Another day in null sec and another long wait on a titan. Oh the joys of EVE…
A Dronelands Coalition (DC) CTA, led by the infamous Elo Knight using the new Armageddon doctrine, was scheduled for 19:30 EVE time. As usual, it took ages to form the fleet and the CTA missed several dread kills. Undeterred and having nothing better to do, the grunts sat on a titan waiting “for their enemies to do something stupid”. At 21:00 it seems that someone did in fact do something stupid (or Elo’s balls were growing uncomfortable blue) so the order to wake up and prepare to bridge was given.
The 180 strong DC fleet, supported by a Solar Tech 3 fleet led by MACTEP himself, bridged into KZFV-4 and local topped 600. However, a NC. and Nulli carrier fleet were waiting for them on station, supported by a Whyso Tengu fleet and several dozens ships from Gorgon Empire, Unthinkables, and Gypsy Band. Several Tier 3 BC fleets (Nulli, NC., later to be joined by PL and Test) and a Red Alliance Scorpion fleet were also present.
Once grid was loaded, the DC fleet started shooting Scorpions and Tengus, trading Battleships for Battleships and T3. Meanwhile, Gypsy Band once again did what they do best and their galaxy infamous bombing runs took their toll on DC’s Geddon fleet, shutting it down on several occasions forcing them to switch to their cap boosters. At that point, the DC fleet started jumping from safe to safe, with their logi mostly intact and half their Geddons gone.
Comms buzzed that Solar wiped out the Tengu fleet’s logis, so DC’s fleet jumped back into the meat grinder to score as many kills as possible. Unfortunately, a PL tier 3 reinforcement fleet arrived and the balance shifted once more to the other side. With 39 Geddons left Elo Knight decided to disengage and go back home.
Total numbers killed in this engagement: 183 (23.95B) by Dronelands (including 22 tengus), and 116 (13.45B) by NeoCurse/N3/HBC
EVE-Kill report
Video of the engagement, from Gypsy Band perspective:
On the way home, the beleaguered fleet started to relax but it seems that the gods of war had different plans for them. A call urged them back to IAK-J (one jump out of KZF) where SOLAR were still engaged on the KZF gate. This engagement was far shorter, however. With the superior positioning of the Geedons fleet and the constant stream of Tier 3 ships jumping one by one into the Geddons sitting at 10 km off the gate, Elo’s boys were able to punch much above their weight and inflict good damage and kills despite their smaller numbers.
Once, the other side woke up from their victory induced stupor, they regrouped and jumped in to take care of the ambushing DC and Solar fleets. With the odds once more going against them, the DC Geddons left and headed home to Etherium Reach for good.
Tally: 56 (10.11B) kills for DC, 27 (3.75B) for Hostiles.
Eve kill Report
The mood within DC ranks was good, despite the loss of the station, since they decisively won the ISK war. Strategically, however, the Scalding Pass region continues to succumb to Red Alliance and NCC (Neo Curse Coalition) onslaught.
This report was written based on the perspective of a DC grunt. If you were part of this engagement and want to share, comment, or correct this report, please feel free to send an email or express your –angry- self below.
Seth
lol br
Gotta love it when NC. fights themselves. "Shoot everything that isnt green!!! Gogogo!"
Lol most biased Tittle I've ever read. Stupid Riverini still having no idea what actually goes on in eve.
Considering it was PL/Nulli/NC./Gypsy/RA/ and anyone else that is a PL pet in the south. Drone guys did pretty dam good. Still no idea why everyone is trying to prop up the dead husk that is RA. They are still worse than INK or Gypsy.
you mad bro?
He's not mad, he's right.
Let's try something more accurate…
You fail bro?
0.0 is an embarrassment to EVE.
The Goons & their pets have won.
GG.
Goon owns the best regions of Eve. While the "Elite PvP" alliances fight each other for the shitty space on the east/south of Eden rather than working together to destroy Goons. CCP isnt going to "fix sov" to prevent them from holding all that space or limit the size of alliances. You guys are going to have to put your giant epeens away and actually work together to change things. You dont have to keep each other blue forever. Just blue eachother long enough to get the job done and the tech moons out of Goon hands.
But as of right now, Goons have won.
Solar clearly has no intention of ever fighting Goonswarm. They had two chances to do something about them and they chose to recieve help from the cfc instead. If they went to us right now and said we want to go kill Goonswarm I guarantee we would join them in a second just like Gypsy Band joined us when we started fighting them. Sad part is together we could kill them but as has been shown Solar rather throw their allies like -A- under the bus than challenge Goonswarm.
lol goons and razor 300+ Nuli and Nc (3rd party neutral to all) and the all the ER allaince and freind and solar and -AAA- so yes solar will not fight goons
happen about an week ago local when too 934 top i think
I don't understand what you are trying to say can you clarify that if possible
goons brought 300 help solar( not alot as was ike 5am russian time about 70) and ER allaince 's had an fight with goons and nc and nulli came too shoot everyone
After an ex-PNG member, who was butt-hurt because he was kicked out of the alliance for screwing up the market, went to the forums and told everyone that there was a CSAA building something in JAW, Goons decided to go and reinforce it.
They came to finish the job thinking it would be as easy as pushing IRC around.
What they got was a long trip (due to the path being bubbled), and a large coalition of ppl (roughly 300-400), mainly Etherium Reach and Kavela Expense residents, waiting for them with a very small Solar and -A- support (like 30-50).
NC. and Nulli came in whoring with about 100 T3's, they shoot everyone.
In the end it was a good fair fight, and both sides had fun.
He's laughing at the idea of SOLAR not fighting the CFC and pointing to the CSAA in JAWX-R last week as evidence. Also he is not a fan of drakes.
Difference between what we did and what Solar and Goons did. We came and shot everyone. In Geminate they both shot us and didn't shoot each other if they were on the same grid alone. Hell they were told not to shoot each other by their fc's.
Yeah the fight where goons and nulli BLUED each other. Also if you read Kugu most of Test considers Nulli part of the HBC… Yet Gypsy and friends still fight next to them even though they are bigger sellouts than Solar could ever be…
Blued? Most of our kills in that fight were Goon rokhs so I don't know what you are talking about.
northern-coalition.co.uk/?a=system_detail&… our kb from that fight
HBC has wanted Nulli forever , and Nulli has refused time and time again.
Just because I say, I as a NCDOT`er who has no power in the alliance now claim AAA as being in NCC, doesnt make it so.
Thats a rediculous argument.
You would look a lot less silly preaching from your high horse about fighting the CFC if that horse wasn't propped up by the HBC. I don't care because I'm having fun either way, but you do realize that you're fighting the last coalition that isn't blue to the goons, right?
Last coalition that isn't blue to Goons? bullshit. Every oppurtunity Solar has had to fight Goonswarm they chose not to even thought it meant letting their ally -A- get burned to the ground and then they even had help from the CFC in Geminate. Preach all you want about how unfair it is that we are getting a little bit of help from PL when YOU got help from the CFC itself.
I'm pretty sure "NO U!" is not a valid retort when somebody calls you a hypocrite. I didn't call your diplomacy efforts unfair, I just pointed out that it's fucking stupid to go on about how destroying the CFC is some noble goal while simultaneously allying yourself with the HBC. Especially when you realize that the only difference between the CFC and the HBC is that the HBC is larger.
Maybe you didn't but most of Solar and Solar pets seem to feel this is completely unfair and that they don't deserve it. You worked with the CFC against us and are now seem shocked and upset that we are getting our own help.
Also I doubt HBC is larger than CFC. Razor has 3.3k people, FA has 2.4k, FCON has 2.5k Goons have 9k, Spacemonkeys have 2.4k, Gents have 2.1, Lawn has 1.5, TnT has 1.2, Legion has 1.2, Exec has 1.1, Convicted has 1k, I think thats all of them. Total: ~28,700 people after removal of 1500+ ppl from Goons for being active
Test has 11k, Tribal has 3.1, Unclaimed has 2, Zombies have 1.4, PL has 1.4 Init has 2, Raiden has 1k, Claimed has 900 I may have missed some let me know but those should be the main ones, any others probably only will add a few hundred each. Total: 22.8k without removal of inactive accounts/alts
I'll give you that, there are a disturbing number of people who are in null for the pve content, very confusing.
I can agree to that. Too many people in it for pve and not pvp in my opinion at least.
It's not really worth comparing numbers. It's safe to say both of those coalitions are massive and are full of terrible players.
Speaking of which I wish they'd just man up and attack each other instead of trying to work through other people's battles in the northeast.
That would imply they have balls.
I totally agree with you guy.
If HBC and GSF fought it would be my favorite day in Eve history.
I respect TEST because they say they are terrible CFC though IMO really thinks they are better than they are and IMO this makes the world of differance.
Still any HUGE block anywhere I wish was wiped out or cut into 10 groups and all they would have to do is kill Tec to do it.
Killing Tec= PL having no moons making them have to get contracts and or Sov
Test wouldnt own there moons that propped them up.
GSF would shrink to 1/8th its size, and FA, FCON and all PB residents would form PB Bros
And the whol main thing would crumble, tons of 5k-8k Coalitions would spring up and own 10-20 Tec moons because they would be far to spread out otherwise, and then we would go back to Eve when it had 5-10 Super powers not 3, You can say Souther Coalition from 2009 was 1 group but really IT AAA Atlas were all aligned in the hate of NC and they wanted tec, it wasnt about loyalty and remember how many people had tons of fun during those wars.
Randomly scatter Tec and see how HBC and GSF wither into 1/8th of there sizes.
Right now GSF simply is worth to much as the Glue of the north and HBC has enough Moons north to never worry so they just rent/Allegiance out by taking space and taxing ratters. Without Tec concentrated in one totally defensable area non of its possible. you need 10-15k Alliance of NCDOT/Nulli/PL/AAA Armies to take on GSF now that they are dug in and have so many damned timers….Grindind them alone would take months.
Death to major Blocks
Says it all, tbfh. bluefest of sh1t.
Lol HBC isnt larger…. You need a recount.
CFC is around 35-40
HBC is around 23-28
Next its the same as you helping Solar who helps CFC stop us in Tribute+Vale+Geminate
Where do you think the next huge loan to Test will come from? CFC Tec from there new moons in tribute and Vale in which Solar helped with.
It's okay guys HBC 'only' has almost 30,000 players in it.
Its by far a clear error to say HBC has the most guys.
Afterall
Even 30k [which is wrong BTW] < Than 35-40k
The point I was making here is that it's ridiculous to compare simple alliance numbers because it's meaningless and never takes into account numbers of alts, carebears, casual players and so on. It's even worse to put up these moronic number comparisons when you're talking about coalitions of tens of thousands of players.
You know this comparison started because the guy I was responding to from your side said "Especially when you realize that the only difference between the CFC and the HBC is that the HBC is larger." That opens the door for me to argue actual facts rather than just what you want to say to make your argument sound better.
So it's okay when you call for HBC help, but it isn't when solar asks for Goon help?
No, I am just saying that it is highly hypocritical to cry about us calling in a favor from PL when just 1-2 months ago you were calling for aid from the CFC. What goes around comes around.
In what way has Solar worked with CFC? In every engagement CFC has been fighting Solar and Co. (stop using pets/renters, so stupid). I've scrolled over countless killboards, and I have not yet seen a km with Solar and CFC members on it together, unless one of them were whoring with like a frigate or something… CFC never helped Solar in Gem or anywhere, it's always been a three-way (CFC coming to whore).
-A- got smacked because they burned down all thier bridges (left their nearby allies to die), and had no concern over their sov. They are here for the good fight, not to serve Goons in taking more sov, or yelling to the crowds that they have the biggest dick.
Stop listening to propaganda and open your eyes idiot.
By the way, you sound very butt-hurt… *show the doctor, where the bad man touched you*
Not butthurt at all and look through October kills if you really believe that. Solar and CFC fought on the same field many times and never shot each other. Hell Mactep even said not to shoot Goons. You sound very mad over this with the whole calling me an idiot and all calm down try to think clearly.
You "have not yet seen a km with Solar and CFC members on it together"?
How about a battle report of Solar+CFC vs. Dotbros?
www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14577...
Funny stuff, You guys show up to a 3 way and "Its to shoot everybody" so that makes it ok? Its no wonder you have so Few friends, The saddest part of this all is CFC, HBC is getting what they want by just sittng back and watching because some of these entities just cant past they're "ELITE EGO's" and they are "So Much Better than Someone Else", Just Remember, DIVIDED WE SHALL ALL FALL. Credit Due to those massive blue nap festers, terrible or not they are winning NULL SEC, and what about IRC DOT Bro man they tried to help you in Tribute, where are you now when Razor is knocking on Cobalt? What an asset you guys are, lol.
Let me start off with it's not our egos that are the problem. If Solar came to us saying let's fight the CFC we would join them in a second no questions asked. How do you propose we help irc when we are busy in the south and have your entire empire between us? Last I checked IRC is Solar's ally why don't you join us in protecting a mutual friend?
Dude sorry to say but Solar had there chance to go the right way vs Goons, then you bet your ass we [NCDOT would have sided with them on later OPS and alliances. Instead they chose to make us enemies. Then AAA decided it was ok. Gypsy Did not and broke away, so why do you think we support Gypsy?
You think we like Curse so much we need to take sov? Lol we play for fighting and for allies, we came for Nulli and Gypsy period.
Sorry but its true, now that Razor is on the edge of drone space they are getting worried, well we told them that 5 months ago and they attacked with [GSF co-ordination] us. And how about Solar leaving IRC to the wolves? IRC made it clear GSF was always there biggest threat and guess who they helped get rid of, yep DOTBROS who fought with IRC.
So as much as I wanna say, We need to band together all of us smaller guys and fight the blobs of bad pvpers, Solar made there choice, now Goons are going to make an excuse down the road of why Solar made these terrible crimes against them and how they cant be trusted anymore etc and take DR`s and Send Xdeath there promised lands back…..Seriously what was Solar thinking…..Xdeath+The biggest slimeballs in eve= You are going to die eventually.
Im to the point where I just want HBC and GSF to hit eachothers boarders, get rid of all but them 2 and have WW3 happen already. So we can fix Eve, where CCP has failed it.
Solar screwed IRC buy letting GSF have Tribute and Vale, IRC+Gypsy begged them to help DotBros….But nope instead they helped get rid of us, and with Solars manpower we definitely would have taken GSF all the way off the map, we simply were outnumbered 5k to 35k, this isnt on NCDOT at all its on Solar.
Dumbass you are what you preach a complete and utter retarded piece of shit that has 0 idea of what you talk about. I was even on comms when word was given in geminate from solar forces not to shoot cfc & hey bingo just like that throughout the northern war dotbros where fighting cfc in tribute, they were also fighting the cowardly vultures/opportunists that are solar wich in turn in a fair few fights worked hand in hand with cfc on the battle field. This denial is pitty full. Accept your a piece of shit and move on…
WTF you talking about , we have so many videos of SOLAR+CFC in one fleet shooting us in Gem, we also have them Solar`s T3 Loki+Legion corps taking huge DMG then our scouts who follow Solar home run into a 300 man Goon group of Drakes and the 40+ wounded T3`s with 2 Logi`s left passes them with no fire exchanged at all…..If that isnt blue I dont know what is.
Its just phenominal you must have had your head in the sand, all the times the NCDOT+Nulli guys called out Solar for siding with GSF, Hell Gypsy`s reason for leaving was partly Solar taking GSF`s side and Gypsies saw that in a year GSF would be taking there land.
-A- is not helping solar neither , nor they did help ROL or anybody…
anyway, all they can do know is wolfpack in immensea.
You can kill Goons no more than you can kill a turd. You might think your going to kill it when you go to stomp on it, but you just make a mess and smear it around over a larger area.
Best to just put them in a corner and stop it from spreading.
I'm not sure the combined forces of the other coalitions will be able to defeat goons at that moment. If goon space is really threatened the HBC will come to their aid. At that point they will have the super cap / logistics advantage. It will also stimulate a lot of pilots from GSF to join the fight (they were mostly inactive during the Tribute/VotS campaign).
If we could put the 500 people we have combined in the U.S timezone and the 1200+ in the early euro/late russian tz I think we'd have a chance. At the very least it would be a fight to remember.
Yes. Elo is very PrO sarcasim appiled esp. When he's titan bridging from a safe spot rather then a POS. They can shove their eveeryday CTA bullsshit in their arse.we're nothinng more then. Meatt shields ffor. Solar and their lap dog
Step up and say 'Who will follow me' and let ELO do the same.
I wonder what the results will be…
Elo is solid, but TBH is strongest quality is uniting groups of players at different levels+different languages etc because he is so damned calm.
I loved flying with Elo, but he was definitely not the best FC technically I have flown with, he definitely has great ability but his best as I said was never freaking out and making you feel welcomed and his ability to integrate younger newer guys with older more exp guys, hence why he lead alot during DotBros because IRC guys almost had heart attacks hearing Twinkey rage when we made mistakes
Also he is online like 23/7 thats huge as well. I wish him the best, but we do love to kill him, just like you like to kill any ex-corpmates etc, you love them, but this is Eve.
I do think all these new stratagies he is coming up with are defintly unique, some great some terrible IMO but none the less I love that he doesnt wait for a PL/NCDOT/Rote/RnK etc etc to come out with the new tactics, he tries them himself for good or bad.
Once again demonstrating that NCC have trouble winning fights without PL and Test. PL has been instrumental to almost all of NCC's major victories, including 1V- and C-J.
killboard.solar-fleet.ru/?op=related&n… Solar and pets didn't win the isk war although they did good being outnumbered and PL/Test brought <100 people to this fight. Funny that you complain about PL helping us when you got help from the CFC against us.
Yeah I like that as well they have 5x our numbers.
PL is 1300 guys and they havent used there supers yet so WTF is everyone act like without PL, NCDOT and Nulli would lose. We held off Solar+Goons for an entire month winning almost every single battle.
Guys who always say "You did it cause PL" are you really that scared of them? TBH PL is not the PL of the tourney days. But I guess for alot of guys in AAA they have been kicked out of there homes twice now by PL so I can see how it would form a complex.
Like I said, Solar hired Black Legion who is the same size as NCDOT, Hired ELO, has Black Core, Anomilies, Ethrel dawn, and 10k more meat shields not including AAA which is 3800 more…..Sorry but Solar has the clear advantage, even when PL comes in and helps.
So when you say "You only won cause PL," you are really saying "Im terrified of PL", and even though they usually come later in fights and get the last 1/2 of the battle`s and bring 80-100 guys tops you are so scared of them you need to blame the loss on them, so it makes you look better?
Solar fought the goon pets, goon pets won by bringing more and more entities and bluing up anyone who wants to be a pet.. It was either this or deliver blue balls for both sides.
Then Goon pets hit the forums and whinge about state of eve and lack of 'gudfites' and if anyone does ever fight them they gush about how they are the only place for pvp of eve with their massive meatshield of PVPers and massive super fleet on standby.
Anyone who fights them and wins is some kinda terrible elite PVPer who needs to be blobbed more.
That about it right? LOL
Also -A- is still here and still supporting solar when they need us and we are having allot of fun killing the worst alliances in EVE under our own terms not yours.
You lost all your space from the worst alliances in Eve on your terms?
What Goon Pets are you talking about? You mean the Solar? Because they were the ones who had a shot to end GSF for good back when DOTBROS had them on the ropes, instead they blue`d Goons.
Solar has so many more numbers than NCC its ridiculous add PL and its 1300 more add Test and the numbers are about Even.
And we all know all of HBC isnt fighting you guys most 60% are at there new homes setting up shop.
Its hilarious you guys can hire Merc`s, have 4x as many alliances in your coalition, have 5x our numbers at least and when a PL gang of 80 Comes in its always the reason you lost the fight, but when PL comes in and we lose the fight, we [NCC lost the fight]. Its either or man.
Lastly who are all these worst alliances in Eve?
"Also -A- is still here and still supporting solar" WOLOLOLOL so the alliance that has bitched about the CFC more than anyone else is directly helping a alliance being backed by the CFC now? and i'm not just talking about the gem thing… seems to be no one here is mentioning the goonswarm fleets that have been coming down south to support Solar in the last week or 2? what crap have you been feeding your members now -A- to justify being on the same side in the fight as goonswarm? or have you not been telling them about the goon fleets turning up to defend solar now?
-A- already disbanded their alliance by loosing Delve. The only chance -A- had of survival was to defend Delve.
Yes faggot, PL won the fight for you, simply by assuring that you will be able to deploy caps while SOLAR not. Everyone knows that if Solar brings cap + supers on the field, suddenly you will behave like official HBC members and receive their help. Well, saying "like" is not correct. You are not "like" HBC, you ARE HBC. You just try to pretend you are not
You do realize you moron that NCDOT has the 2nd largest SuperCap fleet in Eve and only by a small margin to PL right? Add Nulli, Gypsy, Whyso and the others and we have enough SC`s to keep Solart in check as it is you moron.
That has been AAA`s and all Solars excuse as to why they wont field there caps or supers….Fact is they dont have the balls to?
Also NCDOT having as many supers as they do have always liked Subcap fights more you tool, you just probably never knew anything prior to reading it here.
PL has always favored SC`s more than NCDOT has despite NCDOT`s massive Supers, sorry but thats fact.
So keep saying your scared of PL supers so you wont field caps but the point is in the fights where PL havent come in on, which has been 50% you still wont bring caps because our own NCDOT supers are enough to roll yours….Unless you brought every single ROL+AAA+Solar+15 Solar Pets SC`s then you would match ours.
So I love how its ok for you to bring enough guys to eclipse NCC but the second we get backup from our only blue PL [HBC as a whole is not blue smart guy] then you whine like a little bitch.
You can use mass amounts but not us or we are talentless….You are lol and retarded.
Well RA down 4 supers now, so u should take 4 SC down from ur mighty supercap fleet..
.. Oh yeah where were u with your super fleet when they were getting killed?.. lol
Man I clone popped trying to get in on those kills tonight — the last one popped before grid loaded for me, so sad. Those 4 supercaps equal about 120b in losses right there.
I think the drone coalition is winning, and honestly, this article seems like major propaganda. This article was posted just as RA was suffering huge cap losses.
I am pretty sure we are still up on supercapital kills and if RA would stop running around alone and losing theirs we wouldn't have any losses. Also what are you talking about this was just posted it was posted on the 14th by a DC member.
Bro you just went full retard.
Did you seriously just gloat about how NC. and PL have the two largest supercap fleets in EVE and then say that AAA and Solar dont have the balls to use their supers against them?
That is like an army tanks camping a bunch of guys with wooden swords into a building and saying "Why won't you come out and fight us you pussies?"
The sheer idiocy within the Goon HBC dick cheese guzzling circle jerk is baffling.
Funny, how I said every excuse ever made by AAA is "WAAHHHH they dont play fair they have way to many supers"
That is literally the reason that guy said they won was because AAA is afraid of using Caps.
I am more anti-Goon than AAA in any way shape or form. I was simply saying that his comment was ridiculous saying we only win because PL`s Super fleet. He apparently didnt know NCDOT`s is almost as large and we could do to you what PL does and drop them everytime it gets bad etc but we prefer smaller subcap fights.
Ink+Whyso+Nulli etc all have way way less than Solar Supers yet they use them vs Solar all the time.
Also you do realise that 80 BS`s beats a SC everytime right? Now that AAA has no home and lives like Nomads[ which is not a nock on them its far best and by far the most fun way to Pew in Eve] Supers now have been relegated to Structure shooting and sometimes killing caps.
But most Times if AAA+Solar brought Carriers or Dreads NCDOT+Nulli would respond with similiar ships and not Gank them with 50 Supers. I cant say that for PL however.
But your last statement about me liking CFC is funny, I think they are ruining the game…..And funny part is you are siding with SOLAR, Solar Blued CFC more times than we have ever blued Test, and hell they even co-ordinated timers so NCDOT/Nulli would have to fight to TZ`s at once, so who is closer to helping Goons out you or us? We fought them, you know fight for there Allies?
If you insist on continuing to post these rants, please learn to write. I'm sure the local community college where you live has remedial English classes.
Not an English class. You want English, here`s a hint don`t read a internet forums or blog, Who is more stupid? The one who cant right well or the one who reads it all and complains time and again. Also you cant cover up having no good points with good English.
Also why dont you make a profile so we can see how popular your posts are? So you can stop posting under 5 names, and being a pussy.
You also realize that in any fight where NC. has been outnumbered in supers they cried until PL miraculously showed up to bail their asses out right?
Fucking knob.
You have no idea what your talking about…Hell in any of the times where we [NCC] was fighting for an IMP-L timer we never called PL.
Infact 90% of the time PL ask`s if they can join in, "what are we gonna say no you cant" especially if we are down supers? You are admitting to blobbing Supers then when we ask friends in all the sudden we are pussies LOL, you are the Knob, Please count NCC numbers its about 6k Tops then count Solars numbers 30k including AAA….Yeah so STFU, for real even if we did batphone PL which we dont, they either come to get kills or we plan ambushes with them WE STILL HAVE THE RIGHT AS YOU HAVE 6x OUR NUMBERS!!! How can you not understand that?
Please name the fights NCDOT has been outnumbered by supers and PL "Bailed us out"?
You said it so prove it.
If I was out numbered in supers I'd call for help. Who doesn't want their super caps, besides Makalu?
Looks like Solar did 'have the balls' to drop their supers on RA just now. Didn't want to help out RA anyway? What happened to ncdot's 'massive supers'?
IDK why every one thinks NCDOT is all cuddly with RA, there goals align for a minute but besides that we really are not good friends at all TBH.
If RA loses Supers, then thats there loss.
Now Nulli, Nexus, Pangu etc thats a diff story altogether.
But you guys are clinging to this RA+NC.=BFF
Fact is RA like most you -A- guys keep saying arent what they used to be at all and really are a husk IMO.
Well it's nice to hear that you don't care if RA loses supers and won't be turning up to help them. From my experience with ncdot this is starting to sound really familiar.
I don't know why they always throw their supers around alone so often
It is so hard to actually get NC.dot to commit to any type of fights with their supers. Several times up north when the CFC was cleaning out Raiden and trying to claim tech in Venal, BL had to pull the trigger with our supers(all 8 of them at the time) with NC.dot sitting on the sidelines cause they lacked any balls to actually use them. They claim super numbers, but if you don't use them, what good are they? They arent' actually a deterrent if you only drop them on random ganks and never commit to fights.
BTW this BntlyHunter guy sounds butthurt as hell. What's his deal?
What are you talking about? "Several times up north when the CFC was cleaning out Raiden and trying to claim tech in Venal" We were putting our supers and titans into fights before you ever started helping us in that fight. Then we lost 3 titans and then titans were nerfed. By the time the second war started CFC had the clear supercapital advantage in every tz.
except au
Then you are hard of hearing. Dont believe media unless you read a email from NCDOT or a speech.
We have and always will say we will blue up when we align with others and not be blue the next day.
Next we have always said Nulli are Bro`s and we would waste our super fleet helping them if it came to that.
Also Guy which block you from? If its AAA you have no room to talk about leaving friends, if its CFC you think you should blue the whole game and win by pure numbers and are leaving Solar to there own Demise now after they helped beat NCDOT/Nulli, and if its HBC, well TBH they have turned on less people than any.
Pretty sure your a Goon, so you use Solar to help kill NCDOT then say after Vale and tribute fall "We arestaying out of Ruski buisness" If thats not the same damned thing IDK what is.
We dont turn on Allies, we just only have few who we really care about and dont have half way friendships like CFC based soley on Money and security for all.
We care for our Bro`s, and we chose Nulli first and foremost, so I will cry and hurt by that but otherwise…Nope.
Also please explain how we could have aided a group who didnt ask us for aid? On the 3 Supers they decided to drop without letting us know they might need backup?
Your a BL dude? You dont think we committed to you guys? You are insane or butthurt yourself. We flew on each others comms like we were in same alliance for along time and its funny how many complements etc you threw our way then.
Sorry dont believe it. It would be easy for me to say, Im a BL guy and NCDOT stole 100 bil Assets from us before we left, still doesnt make it true.
How is saying Elo is a great [But not the best FC in the game] and wishing BL the best ButtHurt?
So, according to you, if I'm not in ncdot or allied to them I'm doing the wrong thing?
What? You play your way we will play ours. We are not disloyal at all, we just dont go around throwing our allegiance out to any side there is and flip flopping all the time when its conveniant.
By temp bluing someone that does not make them an ally.
You are saying by not allying with every single person we fight with we are untrustworthy, thats simply not true.
Guy what alliance are you in?
Oh yeah and the Raiden guys were so pissed about NCDOT`s support 80% of there Supers Joined us…..Fail Troll
Please Guy name one time we said we were gonna help and didnt, or we had clear allies and left them to die and did nothing about it…And not rumors about what you heard show me some facts.
People try to say we left Raiden, well then why did 1/2 of Raiden join us? Do guys you betray and leave to die join you and stick with you? Ankou+Others could have gone back to Raiden now that they are safe in the HBC but they didnt.
So please backup your claims of "From my experience with ncdot this is starting to sound really familiar. " please tell me what exp that is or was.
Also PL did not win the fight for us look at all the Geddon/Cane kills and 80% are from sniper T3 BC`s/Rokh`s by whom other than NCDOT+Nulli when PL came Elo realized it was time to GTFO, thats what most PL help has done, not dogging on them at all but usually by the time they come to fight the fight is mostly decided.
PL does really well at clean up awhere they follow the enemy home and then run them into there stations and camp them knowing they wont field caps because there supers, but thats there style….Its not NCDOT`s
When we fought with DRF it was same thing we could have jumped on the SC rape train but instead we flew Hellcats 90% of the time, when every other Ruski and Raiden guy was using there SC alts as much as possible we just didnt we like Subcaps more.
Supers have been so neutered from what they were that they arent the same power most of you associate them to be anyways, unless in the case of PL you have Tons and use them all the time, simple fact is PL can field them because they can use Test who has Subcaps while they use supers, we on the other hand have what ? Nexus.
So if our 60 Supers came out we would have a 40-50 man Subcap support fleet, sorry but in nowdays Eve Supers are only useful with alot of smaller ships, PL has mastered that with HBC, we havent, we prefer smaller sized/Subcap fights [although we scrap with anything]
Yes we are HBC northern-coalition.co.uk/?a=kill_related&a… northern-coalition.co.uk/?a=kill_related&a… northern-coalition.co.uk/?a=kill_related&a…
Since Coalition members kill one another all the time….Look at our KB faggot, you`ll see 10x more of these fights, every roam we go on we kill Test when we see them just like we would kill AAA
Thats 2 days of fights only, we killed more Test than AAA, so your theories suck balls
You have no idea what your talking about, even numbers NCDOT has beat Elo now alot more than he has beat us.
Also same can be said about Solar, they need AAA who has 3800 member+20k Renters/Peeps that fight for them and they hired a FC. PL is only 1300 people as well as NCDOT, so you make no sense what so ever.
Who really is fighting there own battles? NCC or Solar?
Looking for info on a "mom" in double tap- fuck you tok haha
Need more info on a double tap "Mom" in null-gotcha tok haha
"the Scalding Pass region continues to succumb to Red Alliance and NCC (Neo Curse Coalition) and HBC onslaught"
fixed that for you/
The BR posted is really in accurate tbh, the isk war was a lot closer than what eve kill suggests… Much closer!
Another article from an arm-chair warrior / would-be general expecting the enemy to cyno into their optimals, preferably already deep in structure with their guns offline with 2 or 3 to 1 odds in their favor.
Try objective reporting sometime – I'll wager you find it far more informative. Otherwise the useless text wall rates right up there with the stuff falling out the back of a horse. Reporter or fan-boy… the choice is yours.
Sorry you hated it. Oh wait, not really. (1) I don't quite see what you are extrapolating from in your first paragraph. Nowhere in this article did I say I wanted them handed to me on a platter; I was simply going off what limited information I had available to me (2) Your 2nd paragraph is even more histrionic and indicative of what little rationality you possess. I never claimed to be objective, I only claimed to provide a grunt's ground level perspective. I listened to comms, I pressed F1, and pewed. This BR wasn't claiming to be a treatise on the subject, I just shared my perspective, which is inherently and unapologetically subjective (3) This is a battle report, based on a singular (my) perspective, and that is acknowledged in the editor-created title. How would you propose I increase the objectivity, pray tell? I included what was, at the time, the most up to date eve-kill BR. Given EVE's nature as a game, how would I gain perspective? Participate on the other side? Stick around and interview the enemy combatants? The only way to achieve objectivity is through the opposing side presenting their perspective and then balancing the two. So, if you desire "objectivity" provide your own BR. If not, please refrain from your neckbearded mouth-breathing around my submission.
"the grunts sat on a titan waiting “for their enemies to do something stupid”" Yeah – of course they will wait for an opportunity.
"(or Elo’s balls were growing uncomfortable blue)" Because he won't drop vs a larger force with very little chance of a favorable outcome?
Brought more guys. Managed a win. GJ
I find it hilarious that people now think of -A-, Solar, and their pets as somehow the last bastion of independence in EvE. Are people completely ignoring the fact that Solar made some agreement with Goons to attack Dotbros from the rear not 2 months ago? Does nobody remember that N3 probably hates -A- more than anyone else and that HBC declared a holy war against -A- nearly 3 months ago?
Sorry mate, just because two people are shooting you doesn't mean they're allied. You may simply be completely deserving of being shot at. Had Solar and -A- decided to fight alongside the Dotbros, I guarantee the political map in EvE would look very different.
This is easy to say and I feel for Nulli, but NC dot has done mothing to make any friends within the DC, At best theyve interfered and killed us at any available point, Word on the street is NC dot is a deal breaker group, so you tell me, How long will they be bros with the current group?
You do not understand!!! Nobody good wants to be part of your blobs!!!! NCdot dunked every Solar/Goon fleet, 150,000 people blob for months, was hilarious and awesome.
Word on what street?
We work with Gypsys just fine, we work with Nexus just fine, we just dont like huge blocks like you guys do apparently. Thats your choice.
But im sorry if you ally with someone you dont like [NCDOT], to kill a major threat in the future in CFC and decide not to and leave your allies IRC defenseless, your southern Allies AAA to constantly moving north to fight while there enemy digs further in and each month brings out 1k-2k more pilots to fill catch, you are a selfish alliance/coalition who could have saved your allies….You didnt.
If Solar was so great to work for Elo wouldnt have to be paid to do it.
You are not allowed to rewrite history to suit your narrative. The SOLAR NC. war started when NC. and goons were still the bestest of buddies. It was NC. who opened a 2nd front and NC. who suffered for being unable to secure a truce with SOLAR. "Sorry mate, just because two people are shooting you doesn't mean they're allied." However, when they show up on critical timers, only shoot your enemies, and give you the stations they accidentally take then by most common definitions it means you've allied. That's fine, allies are nice, but just cut with the bullshit that not attacking the CFC is some sort of mortal sin.
As for the -A- hate you'll have to forgive me, I was unaware that Imperial Legion were hiding Makulu in their stations.
-A- showed up to defend your timers so yes you were infact hiding Makalu. On the other side of your argument Solar started that war why should we stop fighting them after they aided Goonswarm in fighting us? Not our fault you didn't secure a truce with us. Gypsy called a truce with us to shoot Goons and Mactep didn't take too kindly to that. Also "However, when they show up on critical timers, only shoot your enemies" sounds exactly like what Solar and CFC did in Geminate.
Nc. Opened a second from. Solar forces really are disallusional. Mactep is a greedy cunt. He smelt tech in gem when dotbros were fighting cfc blob. So instead of accept an offer of devising the space that could of been takn from cfc of solar had joined the fight against the scourge, they decided to open a 2nd front in geminate, worked with cfc on the battlefield in geminate… And you know what happens now as was predicted and foreseen. Irc become not a place for gfs as has been the case in the past, they are now cfc new blob playground. & as was predicted cfc have already become bored with their napfest and have already made moves on solar pets assets. The future will bring cfc opening a front against solar out of boredom… Concluding macteps stupidity of failing the grasp the opportunities he had to put an end to the abomination that is cfc will finally meet its maker. GG Mactep father of retards
Mactep instead of owning shitty Drone lands and losing them once CFC expands, could have had 150 Tec Moons split right down the middle with a fat Nip pact where we could kill each others ships as much as we wanted and the North would be a fun place for many groups not 1 blue sea. Instead he chose the pussy safe route got 15-20 Tec moons and didnt fight the hard fight…..Even if HBC came for them and taken Drones space they would have Branch etc right by IRC and move renters to Geminate+ Vale etc
He could have had half or more of Tec land. Instead he moves GSF right next to IRC then deploys south to let them die once CFC recoups from the fighting and waits till Solar is weak enough to attack safely, then HBC and CFC will control 80% and Drone regions will go back to Xdeath just like Mittens promised.
Not just not attacking , allying with.
Also there was a pact in the north we didnt come for CFC we came for PL. You attacked PL moons thats how it started……NOT CFC NOT HBC but PL MOONS OUR ALLIES.
You realize if we didnt go help more guys would cry about us not helping PL and how we are not good allies.
And it wasnt just sorry 2 guys shooting you douche they were in constant comms and came in T3`s+Drakes in co-ordinated efforts and diff TZ timers.
Like I said 100x you carebears wont understand but we dont like 20k allies, we never got in the game to build Empires that got fat and lazy. When we meet and fight with guys like PL/Nulli/BL etc and like them we become great friends and share everything we have. BL was on our comms more than there own, Nulli was also, we had a falling out with BL but that was personal drama more akin to a guy and girl got in a fight so the girls boyfriend took his guys and left.
Breaking up the DotBros was dumb but definitely not 1 sided. So this whole. NCdot started a war with Solar is crap, you hit our close allies moons and we defended.
Point I take from this poorly constructed heap of posting is that NC. is allied with PL, and therefore HBC. Now, before CntyHunter gets his shit-stained panties in a bunch about how NC isn't allied with HBC b/c they're only buddies with PL, consider this: An alliance with the master is de facto an alliance with the servant. Now, that doesn't preclude NC shooting the unwashed masses, but it does mean that if NC receives help from PL to bail their sorry ass out of trouble, Test/Tribe/Raiden/Init will come following, dutifully following dear leader.
Fine you get help from Solar Block which is equally as big numbers wise as HBC or close to it. So know that its basically even numbers according to you what are you bitching about then?
Everytime Solar block gets in trouble they use AAA, everytime AAA gets in trouble or Ethral dawn they use Solar so whats your point?
Also Solar who`m you are allied with has a lose alliance same as us with Red and a few others where there interests merge and have fought us together on multiple occasions, so does that make you a GSF pet as well?
So PL bridging Nulli fleets out, and more recently yesterday PL providing cyno for a Nulli JF… yeah I'm sure this is just "oh we're not allies, we're just friends." Nothing going on.
We are Allies WTF you talking about. I have only ever said PL is our Bro`s. Show me where I said we wernt buddies with PL, hell I said we protected there moons.
We are not however blue with the rest of HBC, and IMO and most level headed people dont count PL as the head of HBC, most would say test is.
Either way AAA+Solars entire Block has way more numbers than the little amount of HBC help we have recieved. And this whole "You cant win without PL" can be said for all of Solar and Co including AAA, AAA cant do shit without Solar and Solar needs AAA, So really whats your point?
Not to forget solar and aaa threatened to evict INK and annouced war on INK and WHYSO..
I ll copy past this again so ppl know his is biased, it s based on a fraking BR sent by a grunt!
"This report was written based on the perspective of a DC grunt. If you were part of this engagement and want to share, comment, or correct this report, please feel free to send an email or express your –angry- self below."
Oh the joy of anonymous commenting!
Seth
They didn't want that station anyways!
2013 will see HBC vs CFC, there are some on both side looking forward to this war
I really do hope it happens.
I pray it happens.
Yes , this must happen
Never will they and why should they…good fights arent 1000-2000 ppl fights, its a hell of lag and would take ages and noone would field supers. So, where should the point in doing this… it sounds more like a excuse for the bored members and ppl that didnt think this blue 0.0 will work!!!
It's funny how Solar fans here want to rewrite the history into "SOLAR was never in bed with CFC". Because anyone who was there can tell you that Solar and CFC coordinated their moves together, they divided Dotbros space between them, and they fought the same battles together.
Here's one example of Solar+CFC vs. Dotbros: www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14577...
Everytime an idiot calls a NCDOT/Nulli guy a Goon Pet needs to read up, and remember a little war that took over all Eve`s News for what? 3.5 months? Um yeah we are Goon pets as much as you are HBC pets.
By your logic that we are GSF pets you are HBC pets because your side aided GSF against the indy DOTBROS and in doing so turned the war which in turn made the HBC more solidified and furthering the invaders of your space`s agenda.
So if we are GSF pets you are HBC, we both fought our masters, we both lost our space and we both sided at one time with our masters Buddies…..If we are pets so are you.
Makes 0 sense. Pets dont try to kill there masters.
Whyso Tengu fleet and several dozens ships from Gorgon Empire, Unthinkables, and Gypsy Band. Several Tier 3 BC fleets
???????????????? really???? who do you work for, i mean really a whyso fleet ???????? try INK with some others, cause whyso barely gets 10 into any cta………………….yeah try lead by, as per usual Unthinkables with the rest filling in, then say NC./Nulli Fleet and the the awesomely derped -RA- scorpion fleet which mostly doed on bridge in
cool story… nice tears…
INK is terrible. Be glad they mentioned you.
More tears lol.
Lol , 0.0 is lost , since dominion its going downhill overthere , have fun w8 at titans all day and press f1 when ya lucky.
Looks like 3 Evoke and Ex Evoke corps have joined the Ranks of Nulli and NC. now, nice to see tbh maybe more are going to join?
HBC vs CFC? Wishful thinking,. Why screw up the massive RMT thats going on in the great blue sea? Only CCP can change this and not happening anytime soon, CCP Soundwave will see to that.
Evidence? Not calling you full of shit. But at this point ur a monkey slinging poo.
Touché ofc cfc/HBC are some of the biggest botters/ rmt around. This is common knowledge, but yes hard proof is another thing completely. Lets just say that if CCP investigated the biggest napfests blue blobs in eve they would find more botters/rmt than anywhere else in eve. They all go to the blobs where they are somewhat safe. It's not like CCP does anything to harm goons. The whole game in 0.0 is moulded for the majority of Benifits for goons, hence countless occasions where CCP will not even look into any exploits of to Change the game unless goons cry. It's rediculoius!
I agree not just on the RMT side for HBC they dont make enough, but CFC clears 250 Tech moons a day plus each corp gets some of the best regions of ratting space where hostiles never go. Look on the map where they rat in Dek and Branch and look how many jumps it takes to get far back up there.
There ratters alonemake there ship replace possible so where does all the 250*12 bil a month go? Sov Bills? LOLOL
Sorry but they have had 250 moons for 3 years now, and now 290-300 thats damned near 70% of games wealth off moons.
What do they give away free Titans? Im sure they do in game as long as you gift them 800$ in paypal
The rest of the ISK goes to keeping the rest of Eve on there Titty, feeding the little baby goons so they are addicted to mama mittens
I dont agree with him at all but they did lose there home in catch, again. And this time its looking very grim about getting it back simply due to numbers.
Everyone before who mapped A has tried to have there own land and keep the vast AAA area, HBC is smart and offering free land for allegiance, and turning anyone who has felt slighted by AAA at the same time.
SAo its not like you will be fighting with Stainwagon vs Init, you will now be fighting the HBC as a whole just trying to get anything back, and there is still SOOOOO many systems they can give away to displaced Allies I wouldnt be suprised if they double in numbers, and then like Tribute for us once its gone, since SOV mechanics blow the Defender with more members wins everytime.
I think you guys will end up moving to the spire or somewhere in Drone regions TBH because your typical, ruski defense of letting the enemy massive Sov bills and infrastructure then waiting for the true fighters like PL to leave is not how it is anymore, PL is there to stay, Test+ there 20k guys as well, and if you mess with one Testicle you mess with all the balls.
Eventually it will be dronelands for income or you will bleed troops so fast you will have 0 chance of taking stuff back, sorry to say, as much as I disagree with AAA I hate CFC and I would be sad if AAA died completely as I grew up in eve as them being a powerhouse, but if GSF died, sorry but I`d jump for joy. The Old Goons are now basically PL.
the Drone dudes were slightly outnumbered but got thoroughly decimated.
They did manage to take out half a tengu fleet in the process though.
Drone dudes lost the strategic objective very badly and went home with whatever tackle and a logis they had left.
Solar fleet also lost almost half their lokis
Drone dudes just as u said were outnumbered but kick those tengus, nagas, oracles and some other sh.. in thair balls man. And there weren't 600 people, there was 990 people in local cuz' I was in that fight and just from the ED was 200 brave pilots who kicked everything in our way. We ate enemies when we arrived till the PL and TEST guys haven't arrived when we got huge outnumbered and was forced to retreat.
It was a glorious fight and tnx everyone for a good fight!
To all the gays saying because we like PL we are HBC
Yes we are HBC northern-coalition.co.uk/?a=kill_related&a… northern-coalition.co.uk/?a=kill_related&a… northern-coalition.co.uk/?a=kill_related&a…
Since Coalition members kill one another all the time
And more
eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=15…
Chill with the homophobia, dawg.
Lol sorry my bad, Meant no disrespect to real gays.
Hey look Nulli is part of HBC to now its official…..
eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=15…
As a DC grunt, I had a great time! Had to manage cap a bit, but was eating Tengus like crazy!
Yeah, poor INK got to whelp Tengus while NC./Nulli kited, and Test/PL came in to save them all.
Seems like Gypsy pets get to play meat shield (in Tengus?) for NC./Nulli who are just Test/PL's cannon fodder!
Ended up with 17 Tengu kills, some RA Scorps, some Nagas and Sabres and more! And my Geddon lived to fight another day!
Bring on the tasty Tengus! Now with less DPS!
There wasnt any WHYSO fleet on field. There was gypsy T3 fleet with INK and WHYSO in fleet..
Sry mixed it in other dayz fleet.. Eh
But still it wasnt WHYSO fleet.. If WHYSO in system doesnt make it WHYSO fleet..
(50 / 15.2 %) Gypsy Band
(48 / 14.6 %) The Unthinkables
(28 / 8.5 %) WHY so Seri0Us
kb.neocurseco.info/battle/r87306/
IMP-L no longer has any stations in Scalding Pass. They have never been able to get more then 10 people in a fleet. Mactep has called them 'shit' on comms during a Solar Fleet alliance meeting. Now that they have lost everything, its time for Solar and pets to finally let them die.
As for the idiots whining that 'NCC' can't do anything without either Test or PL being on the field…… The solar pets can't do anything without either Solar Fleet, Solar Wing, Black Legion OR -A- being there to hold their hands. During the Russian 'prime time' though is the only time the Solar pets can get Solar Fleet and Solar Wing support. During the 'western' timezones, they can get -A- and Black Legion support. Interesting that -A- could only give support once they lost their space. So seriously guys, STOP the FUCKING whining that 'NCC' needs PL all the time. IF Solar pets were effective, then Mactep would not have needed to hire Elo.
Having fought with and against both Solar and NC. They both are good at PVP. How ever, the downside to Solar is Mactep….. all his scheming could be the end of Solar. Instead of learning diplomacy, he's been trying to carve out his little empire by trying to act like some Russian Czar.
Solar Pets though, should maybe learn, cheering because you destroy a handful of tengus, all while you are losing the war, doesn't mean you know how to pvp. What are you going to do if Shadow of xDeathx wants their old systems back?