Amidst the smoke of the last piece of news involving a coup, change of leadership and talks of failscading, here comes a bit of extra attention for Tribal Band this week, and not of the good sort.
Fo Rumalt, a member since early 2012, has apparently ran away with slightly more than 40 billion ISK in blueprints, fuel blocks and other heavy items.
Despite a crude attempt at hiding the identity of the character, “-malt’s Impairor” can be clearly seen at the top as well as his alt “For Umalt” on the station guest list.
According to Kugutsumen posters, he also had his way with two jump freighters and a few characters which Tribal Band might have helped to acquire. We have not been able to confirm this point despite Triget giving us an alleged complete lineup of the thief’s alts but it is undeniable that For Umalt has been involved in several purchases of industrial characters within a very short time earlier this year.
Three confirmed purchases in two days (29th and 30th January) and close to a dozen more attempted purchases of industrials and haulers in those 48 hours which seems to indicate corp/alliance business and, probably, corp/alliance funds.
EN24 tried to reach the thief for his input as well as confirmation on the stolen jump freighters and characters, which would mean the total losses are significantly higher. Upon confirmation that Fo Rumault is in fact The Feuror, a Nulli Secunda pilot, he posted the following on the official EVE Online forums.
forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2358913#post2358913
It is safe to say that the ships, despite Tribal’s claims, were indeed stolen.
If we trust his word, he will soon start selling the stolen characters: three jump freighter alts, and one 70 million SP industrial toon. Combined with the value of that Rhea & Anshar, we are getting from “pocket change heist” county into “titan-like budget” territory.
The Feuror concluded that he did it “just for the lol’s” and that he found it hard to believe that he was given director roles and power over alliance moon goo after two months in the alliance. He claims to have been posting his intentions on intel channels for months as well.
Triget assured that while a heist this big would have proven fatal to the alliance’s stability at any other time in their history, now their financial backbone is solid enough to take the hit (apparently thanks to the efforts of their haulers). Morale has taken a hit, but he is quite sure Tribal Band pilots are far more resilient than people give them credit for.
Inb4 "We didn't want that ISK anyway", "It's like 1 week's income, guys", and "It's already been replaced".
Okay, I give up, they aren't damage controling, and they aren't too upset about it.
Whats there to damage controll? And upset? One less "spai" + alts = Early cristmas gift.
Do you think that Pizza will run out of spy alts? Lol.
This comment smells of dissapointment, u mad it wasnt you?
Yeah.
Santa came early to Nulli Secunda this year.
I though Pizza was created to house all the spy alts ? I thought they make up 80% of the fleets?
I'm starting to feel bad for TRIBE. Do they really deserve to be shitted on day after day?
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Nullsec in general deserves it.
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Ahh f*#£ yeah!
40 bil isk those days is pocket change man.
Not for Tribe, man.
They could welp 10 fleets with that money.
So, what have we established in the past 2 months?
1) Tribe leadership is godawful and constantly backstabbing each other
2) Anybody can get into Tribe so it's full of awoxers and spies
3) When HBC calls, Tribe kicks corps and members
4) Tribe FC:s are craptastic and their line members can't fly (watch those damn videos…)
5) Tribe is now poor and without logistic backbone
6) Despite all that, Tribe guys are chestbeating in their own forums
7) Tribe fleet participation has plummeted, but when they do get the numbers they can't get to the fight because ~pizza bombers~
Wait so was this dude angry about what tribe decided? What did tribe decide? Grim splitting? Or Staying? Trig getting command?
Was this just opportunism ? Some morale stand?
Anyone from Tribe can you comment and answer for me please…..I got sucked into this like a soap oprea lol
Lastly this comes off to me as a Spy from a bigger alliance getting in position to take the isk before the alliance cascaded. But I could be totally wrong, although I have seen that before.
Right before ME+MM+IT there were spies in higher positions taking as much as they could and in the ruckess only a few were caught. Actually I was in a very elite small group where we knew we had a spy so the leadership decided to only give roles to 3 guys then sent a letter saying corp was failing but we were all moving day after tmrw and we waited in cloakys to see who came and sure enough the spy came in a JF and his 3 mains in pods to our main POS where we had Dreads/Carriers etc just sitting to be used in fast fleet action. Luckily we PS Worded the main POS so the JF+ his 2 out of corp alts were insta pop`d and we knew who he was
He was gonna eject groups of 3 Caps at a time 30 mins before DT and steal all Mods we were building for Corp Titan. [Was in 07]
Based on what I can fish from the waste pools that are kugu and kittens.com, it seems like Tribe is in the midst of a continued campaign by a lot of tiny/small but l33t neighbors basing from npc space (pizza, coven, nulli, etc. – although those guys are kos to each other too). The goal of their campaign doesn't seem to have a sov goal (because none of those guys could hold space there). Rather, those guys are having their fun making Tribe's life miserable. Using some Jedi mind trick, Tribe is still alive (yet not quite kicking), as it has gone through a continuous stream of small and big crises.
At least every NPC 0.0 Alliance would be a "better" SOV Holder for PB than Awoxing Band.
Srsly…. What are they without the HBC? Nothing.
C0ven (750 Member) attack the TRIBE (3k Members) SOV a few Weeks ago and TRIBE can´t do any shit, they need to call the HBC for Help.
As the Esoteria Campaign starts TRIBE decided to Deploy back and let other Players fight the War for TRIBE.
Fuck them!
Not to forget: With this "just right-click and accept" recruitment attitude, they are a threat to every other HBC Player. I Hope the day they disbanding/kicked out coming :soon:
they must have copied that policy from the CFC
Well you can try and come to kick us out from PB.
I will assure you it won't be that easy. We know HBC weaknesses and we know where to hit so it hurts. If you gonna fight us out of PB you're gonna regret it.
To be fair man Coven has been around what? 6 Years? Tribal is still going through massive growing pains etc.
no they are not going through massive growing pains, they will disband soon.
You really think so? Now that they have gone to one leader who seems very even keeled and very calm and clear headed?
Seemed like from audio he was reluctant leader and they often are the best ones, afraid to use there powers to often so they take others advice.
Hell George Washington was asked by the entire committee of the 3rd continental congress to be king of the United States, instead he chose only President.
They ganked his Merlin.
TRIBE decided to step away from a 3 leader democracy and give Triget complete command over the alliance. Grim, INCOV, myself, and all other entities support this decision. There are no plans to split away from TRIBE.
On subject of the corp & alliance theft. TRIBE lost 35b in assets in this, and INCOV lost about 9b. While it sucks to have things stolen from you, neither the alliance or corp will suffer from the loss in any noticeable way. Also for the record, neither INCOV or TRIBE helped this guy acquire jump freighters or characters, that is false information.
I don't believe that the member who did it had inserted his characters with the intention of stealing from TRIBE as he did help us out quite a bit and had plenty of other opportunities to thieve. I do believe that he may have become unhappy with the corp and/or alliance and just decided to part ways with as much money in his pockets as possible. There is no evidence to support these two opinions.
- Ghost Prophet
- INCOV & TRIBE Diplo
Thanks alot for the clarification I wish you guys the best.
Even though Im NCDOT I wish you guys well, I really hate break ups etc. I like clear boarders etc, it makes wars and fighting alot more fun
and when I see the boring Yellow north it makes me sick, so at least with smaller groups it breaks it up a bit. Hope to see you guys on the battle field.
Good Luck
bla bla love and unicorns, bla bla
Who gave a less than year old member that much access?
Is there any reason that this screenshot is small as fuck?
Anyone should tell the Gang Bang Players that Drone Damage Amps not working on Capitals.
WTB GB Comm Recordings as they realise they are not so big like their mouth.
They still work on caps, just not on fighters afaik
Blah blah blah TRIBE is shit! I know the player who did this and I can assure you, he was planning this from day one!!
Otard AKA master Hyde is the actual culprit in this, all of his lies and subtrifuge will not save him now!!
How such a small crime got to the headlines surprises me… Stolen more myself from a single corp than he managed from an entire alliance…
Maybe. 44 billions is still relevant to an entity such as Tribal Band.
If you have proven stories of bigger heists, I'd be delighted to read about them, man.
Yeah heists of this size happen probably weekly… but for Tribe it actually is a big deal.
Well I wanna read about all 30 bil+ Heists just like I wanna read about 15 killed carriers and 1 Downed SC
good to see a 5 month old scrub alliance still can get people so riled up
Excuse me while I LMFAO ………….
~Take money ……… Take money ……. Take money~
lmfao this is becoming a mirror of what happened in fountain… the last bit of the puzzle will be the taking over of alliance by test to guide in there rebuilding by putting people in a holding corp and poof the reset happens a week later .. get out fast guyz before all your assets are gonna be firesaled… or dont worry at all because test wants the best for you guys and wait for you to rebuild [chuckle]
Why is Bully Secunda doing this? Do they gain something of it?
Well they gain 2 JF`s and a few toons right? Also if he was a planted spy and Tribe had access to HBC intel including PL, then by assumption they would have a lot of details on AAA making him a very very valuble asset. Also just knowing the day to day operations helps a ton.
I wouldnt be suprised if we see in the near future a bunch of Tribe cap ganks etc if it was indeed a spy, or Master Hyde as he seemed to know alot of there military and POS locations etc. And a group like Tribe/Test/FA/FCON and groups that just rely on numbers is they let in Spies like crazy.
Im not so naive as to say NCDOT doesnt have spies because we do im sure, but by inviting only you cut down on the amount 1 million times more, and most times there is not a spy sent in but a frustrated player. This is why IMO Tribe was so eager to say it was a frustrated player not a spy, now everyone who becomes a director etc could rip them off.
This like an episode of "When Carebears Attack"
So EVE24 continues to publish unconfirmed news (rumors and conspiracy theories are written as truths, now the word of one player is better than others depending on the interest, and a troll post becomes confirmation of stolen goods?)
Interestingly that the same writer is presenting news with two months late as actual news? evenews24.com/2012/12/21/tribal-band-movin…
and when exposed for that the write the "actual update" lol
… for moments I thought I was in the Kugu forums not on eve24.
Already beginning to report real news and stopped with the information with which to plan to destabilize the alliance TRIBE.
First of all, I DID approach each and every part involved. I talked to Triget, and talked to Nulli until I could chat with The Feuror, which staged the heist.
He claims he stole two Jump freighters, which incidentally he is selling in the official forums. He claims to have stolen characters, which apparently will be put for sale soon, and it is proven that he DID purchase a number of indy and hauler toons. And it IS proven that he was a director and had access to alliance moongoo within 2 months of being in the alliance.
So, it's not "the word of one player". There's actually pretty good evidence, and nothing came from Tribal denying anything, or I would have posted it.
About the "old" piece of news: just came into my hands, buddy, and without a date. Can't do anything about it. The heist article got updated the very hour The Feuror gave me the updated info on characters stolen and such.
I have no intention whatsoever to destabilize anyone, nor I could if I wanted to. I'm sorry you're taking it that way. We just handle intel as it comes.
Do as Triget does: be cool, take it for what it is, and move forward. I sincerely hope you make other sort of news soon, and be sure to let us know about it.
Why is the word of a thief and a liar (he lied to tribe at least) true and the word tribe false?
All alleged proofs are only assumptions and assertions of pseudo actors … let's see
"…which incidentally he is selling in the official forums." sells or says it will sell?
"…which will be put Apparently for sale soon" and lets suppose that the sale is true… how does that prove that it sale stolen goods? and that the sale is not between accounts of the same player?creating the illusion of true sale? (Conspiracy theories are very simple to create seemingly)
the news: "Three confirmed purchases in two days (29th and 30th January), and close to a dozen more attempted purchases of industrials and haulers in Those 48 hours," the tribe alliance was founded on 07.17.2012 …
"… and it is proven he DID purchase a number of indy hauler and toons." and where is the proof That bought on behalf of the tribe whit TRIBE ISK?
"So, it's not" the word of one player. "" Not? and then what was the Criterion to gauge which one tells the truth and the other is lying, the Suggests the news?
"…Can not do anything about it." No'''… maybe check with the tribe … before publishing? and look like a independent and serious journalism?
"I have no intention whatsoever to destabilize anyone" then the times and the insistence in write negative things about TRIBE including forced news 2 months old is just casual … maybe the person who gives you the Intel are just manipulating … let the conclusions to the readers …
Again, I am sorry you are taking it that way.
Nulli Secunda claims they did steal that, you say they did not, and Triget said he can't confirm. What do we know for sure?
-We know that the thief has two Jump Freighters for sale.
-We know that the thief purchased SEVERAL indy and hauler toons in 48 hours, and tried to buy many more.
-We know he was given access to important alliance resources after 2 months of being a member.
Obviously whoever is feeding us details WANTS this to be published, but Triget was also contacted and he didn't want to comment on toons & JFs, or didn't know.
I will let readers jump into their own conclusions. In the meantime, do not hesitate to contact us with any relevant details or info.
Best of luck to you, guys.
Keep this in mind Gentlemen, the ISK speaks for itself!! the guy who pulled this off did an outstanding job of playing TRIBAL BAND!!
While not being the biggest inside job ever in EVE it is a good haul for him ISK wise!!
TRIBAL is going to recover, and The Feuror will continue to love his ISKIES!!!
Good Job Mein Feuror!! Seig!
And as for the Player known as Master Hyde, You know what you are doing bro!!
If this was indeed Master Hyde the guy on the tape, he was frustrated as hell and they wouldnt let him speak, TBH he sounded like the brains military wise, and probably put alot of sweat into the Alli.
If he got characters from this then the Theft was Huge. Hell a 60m mil SP toon can be 12-20 Bil depending on how spread out SP is. So if he got say 2-3 Toons+ the 35 Bil he will have gotten at least 50 bil+.
The question is who has motive to lie.
The Thief already has what he wants, so why lie when your heist has already worked?
Tribe has reason to protect itself by not acting weak, because in Eve if you seem weak you will have 50 scammers in alliance faster than you can say corp thief.
I dont believe the author at all was making tribe look bad, it was simply a major story as tribe has been in the news often as of late.
""" So, it's not "the word of one player". There's actually pretty good evidence,… evidences LOL keep reading please
" and nothing came from Tribal denying anything, or I would have posted it. " So … are you saying? … 2 days ago …
""Ghost Prophet · 2 days ago
TRIBE decided to step away from a 3 leader democracy and give Triget complete command over the alliance. Grim, INCOV, myself, and all other entities support this decision. There are no plans to split away from TRIBE.
On subject of the corp & alliance theft. TRIBE lost 35b in assets in this, and INCOV lost about 9b. While it sucks to have things stolen from you, neither the alliance or corp will suffer from the loss in any noticeable way. Also for the record, neither INCOV or TRIBE helped this guy acquire jump freighters or characters, that is false information.
I don't believe that the member who did it had inserted his characters with the intention of stealing from TRIBE as he did help us out quite a bit and had plenty of other opportunities to thieve. I do believe that he may have become unhappy with the corp and/or alliance and just decided to part ways with as much money in his pockets as possible. There is no evidence to support these two opinions.
- Ghost Prophet
- INCOV & TRIBE Diplo
""
I, too, was quite disappointed to see a toon with only 2 months in corp being given such accesses. Trust me. INCOV leadership has had their collective pee-pee spanked over it.
Other than that, annoying and a bit of a blow to morale. But we will prevail.