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	<title>Comments on: The Nosy Gamer: CCP Sreegs Unleashed 2.0 &#8211; In His Own Words</title>
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		<title>By: CareBearStares</title>
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		<dc:creator>CareBearStares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQmBXEZEYtg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQmBXEZEYtg&lt;/a&gt; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQmBXEZEYtg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQmBXEZEYtg</a> </p>
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		<title>By: CareBearStares</title>
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		<dc:creator>CareBearStares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Valid. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valid. </p>
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		<title>By: Cephias Caine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cephias Caine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh my god, did you teach yourself economics or does it &quot;just come to you&quot; like mana from heaven?    Old Isk doesn&#039;t earn interest, and taxes on earnings are just that, taxes on new isk being inserted into the game thru legitimate practices.  NO ADDITIONAL ISK IS MADE, it doesn&#039;t appar out of thin air dip shit, it is a portion of the isk earned.    
 
CCP is after all aspects of RMT, so if they are involved in some way then they will suffer, tough shit.   
 
And as for why CCP doesn&#039;t like RMT, but they like PLEX?  Well gee Wilbur do ya think they might want to keep all the money earned by their product, their copyrights, and their hard work?  Yeah, I think I would too.  Go get a job, learn how bills and taxes work, then come back to comment on economics. Oh, and shave the neckbeard... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh my god, did you teach yourself economics or does it &quot;just come to you&quot; like mana from heaven?    Old Isk doesn&#039;t earn interest, and taxes on earnings are just that, taxes on new isk being inserted into the game thru legitimate practices.  NO ADDITIONAL ISK IS MADE, it doesn&#039;t appar out of thin air dip shit, it is a portion of the isk earned.    </p>
<p>CCP is after all aspects of RMT, so if they are involved in some way then they will suffer, tough shit.   </p>
<p>And as for why CCP doesn&#039;t like RMT, but they like PLEX?  Well gee Wilbur do ya think they might want to keep all the money earned by their product, their copyrights, and their hard work?  Yeah, I think I would too.  Go get a job, learn how bills and taxes work, then come back to comment on economics. Oh, and shave the neckbeard&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Eve-Items for Sale</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/10/15/the-nosy-gamer-ccp-sreegs-unleashed-2-0-in-his-own-words/comment-page-1/#comment-157199</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve-Items for Sale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 08:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I said I&#039;d give you a little taste... Why are you dropping dimes all of a sudden? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said I&#039;d give you a little taste&#8230; Why are you dropping dimes all of a sudden? </p>
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		<title>By: Eve-Items for Sale</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/10/15/the-nosy-gamer-ccp-sreegs-unleashed-2-0-in-his-own-words/comment-page-1/#comment-157194</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve-Items for Sale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 08:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They are just slowing the machine down...a little. They are Not, however stopping it. I&#039;ve had and continue to have 3 sites mirrored but with different GPU&#039;s and the bucks keep coming.  
 
And thanks to their own greediness with such incentives like PLEX&#039;s and the Power of 2, I and others like me have figured out why they REALLY hate us.....;););) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are just slowing the machine down&#8230;a little. They are Not, however stopping it. I&#039;ve had and continue to have 3 sites mirrored but with different GPU&#039;s and the bucks keep coming.  </p>
<p>And thanks to their own greediness with such incentives like PLEX&#039;s and the Power of 2, I and others like me have figured out why they REALLY hate us&#8230;..;););) </p>
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		<title>By: Dont be a carebear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dont be a carebear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most Bots Rat period end of story, HBOT needs 13 systems per Bot to be effective, but 1 system can house 20+ Miners 
 
So again most ISK is made by having missioners and plexers bu ships from ill gotten ore, and or huge capitol ventures like massive wars for Tech Moons, did you ever think where all that ISK went to to cost beating the NC? Or where all that ISK came from to build the NC and reap its Tech? Your telling me Bots made it all.....LOLOLOLOL ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most Bots Rat period end of story, HBOT needs 13 systems per Bot to be effective, but 1 system can house 20+ Miners </p>
<p>So again most ISK is made by having missioners and plexers bu ships from ill gotten ore, and or huge capitol ventures like massive wars for Tech Moons, did you ever think where all that ISK went to to cost beating the NC? Or where all that ISK came from to build the NC and reap its Tech? Your telling me Bots made it all&#8230;..LOLOLOLOL </p>
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		<title>By: Dont be a carebear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dont be a carebear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once more you are retarded. 
 
Look at the latest in Drama 800 gazilion in wallet of NCDOT that ISK has been slowly accumulated on the backs of the ratters since 05 damnit. 
 
Quit thinking ISK is only this years edition you nerd. 
 
Once you realise alot of us in Eve lets say Top 10% just like RL own more than the rest combined. Now with this old ISK they buy Ships mined from said &quot;Schlubs&quot;. 
 
You guys who act smart are worse by far. This is not like the real economy where they burn money at a high rate, ev`s taxes are miniscule, i nAmerica we have 40% overall tax in Netherlands 60% in Eve overall`s is 15% TOPS and if you are smart and amarket PVPer 2-4%. 
 
OLD MONEY IS MOR THAN ALL MONEY COMBINED BECAUSE IT COMPOUNDS INTEREST BUT NEVER IS TAXED LIKE RL. 
 
Wow, you need to be really looking at what he says. He is 100% right. For instance RMT happens over half of it with SC`s/Titans and not ISK at all.......BOT`s that Mine T1 mats do 90% of work and seller makes a few t2 parts and bam Titan a 1k product that is sold 15 per month on Ebay.  THERE IS A NO ISK TRADE 
 
He was 100% right most ISK is from hardworling schlubs then transferred or &quot;Stolen&quot; by them paying 10% less tax etc and therefore he is correct. 
 
How do you think Doom got 800 gazillion? Overtime made huge investments on WH corps, Huge hisec ratting corps and tax on rats over etc etc over a very very long time, thats what he means by most ISK is from working stiffs. How can you even deny that? 
 
Stop thinking every fiscal year ISK is reset to zero....Lol ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once more you are retarded. </p>
<p>Look at the latest in Drama 800 gazilion in wallet of NCDOT that ISK has been slowly accumulated on the backs of the ratters since 05 damnit. </p>
<p>Quit thinking ISK is only this years edition you nerd. </p>
<p>Once you realise alot of us in Eve lets say Top 10% just like RL own more than the rest combined. Now with this old ISK they buy Ships mined from said &quot;Schlubs&quot;. </p>
<p>You guys who act smart are worse by far. This is not like the real economy where they burn money at a high rate, ev`s taxes are miniscule, i nAmerica we have 40% overall tax in Netherlands 60% in Eve overall`s is 15% TOPS and if you are smart and amarket PVPer 2-4%. </p>
<p>OLD MONEY IS MOR THAN ALL MONEY COMBINED BECAUSE IT COMPOUNDS INTEREST BUT NEVER IS TAXED LIKE RL. </p>
<p>Wow, you need to be really looking at what he says. He is 100% right. For instance RMT happens over half of it with SC`s/Titans and not ISK at all&#8230;&#8230;.BOT`s that Mine T1 mats do 90% of work and seller makes a few t2 parts and bam Titan a 1k product that is sold 15 per month on Ebay.  THERE IS A NO ISK TRADE </p>
<p>He was 100% right most ISK is from hardworling schlubs then transferred or &quot;Stolen&quot; by them paying 10% less tax etc and therefore he is correct. </p>
<p>How do you think Doom got 800 gazillion? Overtime made huge investments on WH corps, Huge hisec ratting corps and tax on rats over etc etc over a very very long time, thats what he means by most ISK is from working stiffs. How can you even deny that? </p>
<p>Stop thinking every fiscal year ISK is reset to zero&#8230;.Lol </p>
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		<title>By: Bittervet</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/10/15/the-nosy-gamer-ccp-sreegs-unleashed-2-0-in-his-own-words/comment-page-1/#comment-157124</link>
		<dc:creator>Bittervet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Most ISK is made from hardworking sclubs getting market PVP`d and moon mining&quot; 
 
The stupid, it burns. 
 
Market PvP just moves isk around, from buyer to seller. It doesnt create isk. 
 
Moon mining creates moon goo, which creates ships and modules. Again, no isk. 
 
Isk is created by CCP giving it to you when you blow up a rat, complete a mission or hand in an item. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Most ISK is made from hardworking sclubs getting market PVP`d and moon mining&quot; </p>
<p>The stupid, it burns. </p>
<p>Market PvP just moves isk around, from buyer to seller. It doesnt create isk. </p>
<p>Moon mining creates moon goo, which creates ships and modules. Again, no isk. </p>
<p>Isk is created by CCP giving it to you when you blow up a rat, complete a mission or hand in an item. </p>
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		<title>By: Bittervet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bittervet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Nullsec sov is costly, you cannot support it without bots&quot; 
 
Then maybe you shouldnt hold it ? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Nullsec sov is costly, you cannot support it without bots&quot; </p>
<p>Then maybe you shouldnt hold it ? </p>
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		<title>By: &#039;Soap&#039; McTavish</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/10/15/the-nosy-gamer-ccp-sreegs-unleashed-2-0-in-his-own-words/comment-page-1/#comment-157107</link>
		<dc:creator>&#039;Soap&#039; McTavish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I heard a lot of rumors going around about Gentlemens Agreement - anyone know if any of the allegations about their rampant botting floating around have any foundations. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard a lot of rumors going around about Gentlemens Agreement &#8211; anyone know if any of the allegations about their rampant botting floating around have any foundations. </p>
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		<title>By: Eeehhhm&#039; NO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eeehhhm&#039; NO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the long run, on that we agree very much. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the long run, on that we agree very much. </p>
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		<title>By: BntyHunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>BntyHunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CFC is one of the worst offenders, not to say you know or participate but GSF are known to have zones of botting where they say &quot;Where are renting that space DO NOT RAT THERE OR YOU WILL BE KICKED&quot; 
 
They dont want a even light blue going there or anyone not in the botting corp to come in so there Bots cloak up. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CFC is one of the worst offenders, not to say you know or participate but GSF are known to have zones of botting where they say &quot;Where are renting that space DO NOT RAT THERE OR YOU WILL BE KICKED&quot; </p>
<p>They dont want a even light blue going there or anyone not in the botting corp to come in so there Bots cloak up. </p>
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		<title>By: BntyHunter</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/10/15/the-nosy-gamer-ccp-sreegs-unleashed-2-0-in-his-own-words/comment-page-1/#comment-157075</link>
		<dc:creator>BntyHunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol ROL is old news of botting.....Deklien Branch Tenal now are the areas least traveled by far look at high GSF terf, 35 jumps from x70 which is 15 from hisec......No one makes it there who isnt blue, almost ever. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol ROL is old news of botting&#8230;..Deklien Branch Tenal now are the areas least traveled by far look at high GSF terf, 35 jumps from x70 which is 15 from hisec&#8230;&#8230;No one makes it there who isnt blue, almost ever. </p>
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		<title>By: BntyHunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>BntyHunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not true not RMT comes from BOTS AT ALL, and ev if it did who cares where do plexs come from? CCP Snapping there fingers and making plexs [RMT chips] happen is the sameon the economy as a Bot making ISK, both have no human interaction, one makes CCP money 1 doesnt. 
 
Most ISK is made from hardworking sclubs getting market PVP`d and moon mining, alot of botting can contribute but if you account for botting much more is from mining. 
 
I totally agree with crackdown, and IMo they should severly hurt Alliances like GSF/SOLAR/AAA etc who have specific zones to put Belt Botts in, it so simple, pu a toon in one they will tell you where its safe to Bot and they make 10% isk of it so it makes em filthy rich. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not true not RMT comes from BOTS AT ALL, and ev if it did who cares where do plexs come from? CCP Snapping there fingers and making plexs [RMT chips] happen is the sameon the economy as a Bot making ISK, both have no human interaction, one makes CCP money 1 doesnt. </p>
<p>Most ISK is made from hardworking sclubs getting market PVP`d and moon mining, alot of botting can contribute but if you account for botting much more is from mining. </p>
<p>I totally agree with crackdown, and IMo they should severly hurt Alliances like GSF/SOLAR/AAA etc who have specific zones to put Belt Botts in, it so simple, pu a toon in one they will tell you where its safe to Bot and they make 10% isk of it so it makes em filthy rich. </p>
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		<title>By: BntyHunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>BntyHunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im sorry guy i hate botters but CCP only cares about it making honest players mad that they have to work hard and the botter doesnt. They really have made very little effort before to find them. 
 
Im sorry to disagree I hate botters my self but botters make our market stable as of now and if they stopped altogether mining you would se hisec mats go x3 in price. 
 
Its been said many times and is true botting doesnt bother CCP they make money on it, buy those botter creating Titans and Caps out of easy to access raw mats and that person who needs a carrier to buy 2 plexs. 
 
Now that the Misioning combat Bots are injecting direct ISK in pilots pockets it has become a problem for CCP but still not to a point where they make more on mining bots than Belt/Ratting/Missioning bots. 
 
But its getting close to where its making CCP lose money once that starts you will see just like whatother games do and a hardcore anti botting program that predicts human movement vs repeatative ones will come into play. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im sorry guy i hate botters but CCP only cares about it making honest players mad that they have to work hard and the botter doesnt. They really have made very little effort before to find them. </p>
<p>Im sorry to disagree I hate botters my self but botters make our market stable as of now and if they stopped altogether mining you would se hisec mats go x3 in price. </p>
<p>Its been said many times and is true botting doesnt bother CCP they make money on it, buy those botter creating Titans and Caps out of easy to access raw mats and that person who needs a carrier to buy 2 plexs. </p>
<p>Now that the Misioning combat Bots are injecting direct ISK in pilots pockets it has become a problem for CCP but still not to a point where they make more on mining bots than Belt/Ratting/Missioning bots. </p>
<p>But its getting close to where its making CCP lose money once that starts you will see just like whatother games do and a hardcore anti botting program that predicts human movement vs repeatative ones will come into play. </p>
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