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Jester’s Trek: Quote of the Week – “No going back”

This week’s QOTW is one of those lines that may be interesting only to me.  Hell, I’d be interested to see if anyone else even caught it.  But it got my attention and gave me something to think about over the weekend:

This is regrettable, but we’re absolutely not going back down the rabbit hole and re-complicating the new system to solve comparatively minor imbalances, because the overall cost is just not worth it.

The quote is CCP Masterplan, from the recent dev-blog regarding the new Crimewatch system.  The context of the quote are the downsides of working on an entirely new CW system as opposed to rebuilding or redesigning the old one.  What’s “regrettable” in this context is the fact that CCP devs had to break the old system to install the new one… but now that the new one’s in place, there will be no going back.

This caught my attention because it’s the third time this sentiment has come up from CCP devs this year, using almost identical language each time: this, the AI upgrade I wrote about last month, and the unified inventory system from earlier this year.  In all three cases, we’ve been told “the old system is broken and there’s no sense crying for it because it isn’t coming back.”  The message is so consistently worded and delivered each time that I have hard time believing it isn’t in CCP Unifex‘s or CCP Soundwave‘s play-book somewhere.

In an amusing way, it’s sort of a preemptive shot across the bow to anyone thinking about starting another summer of rage. 

But is this a new sentiment in CCP’s way of working?  That’d be a no.  Remember when the old fitting window was tossed in favor of the new circular one?  Here’s what the old one looked like, in case you’ve forgotten or have never seen it:

Yeah, it’s hideous.  For some of you, maybe that’s the first time you’ve seen that interface, but that’s how we fit ships in EVE for a lot of years.  But the player rage when CCP threatened to take away that interface in favor of the current one was terrible to behold.  Ditto of course, when the transition from the old portraits to the new portraits happened.  Lots of players simply refused to create new characters using the tools until they were absolutely forced to and there are still a goodly number of “grey heads” in the database if you know where to look.  CCP pushed that change through over player objections, too.

Matter of fact, the one and only time I can remember CCP backing down once they made a decision to go forward with something was… you guessed it… the summer of rage last year and the micro-transaction plans that caused it.  Even then, CCP was very much pushing a “This is how things are going to go, this is the way forward and there’s no going back.” position.  Only that time, there was.  And for about a year after that, a little more humility was a way of life in Reyk.

That year seems to be over now.  Will history eventually repeat itself?  I don’t think so, but it sure was interesting to see that quote!  Anyway, like I said, this may be an item that’s of interest only to me.

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18 Comments

  1. observer

    They are the devs after all, they will do what the deem is in the best interest for CCP. I am glad they dont cave into every little whining post though. Eve needs to change and update, or it will just be stagnant and people wont have anything to look forward to, speculate on, or bitch about

    October 9, 2012 at 5:03 pm Reply
    1. M1k3y

      Yet they caved on bringing HML damage into line

      October 9, 2012 at 10:01 pm Reply
  2. enquirer

    whats the name of the fitting tool used for the top of this artical i seen it a few months back and lost it…..
    thanks

    October 9, 2012 at 6:23 pm Reply
    1. It was an earlier build CCP had of the current fitting window, i liked it more tbh…

      here is the hd img:
      http://i.imgur.com/ANLAc.jpg

      October 9, 2012 at 6:52 pm Reply
      1. enquirer

        there was a browser based fitting tool what looked similar there was an article about it but i couldn't find it

        October 9, 2012 at 7:03 pm Reply
        1. infoprovider

          you are looking for this http://null-sec.com/hangar/

          October 9, 2012 at 9:22 pm Reply
      2. Angrytaco

        I would have been as happy with that as I am with the current fitting window

        October 10, 2012 at 4:55 pm Reply
  3. John Douche

    TL;DR: He gloats over the mistakes made by CCP.

    October 9, 2012 at 6:40 pm Reply
    1. YourDumb

      Yeah…you DR…because if you had you'd know that isn't what he did.

      October 10, 2012 at 4:05 am Reply
      1. YOU'REDUMBIMEANT

        DOH!!!!

        October 10, 2012 at 4:05 am Reply
      2. John Douche

        To gloat:
        - To feel or express great, often malicious, pleasure or self-satisfaction
        - dwell on with satisfaction
        - dwell on with malevolent smugness or exultation
        - gaze at or think about something with great self-satisfaction, gratification, or joy
        - to look at or think about with great or excessive, often smug or malicious, satisfaction

        Just some of the definitions for gloating, which you can find in various dictionaries.

        Reading his article do I see how he dwells over the past and the mistakes made by CCP and that he takes a bit of amusement and satisfaction out of it.

        He is gloating.

        October 10, 2012 at 9:47 am Reply
  4. madness

    And don't forget the first true mega rage. Missile rebalance.

    October 9, 2012 at 9:50 pm Reply
  5. lol

    I want my old hanger/inventory windows back!

    October 9, 2012 at 10:27 pm Reply
    1. DarthNefarius

      I want my old chat windows that minimalized to the bottom of the screen instead of hiding away in the NEOCOM

      October 10, 2012 at 2:10 am Reply
    2. Yep

      shift click the hangar you want and drag it…oh look it becomes its own window…

      October 10, 2012 at 2:04 pm Reply
  6. Guest

    I think the problem is CCP is very bad at communication.
    They serve up small parts of info usually only the bad parts,leave out the vision they can see from where they sit and know.
    I think its a reflection probably from internal top down corporate culture,might work when people get paid to accept it doesnt work as good when people are paying you.
    Also the day nobody whines or rages is the day eve is truly dead because nobody cares anymore.

    October 9, 2012 at 11:09 pm Reply
  7. there was a browser based fitting tool what looked similar there was an article about it but i couldn't find it

    October 11, 2012 at 8:09 am Reply
  8. whats the name of the fitting tool used for the top of this artical i seen it a few months back and lost it…..

    October 15, 2012 at 7:28 am Reply

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