I am still recovering from the shock when I initially heard this story. This a quintessential proof of how useless Titans have become and how they are perceived through the eyes of some of their holders.

Mining Titan down! Yes, I Repeat Mining Titan down.

The Kalevala Expanse: Acwron from Relativity Alliance [RENT] had some quality time; he was participating in a mining op which included an Orca, a few mackinaws and of course Acwron’s own Ragnarok Titan. NCDOT caught word of this and FC Travis Musgrat formed up a quick response fleet, one can only imagine the look on the face of the titan pilot when an NCDOT heavy interdiction landed on the grid and nailed the super-capital, a cyno was lit shortly afterward and the whole mining fleet was obliterated by the NCDOT supers. The bridging support fleet was larger than shown on the kill-mail, the thing is the Ragnarok and the other ships melted so fast there were nothing left to shoot.

There is an on-going discussion on who this Relativity Alliance is, some say it is some Black Legion. renter (which to my knowledge owns no renter) while other pointed it is an Against All Anomalies (SOLAR Ally) renter. The alliance shares blue standings with both alliances, it is pretty obvious – since the kill happened in Kalevala – this is a SCDOT client alliance.

For years I have heard and written stories about pilot stupidity, but this while not on the top of my list, is quite high up there.

Rage-narok

Our commenter leetnessmonster pointed a protest post made by this very same pilots in the Eve-O forums where he pointed out the changes in tracking and how it affected him:

Since CCP lied to us and said they cut 50% tracking but instead they added some idiotic equation…I mean, let’s say my bullet is the size of a frigate, when I hit it, I deal like 10-15 damage…So instead of going thru the goddamn frigate and splash it all over the system, the said bullet is scratching it FFS :) OH, LORD ! I wanna smoke what you had ! Well, half of it should be enough for me and my boys actually.

I fitted 800mm matar autocannon on my big ship, went to an anomaly and guess what : I was dealing like 20-30 dps on battleships. WOW. Not WOW, that’s a crap game. WOW like OMFGWTF !

Anyway, let’s put this behind, it’s embarrassing…You ruined alot of builders, alot of isk invested in BPO’s BPC’s worth shite now.
Thanks Greyscale ! Gimmi my freaking SP’s back ! I could use them some other way…like mining !

So we got here, using titan for mining…For those who wanna know, the fit is :

HIGH 6 x miner II
MED 100mn MWD, 2 harderners, 1 survey scan II
LOW 6 x Mining Laser Upgrade II

Tanking the rats and mine…soooo cool ! So who said mining needs more love ??? Mining just got the needed love ! The biggest, most expensive ship in the game is good for nothing else but MINING !

Thanks again you CCP goons ! It’s crystal clear that you were brainwashed while you were in Gayswarm.
I think Chribba would be proud of me,

Of course, nobody in his right mind believed him back then. In fact the thread was closed by CCP Guard who considered it “Ranting and nonconstructive posting is not our favorite thing on these forums”. Well, who’s laughing now… or maybe crying?

System ownership at the time of the kill:

Eve-Kill mail for the Rakgnarok
Mining op Success

Battle Report

Travis Musgrat sent us the following battle report on how things actually went down:

For the past few days the scanner had been poking me about this rag that was mining and getting me to setup on him for a lol Titan mail. We went through several ideas of getting alts to AWOL or log off a prover and dictor in system to tackle but the night before ended up having the scanner log off with his main in a cloaking cyno probing dictor.

So he logged on and got on ts with the Titan pilot and basically got him to say he was mining so I then moved the route into position. This entire time I had neglected to really do anything because I highly doubted that we would get the tackle. I pinged for slows and supers to log in screens and got maybe 8 dudes that wanted a kill; nobody except scanner and I knew we were going for a Titan until scanner had him tackled and lit the cyno in his sabre.

So we moved those of us in slows to the last mid and got scanner to log in. He dropped probes got him to 50% on his first hit and took him 2 more times to get warp able results.

The entire nerve wracking time this was going on I tried to get updates but couldn’t get any until he lit cyno because he was shaking so hard he couldn’t say anything.

He tackled, lit cyno, ghost riders went and the 3-4 of us who had brought our supers with us came in and watched him melt. In the time I had pinged after I confirmed tackled he was already 70% shields from either the rats or fighters the ghost riders put on him before they got into hics. People poured into channel and about 30 were in either mid by the time he poped but only jean leaner from nulli was the only person that did 2 mids in the time he died and managed to jump in and whore with a smart bomb. Them went home while I got on my soapbox and laughed at all the people who didn’t get on the Mail for not being on standby.

Additional Intel

We got the following snippets too, thanks to all who collaborated:

Reading your Titan kill article you seem to be lacking a bit of intel so here goes:-

The backstory to why RENT has blue standings to both SCDOT and BL. goes back to the recent conflict in Kalevala. When IRC, Persona Non Gratis, Ethereal Dawn and Black Core Alliance evicted SONE/Broken Toys from the region following their failed attack on Etherium Reach. SCDOT joined the fight on the side of the Solar Coalition in the later days and did alot of work grinding structures with supers, this along with the fact that the Etherium Reach alliances really didn’t want the sov in Kalevala led to SCDOT taking most of it.

However when the last northern pocket of Broken Toys space was all that was left they flipped the space over to Black Legion. A conflict between the two sides raged on for a few days as we endlessly blapped each others TCU’s but it ended quickly when SCDOT made a deal with BL. to share proceeds of any rent taken in that pocket of space.

That is pretty much why they are both blue to RENT.

Story of the kill since i know the dude who killed the titan (lit cyno) and the titan pilot.

Acwron was using the titan to tank the mining anomaly and mine at the same time, while talking with The Scanner (dude who lit cyno) on my corp TS. Scanner was a member of my corp and he spent his first days eve eve salvaging after the titan in PB cause Acwron let him. Tonight they were both on the same ts, talking and Acwron din’t took him as a threat since he was on ts and knew him.

Mistakes were made -1 titan.

Copy paste from my kugu post. I know both acwron and The scanner.

The titan was in J-OAH, not in BZ-. Im the dude that caught him si if you guys want a story to put on there, contact The Scanner in game!

- R

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  • SyncVir

    Proof Mining needs better ships, can't even mine in a Titan without getting Ganked! CCP Buff all ships NOAW!!!.

    I chuckle and await the video. Congrats on Educating another person on one of Eves many not too do lessons.

  • leetnessmonster

    I SHIT YOU NOT this guy was bragging about this mining Titan months before the post is titled:

    "Mining has got the needed love : Titan mining, Chribba style !"
    https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts
    ____________________________________________________________________
    Since CCP lied to us and said they cut 50% tracking but instead they added some idiotic equation…I mean, let's say my bullet is the size of a frigate, when I hit it, I deal like 10-15 damage…So instead of going thru the goddamn frigate and splash it all over the system, the said bullet is scratching it FFS :) OH, LORD ! I wanna smoke what you had ! Well, half of it should be enough for me and my boys actually.

    I fitted 800mm matar autocannon on my big ship, went to an anomaly and guess what : I was dealing like 20-30 dps on battleships. WOW. Not WOW, that's a crap game. WOW like OMFGWTF !

    Anyway, let's put this behind, it's embarrassing…You ruined alot of builders, alot of isk invested in BPO's BPC's worth shite now.
    Thanks Greyscale ! Gimmi my freaking SP's back ! I could use them some other way…like mining !

    So we got here, using titan for mining…For those who wanna know, the fit is :

    HIGH 6 x miner II
    MED 100mn MWD, 2 harderners, 1 survey scan II
    LOW 6 x Mining Laser Upgrade II

    Tanking the rats and mine…soooo cool ! So who said mining needs more love ??? Mining just got the needed love ! The biggest, most expensive ship in the game is good for nothing else but MINING !

    Thanks again you CCP goons ! It's crystal clear that you were brainwashed while you were in Gayswarm.
    I think Chribba would be proud of me,
    __________________________________________________________________________
    Let the trolling begin

    • https://www.facebook.com/riverini Enrique Jose Rivera Azofeifa

      WOW DUDE just wow…

  • Random guy

    Fucking scrubs only use macks in nullsec, and lazy fat faggots. you have a belt tank and dont need the hp so why not use a hulk and get 20.5% more yeild…..

    • https://www.facebook.com/david.m.grogan David Grogan

      chances are they were semi afk'ing while mining with the macks… 35000m3 ore bay makes it more convenient than hulks. But nobody should afk in an exumer in null sec. Also why didn't the scrub use t2 strip miners on that titan?

      • whysodead

        can only fit strip miners on mining barges and exhumers

        • https://www.facebook.com/david.m.grogan David Grogan

          chribba fitted t2 strip miners on his avatar

          see screenshot http://eve-files.com/chribba/mining_tango.jpg

          • John Douche

            Your lack of mining knowledge honours you.

            These are Deep Core Mining Laser IIs. They, too, take mining crystals and can be fitted on turret high-slots. Also see the little icons next to the targeted asteroid. It shows the laser type.

          • yoghi

            your knowledge of mining dishonours you MR. carebear

          • Draco

            Phuff, a good miner/industrialist know his stuff, and a really good miner/industrialist uses said knowledge to keep his corp armed to the teeth!

            I call said people Corpbears, as they know what there doing, help the corp, and don't do stupid stuff like mine afk in war decs and haul 100 bil in a Iteron 5 :)

          • DoesNotWork

            No Chribba didn't beat the game mechanics, Chribba used "Modulated Deep Core Miner II", they can fit crystals. Look at the symbols on the Roid

  • wizecum

    wonder if he mined enough ore in that titan to buy another to replace it?

  • hirrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    well, at leasr he is a man of his word.. lol

  • Crash

    Yah! WTH CCP this titan can tank rats and Mackinaw cant please nerf titan HP to 1k. Ah and also please remove fighters froms supper carriers they still can hit some ships. Suppers should be only for structures. Please CCP I know you are smart and know what I mean :D

  • leetnessmonster

    TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY
    This was the same guy that used Mittens as a third party then got scammed out of 40-50bil while Mittens typed DEATHTOALLSUPERCAPS and logged off with his isk:
    http://eve-search.com/thread/32005-1/page/1

    His post after it happened:
    Is it normal to get scammed by The Mittens, Chairman of CSM ???
    https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts

    Jester's story on it
    Bonus Quote of the Week: Coddled http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/2011/11/bonus-quot

    NOT ONLY THAT FOLKS he later did get a Nyx… and lost it by trying to solo rescue his corpie LOL… well at least hes gonna be famous… again

  • Raz

    So his first problem was that Titans weren't good in anomalies.

  • Random Miner

    ……. …. ahhh ……

  • dikreathz

    And the ammo rained upon the Non-believers like they had never seen before, and the rocks were safe once more :D

  • BntyHunter

    I can confirm he was hunteddown for a day and the guy who did it is in my a corp….a GENIUS you SLAVIC SEX MACHINE

    Oh and mittens suck it for nbanning us, now you dont get shit for a scoop

    • Sunbird

      O kojoj se ekipi radi?

  • EvE

    He was a care bear and was cross he could no longer use the titan for ratting, so he really didn't want that titan anyways…

    • indy

      could have sold it

  • BntyHunter

    We killed him not you mittens you fag

  • RobFromMarketing

    Guys, this is no Black Legion. alt…this is a PURE CAREABEAR who is only farmin and selling ISK

    Ce bine imi pare ca ai luat muieeeeeee

  • BntyHunter

    http://northern-coalition.co.uk/?a=kill_related&a

    Confirming NCDOT failcascading and stopped killing or attacking and is prepping for Evac……Seriously Mittens Banned me… lol I love it.

    • Marcus_McTavish

      What the fuck are you even saying?!?!

  • BntyHunter

    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&adjacent&…

    More hurting for allies to fly with….God we ARE ALONE

    • anonymous

      there was some emoraging about being bombed by red alliance, not a great decision but we still helped them save a csaa later that night so they can't totally hate us… I hope.

  • John Douche

    TL;DR: It's official! Titans are for everyone.Only 67B ISK. See your local Titan dealer. Come and get one!!

  • Viper Shizzle

    lol.

    • John Douche

      It is not funny. It is sad. Sad, because a WoW kid actually did manage to come this far and to get one of the biggest ships in EVE and got to act like he had a clue about EVE. It reeks and stinks of WoW attitude where only the size of your swords matters. How is this even possible that such a kid manages to get its hands on the ship? Who allowed it to have it? It takes the help of several players and many skill points to get there!

      Or, ask yourself if EVE would be dying, which would be the signs one should be looking for? Is it WoW kids flying around in Titans to go mining?? … It is definitely one of the top indicators for me.

      NCDOT saved EVE Online!

      • Justchecking

        It could also be CCP Nerf something when a large group of "people" cry in forums and make a ship that needs tons of skills and ISK almost useless.

        • Treston_Cal

          Tell that to Wixy doing drive by DD's on Dreads…

        • droljica

          Well, we should all start to cry how fat and slow ccp geymasters/devs are, maybee thel'll cut sugar and donuts, and start working.. for real.

      • Atacdad

        "NCDOT saved EVE Online! "

        LOL

      • Cholleric

        This just proves in what kind of shit state the game is in right now.

      • http://www.facebook.com/briancmckinley Brian C McKinley

        He probably bought the char, hence had not rl skill to fly it nor the respect for such an asset. Why I don't like buying or selling chars.

  • The_Oracle86

    Wow this guy, is just plain batshit stupid…. Mining titan, trusting a goon, petitioning a scam thinking he'll get justice……. all he needs to do now is join test :)

  • D-D

    Sooo nerfing titans was a bullshit!!!! YES they are I WIN BUTON ….but if you don't have the guts to comit your own titans becouse u are fagot dont complain!!!
    Titans are to good?? ok lets nerf them to hell. CCP u complain the supers are not use!!! sooo when some guys find a way to fitt them to be usefull in fleet battels and GOONS complayn becose they are to afraid to use they own TITANS CCP applied theyer best expantion NERFFING!!!!
    NERFF the fu…king FW ( im in milittia )
    Acwron tonight i will be online and from my 28.000.000 isk in my wallet i will sent u 14 mil in protest for CCP best expention and emergent game play!!!

    PS: sorry for my english and i'm not mad :P

    • MasterDebater

      Wow 14 mil. Amazing. Totally covers his loss

      • D-D

        Dude Acwron dont need my isk …it is a gest of protest fot CCP …but u are to ignorant to se that!

        • John Douche

          It is probably your bad English, which makes his eyes water. It is hard seeing things under tears.

          • D-D

            probably =))))))

  • -A- on duty

    1 down, 4568982 to go

  • ultraric

    guess a newbie bought this char and made trolly epic fail

  • Humble_miner

    Nerf mining titans. They're Just. Too. Good.

  • rane

    just wondering… if the ship is 19K long, can he actually use all of his lasers at the same time??i mean wouldnt some of them be off rang??

    • John Douche

      In EVE the distance between two objects is measured from a single point on each side and only the radius of the objects is taken into account (iirc).

      • Lolz

        Ummm… Pretty sure there was some sarcasm you missed in there…

        • John Douche

          I am old school. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

      • Truthfulness

        don't be that guy, was a joke arse hat

  • https://www.facebook.com/david.m.grogan David Grogan

    so where is the fraps video?

  • Geeks

    Titans are indeed nothing but an expensive mining boat or a very expensive mobile jumpbridge. That's it.

    • Zod Sokarad

      Zod agrees.

    • The Observer

      Pretty much. But look at what the "mobile jump bridge" allows you to do. If you have the will and the ISK, you can surprise buettsecks people pretty much anywhere in eve (barring HS and w-space).

      To be fair though, they should make titans at least a LITTLE better. Maybe allow warping after a DD (cloaking still out though). Would still be a little late for the IMP-L Avatar though. lol

  • vera dir

    Acwron is rmt'er. he has/d multiple ratting titans. in fact he already lost a few under other names and his carebear system was E2- in period basis for over a year.
    he was paying +15bil a month alone to us ,vera cruz, for his rmt operation

    die bitch :p

    • scumbagRL

      Can you prove that , form what i know he was petition by many others for the same thing , and he's not banned , dind't losse any of his accounts . So your point is't invalid.

    • scumbagRL

      and btw he was paying 9b and he didn't losse any titan , that was complitly other player he lost his nyx at that time

    • Acwron

      LOL retard :) ) You're my favorite candidate for president.

  • IRC Grunt

    Operation "Save Veldspar" resounding success.

  • Suzume

    Sorry but I disagree that Titans are useless now. Between the gang member bonus, the mobility afforded by the bridge and of course the DD they're still an asset worth having for an alliance.

    As far as the 'sorta-meta-game' thought process about shell size, etc – you need to watch "They Were Expendable" and remember that in Eve ships don't typically carry a secondary battery and even Large size guns are still well… Large.

    Taking 60+ bil of what was probably not all your effort and hosing it down the drain mining then losing it… that's the real sad part here.

  • PandemicHeathen

    Has Chribba lost his Rag???????

    • skullair

      he wasn't mining veldspar… not chribba

  • Forget CCP

    I think CCP should refund skill points to players who have invested so much time and SP on nerfs. Where's the trust CCP? Where is the TRUST? Classic bait and switch–get players to WASTE THEIR TIME AND SKILLPOINTS on ships only to nerf them?

  • Scar

    LoL this made my day. +1 to this dude for doing this stupid shit.

  • Anona-mouse

    Little did we know that this was the herald for the secret ship in this winter's expansion…a Titan made specifically for mining! And it shall be called the Dafaq.

  • Carl sagan

    So the guy was like, hey can I salvage yer kills? ok thanks… Oh and I wonder how I can stab you and kill yer shiznatz.

  • Goons are better

    I am pilot who fight for NCDOT ..i know Acwron and i know The Scanner too ..alias Emperror Aeon …Till today i lost many ships in north against solars and goons ..but from now on i will invite goons to kill Vince and the entire NC bullshit coalition. When players sharing the same teamspeak and pretend to be friends are doing that …no more words ..no more drama …Respect BL respect Elo king of the north!!!

    • NC.scrub

      Lol awww did vince shout at you? use this doll to show me were he touched you…

    • Epic

      Goon troll lamest most hularious troll. FYI goons can't even get a super kill when they are on the super pilots comms, and trust me its not from lack of noobs trying.

    • bob micnugget

      whats ironic is elo has done the same thing

  • Goons are better

    I am pilot who fight for NCDOT ..i know Acwron and i know The Scanner too ..alias Emperror Aeon …Till today i lost many ships in north against solars and goons ..but from now on i will invite goons to kill Vince and the entire NC bullshit coalition. When players sharing the same teamspeak and pretend to be friends are doing that …no more words ..no more drama …Respect BL respect Elo king of the north!!!

  • Wiu Ming

    "The entire nerve wracking time this was going on I tried to get updates but couldn’t get any until he lit cyno because he was shaking so hard he couldn’t say anything."

    don't we all know THAT feeling… huge props to the scanner/dictor pilot for holding it together and getting the job done

  • CareBearStares

    Mmmmhmmm. Dong Mineing, and bragging about it. What could possibly go wrong?

  • Renan Ruivo

    "[...]one can only imagine the look on the face of the titan pilot when an NCDOT heavy interdiction landed on the grid and nailed the super-capital[...]"

    Bored indifference.

    This is the same guy that lost two Rags ratting in the bast, along with a few moms. He has a bitchin ISK printer going on for a couple of years now. doesnt care the least about playing EVE, makes a few grand per month with RMT and can replace this loss as fast as it takes to just buy a new ship (when he doesnt have a reserve one, like was the case with the first ratting tit loss)

    And not that i'm mocking him … i'm not. In all honesty i'd love to have so much in this game that i'd be unable to give any fucks.

    • Acwron

      Renan, is that you really? I thought you're smarter than that…I really hope someone took your nick and wrote this shit.

      • Renan Ruivo

        Yes. It's not a nick, its my real name as everyone knows it. I wouldn't be able to own the wrongs that i talk otherwise. It's easy to talk shit about someone you haven't talked to for a long time, and easier still to do it with a hidden face. So then, I apologize for having said you didn't gare the least about playing EVE and for saying you RMT without me knowing if its true.

        The rest is true though. I would really love to have ISK. All of it.

  • OldxPlayer

    I don't think anything can save EVE…….in rapid decline

  • Mercfromabove

    well a rag is better than a rev at mining. All those high slots make it a great contender against the hulk

  • Cynical Jovian

    Knows guy since first days in eve, receives help as a noob.
    Joins NCDOT and betrays guy who helped him.

    NCDOT logic is obvious: the fewer friends you have the more leet you are. It goes to stand that NCDOT's hidden agenda is for the last foreveralone nerd to crown himself king of space. gg fatbois

  • Cozenn

    Granted I have not been playing EvE very long, though even a scrub like me knows a Titan was and always has been more of a logistics ship that needs a lot of fleet support to be used properly. Obviously if your fleet are a bunch of mining ships even a mighty Rag will get kicked in the face by a proper assault force quickly. Dude grossly misused his ship, no one should feel sorry he got ganked doing something stupid in nullsec with it.

    Bring the right tools for the job. Some ships in EvE are great at some things but totally suck at everything else depending on the situation. EvE is not WoW, the biggest ship does not grant instant dominance.

  • Acwron

    I suggest instead posting idiotic things, you should actually ask me about what happened. Just an idea, you know…Been accused of RMT or Ebay buyer…you have to decide I guess…either I buy or I sell ? If I did anything wrong, I'd be banned by now, what do you think ? Feel free to petition me to CCP and let the truth set you free !

    Backstabbed by a pathetic 16 years old kid… That what you get for being nice…No good deed remains unpunished !

    He was kicked wherever he went in this game and we still gave him a place to socialize with his fellow romanians. Bad thing to do.

    Don't forget : Eve is not real, it's just pixels…and I don't give a shit about pixels. I do care tho about some people. The Scanner is not among them now. Life will put him into his place.

    Any questions, mail me in game…

  • http://online-chicago-insurance.info/ Randi Askew

    Or, ask yourself if EVE would be dying, which would be the signs one should be looking for? Is it WoW kids flying around in Titans to go mining?? … It is definitely one of the top indicators for me.

  • PVP Junky

    Who cares… its a mining ship :P

  • GT.

    you sir are my hero lol mining in a titan i would love to know what your yield was