Shit hit the fan this morning in the J115405 wormhole. Here is the lowdown.
On the one side No Holes Barred, AHARM, W-SPACE and on the other Hard Knocks, SSC, VoC and Lead Farmers. I’m not too privvy to the reason why this all started off, but it involved some smack talk from hard knocks to w-space I believe. Regardless, it started off with w-space and No-Ho gaining entry to Hard Knocks home system, and we were going to kick them out. We had about 6 dreads and 3 carriers. We went about reinforcing their POS’s and then trying to maintain hole control [I wasn't there for this part of the fight]. They outnumbered us in the US timezone and re-gained hole control and got some friends in. They also reinforced our staging towers.
During the day of 01/12, the No-Ho/w-space forces regained hole control and set about bringing in more dreads, more bodies and more everything basically. It was at this point that I became involved. We maintained hole control but a VoC cov ops kept making it through into the static and we started to get very jumpy about them getting in and piloting the stack of dreads that Hard Knocks had lying around. We tried to close him out whilst we thought he was polarised, but he made it back. The decision was made to “crit” [I say "crit" because the hole was only stage 2, but the moros coming back would have killed it] the hole, with me in a moros on the static side waiting for the VoC cov ops to jump and then I would jump back closing the hole. He grew smart to this [he obviously checked the mass on a fresh hole and saw it reduced and knew what we had done, don't bet on stupid in this case!] and so we were now in a situation where they couldn’t get people in but we couldn’t bring our orca’s that were packed full with goodies in either. This continued for several hours. However, we decided that to try to even things up we needed some help, conveniently AHARM had connected directly from Nova into Polaris and we had a heavy high. A bunch of AHARM pilots came to join us in mostly T3′s. We also made the decision to just use normal indy’s to haul stuff through the chain so we could get much needed stront for our dread/carrier pilots.
At this point there was a LOT of waiting. Luckily our fleet numbers stayed high at around 100. Hard Knocks first tower came out of reinforced at 0025 and we went to kill it. With our fleet of 6 dread, 3 carriers, 5 bhaalgorns and assorted T3′s and logi on field the tower went down smoothly. no-ho.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5265 However, scouts reported their dreads forming up in one of their towers and then that they were gaining speed. In our direction. All 18 of them. We got off field back to our staging pos quickly after the tower went down.
If we were going to have any success now, we knew it depended on tactics. They now had approximately the same number as us, but a massive capital advantage. We tried trapping them in their POS using HICS, but we didn’t have enough HICS and they got out. At this point they regained hole control and this is when all of their friends joined in. The fight went from a 100 vs 100 with bhaals/sub cap advantage on our side and cap advantage on their side, to a 100 vs 150 fight with them having some 30 lokis for webbing targets for their dreads with superior carrier numbers and the sheer numbers advantage [don't read this as a complaint, we afterall had bat phoned AHARM to try to get the advantage].
A fair amount of cat and mouse ensued, with our scouts trying to get us good warp-ins. Eventually, they had setup with their entire fleet on their static with HICS in line with our staging POS. We got a great warp in which put us some 300km off to the side and we warped in to face them head on. We were balls deep at this point anyway and we were going to show them that Norcorp has turned Exceed and everyone else on our side into wikings.
The fight started off relatively evenly, however, as we started to lose bhaalgorns [we lost 8 in total] and lose dreads our dps became anemic and we stood no chance of taking down their caps. We started in on their sub-caps but their triage reps were excellent. We’d taken the fight, but they soundly won it. A LOT of gf’s were shared in local. The irony being that even though this fight had started because of smack talk, it ended rather cordially. Hard Knocks et al gave us a truce and helped scan a way out for us to escape. It was a huge fight [for w-space anyway] and one which was enjoyed by everyone. If anyone is bored of simply being an F1 man, then come to w-space where actions really do have a consequence.
I would be very interested in hearing the story from the Hard Knocks side, please feel free to edit for clarity as you see fit. If you can get BR doctor or your own system to fix this I would also be very grateful.
Second Battle Report
This is probably one of the more massive capital fights that has occurred in w-space yet in the game with almost… holy spaghetti monster between 40-50 capitals. excluding Hard knocks (residents) those caps all had to be brought in 3 at a time by chain rolling whs or via k-space routes. But yeah, good sh-t. glad to have been their and survived. This really was one of those I was there moments. For the people who spent hundreds of hours chain rolling it was one of those “I was there… and my girlfriend was somewhere else” moments, thank you for your sacrifice.
So this fight has been dubbed by many “natwo vs. w-arsaw” by some, I’m not very familiar with the structure of wh politics but atm it appears to be thus: Aharn, Noho, and russians vs… the rest. SSC recently entered into some sort of unholy alliance (much better name than natwo btw) where in we agree to prevent people we like to fight with from losing their space and thus deprive us of fleet fights… even if it’s hard knocks (jk). FYI, smack-talking aharm (or anyone) in local is still derptarded. Thats right, this whole shenanigans started because an unnamed German from HK was smack-talking in local… WHAT, you say,hard knocks smack talking??? LIES!!!! they are such upstanding and polite citizens of our little universe. not that i’m complaining. This collection is almost exactly the same size as the anti AAA op from when they smack-talked on forums and got summarily evicted from w-space, but with a crease in the fold of w-space pitting 1/2 of that fleet against the other.
anyways back to the original rant. basically what happened is reinforcements were still trickling in when aharm scouted our fleet, received reinforcements from NOHO and decided it was worth the risk to engage. But when I said trickle… it was really a Niagara Falls size trickle with I think between 20-50 pilots arriving in the nullsec entrance minutes before w-arsaw started landing on grid at 350KM and then re-warping at 0.
follow up on the WH battle. the transcript which started it all:
Channel ID: ((‘solarsystemid2′, 31002360),)
Channel Name: Local
Session started: 2012.11.04 08:00:11
[ 2012.11.04 08:04:19 ] EVE System > Subspace communication beacon unreachable. Channel list unavailable.
[ 2012.11.04 08:06:35 ] Sorany > wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle YEA!
[ 2012.11.04 08:07:39 ] Sorany > USA #1
[ 2012.11.04 08:08:43 ] Sorany > more manticores please….
[ 2012.11.04 08:10:36 ] Sorany > Здравствуйте, я пришел с миром.
[ 2012.11.04 08:11:28 ] Sorany > Кроме того, ваша мама количество шлюха в весь Казахстан
[ 2012.11.04 08:12:06 ] Sorany > тыквы специи для всех!
[ 2012.11.04 08:13:20 ] Sorany > США № 1
[ 2012.11.04 08:14:52 ] Sorany > тяжелые удары, лучшие удары
[ 2012.11.04 08:15:55 ] Sorany > это время, чтобы человек до вас Россия тигров
[ 2012.11.04 08:16:48 ] Sorany > деформацию всей Мороз
[ 2012.11.04 08:17:08 ] EVE System > Subspace communication beacon unreachable. Channel list unavailable.
[ 2012.11.04 08:18:06 ] Sorany > Вы могли бы также сделать снимок
[ 2012.11.04 08:20:18 ] Sorany > В один один
[ 2012.11.04 08:21:09 ] Sorany > Я самый честный человек в моей стране
[ 2012.11.04 08:21:59 ] Sorany > Когда же русские стали такими большими девочками?
[ 2012.11.04 08:24:15 ] Sorany > Я собираюсь купить тебе помаду, и кошелек вы большая девочка
[ 2012.11.04 08:25:55 ] Sorany > самоубийстве все туши
[ 2012.11.04 08:26:24 ] Sorany > почему ты не хочешь со мной разговаривать?
[ 2012.11.04 08:26:54 ] Sorany > Я очень одинока
[ 2012.11.04 08:28:02 ] Sorany > Текущий план: родила нас до смерти
[ 2012.11.04 08:28:42 ] Sorany > стрелять мне, что ты киска
[ 2012.11.04 08:29:13 ] Sorany > Я устал говоря, это луна говорить на языке
[ 2012.11.04 08:30:14 ] EVE System > Subspace communication beacon unreachable. Channel list unavailable.
[ 2012.11.04 08:31:27 ] EVE System > Subspace communication beacon unreachable. Channel list unavailable.
[ 2012.11.04 08:36:05 ] EVE System > Subspace communication beacon unreachable. Channel list unavailable.
[ 2012.11.04 08:38:53 ] Sorany > Лезвие звездное настолько сильным,
[ 2012.11.04 08:40:32 ] EVE System > Subspace communication beacon unreachable. Channel list unavailable.
[ 2012.11.04 08:41:27 ] Sorany > так плохо
[ 2012.11.04 08:41:38 ] EVE System > Subspace communication beacon unreachable. Channel list unavailable.
then this mail to ceo:
Sent: 2012.11.04 16:36
To: MisterAl tt1,
Completely normal, yes.
From: MisterAl tt1
Sent: 2012.11.04 10:38
As you are listed as the diplomatic contact, I have to ask if shittalking in local considered normal in your corporation? The reason of hte question is:
[08:11:29] Sorany > Кроме того, ваша мама количество шлюха в весь Казахстан
which is translated as:
Also, your mother a whore in all of Kazakhstan
[08:06:35] Sorany > wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle YEA!
[08:07:39] Sorany > USA #1
[08:08:43] Sorany > more manticores please….
[08:10:37] Sorany > Здравствуйте, я пришел с миром.
[08:11:29] Sorany > Кроме того, ваша мама количество шлюха в весь Казахстан
[08:12:07] Sorany > тыквы специи для всех!
[08:13:21] Sorany > США № 1
[08:14:52] Sorany > тяжелые удары, лучшие удары
[08:15:55] Sorany > это время, чтобы человек до вас Россия тигров
[08:16:48] Sorany > деформацию всей Мороз
[08:17:03] Система EVE > Коммуникационный маяк подпространства не доступен. Список каналов не доступен.
[08:18:06] Sorany > Вы могли бы также сделать снимок
[08:20:18] Sorany > В один один
[08:21:10] Sorany > Я самый честный человек в моей стране
[08:21:59] Sorany > Когда же русские стали такими большими девочками?
[08:24:15] Sorany > Я собираюсь купить тебе помаду, и кошелек вы большая девочка
[08:25:55] Sorany > самоубийстве все туши
[08:26:24] Sorany > почему ты не хочешь со мной разговаривать?
[08:26:54] Sorany > Я очень одинока
[08:28:02] Sorany > Текущий план: родила нас до смерти
[08:28:42] Sorany > стрелять мне, что ты киска
[08:29:13] Sorany > Я устал говоря, это луна говорить на языке
[08:41:28] Sorany > так плохо
This last one contains a small BR in it.
Finally here is a link to a really cool gallery I was sent via dropbox. [ LINK ]