Right on the heels of their recent Alliance meeting where leadership confirmed blue standings with Test and the HBC, The Jagged Alliance is evacuating Impass. Many of us here knew that this was coming and sat in disbelief as we listened to the leadership of TJA attempted to control the damage of the imminent reset. Below is a mail sent out to the TJA Alliance:
Major Evacuation
From: Crazy Canuck41
Date:2012-11-12 06:10:00Hello,
This may or may not come as a surprise but we have been reset by Test. We are currently evacuating all assets from Impass to Stain. Once we are in Stain, we will decide the course of action from there.
The station we are using is ZG8Q. It is one carrier jump from 4OIV
I doubt this comes to a surprise to anyone as we have seen a huge exodus of corporations from TJA following the ejection from HBC controlled regions.
*Update*
Here are some HBC Jabber pings which some of you will find interesting:
(8:11:41 PM) pleaseignore.com:
Friends! The Jagged Alliance is reset and should be considered neutral/hostile.All HBC alliances should adjust standings. They opened a conversation with me today initiated by saying
(9:31:28 PM) pathetiq: hello sir
(9:31:51 PM) montolio: hi
(9:32:49 PM) pathetiq: I want to give Impass back to you and leave and close down the allianceAfter this they argued with me about how they should be let back into the HBC and it is my fault they are shit.
This is a pet alliance and TEST doesn’t keep pets, we put them down.
In closing I leave you with a quote from the TJA executor:
(9:40:30 PM) pathetiq: thanks for putting up with me sir
(9:40:32 PM) pathetiq: 0/#### SENT BY Montolio to All online hbc @ 2012-11-12 04:11:40 EVE Time ####
prefer that be used ^Second broadcast:
(8:17:00 PM) pleaseignore.com:
(11:06:06 PM) montolio: yeah well starting the conversation with “we quit” is not a good way to get back in
(11:06:10 PM) pathetiq: its the confidnce that is required
(11:06:53 PM) montolio: quitting does not inspire confidence
(11:07:17 PM) pathetiq: sopmetime when u see u are litterlly screwed
(11:07:46 PM) montolio: Alright m8
(11:08:21 PM) pathetiq: I know I’m bothering u, Im sorry
(11:08:42 PM) montolio: You guys are reset, good luck.He used literally wrong, I had to make it right.
#### SENT BY Montolio to All online hbc @ 2012-11-12 04:16:59 EVE Time ####
-Exversion
Who is TJA?
Faggots who rmt awox and can't fight without the entire HBC behind them
I do hope TJA remains alive and rebuilds. Many times mine and their paths have crossed over the years and they always seemed like a nice bunch, but when you let RMT go on at an alliance leadership level you risk losing all that you have built including the respect in other entities. If the XFile guy is actually the ill-famed puppetmaster/horus/whatever else, the TJA leadership should've known better and deserve everything that's now happening. I really hope this fucker gets permanently nailed sometime in the future (I'm not being naive – he'll probably be back, since it's not exactly th first time he'd have been caught).
Well…there goes TJA then…
He is.
And yes, he will find another group to infiltrate soon.
Actually, he's still in HBC, with other alts. As soon as he'll try his usual power escalade again, it'll be evident who he is.
PathetiQ did a great job choosing his name after all
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1211/TJAaa.png
nuff said
Shit outta luck for all the IMP-L corps that joined TJA. The three at are still there are near 1/4 of the membership. Out of the pot and into the fire, eh boys?
Hell, if you didnt see this coming, you're either blind or stupid.
HBC rules:
Do what we say= Bro, member, friend
If you step out of line= Pet, foreigner, enemy
And they wonder why we call them Southern Goons
Strategy seems to be working. The amazing part is that other alliances refuse to join together to stop them. As long as CFC/HBC keep their enemies divided they'll be able to do pretty much whatever they want. Maybe someday everyone else will figure out what's going on before it's too late and we'll have a real server war.
In the mean time, I'm going to go play Firefall.
Quit more quitter!
My only hope is that once the war with Solar is over Test/Pl will grow a pair and join us in a crusade against Goonswarm. We had upwards of 1200 people today in C-J. Goons would have no chance whatsoever.
No one saw this coming like 2 weeks ago
those of us who stayed knew it was a risk. you gamble, you may lose. a bunch of good guys make up the corps though. i'm sure they'll make great additions to whoever picks them up
what gamble? You kidding? it was clear from the moment we were out of the HBC that it was coming. Thats why the smart folks left before this
wait and see if those who waited to the end don't end up with a better deal…
Don't hold your breath. TJA was offering all kinds of inane things to recruit my friends corp. It's not hard to see through to their true nature. They were desperate for bodies, and would do or say anything. They also didn't have standings set with the rest of the HBC prior to their removal. (They had LI3, who lived in a nearby constellation set -10) So keep following them, but I'll only wager that things get worse before they get any better.
another "double standard" set by test.
they complained about recruiting methods, but if you look at TRIBE or Unclaimed, they have the same type of recruitment standards, anything with a heartbeat.
also they knew from day 1 they were dealing with one the biggest bot dudes in game and they still offered him space.
The difference between TRIBE and TJA is that we in TRIBE have unified leadership and changed how we recruit members and corps. We WANT to get better and ARE WORKING hard at it. You have to remember, TJA has been around for awhile. TRIBE's only been around for 4 months. When there's an issue with the coalition, we deal with it swiftly and the HBC knows that. TJA couldn't even get it together on the most basic level. Their leadership had no clue what everybody else was doing including their leader.
Look at us! Look at us! We are better pets! We serve our masters more swiftly and more obediently!
So you're comparing who's been fucked over better when Tribe has yet to be fucked over…. fail much? lol
"changed how we recruit members and corps. We WANT to get better and ARE WORKING hard at it."
Translation: GOD NO TEST, PLS DON'T RESET US!!!! WE WILL TAKE THAT COCK MEAT SANDWICH!
Tribe is now the biggest bunch of useless bears in the game at present. The only thing keeping you alive – Monti hasn't found renters for your space. Tribe has followed the exact upward arc of TJA and will follow the same path down.
Funny thing. lately, my NPC Alts can't fly through any of the hubs without being hounded by HBC pet recruiters. Including Tribe. They are like squeegee guys at a red light.
This I can agree with.
I don't see Tribe contributing to much of anything the HBC does. I contribute most of their numbers to carebears who have a safe haven for ratting in Period Basis due to the sea of blue on all sides. They also recruit just about any corp no matter what the member count.
In other words, they come off as more of a Renter Alliance than anything else.
There goes all my positive points.
Even a renter alliance wouldn't recruit like that, since presumably they'd want some sort of identity and would like to avoid failcascading when they have to move somewhere else.
Tribal band is now at 4500 members. Wow.
The fact you feel compelled to even post this ….speaks volumes.
Man, wake up. Horus has a botting operation in your own alliance. I wouldn't be surprised if you guys were the next one to be 'reset for cultural reasons'
Montolio: TJA you need to gimme MORE SOV GRINDING!!!
PathetiQ: FUCK THAT! Ma niggas are DONE!
Montolio: Ahhh, Uhhh… but…
PathetiQ: You can have your -A- contaminated SHITTY IMPASS back!
Montolio: Shadooooo, what should I doooo?
Shadoo: First, get down and….
*2min Later*
Shadoo: Okay, now! Kick those Niggas! We have Now NC. working for us!!! We will use those Niggas now!!!
Montolio: yeeeasss *wishes away some white stuff from his lips*
Montolio: Friends! The Jagged Alliance is reset ….
Shadoo: Goood JOB, now come here again…
I lold! +10
Fanfiction at its finest O.o
So very true
hilarious! I know we are once again licking Goon-Goo.
This is hot
+1
You're hired. I want entire articles like this on EN24.
The only entity in eve that would welcome TJA at this point would be the solar bloc, mayb u guys should contact them.
Yo bro we love you!…….you can be blue if you grind Impass cos you got a RMT dude in your alliance.
But bro, we don't want to grind Impass! …..you are now red Amigo, fuck ya'll, TEST out!
TEST allies, best allies!
Regardless of who or what Jagged Alliance was or did this is just the start of how Test will run things. They were part of the test coalition and Test accepted them as pets then reset them and threw them under the bus
No Evac, no warning to their membership, take a bad alliance and kill it. Next they will strip any members and feed them to their other pets in the area.
I don't remember -A- ever treating anyone like this regardless of how bad they were made sure we gave 24 hours to members and respected alliances as entities in their own right.
'This is a pet alliance and TEST doesn’t keep pets'
Sorry but all your little alliance friends are pets, if you/they wish to deny this please live in denial. They can stay in denial as they all scramble over each other to show they are loyal and should not be the next one thrown under the retard bus.
This is just southern goonies and their pets.
Sorry .. saying this is demeaning to a real alliance called goonswarm, sorry guys, at least they are a real sovereign independent alliance with a half useful coalition.
Oh look, -A- lecturing the rest of us on how to treat our allies.
Yup, They know how to treat allies, they've got so much of them after all…
Yup I'm sure solar will keep them around after helping with CJ6 oh wait….
I've actually sat on the sidelines long enough. I wanted to stay neutral but this was kind of irritating.
I was a part of Imperial 0rder when we were in Omist. I was there when the Alliance itself was disbanded. I was there when -A- said they would assist with evac of the displaced corporations. I was also there when -A- shot at every single corporation that refused to join up with -A-.
You say you don't remember -A- ever treating anyone like this. Look back 1 year. No Evac no warning? How bout saying 1 thing and doing another.
No Sir -A- FC, you have absolutely no room to talk on these matters.
*edit:
-A-'s excuse at the time when approached about shooting the displaced corporations was "A sleeper disbanded Imperial 0rder so every corp was a target".
You sat on the sidelines? ..you posted an article here several days ago…. Stop being a disingenuous douche.
No, I sit on the sidelines when it comes to most opinions. I dislike -A- from my experiences in omist, but I didn't allow that dislike to cloud what I posted. I didn't allow that dislike to change my views or sway my opinion one way or another. Hell, I have even praised and given constructive criticism.
But when a -A- FC (new or old) spouts something false or simply "ignorant" that relates to me directly, then I have a strong need to state my "opinion".
My articles will continue to be unbias and neutral. My comments, however, may not be. Especially if I have to read some self righteous ignorant dribble I did a few minutes ago.
Again, I am not so much a battlereport editor. I am more of a political editor. If -A- has political intel they want the masses to know, then by all means, send me intel using the link above.
I was in I0 as well. I was there when Hawkcrest from Black Aces (then in -A-) helped us to evac to LGK. -A- set individual I0 corps to Blue so we could live in Stain with them. From my personal experience, they were nothing but helpful. Perhaps you were in one of the douche-bag corps that supported Puppetmaster. If that was the case, then yes, I expect you did not get blue standing with -A-.
You didn't read what I wrote in depth did you?
Those corps that decided to stay with -A- were spared from their guns. Those corps who decided to leave nullsec and move north were targeted. Since your corp was one of the ones that was sticking around with -A-, you were spared. This is after -A- had ensured safe evac for corps returning to high sec.
It doesn't bother me -A- did this. It's part of the game. But when a -A- FC comes on here and starts saying some pretty ignorant things, then he either #1 Doesn't remember I0 #2 Came in after the I0 debacle or #3 Didn't want to bring it up.
Posting two articles is hardly sitting on the sidelines.
Everything you've written to date is an opinion and in most instances, ill informed opinions. It's obvious how you lean as it relates to -A-. that you attempt to pawn it off as "neutral" or simply informational is disingenuous. There will be few buyers of the horseshit your currently selling.
I remember sitting in fleet with our I0 bros getting ready to bridge to a fight when the sov was pulled-was a WTF moment. Those corps that fucked I0 or bailed in terror…..there wasn't a lot of time to sort who did what. Did you expect us to give Puppetmaster a fucking escort to Jita. Lines were drawn, corps made their decisions and shouldn't bitch about the consequences.
I can confirm that -A- arranged blue for our corps from Fail when they were bailing from Detorid, the ones that left. We were given blue standing for a week to evac our shit. We evacuated lots of stuff thanks to BOPE. using their JBs and stations for the evac trains and even cynos a few times. In that regard I cannot fault -A- with anything. What happened to your corp I don't know, but from the other posts that I saw it seems you were in one of the corps that supported A PUPPETMASTER back in IO. Only retards get in league with him, I had hoped people had learned their lessons. Now with TJA it seems like that's not the case.
I must comment on your comment Exversion. I was a member of U’K when all that went down with -A- in Omist. And from what I remeber is -A- LAUGHING at us when we asked for assistance. From an Ex-U’K member -A- has it’s list of allies in that when we don’t feel like helping you FUCK YOU. -A- has backstabbed Ushra when they were “allies” not only once, not only twice, but 3 times. Oh and did I mention -A- asking REAL MONEY for holding Sov?
hey numpty you paid rent to WN and got killed for it dont blame -a- for shoting the enemies renters
Hey Mr Numpty, I was also there when IO fell apart by the hands of no other than APuppetmaster.
I don't know where you getting your information but we were never engaged at any point -A- did help us out of the mess we was in to the point that when catch fell to the DRF, We joined them in Stain and fought back.
My advise to you, is that is your opinion only, as a former IO member I completely disagree with your noobish stupidity.
Oh I failed to mention, that most if not all of IO were friends with -A- either in Checkmate or Endless Destruction.
Evac warning was irrelevant. Every TJA CEO with half a brain ordered his members to start moving assets out of Impass as soon as it became clear that XFile666 was allowing former -A- renters to stay and handing the strategically important systems over to TROLL.
they were told a week ago that they should move their shit
they were told a week ago that they should move their shit TO IMPASS
Let that be a lesson to all of you HBC members (no of course you are not pets nor renters, who would dare to say that). How long does TEST still need you? The clock is ticking for you all
HBC attracts those that seek the path of least resistance. Quanity over quality only works for so long. I anticipate this story that's repeated many times within HBC. Thanks for the warm bodies to fill fleets, now that there's money to be made, GTFO.
I do find it amusing with all the smack in local from TJA while fighting us, they fall back to Stain….
How…unimaginative.
If i was a so-called ally to Test, I'd watch out… They've got plans for you.
I for one am very surprised at these turn of events.
Pets see the bus lined up with them, engine roaring….. Who would have thought they would have been run over….
-A- giving advice tho, now thats priceless….
The butthurt about TRIBE in here is awesome.
I am personally going to encourage all tribe corps to continue recruiting newbs everywhere in highsec, but specifically in mission hubs.
Below is a mail sent out to the TJA Alliance:
I can tell you are wrong because of how stpiud you are. You should have used they’re instead of there in your sentence. You just watch when the Cards win their 12th ring in 2012. Oh and by the way, 11 rings is the 2nd most in MLB so you should probably change your statement to Cardinals are going to perform consistent as usual.