Here is a battle report from this past Sunday’s action, hope you like it. Also there will always be “that guy” who will rage at the doctrine name, I know about SwiftCats – but that long german name is how DOT Bros actually call that fitting.
Battle Report: Superwaffe Tag des jüngsten Gerichtes a.k.a EloCats.
D7-ZAC solar system, like many other Tribute systems was being contested by GoonSwarm Federation and Co. who dropped SBUs in a continuation of what it seems to be a forever war in Tribute.
Famed FC Elo Knight, formed up a Naga/Tornado Tier 3 fleet to shoot the SBUs and hopefully provoke a fight. It didn’t took long for the DOT brothers to actually “get it”, Lazarus Telraven (LazTel) from GoonSwarm Federation had formed up a sizable Alpha Maelstrom fleet which showed up and proved to be too much for Elo’s fleet. So the retreat order was given to the DOT Brothers to hustle up to G5ED-Y (Vale of the Silent) for a reship.
Initially the doctrine of choice was going to be AHACs, but at the last minute Elo Knight decided to swap for the “Superwaffe Ishtars” and issued the order to buy up all the market orders and contracts for “Ishtars” in the Vale Market and stack sensor range dampener in the mids and light artillery on the highs.
The DOT Bros fleet was a bit perplexed out of this, other were intrigued. Still the new composition was formed in hassle and the new fleet bridged its way back toward D7-ZAC.
The plan was to get the Ishtars to assign the sentries to the FC (in this case Elo) who would call primaries (and thus engage the drones) while the rest of the fleer distributed the sensor dampeners along the enemy fleet Huggins and Maelstroms. Small tackle was to be dealt with the small artillery.
So the cyno goes in D7-ZAC just as the GoonSwarm Federation fleet was about to leave thought the H-W9TY. While they did stayed on the system, they didn’t warped to the cyno, something with Elo Knight had actually been expecting them to do. Finally Elo Knight gives up and decidedly warps his fleet to the H-W9TY gate at range.
Having landed on the gate, a bit of chaos ensued – the DOT Bros. FC ordered his fleet to assign the drones to him in order to focus primary – but this did not works. The drones start shooting at random things which is why on the video below you will hear the FC asking the fleet to scoop and assign drones several times. The other and more grave shortcoming was the lack of a logi anchor, the fleet logistics ships were asked to ancho Elo Knight at 20 – 30 km, something which proved a bad idea.
Still, Elo start calling primaries while secondary orders were issued to the Ishtars to focus sensor dampeners on specific targets (mostly GSF Recons), even with the ensuring chaos and unreliable focus fire you will be able to see in the video how fast those Maelstroms started to drop. Meanwhile, LazTel started calling DOT Bros Lokis and Ishtars as primaries which manage to hold reps, then after losing a couple more ships the Goon FC notice the closeness of the enemy logistics (remember these had no anchor) and thus he calls them primary to good success. Laz was called primary several times, yet their logistic proved more than competent keeping him alive. Elo eventually go down and Ipsus (another Black Legion FC) takes over, the fight continues but in the end fleet the Ishtars had to disengage due having fewer logistics and the fear of being hot-dropped with SlowCats, still definitely a good fight from both sides and is nice to see some variation on the doctrines used.
Video
Thanks to Pink Fuzz for the video and the battle report hints:
BR Doctor Battle Summary
NCDOT Killboard
Oh yeah, D7-ZAC was saved, just in case you were wondering…
- R
First in to say man "This is such a lopsided BR, " God Eve 24 you obviously dont care about the truth onl spreading how Elite you are and how you think your Big Zoo animals……Lions.
God this site is so unbalanced towards the Spartan/Lions/Somesort of Jungle cat.
//Sarcasm off
FYI these Ishtars are no Elo`s creation before GSF blames there new losses on Elo again. They are an old version of the Herd-Damp Domi minus the reps and cap transfer.
CH used em, we used to fight 2-300 NC guys with 50 and the second the Logui took fire we had our EC30-600`s jam the shit out of he enemy. Best is 100 man Fleet leaveeing 50 sentries out 20 spread ECM drones and 30 Warrior 2`s…..Watch there entire logi network melt due to no warping off.
Really any doctrine works if you have 100 + guys old out and listening to orders, I could make a Ham-Cerb Team murder bs`s even as long as pilots know what they are doing and bring support, all about planning which we do great on our feet, we were back to g5 and reshipped in 12 mins, GSF couldnt tell there allies what new ship types were in 12 mins and they only have 3 types, we have many…..Nado,Naga.Rohk.Heropest.ArtyMael.Tengu.Loki.Prot.lonZeal/CloseZeal/Abby and the list goes on
Dude if you are in the CFC and you don't leave you only have yourself to blame. You don't need to be a useless EvE player but if you choose to be in a hopeless coalition when you could easily leave, who's fault is it? Not EvE News.
I totally agree…..But they have something we dont have……OSAMA GOON LADEN, hes a major attraction.
Mittens reallys is jus like him, he rarely comes out of hiding, when he does he is killed instantly by Eve`s special ops….He gets other Networks to do his dirty work and die for him then he takes the credit
OMG MIttens really is Osama Goon Laden, hides in caves makes others die for hi mand even fail cascade, then tells them they will have a place in gooonie heaven……And he takes all the money/ISK/Power…..
ALL HAIL CESAR!!!! wait
Zieg Hiel!!! Nope
ALALALALALA OSAMA GOON LADEN………ALLAH AKBAR
Please stop shitting up every comment section.
Thanks.
Please make a account so you dont have t pussy out on your remarcks. I have an 88, with some bad feedbackbut im man enough to make an account [takes 2minutes] so this must mean you wan tto be anon because you are a shitposter…..
Make an account or STFU, In my world no account= no voting, theres a reason Kugu is so honored, huys/trls like you cant sit there and hide behind fake names then act like 20 people. Unless they create 20 accounts…..So creat an account and show me how good posting is.
Stop being a Anom pussy and make a 2 minute name that keeps track of your good and bad posts…Its so easy to say stop shit posting when you have no recourse……Pussy
Make a account or STFU, I have an 88, you would have a ? Oh thats right you act like 10 people …Lol
I would rather read 20 of his posts than one from a CFC member.
Ty Poaster They are so brainwashed its funny.
And he unplugs his modem and clears cache like 4 times to get new votes
Either way I dont care about anoms who keep changing there names. You at least I recognize, but I do wish you signed up so no one could use your name.
Best story is how we almost bumpbed a carrier out of his own pos uing a BO gang that would called for more backup then we would have dropped hard on them….He barely made it
Who the Hell is responsible for that image? Were the DOT Bros fighting the DekCo or the HBC? And why did we use the ISK totals from NCDot's KB that don't even reflect the total number of ships destroyed?
VERSUS! VERSUS! VERSUS!
Feel free to send me the "right isk" totals, but please justify them.
R
I'm not gonna do your job for you, and I wasn't at the fight, so I have no clue what was actually lost. However, having seen that BR Doctor summary (which, while it's apparently vanished, seems to be where you pulled most of your numbers from), the DOTBro losses easily exceeded 2.08B on the T3 and Oneiros losses alone, based on the market values for the hulls. I didn't bother trying to tally the losses beyond that, or the stuff on the CFC/HBC/DekCo/whoeverthefuck side.
I mean, it's a neat little graphic, don't get me wrong. I like shiny things. But, at least *try* to get it right.
No, you won't do it because you have been called out. Check the killboards closely, check the losses on each side.
The ncdot kb is accurate enough. I'll keep using it until i find something better.
No, because I'm lazy.
Look, your image quotes 50 DekCo destroyed against 42 DOTBros destroyed. NCDot's KB link you posted lists 60 CFC ships destroyed to 19 ships lost (along with the ISK values you used). How in the fuck is that "accurate enough"? Hell, you don't even have to be right; just be consistently wrong.
Hey man, you are using an alliance killboard on a block fight BR, it doesn't work that way, i tought you understood that a long time ago : Alliance killboard only put alliance mate losses on the Br.
Check your NC. killboard link and find me a non NCdot loss ? got it ?
Need Solar fleet's killboard. I don't know how they did it but it is really damn good.
Makes no sense to use an Alliance's KB as it doesn't show all kills. http://www.eve-razor.com/killboard/?a=kill_relate… shows it completely different, and no.. I won't say that it's accurate and some folks are counted in the wrong fleet for being on blue kills apparently. And of course allied losses aren't on it..
But it already does show RZR's losses and their kills to NC.
116 NC.& Friends Ships killed (22.62B ISK) Quite a bit more than 2bil…?
22 -RZR- Ships lost (4.13B ISK)
I'd just refrain from using killreports till a "Neutral" kb, EVE-Kill.net is available again. But its your site so its up to you. This just makes something that is a very cool feature look really dumb.
well this one ship was almost 2b http://gyazo.com/0336721c3ed0128edb1a4732bf3f6f35 so the rest of the ships cost next to nothing? but wait http://gyazo.com/a9dbdffd132bbf526c51087a823b8cf5 do all these ships cost nothing cuz if if my math is even close thats well above 2.08 bill
the first kill is form the wrong fight numnuts lol
Eve kill is better and isn't run by your alliance, so shelters you from accusations of bias (which are totally unfounded, right)
http://northern-coalition.co.uk/?a=kill_related&a… so unless our allies lost more ships then us I doubt it was much higher then 5-6 bil.
Wow…you're willing to be a bitch but the second someone calls you out you vag out with the "I'm not gonna do your job for you" bit. *slow clap* Bravo good sir, bravo.
first of all, the "HBC" as they like to call themselves is part of DekCo aka CFC aka Goons
CFC + HBC = DekCo
They are forever stuck in the 69 position. Yes the base from different parts of the map but make no mistake, they are perma blue to each other. So it really is one giant mega coalition.
Yeah dude, that´s the real reason why 95% of the HBC are neut/red to the CFC.
You REALLY got it! YOU are the Master!
Oh but the masters are still blue. Your just mad because it isn't your hand jerking mittens dick.
I call BS here. Last week I saw testies in CFC fleets in taisy
And the 95% of HBC that are not blue to the CFC are attacking their sov or tech moons?
Not really…
Why should they? They're not idiots like the dottie bros.
+1
It is obvious that goontards have a problem with the fact that alpha fleet WAS sub-cap "I-win" button … years ago, and now it's highly ineffective against any fc that has a bit of brain.
And even worse, they dont understood that numbers are just numbers, its not halfway victory, numbers are just a blob of retards where everyone is shooting his own target, and sometimes they hit the same target.
Oh, you mean it´s the same thing after NC./Raiden/WN loosing their I-Win Button aka Supers in the past?
Lol NC had those IWINS way before anyone else did, and in 100`s of numbers also.
Now they jut made Supers perfect for Goons, structure killing only
just the way Goons like it because they never have to have skill to use them, but as you can see you still need skill not to lose them ….LOL
ALl they did was make Small elite 50 man allies with 10 SC`s that hotdropped unviable……Now the IWIN BUTTON is what? NUMBERS BITCH, can twait till those get nerfed.
Wait a moment and look at that beautiful "Blob Index" Picture.
So, when the Blob Index shows 3:2 for NC.+Friends it´s called "fair" and if it shows 1,5:1 for the CFC its "uneven".
Now the last cock must realise Riverini plays in NC. and for the benefit of all… He MUST stop doing Battlereports.
When did it say fair? when it was 3:2? Can you please link that, thx
Ishtars AKA Fastcats
no, there is NOTHING fast about these and PL called them "swift" cats.
We called them Ishatars with Damps
Not as cool, also until our guy Elise came to PL they didnt have any cool names
ths is why there killboard doesnt reflex what actually happened as they get on killmails that should be loss mail, if you are interested go look at the nc. killboard, now ask yourself why they are doinok yes im in cfc but i have been noticing this for a while, it seems nc. like to shoot there own when they are going down etc
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_reco…
g this? it so there fcs, leadership and evenews24 can say hey look we won or it was a draw, like they are saying now when if you look at all the involved partys killboards you will see they lost this fight
Thats smartbomb damage,used to clear drones and negate incomeing missiles. Our Fcs cant possibly multi task like DBRB,calling targets,adjusting his route and locking up his own peeps to get on the km would just be to much for our poor fc.
Lol at least we use smartbombs you guys actually whore mails when supers are dying…Lol
NC. has to make sure killboard is green.
We dont need smarty kills, we have Titans and Hel`s and Aeon`s oh yeah and Fleets, 7/10 fleet fight we win1/10 we leave 2/10 we are outnumbered so badly [7-8:1] we lose our supprt fast before they do and we leave.
We actually camp you in UMi station now….ROFL with 80 guys no less and you had 240, I have been there 2 times, your own FOB [base for war] and we camp you in with 80 guys.
They tend to appear on their own mails in the ahac fleets because of the smartbombs. That being said there are a few people who will appear on friendly mails anyway, but that happens for most alliances.
Hint, never good idea to whine about a KB then use battle clinic….LOL, worst ever
I agree the smarties got em mixed but it was still a clear victory. And even without it by the words of Osama Goon Laden "Twas a tactical victory"
how does it feel to be called stupid by your peers?
omfg, when does this killboard fiasco stops?
for me it seems that everyone should be interested in clear and correct results of a fight
can´t ccp put up a killboard which excludes friendly fire?
on every killboard you can see which player is in which corp/alliance, it can´t be that hard(actually i have no idea if it is hard or not) to just NOT count the kill for the own "team" when just one guy puts some kind of aggression on the own member!
there has to be one killboard that rules them all^^
1,)only API veryfied kills are possible (not even an option to manually post kills)
2.)killboard should check if there is aggression from own corp/alliance/fleet to not count it to the own fleet 3.)except the majority of the dmg comes from the own fleet(own team/side)
4.) ofcourse you should get on the killmail even if it is your own corpmember, but not in battlereports
5.) for pilots not in fleet/corp/alliance there should be a 2nd section with unrelated pilot wich will be put into the fleet he made the most damage for
6.) everyone who is not API veryfied in this killboard should just shut the fuck up
"the one killboard which rules them all"
problem solved, no more whining in evenews24 about fake killboards and stuff
everyone is happy and gets fine results, no one is able to make fake killboard propaganda
do you think thats possible?
p.s.: sry for the lotr part, but it just came out while typing, wasnt intended^^
EVENEWS24 is NC.'s only attempt at moral boosting propaganda.
No bitch its called reporting. You lost a battle and it got posted why fucking cry about it like a little bitch? Win a fight for once and it'll be posted but as of now you guys are shit.
and the shittani is the only way CFC members read the "real" news and when i say "real" i totally mean that shit shittani makes up and spews out to his members.
just sayin…
So why dont you report a real BR then? Oh thats right you wernt there or you lost badly to a new fleet comp and are instructed to say EVE24 sucks……POST YOU CFC LOSERS POST AWAY
Why should we have to pst our few losses when we have 7:10 w/l ratio
Seriously if we posted everytime we killed 50 or more ships we would have 200 Articles by now where we lost almost nothing.
Also WTF would anyone wanna read.
"There we were in our 800 Drakes at a Gate ready to have the FC fleet warp us, then we were ready with our orbit on anchor and F1 commands ready to go….Then we were warped and….BAM F1x800" it was eoic and very exciting I was low on SHields once and askedfor reps and actually got them, then I was primaried and didnt warp off because obviously we orbit anchor and I died….>EPIC BATTLE IS EPIC"
Seriously River will never turn down a BR its just the only guys who will do them cant because Mittens said they would be kicked if they gave info to Eve24 before Mitt.com
Send or hekk POST A REAL REBUTTAL
I thought we were calling them FastCats? I am so confused.
they are swiftcats. NC. were flying them with PL in the solar purge (albeit against tengu and maels at the time).
So far kills show more than 120 NCBros killed, and you cannot count 250 CFC because they were not… lots of ppl reshipped and rejoined fight. One more win for CFC.
shut it cunty, face the facts
Cry Havoc did use these back in 07-08
They wroked great, but we never named them cool names.