no one cares about dramas.
Judging by all of the other comments, I'd say plenty of people care about the subject matter.
Wow, just wow! Placid09 has the patience of a saint.
Props Poetic for making this available to the EvE community.
his bitch sounds like the wicked princess of podcasts. Needs a straight shot to the baby maker tbh
This*
Sounds like Dani needs a constructive hobby to occupy her time with… and a good fucking. Sorry you know it had to be said. This kind of lame and transparent attempt at a power play is a sign of idleness of mind and body.
What an unpleasant person…
tldr, not news dont care
Are they married?
Must have dated at the very least, right?
We want a clear answer. Yes or No, please.
So…. much….. text
It should be a law to add a tl;dr
tl;dr Arydanika is a sycophant.
Confirming this.
Seriously, that girl is fucked up. Do we want an Eva "Spoon" Jobse on the CSM again?
u mad coz u never got elected lol jks ofc
i agree with ur comment tho
And your articles are boring me to death …. seriously the best thing about your writing is the comments after telling your to STFU
LOL riverini moderates replies to his post
LOL …. yeah riverini your perfectly normal
your an ass and will never get into dani's pants with that face!
Well that's a relief … so just your mom then? Kidding kidding …
… I don't do fat bitches
Internet spaceship nerd with butthurt and a boner for eve women detected!
Actually no…. i remember that drama queen back when she was with SMA absolute pain in the ass. And besides, unlike many of the spergy bitches on en24, i prefer women I can actually touch.
And yes I am confirming that I am indeed an internet spaceship nerd.
Still I just hate seeing yet another pointless article from Poetic Stanziel
You Will Respect My Authoritah!
( ) yes ( ) no
I see it like this:
- Poetic is yellow press sensationalist, in yellow press media, pushing his dislike over Dani
- Placid09 is idiot, who:
– does not understand what the security is and what would be involved if some random asshole copy pastes log from that channel with ccp dev misinterpreted
– is whining bitch by handing over logs, against something called Netiquette
- Dani is cool woman actually making CONTENT and providing service to the community, her only mistake was not having mechanism in place to prevent him overreaching himself, which is arguably very hard to achieve with Skype
This, exactly.
Back when CCP was working on Incursions, there was a similar channel up for player representatives from the various Incursion running groups. CCP was in a private channel with these leaders directly, and it was very productive for a while, as long as security was maintained. Dev's are notoriously skittish about interfacing with the public (hence working with the CSM and building long term relationships and only lurking on public forums) yet will often meet quietly with chill groups that stay positive and constructive.
But security is ALWAYS the issue. The minute there's bitchy drama, or trash talk, or evidence of metagaming, or dishonesty, or disrespect – these channels get shut down. In the case of the Incursion channel, several players invited some friends into the channel that ended up not being able to respect others in the channel, the dialogue turned to backstabbing and non-stop arguments, and in the end CCP wanted nothing to do with them.
Dani was attempting to start up a place where the podcasting community could get to know some CCP staff (and the CSM as well) in a chill setting. This channel was awesome for an entire month, with no campaigning as Poetic fabricates here, and no drama. Placid, who used to brag about "not participating in Podcast PvP, we're a neutral ground" inexplicably violated Dani's own attempt at creating neutral ground, and destroyed his own opportunity to get to talk with CCP devs on a more regular basis. By not understanding this simple respect rule (dont drag people into the channel without asking, no matter who they are) he ended up sabotaging what could have been a great opportunity for the community and CCP to get to know each other better, and hopefully to foster more CCP staff appearances on podcasts.
But because Placid couldn't handle the fact that Dani was the one responsible for moderating the channel (meaning she had to vouch for each participant, if a problem broke out it was on her head) and expected this to be some public come-one come-all podcasting utopia, he decided if he couldnt have it his way, than nobody could. So he took his beef to the Perez Hilton of the EVE Media circuit, and gave Poe all the gasoline he could piss out to start the bonfire.
In the end, no CCP staff in their right mind will now participate in the channel. Its a sad day and reflects poorly on Placid that he couldn't just play nice and show some respect for the security Dani was (rightfully) trying to maintain, and ended up being the very reason Dani was screening participants in the first place – to weed out the drama whores. The entire community loses out now because two podcasters couldn't get along. Its pretty asinine, I don't know what the hell Placid was thinking.
In the future – if you're a player, and you are invited to a channel where Devs might be stopping by, RESPECT THE MODERATOR. Don't give them attitude. It's not your channel, its theirs. They are the one talking to CCP, and vouching for the group and the groups ability to stay respectful and civil. Getting indignant about being able to have it your way and invite whoever you want ruins these opportunities for everyone. Grow up and learn to play nice, or lose the privilege. Its common sense stuff here.
Interesting… I never heard about any such channel set up for Incursion channels representatives…
No wonder armour got fucked so bad
Thing is that when I joined the room I was never told that I couldn't invite other podcasters. I was told it was an open room, it was 'our' room. I volunteered to leave and remove the rest of the Podside hosts if that would help secure her mind. If she had gone about declaring these rules better to people coming into the room from the beginning it wouldn't have been an issue. It's not as if I was the only one that brought in other podcasters too, but I was the only one that was scolded like this, others were just told the rule and told to ask in the future.
There is also the fact that I waited a MONTH to release this to Poetic. It's not like I gave this to him the next day salivating with revenge. When it was fairly obvious no CCP devs were going to be joining us besides CCP Manifest, who is the Social dev, I figured it was no longer an issue of waiting for more devs to scare away.
In the end as other people have said, all of this could have been avoided if the golden rule had been followed. Treat other people how you want to be treated, and show some respect. I felt I was shown none when I had shown her nothing but respect.
Yeah she made some content here for us all to enjoy.. Watching her little skype channel crash and burn.. Fails are great content!
Why don't you post with your real name, dani?
thats not the point, she was being a complete douche, even if he had the wrong idea she could have civilly worked along with him
If I was moderating, I would not have wasted so much words after second yes/no, he was clearly leading her.
The fact she did put effort to talk at length to him says she tried.
Well, I guess lessons learned – kick commies as soon as you spot them, stay away from Placid because he will cop paste your convo too if he gets butthurt.
What is all of this commie talk? I'm an importer in game, for sure don't believe in the communistic life style.
if you can't see issues with the long "yes or no?" mess from Ary then you're dumb. She clearly has a major power trip going. It's just a fucking skype session for christ's sake, and she's stating the "future" of it is on a "need to know basis", likes she's a CIA agent or something
At first I was like "What is this 3 paragraph lead up shit"
But then I was all "omg the drama is like a fine wine."
Poetic, you idiot. CCP does not WANT to talk to the entire podcast community.
They don't want to talk to every Joe Sperge that joins the channel. That's why you don't see devs on the forums that much. There is a reason for privately moderated channels like Dani was setting up.
Just because you feel it is "FOUR GRET JUSTISS" doesn't mean you get to dictate what CCP does or doesn't want out of its player interactions.
You know what they don't want? Spergy walls of text that wail about CSM conspiracies that you provide zero evidence for.
That's right, not a single point in this article was ANY evidence provided that Dani was out for a CSM run. It is simply assumed, cause its the only reason to create a dramabomb. This question has been asked on your blog post a dozen times, and yet you refuse to provide evidence that Dani had CSM8 aspirations.
Now YOUR "Aspergations" have dragged her through the mud, you've made Placid out to be a fucking retard, and the two you of you have succeeded in tearing down something the community was trying to build. There was never any CCP devs in the channel, just CCP Manifest, who already today, in that very same channel, called your article a complete fabrication.
Grow the fuck up. When CCP is telling you you're full of shit, its time to pack it up and take the drama home. This accomplishes nothing except giving you a chubby cause so and so smacked on so and so.
This is why I don't vote in the CSM elections, it just encourages them. Most of them seem to think they are in a West Wing MMO.
BTW how do you know CCP don't want to talk to the whole podcasting community – do you work for the Eve social media team?
Just a Yes or No, please.
OMG, that's officially the new "UMAD?"
Just a Yes or No, Please
Yes.
And if you have anything to say to that, shoot.
Just a Yes or No, please.
Get the fuck out.——->
Confirm you mad.
Ripard Teg for CSM 8!!!!
I can make myself look like a fucking retard just fine, thank you very much!
That being said, if you are going to start a skype channel for podcasters to talk to devs, if you exclude podcasters from it you're going to have issues. Especially when the person choosing the exclusions is a member of the community and is supposed to be a community leader. In that position it should be a CCP person making the exclusions so there is no call of favoritism.
I am no longer in the channel so I don't know if he called it a 'complete fabrication,' but all of the logs are legit, I have no reason to lie.
So…“Contray to popular belief I do things outside of Eve like work, go to movies, have interests.”
“My life and what I enjoy does not center around eve by any means. I’m not obligated to anything. I do something nice. That’s it.”
“I do something nice. Not something that obligates me. Not something that requires additional activites. I do something out of the kindness of my heart because someone else let it fall to peices.”
“If you want to dedicate all of your time to people who question you, give you a hard time and are absolutly ungrateful; more power to you.”
^Wants to be CSM?? (Just answer: Yes or No.)
She is so fake, I always wondered why alot of the podcast I listen to were not on the podpack. I'll never download her podxast again.
She still produces a good podcast though! And fact of the matter is she gets excellent guests, and you would limit yourself if you didn't listen. I still plan on listening to her cast because I think it's great!
She's just power tripping. Karma is a bitch.
That is all.
I haven't even finished reading it all, and I find that Dani is an outright B*tch.
Respect to Placid09, respect. I would have blown — but you are the King of Cool.
:smug:
Proof: A little power is a bad thing! Especially when you think you have it, but don't – then you can't understand why people won't answer your childish megalomaniacal demand "Are we clear?"
Nice, succinct assessment.
So what? Dank can be a bitch, get over it bro. Maybe you should invite all the ccp devs and csm and podcasters into the channel that you created and maintain for free
Oh that's right….
Fuck em Dani, much love
BEST SHOT
Please tell me what maintenance it takes to run the channel? I questioned that the entire time. If you know please inform me. I'm sure she put in some work to create it, but as far as maintenance… eh…
Part of the maintenance is to keep random assholes out, for the reasons explained already.
Do some work and make your fucking channel if you don't like it, you lazy commie.
I guess you can consider this maintenance, but it happens rarely. I was removed from the room after this blog was posted, but that was a given. Based on what you said, having to maybe kick someone every once in awhile is a hard thing and warrants the attitude of the moderator.
The room was for established podcasters, which means once they were in and their info was on the google document, there shouldn't be ANY maintenance, other then kicking me for starting drama and being a security risk apparently.
I have no plans on making a channel as long as she keeps her channel up, as the majority of the podcasters still have a place to chat with each other, which is what is the best thing this channel has done, and what she should really be commended for.
I care about wankers trying to grand stand and cut off other casters..
The comments on this blog alone illustrate why it's a great idea to have private groups.
Tldr : woman gets a bit text shitty with persistent internet wise arse.
As Pervetic quite proudly mentions, he's already got a reputation for haranguing female players. Not gonna end well this.
NO ONE TALKS BACK TO Dani (Arydanika) Eden ARE WE CLEAR YES OR NO?
Female version of Maka, LOLOLOL
or indeed female version of Haka…
I knew Arydanika back in SMA, and it is clear that her attitude hasn't changed in the slightest. She wants to be in control of everything, and when she doesn't, chucks a hissy fit over it. She's very self centered as she has proven by not caring about Podside, and very childish and ignorant at best.
I noticed that 5 times Placid09 has agreed to her terms, yet she plainly ignored it and kept claiming he never responded to her question.
I've listened to both podcast groups too, and have found Podside is much better than Voices of the Void.
Dani puts out an excellent podcast herself, and I will continue to listen to it. She obviously hasn't and won't listen to Podside, but that's besides the point.
Thank you for the support.
no drama queen attention whores on csm pls.
all i got out of this article is waaaaah she was mean to me she she wants to control everything dude get over it idiots are everywhere in EVE i mean look at SMA as whole lol or FCON just to name a few soooo much fail radiates from these too alliances lol
Tbh the podcast community (and blogging community to a lesser extent) are chock full of self-important people who genuinely believe that everyone else cares what they think. It takes a special sort of person to talk absolute shite (Voices and Podside are both great examples of this) for 40 minutes and go away with their head that little bit more inflated.
This is basically what happens when space-prima donnas collide.
I agree, somewhat. It`s one thing stating opinions, its another thing talking about yourself and getting tons of media because you want to advance your Eve fame and hope to either land a job hoping to become CCP [like Darius] or getting Eve famous like Mintchip.
I think there are people that just want a better Eve, I do. I know im wrong sometimes but I have been with Eve since I was a kid and love it and don`t want it to fail, but people who advertise real in game names and try to gain favor usually just want something selfish. But this entire article sounded like a 5 year old trying to make there parent feel bad, when they were just trying to help.
This is similar to the people on Eve24 who post talking nothing but shit about the site, then wasting there time reading it, and doing it over and over, if you dont want to hear it, then leave, she got that part right, except she acted like she was Mother Teresa talking at us for a hour each week, like we are thirsty in the desert without her
IDK why Guys in Eve are so damned blinded by the girl factor? Its not like it will get them laid.
In fact if I was a girl who was hit on by an Eve nerd instead of RL I would run and hide. i do notice Girls in Eve are smart in the way they abuse the men and manipulate them [Compliment in Eve] but I never understood, the guy side…..
TBH I never got guys like Elo as much as I liked him, its like he might get to see her 1 time a year but the other 355 days he is BF`s with his right hand
GSF/HBC have both been very very smart using Girls as spies though, great foresight. And TBH the first major Girl was snatched up by PL when she was a newb….And to be fair Mintchip is super Hott but honestly with 40k dudes lining up do these guys really think they have a chance?
I havent played other hardcore nerd games like WoW or LoL, so im honestly asking is the "Girl Mania" as bad in other games? Or is it that girls in Eve are so Evil and therefore attractive? I can say Evil girls and Crazies have always been my type, from Highschool to College to the military, I always loved them Damaged, Crazy and or Evil. Im wondering how much girls can get away with in other games?
Anyone have exp with this? The girls in Eve I know are cool and smart, but far from super flirts who talk like Sex Symbols, It`s just weird seeing some of the smartest groups of gamers [IMO Eve is by far a higher breed than WoW guys I have met or others who love the super strict games that protect newbs and retards] turn into full blown retards as soon as they hear a Girls/Female`s voice on Comms.
1 more thing [off topic] out of all your exp have you guys met any Female FC`s? I haven`t met any [Not that they couldnt just they didn`t]
Anyways these type things have actually steered me away girls from Eve unless I have flown with them long.
About Dani if she wants a "Elect me for CSM 8 channel" thats fine, but to cloak it with, "Podcasters only" then complain and bitch when they come in and "Scare away CCP"? This could only be from a spoiled brat…..Sounds like getting her way in Eve has made her weak TBH, where as the ladies I know have been hardened by Eve, say what you want about Wick and Lady Scarlet but they sure are tough, and they dont overly freak out most times [at least as not more than any Drama/Queen like Makk, Twinkey or others.]
TL;DR
Would you guys who play a lot of MMo`s say girls in Eve have More? Less? Or the same pull/sway over dudes in game?
And what game was worst and why?
mint chip is as hot as she is stupid and annoying
lol at any guy on internet spaceships who get googly eyed of a girl paying him a complement on this game if u are that hard up that u get all excited when a girl u don't know or have ever seen pays u attention then u need to go out take a good look at urself dust urself off and get on with it (dust urself off was code for those who don't get the connotation)
anyways nerds of EVE u know u can pay for it instead of giving up ur intellect every time an EVE girl pays u attention
I lol`d its so true
TBH I think Mintchip is hott, im not into her and wouldn`t just let her into my Corp because she is hott like these brainwashed nerds, but I can objectively say I think she`s cute, same way I can say Elo is a good FC and not want to jump his bones like all of GSF, but I do so bad example
The funny thing is in Eve the dude who carry on these E-Relationships are probably paying more than a dime piece hooker, reminds me of the guys at strip clubs wasting all there money night after night…Hint YOU ARE A MARK, A SUCKER AND NOTHING ELSE!
20 Dollars a month plus all the time they could be working vs just going to a strip club/calling escort service and getting 'Bossed Up' vs internet drama huge blue balls and probably a semi ugly e-princess…..I dont get it either.
The guys who do this have to have had zero play in there lives, or the girl becomes all of there fantasies come true, finally a girl who will love you for playing eve 23/7 in your boxers while eating chicken, yeah that must be it….But GUYS A HOOKER WILL LOVE YOU DEEPER AND LONGER THAN ANY E-Lationship….
Skip the Eve steps get your Dick wet elsewhere and stop losing ships to girls who you have never seen/ see 1 time a year, you aren`t Davy Jones and she isnt Kiera Knightly
…TBH if I was a girl I wouldn`t play Eve the way dudes drool all over them, and I wouldn`t want a girl who wanted me knowing about my horribad Eve addiction. My girl knows but not by choice, and if she knew before I got her in the military/College she wouldn`t want me, and I wouldn`t blame her.
And this crazy bitch Dani sounds like Tokyo Rose who the F*ck would want a drama queen like her?, she would just blame you for everything wrong in her life.
Reminds me of my mother….RUN AWAY!!! I bet she'll fly off the handle if you don't let her have the last word.
I did read her entire thing, Spoiled little 5 year old that went full retard from the sound of it….Typical Goonie
P, seriously why didnt she just pull him from channel and STFU, this will definitely hurt her CSM, lucky for her Goonies wont care about shit and she will get the 40k Votes Mittens tells them to vote for.
There really is a huge advantage in Eve as far as a single leader, remember old NC, they had same number of members give or take 5k, but they had 3-4 Canidates, where as GSF will control all of CFC and elect whoever is best for them.
Sad but I have yet to see a Eve Republic type government that worked, hell even 2 Monarchs never works. Can anyone remember a Government in Eve that was a Republic/Elected officials/Multiple rulers that worked?
She is lucky she has her 40k Votes, otherwise this would have killed her.
She sounds like sh is trying to be a Mittens or Vile manipulating him, but she is doing a horribad job while they were/are genius at it. If you ever read Viles/Mittens tag team of ME new pres that one time it shows the Tag-Team Monarchs at work and how they ended up breaking him down and getting him to second guess himself so bad, ME basically never recovered….They were Evil, but Genius, she just comes off as stupid and entitled.
Mynnna is the Goon candidate. Not Dani. Dani is an idiot. What does she actually know about the game? Her killboard would suggest not much.
Where is the proof that "Dani" is doing this to run for CSM 8, or that she plans to run for CSM 8?
Or is this a we need to find jester a girlfriend for when he runs for CSM 8, since everyone (just poetic) knows jester is running for CSM 8?
There's no proof because the whole idea of a CSM run for Dani is yet another spergy fever dream. Believing there is some sort of Grand Master Secret Plan that is the Real Reason someone says something you don't like is a sign of mental illness, you know.
how the hell he kept his cool for that long i will never know, i woulda told her to fuck right off and sit on my cock!
Pathetic. Stan you've misjudged it yet again. If you did deem this newsworthy just print the log. The scratchy little footnotes make you look more of a clown than any of the actors in this debacle. Man up dude.
Tldr: 2 bitches and a snitch.
I hate it when people white knight on ethnics as well Stan. Does that make beating on them alright?
Women trying to power their way through things makes them ugly, there often seems some sort of frustration going along with it..
Wall of text hits structure………boom headshot.
Placid_09 is right in saying that a project like this should benefit the entire community and not just a select few. It has never been a secret that Ary has some issues with some podcasters, Jade and Pukin are one of those examples and she has reflected this several times. I think that when a person decides to represent a community orientated project it should not just represent 1 side of it.
Pukin had issues with people in the past, even before Podside and never once have I heard him about that in a negative way and never have I heard him bad mouth any of the other podcasters during his shows.
I think Ary should keep the community in mind when she wants to represent it and not be selective about it.
It is a good thing that sometimes posts like this get out because the community can then make up its own mind who to support and who they neglect because that is what this thing is all about. I dont listen to Voices ever since she started knocking Jade about some stuff and I found that disrespectful because their inner issues should not be reflected on the community and we as listeners should not be hearing that bullcrap.
Fark…. what is is, an episode of neighbours ?
Well, that was pretty cunty. PMS 4 CSM !
I also don't get why she of all podcasters has this kind of status as a pack leader. Why is her little skype channel interesting to the other hosts?
How does this help win sovwar?
sounds like dani set this room up for a reason and someone is butt hurt because she laid the law down on him and now he wants public revenge. it's understandable what she is doing and why she has to go nazi to protect her project. It's hers and hers alone and she can invite anyone she wants whatever her reason is. SO STOP CRYING and go out and create your own skype room and add whomever you want.
This is all an act of futility …. I am currently a DJ for Eve Radio , and from that I can tell you , the DEV part of this is silly, no DEV's will be allowed to just pop in and out of the skype channel because the new management at CCP has decreed , If you want to talk to a DEV you have to submit a request and they will decide if you can or not … so setting up a channel for podcasters to talk to DEVs is just setting up a channel for something that is not gonna happen… the rest is just taking rides on drama llamas..
Who are these people? Why should I care?
I'm with this guy or girl
wow.. just wow…
This concept of yes/no confuses and infuriates us!
Dani comes across as ever so fun to work with.
Arydanika is a well known goon whore. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY?
Yes, she sometimes has interesting guests on her show, but that cannot compensate for her terrible personality, abrasive behavior and downright disgusting goon favoritism.
This chick comes off as a 90's sitcom depiction of the bitchy wife/mom. Take your pick, Mom from Malcom in the middle, wife from Everybody loves raymond. Holy god, she even brought up the fact that she was doing the laundry.
Maybe Placid left a pen in his pants pocket again and it ruined Dani's shirt. I know my wife gets steamed up when I don't empty my pockets before putting clothes in the hamper.
"There's a HUGE stain on my fucking shirt! Did you leave a pen in your pocket? Just a Yes or No!!!"
So sweaty ginger Room nazi is on her jam rag week and threw toys out of her cot, whaat does this have to do with the price of fish?
Reading it i am suprised he didnt blow his top, credit due there but seriously the rest of it shes just a jumped up bitch but then again all the birds in EVE seem to have massive chips on thier shoulders.
Games dieing, toooooo many people trying to metagame way to get a job with CCP and get free stuff ingame.
Whatever happened to actually doing somehting in game to win and not trying to win xfactor geek idle that the csm is lol
gurl….get laid ffs , you teribly need it
after reading this i thought, wow dani you really are dumb as fuck, you wanted an answer to a question you were not even asking and acted like your god all fucking mighty when pressed for what the question actually was, if this channel is setup for pod casters to interact with DEV's then all pod casters should be otherwise its counter productive and is only trying to give her power that she does not deserve. if i was placid i would have fucked her over big time for acting like such a stupid douche.