Analysis courtesy of Blaster Worm, diplo of Gypsy Band, so take it with a grain of salt.
Eastern Front Update – AAA Redeploys
After a series of obvious victories for the Neo-Curse Coalition (NCC), things have been quiet the last few days in the Eastern Front. Previously SOLAR FLEET and Imperial Legion used a well-known tactic – they placed their own Sovereignty Blockade Units at their systems under siege. For those who are not aware of this, the invading force then has to kill the SBU, then online their own and only after that attack the system (otherwise the owner of SBU comes and offlines his SBU, thus the system is saved for yet another few hours). So this makes a regular CTA turn into a 5h one, SOLAR & Friends are doing this in hopes that the barbaric NPC-station dwellers will not have the stamina to deal with it in the long term. Nevertheless, without much resistance on the 15th October a key system was invaded, “the gates to C-J6MT”, 1V-LI2. Afterwards, Q-GQHN, the last system that had been attacked by SOLAR was defended in Wicked Creek. This means that NCC now has the full momentum to move on towards other SOLAR systems.
Later the AAA alliance meeting was released with which came the official news that AAA are interested in moving to fight in this war. This did not come as a surprise as it was previously known that AAA had chosen the SOLAR side in this conflict, but the good news were spoiled with bad ones – Pandemic Legion will go after AAA and will continue shooting them at all possible timers.
I will comment the current situation from my point of view. This is a very unpleasant development of the conflict for those who hoped for it to be beautiful good-fights in RU-TZ. Fights with even numbers, in sub-caps, without titan-blobs etc. We (NCC) managed to show strength and the ability to lead this war with confidence and, more importantly, win it against such an experienced opponent as SOLAR who have many sov-warfare tricks up their sleeves and they are not afraid to make the grind so much more painful. We never had huge ambitions to make SOLAR sov-less, this was a war for two regions and C-J6MT (this system is the ‘home’ of Red Alliance, thus the importance).
When AAA comes with their problems and politics in this conflict and ruins our little sandbox castles, this makes this front fighting grounds for mega-coalitions for influence in the galaxy. Blobs, tons of supercaps – all the annoying stuff of this broken game. And I will say it right now, if AAA thinks that this will be a walk in the park then they are wrong, even without Pandemics the NCC would have something to show and surprise them.
For now the NCC has taken pause to really grasp with the situation. There are many possibilities on how to deal with this and every option has to be considered. Currently there is not a single consensus in the coalition and not even our alliance. So for now, we have internal discussions and are taking a small break with the offensive.
-Blaster Worm
Today, 18/10/2012, there is a high chance of engagement between both sides as many CTA fleets have been announced - lets see how this conflict develops.
PL really has an unhealthy oppression with -A-
And I fucking love PL for it
we should not speak to much about this 40 pilots they dont deserve such attention, its test who give them existence, without test pl would be insignificant.
Badass FC's my man, that's what they bring.
That and a great number of SC and Titans…
me too
Probably because all what -A- say about them is true
They smell a wounded animal. They pursue in search of the coup des gras!
Like the last 4 years…….
coup de grâce.
Nope, its not. its coup des gras what i wanted to say.
If you dont know what it means, thats a whole different deal. If you do, then learn sarcasm level 2 to understand what i said.
We get it now. But when you need to explain you're doing it wrong Sheldon.
Maybe you should stay away from this whole sarcasm thing.
You sir deserve a medal! Im talking for real on this one, no sarcasm.
By far the best comeback to this whole "coup des gras" that everyone else were sure i meant coup de grâce! Prolly none of 'em are french..
Nah Pl killed Atlas, IT/Bob and the NC and everymajor enemy its had except AAA who BTW talk so much trash about Pl leaving as them running when in reality Pl thought Init could do the rest and made money elsewhere.
It's "coupe de grace". And I don't think they're looking to give a quick mercy kill to a "dying" -A-.
like the buddy below, you havent a clue of what i was saying it seems. But you dont actually know how to spell coup de grâce!
I actually meant strike of the fat… coup des gras! (sarcasm?)
You frequently have the same problem in the real world don't you?
No, because i dont surround myself with neither a) smartasses who think they are right and everyone else wrong b) plain idiots.
You sir got no clue what sarcasm is.
I miss-typed "e" into "coup" but was too lazy to fix it.
Don't post man. If we're too dumb to understand you, don't bother explaining. Thanks in advance. "My greatness was never understood by the lesser minds"…he thought to himself, petting his cute little ego in the dark of his parent's basement"
You're not too dumb nor am i smarter. You just have egos so huge that you believe you're right and everyone else wrong.
I do have a cute ego, but it aint little. Also left parent's house long ago. I own a house the size of my ego, pool included. Cheers!
can my sister marry you?
Technically she can as im still single. But im emotionally unavailable for further commitments!
Is not a oppression, is the race to get even more blues, atm have few
They generate the most tears, the most forum porn, and get the maddest when they lose to us.
Killing TEST is fun too because they're generally pretty bad, but it loses its charm after a while when they just GF in local and then undock in another rifter. Why do that forever when you can pick on -A-, who instead runs tryhard shield roams around because thats what pro pvpers do and gets ultra buttmad when they die and look like retards.
It's even worse when they die to TEST, which makes it all the more fun to utilize TEST as a blunt instrument to beat the -A- pinyata, and why would you ever stop beating while candy is still pouring out?
Say what you want about us, move where you want to get away from us, convince yourselves we don't matter. We'll follow you until your crying, tryhard, pubbie ass is either dead or we are, or until there's ~anything~ in the game more rewarding then killing you.
Fuck you, -A-.
PL isn't important anymore at all who cares if they follow. Blah blah. 0 fucks given.
What i dont get is NCC being worried of -A- joining. -A- is only deploying Russians as they have almost no fights vs TESTPL and are looking for some fights. They only number at most a 100 pilots.
Maybe its because they are angry that they got BL angry and they left?
PS. I called it that PL would leave TEST out to dry. In a week time PL will move to curse for "GF and test can do it alone". 2 weeks later Test will cascade and be no more.
AAA really is in no position to hurt or help anyone, they are pinned at best, trapped at worst.
Besides Busa and my Buddy Mukk who is awesome no matter what anyone says, AAA is not up to the task of helping Solar at all now in any TZ.
I think I feel the Hull Minors union Reloaded coming on and rejoining NCDOT
why shouldnt -A- help? They have nothing to do. And the more enemies to fight, the better for -A-. If plest is following , let them i like it to kill as much pl as possible and guess all -A- like them on their killboard. Yap Mukk rocks.
They have nothing to do? Hmm, supporting allies woulda been something to do. Bit late for that now.
Still, let em come.
What is the hull miners union
Yeah I have no idea. They don't even come up on dotlan.
L2 use DOTLAN
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/The_Hull_Miners_Un…
If you dont know you probably didnt PVP along time ingame.
They were a great group of guys, who were great PVPers as a whole.
"Maybe its because they are angry that they got BL angry and they left?"
I'm confused who you are are referring to since NCC had almost no relations with Black Legion. maybe my reading comprehension is bad or you are confusing Nc. with NCC
BL. No but NC. Yes.
Not what I was asking, to me the it seems like he thinks Nc. and NCC are the same entitites
"2 weeks later Test will cascade and be no more."
Your fucking stupid.
Agreed, absolutely zero comprehension here.
You are.
We are in this til they die. The poor cockroach has long been overdue for the final stepping. Where they go..we go.
to bad your a sucker fish.IT ALLIANCE KICKED YOU FROM FOUNTAIN.AND YOU WILL NOT FIGHT WITHOUT YOUR MASTER TEST ZOMBIES BEHIND YOU.YOUR NOT TOUGH.YOU ARE FAIL.TELL SHADOO I AM COMING TO KILL HIM AND YOU WILL NEVER LIVE IN PEACE.
OL AND SUCKER FISH HERE IS WHAT YOU ARE.
The relationship between a remora and its perfect host is most often taken to be one of commensalism, specifically phoresy. The host to which it attaches for transport gains nothing from the relationship, but also loses little. The remora benefits by using the host as transport and protection, and also feeds on materials dropped by the host. Controversy surrounds whether a remora's diet is primarily leftover fragments, or the feces of the host.
I agree that PL are douchebags, but dude…. you mad?
"Where they go..we go."
A chained dog barks louder than his chain rattles. Aren't you forgetting something, pet?
of course .. what else should this 50 men do, i mean no enemies left ingame poor pl faggs
Where they touch you? Here's a doll and you can show it to us.
Then we can all laugh about it. And wiggle our eyebrows too
BTW, what's up with everyone speculating about war between Goons and TESTicles? I mean…to me it looks like goons gave birth to an even greater tard, the tard being TEST sometime in 2010, or so…And now you expect TEST to turn on Goons? Because Shadoo's magic eyebrows can somehow hypnotize them in doing that?
Or it's more likely they cover each other, unlike other entities in eve have before?
Nah..
sado and his 50 pussies can go and be forgotten, they deserve it .. hate it that everyone speaks of this faggs
TL;DR: Gypsy Band's diplomat believes he is a grill chef, says others will bring the meat, and spills weak sauce!
Who took a piss in PL cereal today…. owait -A- did lol
go back home kido … and do not go in a dark room with shadoo even if he says, that he wants to teach you close range pvp
Wasnt Blaster Worm in AAA at some point bitching about INIT betrayal?
2ish years ago
It's simple really.
I mean, besides the PL obsession with destroying -A- (-A- must have touch them somewhere for sure, someone should give them a doll and ask them to point where). The only other long term goal that PL has is take down Goons. And I believe they do plan to do this, sooner or later. But to do that they have to have TEST as the subcap meatshield. However TEST is not yet ready to burn it's bridges to Goons, so PL needs more time to swing them over completely to their side and cut the umbilical cord. And until then they need a goal to keep their members busy (idle hands and all that). Destroying -A- is what they're planning to use to keep their members logging in. They've tried twice already to failcascade -A- and it didn't work. I think that stings them. They are pissed ad -A- for surviving their 'attention' twice already. But all of that is still subordinated to the final goal. To fuck Goons over. Who lives will see I guess. But one thing I do believe. That despite everything -A- will survive.I might be wrong, but if anyone can survive such a treatment from PL it's -A-.
Why do you think their long term goal is to destroy Goonswarm?
Last I heard the master plan was to cooperate to take all of Eve 0.0. Then start a mega war the likes have never been seen. 100's of SC and Titans fielded. Then leave the game.
I'm really interested in the "PL turning TEST against GOONS" part of your statement. I will say, that a fight between the HBC and the CFC would be of the most epic proportions, due to the sheer number of pilots that would be involved. Endless clashes of 1000 v 1000, with PL supercap wildcards being thrown in, vs Goon numbers and seemingly endless RMT resources.
The fun part would be the third party parts of the fighting that would join the fray. There are plenty of DOTbros, NCC, and possibly other coalitions who would love to kill BOTH birds with many, sharp, explosive stones, while watching them murder each other. I wouldn't be surprised to see fights of over 2000 in local at once, three headed fights at least. The thought of the carnage gets my eve-blood flowing…
Rumor has it that PL are waiting on CCP to make 2000 people in local without 10 percent tidi possible before they invade Goonswarm.
Half of PLs leadership was banned for RMT. But you're right, it's the evil goons who are the real culprits!
Goons home region has more bots in it then any other region in null according to CCP.
15:05 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG13u9KKtzE
You just gave me an erection.
-a- is like cockroach and PL is like a nuke. Nuke kills all except cockroach.
So who is the shoe here? Fez would love this analogy
(that 70's show) 
the shoe was destroyed by the nuke sry bro
Who.
Its not hard, PL has destroyed everyone they ever fought basically. BOB, ATLAS,NC
-A- survived them by hibernating for 3 months, Its PL`s only "Unfinished buisness"
Although since GSF was such "Good buddies to RZR and NC" maybe they will be next….One can dream Us Dot`ers and PL will again wipe out the new evil NC mk 2
I assure you no one would come on GSF`s side except Pets…..Hell even S2N who were beaten by HBC would blue them to kill Goons, they are the biggest cancer Eve has faced IMO.
And NCDOT being a 3rd Party is funny, we started the fight with the Giant, if anything HBC would be helping us, not the other way around……Props to GSF propaganda guys you failed by trying to act like Tri is falling apart again……We took HW back without Elo or BL and have almost 2x in numbers at max peak form up because NCC/Gypsy
Yeah PL plowed through goonswarm on the "headshot VFK" campaign, yet another enemy to fall under their impressive fleets.
Oh, wait. Does that mean Goonswarm is better than "everyone else"?
And they really save DRF from SOLAR!!!!
Dont forget GSF pawns or "CFC members" Like FA/FCON/GENTS/SMA/etc. I would love to have a major HBC and DOTbros vs. CFC war.
Pretty sure HBC would smoke goons
That would be amazing.
Gimme some of what ur smokin…
nice, at the end somebody repeals the "we are always outnumbered" propaganda blah blah.
and gratz for H-W. hope it was not to hard to flip back a station with holding sov in that system.
Pretty sure goons had the all mighty PL supercap fleet rapecaged in one system for over a week, then PL retreated
their entire super fleet
The whole reason HBC exists and has PL as its leader is because, in Jan/Feb, -A- consistently dumpstered PL fleets in taking RA's space. This forced PL to realize their style of play was no longer relevant (elite 100/150 man fleets owning people) in null-sec.
Hence the Mega-Blob and their obesession with -A-
Well nc. Seem to be able to still win outnumbered fights against the blob that is goons. So it's a matter of perspective. PL need meat shield, nc. Have a band of brothers fighting the Hun.
the only thing NC. is currently managing is to set the RF timers near AUTZ where they have more members online than the CFC. blobbing for the win.
Some fights is not all fights…Otherwise they wouldn't be losing space…
Actually it was nc. AND PL against -A-. They were both hired. It was mostly nc. who did the grinding of the south. Must have hurt for them to see that what had taken their supers a month to grind -A- took back in less than 2 weeks. They would drop 50+ supers into the fights only to kill 2-3 tengus (yes bombers killed more ofc), and -A- could just ref the stuff without really caring about the enemy supers on field
then when the frontline was moved so far north- east that it was within solar jump range, they peed their pants a bit. They couldn't risk having their super fleet tackled by 500 tengus and having RA as the only subcap support, lol
The only one who did some dumpstering last Jan/Feb was solar. -A- was at the brink of completly losing Omist and tenerfis untill Solar got their act together and gave Red Alliance and XiX a run for their money.
No. RA ran out of isk. They had been dependant on farming it from bots or just no life ratters, and -A- kept roaming their ratting system 23/7 until they stopped logging in. Then -A- began a blitzkrieg style invasion taking one or 2 systems pers region and using a titan highway to get to RAs important systems and hit them in the gut
also they did completely lose those regions
I dont think you understand the relationship between Goons and Test. I highly doublt that what your are saying will happen. the only thing i could see would be a re-set of standings for roaming territory. actualy the CFC and the HBC have already reset standing but not goons and Test
Pandemic Legion will go after AAA and will continue shooting them at all possible timers.
PL WILL NOT COME TO FIGHT UNLESS TEST ZOMBIES ARE BEHIND THEM. AAA HAS DESTROYED PL.
AND IT ALLIANCE HAS DESTROYED PL. SO PL DON'T TALK SHIT UNTIL YOU HAVE BALLS TO FIGHT ON YOUR OWN. AND SHADOO YOUR NEXT TO DIE.I AM HUNTING YOU BITCH.SHADOO IS THE BIGGEST SUCKER FISH.
A sucker fish is
The relationship between a remora and its perfect host is most often taken to be one of commercialism, specifically phoresy. The host to which it attaches for transport gains nothing from the relationship, but also loses little. The remora benefits by using the host as transport and protection, and also feeds on materials dropped by the host. Controversy surrounds whether a remora's diet is primarily leftover fragments, or the feces of the host.
fucking kill CFC already, stop beeing such wankers
*disclaimer* I was in -A- but left them for nulli because I didn't enjoy -A-
If -A- is truly shit like the claims you make then whats with the unhealthy butt hurt chasing them around the galaxy? Is it possible you chase them because they are one of the only alliances that can give a decent fight?
I actually did the same thing. WAY to much politics in -A-. To many bureaucrats. To much nonsense. Nulli has the right of it, same as NCDot (now, at least). Space is for suckers. I have to admit, as much as I loathe the CFC, and the HBC in turn, they (HBC) have a good point. Space communism…of course, it always looks so much better on paper…
If Nulli says space is for suckers, then why are they taking sov in Detorid?
because running missions in venal sucks? LOLOOL
They are being chased because of the fountain of tears, soundcloud recordings and forum porn they produce.
you can join the HBC, problem solved
Boring… I quit playing Eve when I realized the majority of future fighting in the game would be mashing keys in a drake. Snorrrrrrring. Oh look… PL is currently fighting ~AAA~ in drakes….. how exciting! Must be learning something from their Testicle overlords. Whats Raiden and Init. up to? Farming iskies like usual?
Your name fits you.
they are farming isk realllllllly hard,
Great thing about this game is you do not have to be involved with that style of game play if you don`t like it.
poor abused PL, guess Shadoo is still mad about getting deported for looking like a candy van pedophile upon his attempted entry in to soviet russia, and he is now bussy giving candy out to test asking them come in the van….
"Redeploys" – AKA Runs away like a bitch…
Who the fuck are you?
to bad your a sucker fish.IT ALLIANCE KICKED YOU FROM FOUNTAIN.AND YOU WILL NOT FIGHT WITHOUT YOUR MASTER TEST ZOMBIES BEHIND YOU.YOUR NOT TOUGH.YOU ARE FAIL.TELL SHADOO I AM COMING TO KILL HIM AND YOU WILL NEVER LIVE IN PEACE.
OL AND SUCKER FISH HERE IS WHAT YOU ARE.
The relationship between a remora and its perfect host is most often taken to be one of commensalism, specifically phoresy. The host to which it attaches for transport gains nothing from the relationship, but also loses little. The remora benefits by using the host as transport and protection, and also feeds on materials dropped by the host. Controversy surrounds whether a remora's diet is primarily leftover fragments, or the feces of the host.
Why would you post such a horrible comment twice…
This comment right here ^^ is the reason I log in and shoot AAA structures.. no worse, sit in a scimitar, no even worse serve as ANCHOR for the scimitars that rep the drakes that do structure bashes on AAA structures.
All because of ALL CAPITAL LETTERS TELL SHADOO I FUCKING HATE HIM AND I'M GOING TO FIND HIM AT FANFEST AND I'VE GOT THE ENTIRE MARINE CORE ARSENAL
You know what would be funny? If PL interferes with good fights (like they always do), why don't they all shoot up PL whenever they show up on the grid? Might give them a bit of a reality check
LOOKS LIKE TEST GOT A ASS WHIPPING.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/LGK-VP/kills
Bad move, -A-, bad move. One step closer becoming a goon pet. Didn't you know that Mactep's mouth is placed firmly on the scrotum of the CFC?
Hahahah This i would like to see!!!
it doesn't matter brolo. This is not the same war. Maybe gypse propaganda says solar are goon pets, but I think they're still -5
this is not american politics with only two sides, lol
Ok…so if HBC deploys to chase AAA they help NC.
That means they are giving more sov to grind to goons…and i imagine taht at this point goons dont want more sov to grind.
or is it PL only going to the solar war?
This is how ww3 sparks of ..
its NCC not northern coaltion
Yeah new little bloc, which is the neo curse coalition I believe.
Someone explain to my political noobness why -A- is helping SOLAR?
Better fights, less blobs. Everyone else seems to be doing fine or is fighting -A- already.
I got you, so solar is being outnumbered then and they want gfs right? not trying to troll, just understand the politics here, just that *i thought* solar is siding with goons, and I didnt think -A- would be helping them. but who the fuck knows anymore
The enemy of your enemy can be just another enemy and sometimes your choice is to choose the lesser of two evils.
Internal politics of the drf and caused the war to break out. RA choose xdeaths side and x death hired pl when they stared losing to solar. Solar was losing really bad by being out blobed and pl drop supers almost aways. So solar call people who could help and disliked pl, ra, xdeath add additional irrelevant alliances here. AAA and Rol came to help eventually Solar won the war with this assistance. Btw nc. At the time Northern Coalition. was best buds with pl and was dropping supers on Solar all the time. This might explain some of the reason solar is attacking NC. In gem because that when solar lost their assets in Gem.
Well, the thing is, the fact that SOLAR is fighting NC. is not so much due to them siding with goons, but more with the way russians roll. There are two things that characterize russians more then anything else (in EVE, but one could say also outside the game). First is loyalty. Loyalty is considered one of, if not the highest value among russian pilots. It takes an extreme ammount of hardship for russians to turn against their own (within a corp) or against allies during a fight. And indeed this has happened extremely rarely. Of course, you have infighting within their ranks, and between russian alliances. However such breaks usually happen not during times of crisis and because of internal and not external pressure. Second is holding a grudge. Russians are really good at holding a grudge. After you've treated them wrong once, it's extremely difficult to regain their trust. And if they do cooperate again with you they'll be extremely careful. This dates back to the start of EVE when russians were looked down on by everyone else in game, basically because of racism. They were the pariah of EVE, the scapegoat for any kind of accusation, from botting to RMTing and so on (now we know that in fact in the period of maximum russian expansion and strength, during the DRF age, the highest concentration of bots was not in any of the russian regions, but in Deklein). That's the reason why russians usually roll with their own, and when they do cooperate with non russian entities they usually are not fully integrated. Of course, the fact that the percentage of russians that speak english is relatively low is also a factor in this. Taking this into consideration it's not really difficult to understand why SOLAR is fighting NCdot. It's not so much that they have allied with Goons. It's more that they hold a grudge against NC because of everything that happened in the last year. And differently from other alliances in EVE, which can go from enemies to best buddies in a blink of an eye (and then to enemies in the next blink), russians are always very cautious. And if you fuck them over you can be sure they'll remember it. The whole story about SOLAR allying with Goons was essentially born on EN24 and kugu by people who don't really have much understanding of inter russian politics and the way they roll.
With regards to -A-, you have to understand how -A- works on the inside. Everyone in EVE is talking about 'SOCO this, SOCO that'. SOCO never existed. It's a fabrication of EN24 and kugu, or to be more precise a propaganda spin. The name SOCO was first mentioned by Mittens in his 'going south' speech, as a way to present a coherent enemy to galvanize his troops for the fight. TEST and PL noticed right away the propaganda potential of this and started to use it. The reason for this is simple. It essentially gave them a way to present their enemy as a big entity to fight, and in such a way rationalize the fact that they were essentially rolling over an enemy 2-3 times smaller then them. The propaganda was so successful that even some of the satellite southern alliances started to believe it. In realitiy SOCO as a coalition never existed. It did not have the infrastructure or logistics of a coalition, it had no coalition level fleet formats and so on. What the southern alliances did have was essentially a loose confederation. Their way of rolling was that they are neutral during times of relative peace to pew each other and get together to fight the common enemy during a crisis. However this structure was very loose and never really formalized. It was called 'the way things are down here in the south' (really, that's how most of them actually called it, they never had a name for it). It stemmed from the high degree of independence that each of the southern alliances boasted, something that they considered as a very important. -A- in that regard was somewhat of an informal leader of this group, because of it's size and combat potential. However that's as far as it went with regards to integration. You can easily see this in the -A- alliance meetings that are floating around the web, not only the recent ones, but also the ones predating the current war. -A- itself only ever had 2 permanent allies, En Garde (their training-sister alliance) and ROL. ROL unfortunately lost internal cohesion when they started to accept english speaking corps in greater numbers, which led to the situation that happened recently with some english corps switching sides and dropping sov for the invader (you can be sure that the russians, all of them not only in -A- and ROL, will remember this). However the ROL core that's left is still a steadfast ally of -A- and rolling with them, in what is essentially a display of the way russians work internally. -A- itself, while being born as a russian entity, is maybe the most 'international' of the russian alliances. One could even go and say that it's not really a russian alliance any more (I disagree with that because their top leadership is still russian and the way they work internally is still congruent with the russian method). In any case, they've managed to maintain their internal culture and integrate the newly arrived corps into it, the culture being fierce independence and a focus on PVP. They are also maybe the alliance most resistant to failcascade as far as EVE goes, having been invaded and pushed into Stain several times. First time it happened it almost broke -A- apart with lots of drama, since they were not used to it, however they've managed to survive it and actually transform it into part of their internal culture.
Very good analysis.
Thanks for all the insight. Lots of stuff I did not know. oh and I lived in russia at one point for a few months with a relative so I understand the loyalty and "russian way" somewhat as you mention. still though, wish we'd all just fight goons and unblue 0.0 already
wait a minute u didn't mention the FAIL, thats their other long term ally is it not? ( or used to be? )
Because SOLAR turned back on their russian "friends" (the then-called-DRF, mostly RA and xxdeathxx), earlier this year, and ran to ROL and AAA for help against them. Allied, they made two of the biggest enemies AAA had at that moment (previously mentioned) disappear (RA had to move to queerious, xxdeathxx to venal). Besides, AAA really doesn't have any allies left after leaving Nulli/RA/VCruz/ROL/FAIL to die.
Stop drinking the kool aid!
none of the alliance you listed were ever their Allies, except ROL. But it must be true if evenews24 said it right? right..
I don't believe in a AAA Deployment until I see 100 A-Pilots before me.
They are more a "fleet in being" ally nowadays.
Headshot!
https://a-killed.me/?a=kill_related&kll_id=84…
There's almost 3x what you asked for buddy
response to an -A- super 'tackled' during -A- alliance meeting. You won't see this kind of fleet size from -A- much.
good lucking finding 100 -a- willing to undock even if they deploy.
-A- abandoned its ally again tonite…..what a suprise. 100 Nagas held up by the usual harassment tactics. Only this time I hear it wasnt a million rifters, but a small gang. Surely this cant be true.
The NCC barely works because of the language/timer issues, showing just how bad the rest of them are. And Red Alliance, omg, seriously, this campaign isnt about you. Never was and never will be.
It all stems from a few small alliances looking for good fights, and alot of bandwagon.
And the darwin award goes to……
Serious dude, get your facts straight
Really, ask Solar what started it all. Ask Cascade and -A-., even PL. The only common alliances mentioned by all 4 will be the ones based out of UM-SCG/GRHS.
Its something called a 'catalyst' – look it up sometime.
Strategic objectives have altered since the beginning. RA wanting back some old space, well sure why not. GFs to be had and a solid goal, it doesnt alter the fact that this isnt what started it all or why it will continue.
PL bastards suck and an honest word, what do they want to do without the help of test .. pl does only work as plest .. (pl +test = plest) . There are like 50 pl left, they cant do shit without their meatshield.
uuuhhh badnews .. 50 pilots commin, but i guess only with test they can be someone in the game .. poor bastards .. once elite pvp now .. ridiculous losers, who think they are still 1337 elite pvpers lol
Your anger is fucking with your thoughts, be realistic and admit that they essentially control 25% of sov space. They are doing alright…
they .. you mean the 50 men .. na they do nothin, as soon as test is in the situation to field their own fcs, pl will get what they deserve, they will be irrelevant
I think you're wrong.
I love the way goons (psst – you're all goons until you start killing those even goonier than yourselves) spins a story – I swear you'd think they were all heroic trying to 'retake their home system' oh my goodness whatever shall I do… wherever shall I go.
Frankly I don't give a #!@)( and neither does anyone NOT blue to you (or 80% of those who are). No matter what you're all from the same bag, the same cloth and I can't wait until you're at eachother's throats. Am I mad? Bro – I'm not mad I'm thrilled and makin the popcorn.
On with the show…
No, You mad brah. I can tell. You mad. And helpless.
well, too bad to hear this, as an -A- guy i have tons of respect for Gypsy Band, and kind of middling on SOLAR…
Same here.
1) For all the help we gave SOLAR to push out RA and XdeathX and help gets SOLAR their space, I've yet to see a SINGLE Solar ship in the same system as me in the many months of conflict against TEST/CFC/PL blobs.
2) SOLAR has been working with CFC against NC. In fact thats one of the primary reasons Gypsie is pushing this war on SOLAR. SOLAR got greedy and wants to keep the status of the current big three powers holding most of 0.0 (solar, goons and test). So what do we do? We defend SOLAR for working with CFC.
3) I too have a ton of respect for Gypsie and their old bros Blaster.
Just glad I get to stay home and shoot TEST. Russians going east is a waste of time and wrong decision in my opinion.
-a- is patently useless and their "deployment" will likely consist of bringing about 50 guys to fleet. maybe 100 guys if they're lucky
120 tengus + loggies will show you, what such a little fleet can do hero
Looking forward to the largest fleet ever in one system. The NCC is indeed a powerful bloc of folks, while they can't boast contestable space, the certainly have the numbers and the size to be considered a Bloc.
With HBC and SOCO + NCC. Would be interesting to see if and how the North could be involved in this as well, it is quite possible to see a very large fight between many affiliations.
SOCO vs HBC+CFC vs NCC + NC.
That would be a hella good fight. Circle Thanksgiving weekend on your calenders kids, theres going to be a dust up in the heart of the Drone Lands, and it would appear as if everyone is invited.
magic 8 ball battle report says HBC+CFC+NCC+NC, eliminate SOCO, then turn on each other.
Compare the member numbers, -A- vs. PL:
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Against_ALL_Au… http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Pandemic_Legio…
Since October has -A- gained a few members and PL is losing some. No cascade, no fail, but perhaps a small shift on each side depending on sympathies.
The gypsy worm has gone full retard and made an attempt at propaganda, but it is a terribly weak sauce. He forgets PL is chained to TEST and would have to stop hiding behind their zergs and abandon them. Alone the statement of EVE being a "broken game" needs a life support system on its own, that's how weak it is. Yet, it attracts commentators to do the same, to go full retard, and the little warning at the top ("take it with a grain of salt") goes unnoticed.
*facepalm*
Gypsy Band tours all over the EVE map, doesn't have a home and now gives an update on the eastern quadrant of New Eden.
They had a few memorable bombing runs in the past and probably because they are hardly associated to anyone. Their presence at the Alliance Tournament X is also best remembered by their funny advert, not so much by the fact that they barely got past the qualifying round.
And now do they give updates on the big alliances of EVE! And they have got a diplomat – a gypsy diplomat who is probably lying his arse off like any good gypsy.
What astounds me is the number of people who take this update for real and it ends up being all about -A- and PL.
i think it would be intresting -A- and solar working together against PL
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man ..pl does not exist anymore .. they are a shadow of their past greatness. The work of pl nowadays is to be kindergartener for test. pl with their 50 men cant do no shit on their own anymore, they are impotent like a 100 years old fag.
Thats why they transformed to plest (pl + test = plest). Both sides need each other, test cant do shit without pl on the field and pl cant do shit with their 50 lavatory attendants, hence they are doomed to stay together.
Poor pl pilots, who are pvpers have to stay in one of the biggest blue napfest in eve history… so much blue for a normal pvper is like a curse… dont think, that the average joe in pl is happy with this "all are blue to us" situation
-A- leadership are just so hypocritical http://www.evenews24.com/2012/10/15/battle-report… oh noes! Solar definitely need -A-'s assistance in these totally even 1 to 1 fights because they're just so unfair! -A- coming in for "good fights"? i always thought -A- big stand point were "we're against blobbing!" the amount of propaganda crap that comes out of -A- leadership is beyond me against blobbing but it's okay as long as you're the ones doing the blobbing lol…
Because they are short sighted and not really the "PVP only" "SMaller neumbered" ALli they want us to think they are.
They should be helping Gypsy if they were really for GF`s and PVP instead they pick a side they think cant lose…..Unfortunately fir them it will be there last…..PL is coming, and once -A- helps solar it will be NCDOT vs -A- an solar, then we can see who really is PVPers who are small in numbers but login only to PVP…..AAA talked a huge game about being blobbed, but by joining Solar they are now blobbers themselves
God help em, they gonna get eaten up, they bragged about being number 1 on KB`s, but fact is NCDOT and BL were behind by like 500 kills and that doesnt count ISK lost just kill amounts, so while they killin TEST frigate gangs, we are killing 3:1 T3 BC gangs or Rohk gangs.
Also they have 380 we have 1600 and we still had most kills or solo players 2 out of 3 months…..-A- really brings abandoning friends to a whole new meaning then sayin "we owe no one anything"…..LOL withut ROL+Stainwagaon you are dead in 2009
You mad
Is it me, or is -A- just saying, "If you want our Sov that bad, please, by all means take it, in the mean time we'll go play elsewhere until you get bored"
I don't know whether its smart, arrogant, or just weathering the storm…
It's about right I'd say.
You let the enemy throw punches at you, but evade them. You do not run into their attacks head first, but you gather intel about their strength, fleets and movements. Once you have a full picture of your enemy do you decide what the best counter is.
I don't think -A- has made a final decision yet. The -A- meeting seems to indicate that they want to poke around some more and need further intel with regards to the US timezone.
Rope-A-Dope
Lol, like they are that smart.
They coming over to Detorid/WC/Spalding Pass etc cause they think they will have an easier time of it, out blobbing those smaller alliances. Well, not gonna work out so well for em me thinks. Just ask Solar. The masses already forming against them is impressive.
As for the allies business, IMP-L/SONE and a bunch of other smaller alliance are now really wishing they had taken a leaf out of the HBC playbook and jumped sides earlier. Those that have already seem full of confidence for the future.
It's how you fight PL. Because PL is like the retarded bully trying to destroy your sandcastle only to realise you left an hour ago to get some free ice cream
PL will not turn against the goons as long as Tech brings as much money as it is bringing.
Reason is that this is currently only source of income for PL, while in the past they used to get lucrative mercenary contracts from DRF and other entities which included payments in titan hulls and money as well. With the defeat of Red Alliance and xxShadow of Deathxx, none was left that could hire PL's services.
PL had to accept being under Goon's control, or otherwise they could easily lose all their Tech to Goon blob and thus their only remaining income. It is obvious that PL does not like being told what to do, so they planned to make a blob of their own which could stand up to Goons. The only problem is that majority of their meatshield does not want to fight goons (read: TEST), and PL had no choice but to accept this.
Regarding their current invasion, the question is why have they invaded the south. Possible explanation is ofc to establish their own permanent blob, but also their knowledge of how and when Tech will be nerfed, what will become a new source of heavy income for alliances and the likelihood that this income will be more abundant in the south now. Thus, is better to take and fortify those region now before the competition starts, and show the middle finger to Goons afterwards.
Wrong, Pl realizes they can take 100% of Tech moons ith NCDOT and split it…..Thats 100x more than they make now.
Sorry but PL is comng with NCDOT, and just like RL Spartans at Thermop they [NCDOT] is holding out long enough to let PL/HBC anyne else realise GSF takes 70% of all tec in game, divide that up amd tell me PL wouldnt want 10x more income…..Hell if GSF falls we will see Nulli, BL, Gypsy,RA etc all make 10x what they make now [even pets will.
-A- / Soco was fighting test / pl in south, NC. and bros was fighting goons and allies in noth .. everyone was happy and enjoying the fights.. I was eating popcorn each night while browsing eve-kill (when it works)
why they had to screw this….?!
NRDS, especially Yulai Federation NRDS, Does not get to comment on Geo-Political Politics/Wars/PVP
You guys just sit in your space, and even if you wanted to, you wouldn't know how to properly participate in these battles, you wouldn't even make an effective meat shield. You guys would just simply die, and wonder what the hell you left your space for to begin with.
The people you came to aid would wonder what the hell they were doing inviting you guys to come out in the first place. This is assuming you left your space to go out and fight. Go sit next to CVA some more and see if you can learn something from them!
-A- helping Solar means the 3 or 4 -A- Russians that still bother to login will sometimes x up for a fleet.
-A-'s USTZ (the only part of the alliance still playing the game) remains in Stain/Catch.
Not really much to worry about.
biggest corp in -a- is from the UK, and EUTW has always been stronger then USTZ, get a clue plz.
This is stupid. Why would you want to ruin someone else's fun and make it serious business and blobs. The resent reports of battles between NCC and Solar are great but now we will have reports of -A- whinning about something or someone yelling over comms. I don't hate -A- its just this is a unnecessary move. Let the NCC and Solar duke it out without the world . If you want to blob or fight someone take the fight to PL.
So WTF just caused goons to lose 700 members yesterday without losing a corp. CCP finally ban some of their bots?
I was thinking bots as well.
Those who did have APIs on file were purged.
I know.. bots would have made for a much cooler story.
There once was some TEST from Nantucket.
Who were so fuckin bad at pvp, they said, fuck it.
They blued everyone twice, and thought it was nice,
and now drink PL cum by the bucket.
There was was a group called -A-
They bitch so I thought they were gay
They don't do goodfites
So we raped them all night
And now they won't undock and play.
so did the HBC become the NCC, or am I missing something?
There is one thing that surprises me everytime I see it: Comments on AAA being ally with SOLAR and making reminders like "hey SOLAR attacked NCDOT and therefore practically aided GOONSWARM!!!"
You guys shoudl remember:
1) When XIX, RA + PL seemed undefeatable, having incredible amount of pets and allies, it was AAA+SOLAR who had major credit for breaking this superpower.
and mostly:
2) When anyone comments about SOLAR "helping" Goons by attacking NCDOT when they were busy fighting Goons: DO YOU GUYS EVEN REALIZE HOW LONG TIME WAS NCDOT A GOON ALLY???
Seriously, NCDOT fought for such a long time on Goon side, they did nothing when goons steamrolled WN. and Raiden. If NCDOT gets steamrolled by Goons now, they are only getting what they deserve. Anyone has right to attack NCDOT and nobody has right "look they are helping Goon enemy" – because NCDOT IS NOT GOON ENEMY. All they are is just a servant, who served long time to the goon thing, and got tossed away when is not needed anymore.
SO PLEASE DO NOT TREAT NCDOT AS SOME ARCH ENEMY OF GOONS, THEY ACCEPTED GOON MASTERSHIP AND HELPED THEM FOR LONG TIME!!! EVERYONE WHO JINXES HIS NAME WITH GOON BLUE STANDING DESERVES NO MERCY!!!
K I am going to point out some flaws in your argument for you. We were hardly a Goon ally. All we had was a deal not to hit each other's moons. Do you know why we had that deal? Because when we decided to help Raiden they backed out of the war on us and left us to losing half our tech moons in Venal and 3 titans. Second flaw in your argument: Solar and Goons have an agreement not to shoot each other in battles, please tell me how that is not worse then Nc.'s agreement where we still shot goons everyday. Third please show me one instance where we actually fought on Goons side to protect a Goon asset. The only tech moon we ended up defending was a Pandemic Legion one. And the last flaw in your argument: Hate to break it to you but we never blue'd goons and if we did we probably would have had half or more of our alliance leave.
Confirming you are fucking retarded. "helped" goons. Go sit in the corner and think about wat u just said. Posting priveleges revoked.
You dont know shit, right when we decide to help WN/Raiden they pulled out and left us as aggressors i na fight we didnt want to begin with.
I love guys like you who know shit. If we left WN/RDN out to dry sooooo much and let them get steamrolled [in which they had double our man power and we havent even been close to rolled] why in the world did like half of RDN`s main Corps join us? Also why did alot of WN soldiers join us if we left them out to dry?
It didnt happen, and if killing GSF every chance we hide while only not shooting buildings, is your definition of Ally you must be a shitty one…..Oh wait your AAA, the Ally who "Owes no one anything" amd leaves ROL out to dry, yoy know the guys who got your space back twice and kept you getting income.
LOL -A- member lectures on loyalty to allies=Priceless.
History is fuzzy on his history, NCDOT only ever attacked in GEM when there allies Moons were under attack.
Also when ever any Nuet has SUpers they will get ganked by NCDOT.
Remember it was Solar who tried to take assets in Gem that both PL and NCDOT owned first….Also SOLAR warming up to GSF makes no sense at all. GSF backed the AAA invasion and really started it, they also took in Xdeath, you know the ones who started shit with SOLAR to begin with…..Solar are idiots with very poor diplo skills, beyond you are ruski so are we there Diplo blows ass.
ya it'd work just as well as last time I bet and Im not even in the cfc
Problem is -A- tries to act like an indy Alliance of small elite PVPers…..How many times did the dude in the -A- say "We dont care because we are PVPers", thing is im i na Alli who really is PVPers and small and elite IMO [instead of 3800+4300citz and almost the same amount of kills as our 1600 man Alliance] we dont have to constantly say we are PVP.
We just know we are. We dont hide in dock no matter how outnumbered, we dont blue ball unless totally a strat [not a not fight stra tI mean a weaken them then fight same night strat]
Point is they are joining Solar, who has as many members and blobs just as badly as HBC…..NO LEGS TO STAND ON AT ALL. They also have sided with GSF instead of NCDOT, if they would have fought with NCDOT Gypsy would have most likely stayed but it shook everyone up when they saw SOLAR blue goons and fight with them.
AAA is not a badass small lightning fast contingent of Elite PVPers, it may have some in it but its pack full of bears.
How many -A- could aplly and get into NCDOT? How many to PL? [and not just cause they are war but on merit alone]
1/4? 1/8th maybe? You guys have 300-400 real fighters who logon just for fights.
Your Leader said "this is why you joined AAA to forget plotic drama forget diplomacy just to PVP"
But in reality, you are in haflf the Drama in Eve and diplomacy is shit, then he says we dont owe anyone anything…..You owe catch to Stainwagon whom if wernt there to take it back you would have failed.
You know have picked the wrong side again in SOLAR because yu think with there numbers how can they lose….Lemme tell you withg 200 of us they lose alot, imagine Gyp and RA and friends vringing 400 down south whle we attack vitals up north? What then?
Solar has always been about being Russain and being slumlords, we cant kill there heritage but once hey lose income from renters they are doomed. Solar has much more of a chance to failcascade than Gypsy and RA who have already been through the wort times.
I think you guys hoped Solar would scare PL, but they look at us [NCDOT] kicking the shit out of them, and having done so on PL moons months ago and they arent shaken 1 bit, infact they will now kill SOlar, where as before Solar could have kept a smaller chunk, i think now thats past….PL will kill Solar and leave -A- no where to go, A keeps acting like they are going to help bro`s but in reality kknow they have lost the war in teh south, its over as soon as they let ROL split by not supporting them the back door was kicked in.
Predictions.
A enters war, PL follows.
Solar gets hammered in south by Gypsy while NCDOT/S2N hits in north Gem and defeats in both areas.
-A- retreats deeper into drones and PL comes further taking out more Sov and leaving Gypsy it all as they can become new Solar.
Entire SOlar Rentres of 4-5k members swapp payments to new powerblock.
Solar remains at skeleton crew and in NPC Null. and has now 6k+3k -A- allies.
Solar makes deal to keep 1/3rd of its now space if they turn dont fight NCDOT and hand over Tec split between winners, and they only way it works is if Solar hands over -A- [No one owes anything remember]
This will all culminate to a new style HBC+DotBRO+Gypsy Coalition alli to attack GSF, once GSF realizes its over for Slar and they arent allowed to fight with GSF ever or they will get steamrolled as part of pact, GSF will do something dumb and cause the hardened HBC+DOT+Gypsy Coalition to wipe out and destroy GSF.
PL will kill -A- while training test to fight GSF, Pl will leave TEst to fight US -A- and stand on there own [they cant lose cause numbers] Then Pl will help ther old buddies NCDOT fight GSF and they will al lsplit the Tec with Pl getting 60% of all its "Pets" income without Pl owning anything.
Get ready AAA and Solar your first and you did it yourselves…..Then GSF will be beaten by PL+NCDOT+Gyps….ALmost old DRF
Bnty – you're usually a pretty level headed dude. But this is very close to tinfoil hat shit. There are some snags in your plan –
1) Vince runs NCDOT – With the human roulette wheel in charge anything could happen
2) Russians eventually coalesce
3) GSF and PL are like bitter divorced parents vying for baby TEST – fight as they may Junior isnt going to slit mommy or daddy's throat.
Soooooo, what grade are you in?
You make some interesting points but it's really quite lost in all this verbal diarrhea. Writing succinctly is an art. Give it a shot.
What does that even mean? You are retarded.
What grade are you in? No counter points, nothing intelligent, hell not even an insult….Lol
What I'm doing is calling you extremely stupid. Spell check your shit and maybe use one of your parents as a proofreader. Looking at your posts and trying to decipher what they mean is like pulling teeth out of my brain…
Where you even with Cry Havoc?
We had excellent replacement, 100x better than most Allies.
Also Like AAA isnt full of Drama? Lol to that. people from AAA say its pro PVP but from what I have seen and heard they get camped in alot, or they just use it like an excuse, either way they are nothing like Cry Havoc, TBH no one ever was,it was a totally unique exp i really am sad ended, It was like PL without the chest beating and drama and NCDOT with great even keeled leaders+ 25 Moons and only 450 members lol