Comments on: Poetic Discourse: Kill Rights – A Kinder, Gentler Highsec

By: Cozenn

Cozenn — Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:31:10 +0000

It seems pretty simple, Hi Sec space is just that, if you don't want swarm style vengeance against you don't come to Hi Sec and fuck up.

Reminds me of old timey town justice, where there was maybe a Sherriff (CONCORD), but everyone in the town was armed too for direct action against a perp. If you were an outlaw you would probably stay the hell out of that town and go back to the lawless lands. Let the carebears have Hi-sec, the rest of space is open for interpretation.

By: Guest

Guest — Wed, 17 Oct 2012 01:17:00 +0000

Bounties won't payout in full. You only get a small percentage of the ship loss, expected to be 20percent

By: Truthfulness

Truthfulness — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:06:04 +0000

Gankers aren't typically looking for good fights, they are looking for easy kills

By: Almost forgot

Almost forgot — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:05:22 +0000

And isk fountain faction warfare

By: Hmm face

Hmm face — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:04:38 +0000

Lowsec already has level 5s dear

By: Happy Man

Happy Man — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:03:23 +0000

I love it, all I hear in this article is him whining that gankers will get ganked, it's priceless.

By: Smiling Joe

Smiling Joe — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:01:07 +0000

And if you are so high on pvp, i have an idea, go to 0.0. Oh wait, you may have to actually face somebody that has weaponry to fire back. Those complaining are hisec cowards, come to 0.0, i'll gladly greet you and send you back free of charge.

By: Smiling Joe

Smiling Joe — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:58:50 +0000

Your tears are so so sweet, keep em coming. You say that hisec is becoming all reward little risk, but in reality ur upset that ganking is no longer going to be as high of a reward v risk venture. The exact thing you claim is happening with this isn't why ur butt hurt, it's the opposite. Tears, so sweet, so sweet indeed.

By: Devore

Devore — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 06:33:59 +0000

Wow, Poetic has turned into a real douche.

These new kill right changes simply add the missing element of risk to the heretofore riskless activity of ganking. No, for the millionth time, losing your ship to Concord/losing sec status is not risk.

By: dikreathz

dikreathz — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 06:07:04 +0000

ganiking gankers more fights, carebears get revenge and thus closure, you want a fight check local for kill rights that are availible, if not gank soon ppl will come to you, its great! Cannibal troll system for gankers

By: dikreathz

dikreathz — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 06:01:53 +0000

yes the change for retribution — positive standings can still be bountied, shifting kill rights (bouty + kill right hmmm) gankers are gonna find high sec to be rougher but they'll also find more good fights now

By: :cripes:

:cripes: — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:02:21 +0000

all i got from this article was "im mad bro".

By: complainerssuck

complainerssuck — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 14:48:41 +0000

all sounds fine to me. High sec is supposed to be like this. If you want gudfights go to low or null. Low risk isk is the birthright of highsec. Hey, its the LEAST you can do for people who are honestly satisfied flying freight everywhere as their 'game'. I see this 'profession' should be as safe as highsec mining, or ratting. So as everyone is going to 'get a job' to pay for their other alts to pvp anyway, I don't see a problem here.

By: John Douche

John Douche — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 07:40:37 +0000

No one but CCP talks about "legally". As if it mattered what CONCORD allows and what not. It is CCP in all their glorious stupidity. Players will keep playing EVE the way they want it. You still have carebears, griefers, gankers, grunts, FCs, botters, NRDS, NBSI, etc. all in the game.

Also haulers don't get ganked for bounties. They get ganked for their cargo. When you put a bounty onto a hauler will it be paid out each time the ship gets ganked.

A freighter costs ~1.5B ISK. To gank it does it cost ~500M ISK in ships. Once the pilot's bounty reaches ~2.5B ISK will it pay the gankers' expenses for 5 ganks in a row and the pilot can give up hauling, because he will need 5 new freighters worth 7.5B ISK, not counting the loss of cargo.

This works for any type of ship class from freighters down to the little Itties. Any trader, who owns billions, can cripple his competition. And I am sure many will.

It will only need small bounties, because they keep adding up over time. All them hauler alts who never see a fight will carry large bounties eventually.

Do the math.

By: dreamersofreality

dreamersofreality — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 06:59:28 +0000

but that would mean people could actually Shoot back at them…….or even worse, they could LOSE the fight.

I agree tho, gankers and deccers need to learn that high sec is just that, HIGH SECURITY space, aka the non PvP zones or servers in other games. Low sec and Null sec is where PvP is always in the back of your mind in every activity you do out there. If high sec became a PvP free zone, that would be fine, but at the same time, remove level 3 and 4 missions (at least level 4's) from high sec and move them to low sec systems. This would be inline with the risk vs reward that makes EvE what it is. This would mean high sec would be a place for noobs to learn about the game in a save environment. Would also allow them to learn that if they want to make more isk, they will need to risk there ship.