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	<title>Comments on: Eve Vegas &#8211; Bots and Security, leaders to be accountable for permitting renters/corps botting.</title>
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		<title>By: Not Bored</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not Bored</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 22:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you find the game as &#039;&#039;boring as shit&#039;&#039; (your words) then please feel free to fuck off and play another game rather than promoting cheating. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you find the game as &#039;&#039;boring as shit&#039;&#039; (your words) then please feel free to fuck off and play another game rather than promoting cheating. </p>
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		<title>By: -a- dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>-a- dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 04:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[we used to make bluetacklers and go hunt bots. Use a old low sp cyno char, kill 1-5 tengus, sell the loot, delete the char, repeat. Then XxX_UA_DEATH_XxX crap empire died and bots went away...the non blue anyway.  
 
&quot;Right now EULA says that if you knowingly interact with botters you are responsible.&quot; 
 
well, griefing/extorting isk  from them is kind of interacting, no? 
or am i totally missing the context here... :S ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we used to make bluetacklers and go hunt bots. Use a old low sp cyno char, kill 1-5 tengus, sell the loot, delete the char, repeat. Then XxX_UA_DEATH_XxX crap empire died and bots went away&#8230;the non blue anyway.  </p>
<p>&quot;Right now EULA says that if you knowingly interact with botters you are responsible.&quot; </p>
<p>well, griefing/extorting isk  from them is kind of interacting, no?<br />
or am i totally missing the context here&#8230; :S </p>
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		<title>By: Random Miner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Miner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 01:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[considering alot of the CCp guys have been in goonswarm before... I&#039;m betting they&#039;d rather not. Goonies always get their way... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>considering alot of the CCp guys have been in goonswarm before&#8230; I&#039;m betting they&#039;d rather not. Goonies always get their way&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Random Miner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Miner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 01:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[insanely funny if that&#039;s not bullshit ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>insanely funny if that&#039;s not bullshit </p>
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		<title>By: Random Miner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Miner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 01:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[there will be botting if making isk is fun or not. Alot of people bot and don&#039;t even play eve, it&#039;s more of an actual job for them.  
And it seems like CCp&#039;s big aim lately is to slow down how much ISK everyone is making, not make it easier to earn it, because they feel everyone is too ISK rich, so that aint happenin&#039; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there will be botting if making isk is fun or not. Alot of people bot and don&#039;t even play eve, it&#039;s more of an actual job for them.<br />
And it seems like CCp&#039;s big aim lately is to slow down how much ISK everyone is making, not make it easier to earn it, because they feel everyone is too ISK rich, so that aint happenin&#039; </p>
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		<title>By: Bored</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bored</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 00:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So why not fix the issue with the game being boring as shit to make any decent amount of isk in?  Most people bot because making money in EVE is incredibly boring and time wasting. There would hardly be any PVP anymore because people would have to spend every hour of their gametime ratting in belts.  FIX THE WAY WE MAKE MONEY CCP IF YOU WANT TO PUT A HUGE DENT IN BOTTING. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why not fix the issue with the game being boring as shit to make any decent amount of isk in?  Most people bot because making money in EVE is incredibly boring and time wasting. There would hardly be any PVP anymore because people would have to spend every hour of their gametime ratting in belts.  FIX THE WAY WE MAKE MONEY CCP IF YOU WANT TO PUT A HUGE DENT IN BOTTING. </p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 19:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ironically Apuppetmaster is in Goonswarm now ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ironically Apuppetmaster is in Goonswarm now </p>
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		<title>By: BntyHunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>BntyHunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you kidding me? When you tell a recruit, &quot;If you have a certain account who kills ratts on its own, just make sure its settings are right and even if its locked up by blues wont do anything back, rather have it cloak up, Also we have a special group of systems about 10 jumps away, where those guys who are up all day and all night &quot;DUal and Triple&quot; boxing these accounts, set aside for these guys, if you have such characters privately let  ****** know and you will have access to Run in the belts.&quot;  
  
That is a message I got from a guy after my Spy Alt asked about Botting. 
 
They have entire bot only systems and entire Clusters, where its mining Botts with Ratting Bots who keep mining bots safe....Look at certain dead drop items some are 200 mil then bame 20-30 mil, why because Botters flood markets. I was CEO and coul pick a botter out in 2 days, let alone ging north in high Branch and Dek and jumping in a system with 10 Tengu`s and 25 Ravens and the second you warpin, bam 35 guys log off, or half log off instantly and half cloak......Its so easy. 
 
And to punish the CEO`s etc who know about it dont care but make shitloads of isk is imprtant....Botters will always bot given a safe haven, and once drone regions went to bounties and GSF+Test will take anyone and Catch still has 0 moons some of these AAA renters are nothing but 1 guy with 20 accounts. If you let in a botter without screening them with API`s, yes it is your fault. Part of cost of having 1 billion blues....Finally a step in right direction. 
 ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding me? When you tell a recruit, &quot;If you have a certain account who kills ratts on its own, just make sure its settings are right and even if its locked up by blues wont do anything back, rather have it cloak up, Also we have a special group of systems about 10 jumps away, where those guys who are up all day and all night &quot;DUal and Triple&quot; boxing these accounts, set aside for these guys, if you have such characters privately let  ****** know and you will have access to Run in the belts.&quot;  </p>
<p>That is a message I got from a guy after my Spy Alt asked about Botting. </p>
<p>They have entire bot only systems and entire Clusters, where its mining Botts with Ratting Bots who keep mining bots safe&#8230;.Look at certain dead drop items some are 200 mil then bame 20-30 mil, why because Botters flood markets. I was CEO and coul pick a botter out in 2 days, let alone ging north in high Branch and Dek and jumping in a system with 10 Tengu`s and 25 Ravens and the second you warpin, bam 35 guys log off, or half log off instantly and half cloak&#8230;&#8230;Its so easy. </p>
<p>And to punish the CEO`s etc who know about it dont care but make shitloads of isk is imprtant&#8230;.Botters will always bot given a safe haven, and once drone regions went to bounties and GSF+Test will take anyone and Catch still has 0 moons some of these AAA renters are nothing but 1 guy with 20 accounts. If you let in a botter without screening them with API`s, yes it is your fault. Part of cost of having 1 billion blues&#8230;.Finally a step in right direction. </p>
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		<title>By: BntyHunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>BntyHunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol did I call this or what.....I am NasdraDOTnes 
 
Its simple as I said Power blocks like GSF who have entire areas for BOTS, need to lose SOV in game of that system if there is a strong pressence because w all know who`s a BOT and who isnt if he doesnt answer reply`s and Rattts 16 hours+ 
 
Also the Corp CEO should be fined HUGLY, to the point someone like GSF wouldfeel it. 
 
Why is it you dont see NCDOT having Botters? Number 1 is we dont have areas 35 jumps from NPC 00 sec that nvere every see a red, but mostly we screen very very well. 
 
Just like illegal immigrants getting hired and the employers acting sutpid like they didnt know, the Ali`sare the same thing....They make huge ISK on 10% of a 16-20 Hour Ratter, so they encourage it. 
 
Pop them and the botters dont have any more space to Bot in, and it makes them screen the shitout of there blob. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol did I call this or what&#8230;..I am NasdraDOTnes </p>
<p>Its simple as I said Power blocks like GSF who have entire areas for BOTS, need to lose SOV in game of that system if there is a strong pressence because w all know who`s a BOT and who isnt if he doesnt answer reply`s and Rattts 16 hours+ </p>
<p>Also the Corp CEO should be fined HUGLY, to the point someone like GSF wouldfeel it. </p>
<p>Why is it you dont see NCDOT having Botters? Number 1 is we dont have areas 35 jumps from NPC 00 sec that nvere every see a red, but mostly we screen very very well. </p>
<p>Just like illegal immigrants getting hired and the employers acting sutpid like they didnt know, the Ali`sare the same thing&#8230;.They make huge ISK on 10% of a 16-20 Hour Ratter, so they encourage it. </p>
<p>Pop them and the botters dont have any more space to Bot in, and it makes them screen the shitout of there blob. </p>
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		<title>By: TESTy</title>
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		<dc:creator>TESTy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would be really interesting to see the amount of bots banned and alliance names. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would be really interesting to see the amount of bots banned and alliance names. </p>
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		<title>By: Suzume</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wrong, Wrong, Wrong.  I am 100% against ANY violation of EULA or ToU.  However, if CCP with the tools at their disposal can&#039;t catch 100% of botters 100% of the time how can they expect alliance leadership personalities to know who the botters are to the extent of being held accountable for their existence? 
 
ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDDING ME?! 
 
How do people &#039;do research&#039; or &#039;do background&#039;?  HUH?!  DO YOUR OWN BACKGROUND! (check). 
 
POINT TO ME the IN GAME MECHANIC where an alliance leader can examine a prospective applicant corporation and GUARANTEE (NOT LIKELY, not check, not sorta, not good hunch) that they either ARE OR ARE NOT a botter?!!  
 
CCP needs to be very, very careful here or they&#039;re going to alienate large #s of people. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong, Wrong, Wrong.  I am 100% against ANY violation of EULA or ToU.  However, if CCP with the tools at their disposal can&#039;t catch 100% of botters 100% of the time how can they expect alliance leadership personalities to know who the botters are to the extent of being held accountable for their existence? </p>
<p>ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDDING ME?! </p>
<p>How do people &#039;do research&#039; or &#039;do background&#039;?  HUH?!  DO YOUR OWN BACKGROUND! (check). </p>
<p>POINT TO ME the IN GAME MECHANIC where an alliance leader can examine a prospective applicant corporation and GUARANTEE (NOT LIKELY, not check, not sorta, not good hunch) that they either ARE OR ARE NOT a botter?!!  </p>
<p>CCP needs to be very, very careful here or they&#039;re going to alienate large #s of people. </p>
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		<title>By: chessguy99</title>
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		<dc:creator>chessguy99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, nothing like having a Goon inside CCP, especially one in charge of dealing with players breaking the EULA. Sort of like having the fox guarding the hen-house. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, nothing like having a Goon inside CCP, especially one in charge of dealing with players breaking the EULA. Sort of like having the fox guarding the hen-house. </p>
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		<title>By: chessguy99</title>
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		<dc:creator>chessguy99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here it is : &lt;a href=&quot;http://d35dgn2pdc8wsn.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/01.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://d35dgn2pdc8wsn.cloudfront.net/wp-content/u...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here it is : <a href="http://d35dgn2pdc8wsn.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/01.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://d35dgn2pdc8wsn.cloudfront.net/wp-content/u" rel="nofollow">http://d35dgn2pdc8wsn.cloudfront.net/wp-content/u</a>&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: M1k3y</title>
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		<dc:creator>M1k3y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fanfest 2012. 
 
It was in one of the botting seminars, people asked to have bots shown on a pie graph by alliance, but CCP said we dont have that, but we have by region. 
Deklin was by far, throughout the year, the #1 region for botting. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fanfest 2012. </p>
<p>It was in one of the botting seminars, people asked to have bots shown on a pie graph by alliance, but CCP said we dont have that, but we have by region.<br />
Deklin was by far, throughout the year, the #1 region for botting. </p>
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		<title>By: Common</title>
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		<dc:creator>Common</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, NCDOT got rid of their notorious botting corp, they are clean now. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, NCDOT got rid of their notorious botting corp, they are clean now. </p>
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