Recording: Against All Authorities Leadership Meeting

By riverini | Oct 17th 2012 3:55PM
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Given that I am dead busy with real life work today, I’ll just post this one here, if someone wishes to write a summary I’ll post it later.

Recording: Against All Authorities Leadership Meeting

The situation in the south for -A- is a grim one as the HBC are pushing hard into which ever staging system -A- moves to, so an alliance meeting was in order, here is the recording:

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  • alpoo

    ET would be very mad to hear that shit.

    • LOLite

      ET phone home

  • TheTruthHurts

    And no mention on the killed PL Carriers which were in LGK with a Super Fleet of PL with around 10-15 Supers. Sad only that PL/TEST have no balls and blobed again 3:1 against us… u want goodfights, then dont blob us scums.
    https://a-killed.me/?a=kill_related&kll_id=84…

    • Northern Grunt

      Blobbing is part of the game. If -A- didn't alienate all of their friends and allies, they would have a far better shot at winning at least "some" engagements.

      Getting "lucky" and killing a few caps does not equal skills.

      -A- needs to take some notes from the northern conflict. NCDot, Nulli, Ev0ke, Ewoks, Nexus, Sothern Comfort, Babylon – All working together and fighting 2 fronts and still in better shape than -A- ever was.

      Learn to evolve and adapt or -A- will sit in NPC space for the duration of their eve careers. Your retention rate on pilots will drastically drop when people start realizing that -A- is nothing more than a 3000 pilot small gang alliance. Go gate camp more scrubs.

      • -A- df

        Seems you didnt listen, -A- dont care about others. They dont ow them shit, they ow no one. Just a dif way of thinking. They rather stand alone, then with everyone else.

        • Northern Grunt

          Sure, and that's all fine.

          But if you're going to stand alone, you have absolutely NO ROOM to bitch and moan about blobs from alliances that work together.

          Sure, it's their choice to be a small gang alliance. That's all fine and happy. But just because the HBC doesn't want to be a small gang alliance and has created an extremely large coalition of alliances, doesn't mean they are "wrong" either.

          To each his own, it just so happens that -A- "thinks" they should be able to win with their small gang alliance and keep their sov. And when they get blobbed, they bitch, moan, hide in station and slander the opposing forces just because they can field more ships. It's their choice to field more ships just like it's -A-'s choice to alienate everyone and "attempt" to be seen as the elitist alliance in game.

          With the mentality of "We don't owe anyone anything and they don't owe us anything so we could care less about allies", they are not a nullsec alliance and should go back to NPC space and forget about holding Sov. Go play station games in high sec.

          • NC.

            Actually they do because everyone knows that alone, the individual alliance making up your mega coalition would be obliterated. Same shit with the CFC. Utter shit individual and they try to make up for it with share numbers.

            Ever forget, PL, INIT, Raiden, TEST etc are fighting largely AAA. A single shit stubborn alliance that is refusing to failcascade. I never understood how your clowns can gloat when you have one half of eve blued up.

          • Northern Grunt

            So what you're saying is that it's completely fine to be stubborn and "not" evolve with the natural evolution of eve itself. And then cry about the evolution the game is taking based on your own self entitled "pride"?

            The fact is, eve has evolved into large power blocs. It doesn't matter your personal preference. It doesn't matter what you wish or hope for. This is the reality of it. You either evolve to meet that evolution head on, or you simply lose your space. It's up to you.

            But complaining and bitching about blobs is like bitching and complaining about natural selection. You'll go hoarse before it ever changes. So what is the point? Get your shit together, evolve and become a fucking force again. Stop holding onto long dead customs and pride. If you can't evolve, you'll just die out. EvE Online has it's own form of natural selection and -A- will go the way of the dinosaurs if they refuse to adapt.

          • NC.

            You're telling one of the only alliances in the game that still lives in the same space it did when it started that it should learn and evolve LOL

            Bigger coalitions have gone down south and died in the process.
            Whenever someone was installed there ,they were farmed and ground to shit. Yeah, killboards are overrated but the true remains that AAA still get the most kills of any alliance in this game each month. So who do you think is going to absorb that damage? You think renters will pay to live there? In all honesty, I doubt the TEST/PL coalition will grind the 50 stations and pay the sov bills. I think this invasion like all others depend on AAA disbanding which just isn't going to happen.

        • Val_V

          -A- king stands alone.

      • DRF is fun

        -A- eve career is already 10 times as long as NC. career will ever be.

      • Dear megacoalition

        Evolve means two 10,000 man alliances bluing each other and everything they can get under the sun. I care little for the blobs, we will fight where we can and ultimately, we will take it all back.

      • -A- on duty

        Blobing is not evolution, it is regression.

    • PL guy

      Why do you keep saying this?
      http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=13756

      Do you think that people don't check battlereports? How do you expect people to take you seriously when you're clearly so full of shit?

      • Jesus

        WOAH pets are not allowed to talk.

    • eve pilot

      someone who hasnt read the military "if it takes 3 ships to do the job thensend 10" blobs have been hapeneing since man picked sticks and stones deal with it buddy its a simple fact of warfare

      • Devore

        Missing the point. It's not about warfare. -A- is clearly comfortable losing space and not holding sov. It's about fights. And HBC will get none packing 800 people into a system. This is a game, not real war, the retarded analogies notwithstanding.

    • ddd

      I'm sorry but you really need to stop playing the blob card , it wearing down fast.
      If you could please take note of how the NC. are dealing with their war you might learn a thing or two. Im no fan of the NC. but they seem to be able to hold their own against a larger enemy , you should stop bitching and try think of a way to do the same instead of sitting back and complaing that the numbers beat you. Sorry but its the truth , i actually like -A-

      • DDD

        NC. is not fighting PL and their hoards. They are fight a endless sea of meat-shields… But you can put in you app to join therm if your so cuckoo for the wanabe Spartans. I'm sure they have a spare pair of kneepads for ya m8…

  • leetnessmonster

    @ 12 minute mark Translation

    "We didn't want that space anyways and they will leave anyways and we'll come right back when they get tired of our space just like the old times"

    • Northern Grunt

      Which also translates into:

      We have alienated our allies to the point we can't field anywhere near as many ships anymore. So we're going to bitch and moan about blobs, hide in our stations, and come back when the only thing we have to fight are rats.

      But our killboards are green so that means we're elite pvpers.

      • Always laughahaha

        Are they wrong?

        • Northern Grunt

          They are wrong in the sense they think they are a nullsec alliance. They arn't. Their diplomacy is about as effective as a hot knife through granite.

          They say they'll just move back into Sov when the blob is gone. That is pathetic. That's like giving your lunch money to the bully in school, who gives the lunch money to a poor kid in a wheel chair, and then kicking the wheel chair over and taking the money back.

          But then again, if they want to be seen as the mentally challenged wanna be bully with a tie dye shirt and crocs… who am I to judge.

          • AAA grunt

            We still fighting daily. I have 150 kills last 2 days.
            Who ever is moving down here is gonna be farm to shit and I play my EVE for pvp.
            I do love the pissing on AAA by a coalition occupying 1/2 of 0.0 space.

          • Southland

            Must be a slow blob day up North huh Grunt?

          • always laughahaha

            Not sure I understand you, they've been a nullsec alliance for years and seem to be good at it. Because a bigger guy moves in next door disqualifies this? Your assumption is that everything in eve always goes according to plan, which can be quite wrong. You never know what will happen.

      • leetnessmonster

        Thats amazing how losing all your space, losing your allies, and getting taken over by Southern goons is ok as long as kill boards are green

        • -A- df

          Oh sorry i thought we are all playing a PvP game instead of a PvStation game.

          • -TEST- Grunt

            Maybe if you wouldn't run away and dock up we could have PvP instead of PvStation.

            But you docked up with equal numbers because you were losing.

            Abloo bloo bloo

          • MasterDebater

            If you look at this video you'll see that test doesn't want to fight. They're intentionally blobbing to get so much tidi, that no one will die

          • Devore

            -A- will give fights where they can have a fight. HBC can get fights if they want fights. If HBC doesn't want fights, they'll bring 600-800 to local. It's a pretty simple equation.

        • NC.

          Maybe AAA does not want to play your version of blue everyone in EVE. How Raiden and INIT took that TEST cock is beyond me. Some people in this game value pride over an easy 0.0 home.

          • Kunnilar

            You clearly have no clue about how TEST and the policys around being blue to them work.

          • DRF is fun

            i bet its something like:
            IF alliance!=blue, contact for blue standing

            right! right?

        • Just a carebear

          I find it amusing your fail attempts to propaganda.

        • Poastin Toaster

          you would think that people play a sand box game for different reasons.

          • Devore

            They play it for the same reason everyone else plays it: to have fun. Different people have fun doing different things differently, and they tend to hang out together.

        • Southland

          Works for lowsec….m8….You need to keep up.

  • leetnessmonster

    Part 1- Calm meeting talking about how -A- will rise again while Test/PL and friends crash the meeting outside

    Part 2- PL/Test and friends crash the party and kill many tengus, then @ 9:12 somebody says after getting welped "But I would consider this a win" (Hitler Bunker syndrome?)

    Afterwords Maka gets mad and ass kissing begins, SMH

    • heh

      You forgot about the 5 carriers being doomsdayed right in the face of nearly 20 or more PL supers. It wasn't a welp it was a retreat when HBC decided to bail their shit out with 500+ people.

      Sometimes I wonder if anyone on HBC/CFC side uses actual logic, you know, involving the brain – when it comes to fleet warfare.

      • This guy

        If I remember correctly the titans were right on the shield edge….. no really a "man we have a lot of courage move". Also props for actually logging them in for once. The -A- SC fleet was on the verge of becoming much like the mythological NC super fleet was since you lost 15 a few weeks ago.

        • -A- Member

          I would just warp three Titans into 44 moms with carriers and fox cats. What could possibly go wrong.

        • trol is as trol doh

          U obviously havent been in the right systems — the so called mythic NC super fleet seems to be killing shit — delaying/reversing cfc structure bashes daily.

        • NC pleb

          The reason why you wont see the NC super fleet is that while they will somewhat even against solar or goons Combined they outnumbered. while I dont know what the official standings are, solar and goons are working together. Also there are around 25 supers from the aus time zone that go out and bash sov targets

      • hmm

        brain ?? HBC/CFC, they don't have brains the only thing that they can do is hit F1 that's it

      • old timer

        if you guys are unable tou count properly , no wonder you are back to stain .

        br doc says 400 vs 400 .

  • Treston_Cal

    Leave it to the Americans to defend Catch, while the Russians run and play. One of the reasons we left ROL.

    • mii

      Leave it to traitors being traitors. Doesn't matter who you are, there's always one place for traitors.

    • NC.

      Traitors. Pure and simple. You join the ranks of Raiden and INIT at the TEST pig trough. Congratulations!

      • Treston_Cal

        Funny… I remember a technetium pact…

      • Just Bob

        "Their contract ended; ending their ties and obligations with SoCo! Those turrble peoples!"

    • old timer

      indeed , and they buy cars with aliiance's isk ^^

  • John Douche

    TL;DR: -A- demonstrates leadership, defines killzone, wants all to rise to the challenge.

  • hmm

    In this article:

    People with literally half of 0.0 blued up complaining about -A- refusing to do the same. If I remember correctly, EVE is a pvp game, not the cancer it's been turned into.

    Propaganda this and that… but there are some alliances in the game that don't give into the "blob bandwagon" mentality.

  • Dot

    Here's the BR Doc by the way:
    http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=13756

    I don't understand. In the meeting, they seem to be talking about some 900 man HBC fleet….doesn't seem to be on the BR doc though.

    • jim

      Not 900 man fleet. Local 900+ in the final part of the fight.

      • Dot

        they keep saying they were outnumbered 3 to 1. was there a different fleet battle?

        because for the lgk fight it looks like there were 400-450 on each side.

        • MasterDebater

          Listen here herples. Make sure you're seated because this might blow your mind:
          You only show up on a br if you shoot at something that goes boom.

          When tidi hit 10% people stopped going boom

          The last reinforcements didn't kill anything

          Not on br

          THEY'RE NOT ON THE BR

          • asshurt babby

            wahh! because of ships that didn't shoot us! because of the supers PL probably had on standby! because of CCP conspiracy to nerf tengus! Why isn't PL getting nerfed again instead GOD DAMN IT IM OUT OF EXCUSES

      • Northern Grunt

        But… wasn't Makula complaining about a blob and to dock up because they couldn't do anything? How their numbers were 3 times that of AAA?

        The doc shows damn near even numbers with AAA having Titan Support…

        • data

          Let me rephrase: "in the final part of the fight." There were on grid many more subcaps than -A- that made it a 900 man local. Not all of these new reinforcements made it on kms (thus, the data).

          And it's pretty obvious which side made up most of the 900 man local.

        • -TEST- Grunt

          SHUT UP YOU DO NOT TALK BACK TO -A- FUCKNIG PET RENTER111111

    • yeah

      guess numbers were p even, looks like PL really took the subcap fight home though, there must be 40 dead tengus on that BRdoc. I thought -A- were supposed to be pretty good at subcaps? I guess they still lose to PL.

      • hmm

        PL had supers and carrier support and about 100+ more subcaps. -A- logistics were nearly permajammed the whole time + ecm bursts from supers and carrier repping support for napocs.

        A lot of alliances would not be able to fight that head-on without cap support themselves.

        • wait

          I see 106 tengus, vs 79 Apocs + supers. Of those apocs, about 1/3 of them are non-faction and according the to BR, fitted with t1 megapulses.

          I usually don't side with TEST because theyre fucking retarded mouthbreathing idiots, but even I know that if the battlereport was reversed right now, there would be soooooo much -a- smug on here….

          • Norbert

            Thats bullshit, I was in the fight and local was at 980.
            We had 270 in the Tengu fleet.

          • hey

            Okay, but there's still more tengus on the BR then there are Apocs. There's about half as many "Navy" apocs on the BR as tengus. So either you got killed by magical subcaps that don't show up on killmails, or you are simply mistaken and you don't realize how many people log in to LGK when someone pings about PL supers being tackled, whether they undock and get in the fight or not.

            One example would be the dreads that you can hear being called for, or the supers you can hear the -A- fc asking for in the comms recording. You can even hear the -A- FC specifically ask for a separate fleet. Those never made it into the fight, but they were part of local.

            Sounds like you're just trained to reflexively call blob any time tengus die. If there really were 1000 test on the field, they weren't what killed your subcap fleet.

          • Norbert

            I never complained about Blob. That's what you do, so do it.
            We don't fight then, that's what we do. We don't have fun fighting outnumbered in heavy TiDi, so why should we?
            You can go grind structures, while we shoot what we can. In the end in a game, all what counts is having fun. If you enjoy what you are doing: more power to you. What I do know ist that I indeed have fun.

          • Southland

            You obliviously don't know how support and logistics work huh… Geez

    • welcome

      Welcome to the south. Where every PL member counts as 10 pilots while being terrible at the same time, losing spaceships is worse then losing space, and the only kills that matter are the ones you get on gates or on stations in a 20 man roaming nano gang with scimis, which by the way doesn't count as blobbing.

  • hmm

    To the people that say "oh but look at the north, they are fighting CFC outnumbered also."

    The difference is they are fighting goons, not PL/Raiden/Init and other far more competent entities. -A- is about 3400 members total. TEST by itself outnumbers AAA nearly three times over.

    Then add Raiden, PL (both supercap superpowers), Init, and the multitude of other alliances HBC panic blued in the last two months. It's not like fighting goon drake fleets. I mean, really think about it. When it comes to a station fight, do you really think AAA is going to match the slowcat or super count of HBC?

    This is the way it is in EVE with SOV wars.

    • anonymous

      Just throwing this out there we can't match Goon's slowcat and super count but yes fighting PL is different then fighting Goons.

  • TheStaafsak

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfpdwTv-IMo&li… Video of the battle in LGK with the short story below vid.

    you will thank me later riv ;)

  • Lock out

    Wasn't the same speech (they'll leave and we'll harass what they leave behind) given when retreat from Delve was decided ?

    • MasterDebater

      they never retreated from delve…

      • GS since '03

        But yes, It is the same speach -A- has given for the last 3 years.

        TL:DL : Dont care about space, shoot stuff. End.

  • timmy

    AAA are doing the sensible thing. They are extremely outgunned on the supercapital side, so any SERIOUS SOV defense attempts will just be met with disaster. Everyone knows this, it's the way it's been in EVE for years.

    It is interesting to see how much HBC and other goonpets chest-beat about taking over SOV with something like a 40k man coalition (that is blue to the 50k+ man one in the north), in an invasion that happens pretty much EVERY year.

    Man if -A- gave into this "blue everyone so you can be safe" mentality, there would be fuck-all pvp in the south.

    • hey

      wait a second weren't against all authorities those guys who were on the side with like a thousand people when the war vs RA was going on last year? I thought they were part of a really big coalition back then with SOLAR and Gypsy.

      • politics

        It's not quite the same as the permanent blue-fest up north. Gypsy was reset very soon after C-J was taken and SOLAR returned to Drone Regions, and there hasn't been much interaction since, in terms of SOV wars.

        In fact, GYPSY hitting SOLAR assets now in a full-fledged war kind of tells you how much different the mentality is compared to HBC and CFC.

      • Jita4ever

        That's pretty fun.

        There was a time when RA was part of the Xdeath/White Noise DRF coalition which included as members all of the alliances in the DOTLAN top 10 space holders + Pandemic Legion. The only exception were the goons. Goons mind you had an agreement to not touch DRF sov.

        So the true story is that this entire coalition pushed down south and invaded AAA space. Raiden, NC. PL, White Noice, RA, Xdeath, TEST, just about everyone you can think of was down south at one stage or another.

        The situation was so ridiculous that Kugu had no northern threads cos that was NAPland. End of the day, shit was taken back, coalition fell apart and RA and xdeath were punished.

    • AAA Vet

      PL has a hard on for us, spear heading another mega coalition (3rd attempt) down south :)
      I look forward to them grinding the 50 stations only to lose it all again.

      • Bubba

        I agree grinding stations is a pain, but on the bright side you'll have to grind them as well to get them back

        • Frodo the BOBit

          And with less supers:D

    • old timer

      this fight was 400 vs 400 … and maka calls it 900 against 200…

      as usual .

      • GS since '03

        Eeeeeeh

        No

    • Ex A pet

      I tought its been A's strategy to keep their SOV safe with all these blue pets that A had alot. You know the buffer space A had on edge of their space. Its A's own fault that they treated their pets and blues so badly. And latest thing was that A tried to blob INK out of their space with SOLAR. But INK had friends too ;D

  • M4ster112

    Does -A- always have multiple fc's talking over eachother like tards?

  • JUAN MIGUEL LEONE

    AAA IS THE MOST SHITTY ALLY EXISTED IN THE UNIVERSE OF EVE

    • guest

      u mad, if this would be true, where would you postion " PLEST" pl + test= plest worst allys in all universes i guess would be the propper answer right?

      • Always laughahaha

        2 terrible posts right here people!

  • JUAN MIGUEL LEONE

    evil thug please come back and lead -A-

  • zzz

    lol picture of a paper lion, very clever.

    • zzz

      look at that Riverini, people don't like that picture.

  • unsatisfied reader

    -A- is exactly where they want to be ”fighting” whether their back is agaisnt the wall or they are on an enemys doorstep. They pick their fights as they have and their goals wil be met and tere truely only one goal foR -A-. And that is pvp. Losing, winning- guerrilla warfare is What they do. Sov does not dictate their existents fighting does'

    • Eas_

      -A- is used to being on their back from what I can tell.

      • Southland

        You must luv reverse cow-girl too huh….;)

  • PL dude

    I am pretty curious to know how it feels to 1. Have an alliance meeting going on(tons of members online) 2. Be in your "new" home system (no need to move). 3 Have a good majority of your supers in system. (Safety in numbers) and realize that if we had tackled a good chunk of your supers/titans that your leaders would of just let you die. The fighting would of lasted 20 mins tops until your shitty alliance just gave up and left billions on the field to die. You complain about blobbers but we were in your own home system while a shit ton of your members were listening to Maka spurge himself to death.

    • John Douche

      I am sure you are pretty curious. You fail so much that all you feel is hate. It must be sick to be PL…

      If's and would's? Really? You deny yourself the truth, don't want others to see it and try to deflect from the truth? Who besides alcoholics does that??

      The truth is you tried to crash the meeting and have failed. Don't hate -A-, hate yourself.

      Trying to crash a meeting and hoping to succeed? Is this all you got? Don't you dare to show your face anymore? Is it this ugly?

      • PL dude

        Like I said it was hypothetically. We can back up when we have shit on the line. Or say… when 16 retards in SC's plant themselves on the undock. Within 10 minutes everyone of them knew they were gonna die on that spot. And they wer left very shortly to die by the subcap fleet. Now we are doing the same thing daily. almost round the clock, and whats left of that shitty alliance, that even I once feared and respected as an enemy, does nothing to even try and stop it.

        • John Douche

          Oh, pity you! Why would they want to stop you?

          You take away their space, but they don't care for it. You think they care, but it is you who cares about it, not them. If you take space or give space doesn't matter, but you do care for it.

          You also reflect on the past, but you don't see yourself and look at those you hate. Take a look at yourself! What I see is: you fail, you hate, you repeat.

          Who would want to stop you when you are giving yourself hell? Only the dumb will come to give you hell when you are doing it to yourself.

          • PL dude

            'You take away their space, but they don't care for it" is the whole we didn't want the space anyways? Cause why have the decided they wanted it back multiple times? Also the past is less than 2 months away. Pretty fresh actually and still in the books as the last "big whelp"

          • John Douche

            No, it isn't. Are they asking you to give it back? No. Are they complaining about lost space? No. So they do not want it back.

            What they want is PvP. They only take space after someone moved in who doesn't want fights and then give it to those who do or occupy it themselves to make ISKs. They don't decide to "want" space or to "want it back". It simply falls to them as a result of their fighting.

            You should know the difference. You too don't hold space, but have your ways to pay the bills.

        • heh

          Left shortly to die?

          If you mean atleast 30 minutes of fighting three full welpcane fleets and losing three fcs and all anchors equals "short", then I don't know what to say.

          HBC has been trying very hard for their propaganda campaign to make it look like they were just abandoned.

      • AAA

        PL take themselves and this game way to seriously.
        I remember AAA losing supers. Pretty calm even the odd joke at times.
        Then I remember that retard Garth crying like a baby their rather minor equivalent.

    • MasterDebater

      They saved their super, killed some carriers and ended on close to 50% eff.. Where's this problem?

      • Just Bob

        They didn't save it, the second wave of supers unfortunately cyno'd on top of it, bumping it into the POS.

        • MasterDebater

          lol, didn't know that. Maybe that's why he is so mad

        • Wedge

          Did it live = Saved

          • Frodo the BOBit

            Saved by lucky bump != saved by -A-

  • M1k3y

    -A- leaving their space to retake it later for the third time? Two more times and they turn in their punch card for a free region!

    • MasterDebater

      last time around they killed the old RA on the way back, maybe this time it's test?

    • always laughahaha

      Up vote c'mon, this is a funny comment!

      • John Douche

        Let me get my N2O bottle. Zzzzzzhhhhhhh….

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        • Always laughahaha

          Remember not to take this shit too seriously, it's usually really funny!

  • de ja vu

    heard alot of comments like this before MM died, how they were active, nothing to worry about, and how sov comes and goes, sounds alot like failcascade coming on

    • guest

      dude, your brain is failcascading

  • zzz

    wtf are they talking about how ccp wants aaa to police their renters and make sure they don't bot?
    that's retarded, no alliance would put up the man hours for that, for free

    • hmm

      and who said it's free ?? :D

  • -a- rip

    never heard so much bitching and moaning in my life, if everyone doesnt play eve -a-'s way why does -a- play eve, its not gonna change. -a- is dying as far as i can see

    • AAA

      Yup, we sure are. Yet another month on top in terms of killing activity in EVE. Enjoy the grind :)

  • Diebotters

    We want to "thank you" players like Kell Tarhun and other who report -A- bots.
    Kell Tarhun fucked -A- in best possible way. He reported as announced. Botting corporation inside -A- space and they told ccp they cannot control bots using their space :D HAHAHA http://www.evenews24.com/2012/10/04/leak-some-mac…
    FUCK YOU RMT iers..

    Join Maka fleets and die BOTS

    • M.V 4life

      Kell,

      Don't use a different posting name then refer to yourself in the third person… its very embaracing for yourself…

      also

      lolololol

      lol

      MD

  • lol…

    Some of these comments from -A- members make me laugh so hard just so hypocritical "-A- is against blob warfare" if that were true then why are -A- blue with Solar and co and are now preparing to deploy to save Solars ass when Solar are fighting against very even numbers? call me crazy but that sounds like blobbing to me…but oh wait sorry i forgot it doesn't count if it's -A- does it i forgot that special rules apply to your alliance.

    • someother dude

      -A- is only against blobs when their enemy blobs are bigger than theirs; if -A-'s blobs bigger it's all about good fights. They're right about losing sov – it comes and goes. Hyprocritical… isn't that to be expected?

  • https://www.facebook.com/dewayne.chandler Dewayne H. Chandler

    This scenario is all too familiar… "-A- is dead " "-A- Lost their Sov, they are done" how many times does history repeat itself and -A- bases in NPC space and still thrives? Large coalitions consist of many people latching on for the space, for the recruitment value of the space they obtain…. -A- just exists to fight…. Sov or no sov alliances such as -A- stay alive easier with the more action they get…. by invading catch you're doing -A- a favor lol…. This was fun before in lgk, it will be again whatever bases of operations end up being. -Mr Sado BUSA

  • ROL

    to win the isk you gotta kill a couple of more carriers for loosing 31 Tengus btw :S

  • HBC Pilot

    "We don't owe anything to our allies, and they don't owe anything to us". Terrible, terrible idea. No loyalty = you eventually loose to the guys who have the bigger batphones. So there is no honor in winning with batphones and diplomacy? Well, who cares if you win. You don't always have to fight to win. Sun Tzu said the greatest general get what they want without having to fight at all.

  • Always laughahaha

    That fc they have is poison.

  • War Observer

    So, they just openly admitted they can't match the HBC in any way, and they hope to re-take the space later?

    Popcorn ready, waiting for the fail cascade…

    • -A- Grunt

      you obviously know nothing about -A-

      • Neut grunt

        Living as a neut in catch for over 2 years and can confirm this. He knows nothing 'bout -A-. History has shown quite the opposite is true, any alliance invading catch ends up somewhat, or totally, cascading.

  • -A- Grunt

    lol you guys seem so mad at -A- because we do not fit your profile of every other alliance in this game… You know, the ones who bend the knee to whichever bloc/super-power it might be at the time. The ones who crumble and disappear into the ether as their members lose morale and defect and evacuate.

    We love that you are mad, we love that you want our space, and your shit talking just makes us want to get you in the sights of our Tacheons and Howitzers even more. So keep stoking the fire… and fueling our WAR MACHINE

    Long Live -A-

  • stats matter

    you dont want hordes of blues have you looked at your blue list its twice the size of tests cfc and hbc arnt blue to eachother only test and goons are check the killboards idiots goons are free to shoot at for most of the hbc

  • always laughahaha

    We actually have a mutual protection pact…