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		<title>By: DarthNefarius</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/25/poetic-discourse-affording-all-the-things/comment-page-1/#comment-152117</link>
		<dc:creator>DarthNefarius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The armour Incursion community while not completely dead isall but dead. Even the shield Incursion communities are a shadowof what they once where and are shrinking. CCP took a successfull expansion &amp; nerfed it into near non existance with asingle patch. 
NULL lo SEC communities are completely dead now.  
 The DEVs don&#039;t have a clue about what the fuck they are doing in those parts of Eve they never play in. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The armour Incursion community while not completely dead isall but dead. Even the shield Incursion communities are a shadowof what they once where and are shrinking. CCP took a successfull expansion &amp; nerfed it into near non existance with asingle patch.<br />
NULL lo SEC communities are completely dead now.<br />
 The DEVs don&#039;t have a clue about what the fuck they are doing in those parts of Eve they never play in. </p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/25/poetic-discourse-affording-all-the-things/comment-page-1/#comment-151985</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although it&#039;s possible that nulli might move down there eventually. I don&#039;t see them hanging out in the back end of vale forever.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it&#039;s possible that nulli might move down there eventually. I don&#039;t see them hanging out in the back end of vale forever.  </p>
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		<title>By: LanFear</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/25/poetic-discourse-affording-all-the-things/comment-page-1/#comment-151953</link>
		<dc:creator>LanFear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 02:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The tards in ISN are claiming more than 100mil/hr in incursions now, why are you still whining?  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tards in ISN are claiming more than 100mil/hr in incursions now, why are you still whining?  </p>
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		<title>By: NullSecNoob</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/25/poetic-discourse-affording-all-the-things/comment-page-1/#comment-151935</link>
		<dc:creator>NullSecNoob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The game is not broken because someone own more SOV, better ships, and has more isk than you.  many smaller alliances and corps do quite well for themselves.  Find YOUR niche in the game and do it well.  I have yet to hear anyone complain about the vast riches wormhole alliances accumulate.  Billions of isk harvested every day and the pimped out ships would make most goon pilots green with envy.  They pay no SOV or upgrades, just farm them sleepers.  I have no animosity against them and I am sure there is more to their existence that simply farming sleeper anoms, but is there too much T3 material? And are they becoming too rich?   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The game is not broken because someone own more SOV, better ships, and has more isk than you.  many smaller alliances and corps do quite well for themselves.  Find YOUR niche in the game and do it well.  I have yet to hear anyone complain about the vast riches wormhole alliances accumulate.  Billions of isk harvested every day and the pimped out ships would make most goon pilots green with envy.  They pay no SOV or upgrades, just farm them sleepers.  I have no animosity against them and I am sure there is more to their existence that simply farming sleeper anoms, but is there too much T3 material? And are they becoming too rich?   </p>
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		<title>By: tldr...</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/25/poetic-discourse-affording-all-the-things/comment-page-1/#comment-151902</link>
		<dc:creator>tldr...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TLDR any of it just -neg 1 ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TLDR any of it just -neg 1 </p>
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		<title>By: seriously?</title>
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		<dc:creator>seriously?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Goon, you&#039;re an idiot.  You&#039;re saying that by making an administrative change (go from blobbing to just joining the same large alliance) somehow &#039;blobbers&#039; would gain credibility, like you? 
 
So, the UN or NATO are bad combat entities while China is a good example because they have naturally higher numbers? 
 
They *are* playing in a different style.  In fact you might say a handicapped style due to the inability to coordinate as intuitively as one larger organization.  That effectively makes a win by them even more glorious no?  Lots of idiots in one alliance vs. lots of idiots in many alliances acting as one alliance...  symantics. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goon, you&#039;re an idiot.  You&#039;re saying that by making an administrative change (go from blobbing to just joining the same large alliance) somehow &#039;blobbers&#039; would gain credibility, like you? </p>
<p>So, the UN or NATO are bad combat entities while China is a good example because they have naturally higher numbers? </p>
<p>They *are* playing in a different style.  In fact you might say a handicapped style due to the inability to coordinate as intuitively as one larger organization.  That effectively makes a win by them even more glorious no?  Lots of idiots in one alliance vs. lots of idiots in many alliances acting as one alliance&#8230;  symantics. </p>
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		<title>By: Bittervet</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/25/poetic-discourse-affording-all-the-things/comment-page-1/#comment-151898</link>
		<dc:creator>Bittervet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Justchecking, 
 
Quick bit of naval history for you.  
 
Torpedo boats have been able to take out capital ships since the invention of the torpedo. Capital ships have low-traversal main guns, so got more secondary batteries. 
 
An entire ship class, called &quot;torpedo boat destroyers&quot;, also gets designed to counter torpedo boats. 
 
Later, aircraft start to carry anti-capital torpedos as well, leading to even more screening small ships and secondary weapons. 
 
So, in short, STFU noob. The real one is the one where destroyer class ships can, will and do take out carriers. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justchecking, </p>
<p>Quick bit of naval history for you.  </p>
<p>Torpedo boats have been able to take out capital ships since the invention of the torpedo. Capital ships have low-traversal main guns, so got more secondary batteries. </p>
<p>An entire ship class, called &quot;torpedo boat destroyers&quot;, also gets designed to counter torpedo boats. </p>
<p>Later, aircraft start to carry anti-capital torpedos as well, leading to even more screening small ships and secondary weapons. </p>
<p>So, in short, STFU noob. The real one is the one where destroyer class ships can, will and do take out carriers. </p>
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		<title>By: someone</title>
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		<dc:creator>someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes but keep in mind if a large alliance takes 2 systems in a constellation you cant take an adjacent system as they&#039;ll just take it back again!!, and if they don&#039;t they&#039;ll just camp it! and destroy pos&#039;s so the system would end up costing you, DRF had large amount of systems unclaimed in the middle of drone region, every now and then a player would claim it.. day later back to being unclaimed. TBH i think step 1 is to make systems useful in some way, in that regard what are several activities you can do in a system, that would be mean alliance would need less space.. how ever i know it would not fix coalitions!!!, i commonly like checking regions and checking on NPC kills in the last 24h to see which systems are being used for ratting! 
how much does solar fleet use there territory! for 1k members they have alot!..  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes but keep in mind if a large alliance takes 2 systems in a constellation you cant take an adjacent system as they&#039;ll just take it back again!!, and if they don&#039;t they&#039;ll just camp it! and destroy pos&#039;s so the system would end up costing you, DRF had large amount of systems unclaimed in the middle of drone region, every now and then a player would claim it.. day later back to being unclaimed. TBH i think step 1 is to make systems useful in some way, in that regard what are several activities you can do in a system, that would be mean alliance would need less space.. how ever i know it would not fix coalitions!!!, i commonly like checking regions and checking on NPC kills in the last 24h to see which systems are being used for ratting!<br />
how much does solar fleet use there territory! for 1k members they have alot!..  </p>
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		<title>By: Draco</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/25/poetic-discourse-affording-all-the-things/comment-page-1/#comment-151886</link>
		<dc:creator>Draco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it works it works. Plenty of historic examples were a different style of fighting overcome a old one and the old guys considered the other side talentless. 
 
In this case I&#039;m reminded of the effect of the gun on warefare, were a bunch of guys with basic training could quiet effectively kill a bunch of knights who been trained for birth. 
 
Did it mean the well trained profession solider died out? Course not, but they adjusted there combat tactics and got there own bunch of basic trained guys with guns to complement there professionals. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it works it works. Plenty of historic examples were a different style of fighting overcome a old one and the old guys considered the other side talentless. </p>
<p>In this case I&#039;m reminded of the effect of the gun on warefare, were a bunch of guys with basic training could quiet effectively kill a bunch of knights who been trained for birth. </p>
<p>Did it mean the well trained profession solider died out? Course not, but they adjusted there combat tactics and got there own bunch of basic trained guys with guns to complement there professionals. </p>
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		<title>By: Goon since 93</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/25/poetic-discourse-affording-all-the-things/comment-page-1/#comment-151880</link>
		<dc:creator>Goon since 93</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s priceless. Fighting in a different style. Let&#039;s rename the blob right now. We&#039;re not blobbing we&#039;re fighting in a different style. Keep telling yourself whatever you have to. Your still a bunch of no talent fucks. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s priceless. Fighting in a different style. Let&#039;s rename the blob right now. We&#039;re not blobbing we&#039;re fighting in a different style. Keep telling yourself whatever you have to. Your still a bunch of no talent fucks. </p>
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		<title>By: indy</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/25/poetic-discourse-affording-all-the-things/comment-page-1/#comment-151878</link>
		<dc:creator>indy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just because an alliance is mainly made up of good pvpers does not mean that an alliance is good.  
 
if it came to pvp-skill and vet-bitternes I guess you could say that A or DOT or PL are the best but If we are talking about which alliance is the best in EVE (the game) than you have to agree that EVE consists of mining, missioning, isk making, sov, politics... erm... intelligence and yes, yes, your precious pvp and skills at it. The best alliance in the game of eve must be the one that achieves it&#039;s goals best and maintains itself in a way that gives confidence that it will keep achieving the goals it sets... based on the kind and amount of propaganda coming from goons and test and the influence map I think its fair to say that they (as alliances) may not be the best at pvp but in The Game of Eve are in a league of its own and the fact that raiden innit joined and Pl remains in HBC goes to show that their dominance is not threatened and A will likely within a year or less and russians in general will be on the loosing side for months and months to come  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just because an alliance is mainly made up of good pvpers does not mean that an alliance is good.  </p>
<p>if it came to pvp-skill and vet-bitternes I guess you could say that A or DOT or PL are the best but If we are talking about which alliance is the best in EVE (the game) than you have to agree that EVE consists of mining, missioning, isk making, sov, politics&#8230; erm&#8230; intelligence and yes, yes, your precious pvp and skills at it. The best alliance in the game of eve must be the one that achieves it&#039;s goals best and maintains itself in a way that gives confidence that it will keep achieving the goals it sets&#8230; based on the kind and amount of propaganda coming from goons and test and the influence map I think its fair to say that they (as alliances) may not be the best at pvp but in The Game of Eve are in a league of its own and the fact that raiden innit joined and Pl remains in HBC goes to show that their dominance is not threatened and A will likely within a year or less and russians in general will be on the loosing side for months and months to come  </p>
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		<title>By: Draco</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/25/poetic-discourse-affording-all-the-things/comment-page-1/#comment-151877</link>
		<dc:creator>Draco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Depends how you define terrible alliances really. Getting a huge blob of ships together take a fair bit of diplomatic skill and/or isk.  
 
There just fighting in a different style. Elite small groups be wise to consider ways to fight blobs or way they could get there own made if need be.  
 
For example do you have a high sec wing of miners/carebears that you could get in cruisers/battlecruisers? Or perhaps there some other alliances that dislike that blob that&#039;s worrying you? Failing that maybe you need some guys in stealth bombers. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends how you define terrible alliances really. Getting a huge blob of ships together take a fair bit of diplomatic skill and/or isk.  </p>
<p>There just fighting in a different style. Elite small groups be wise to consider ways to fight blobs or way they could get there own made if need be.  </p>
<p>For example do you have a high sec wing of miners/carebears that you could get in cruisers/battlecruisers? Or perhaps there some other alliances that dislike that blob that&#039;s worrying you? Failing that maybe you need some guys in stealth bombers. </p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/25/poetic-discourse-affording-all-the-things/comment-page-1/#comment-151876</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wikipedia notes that the giant oarfish is called &quot;king of herrings&quot; and &quot;rarely sighted&quot;.  
 
Sounds exactly like mitani tbh lol ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikipedia notes that the giant oarfish is called &quot;king of herrings&quot; and &quot;rarely sighted&quot;.  </p>
<p>Sounds exactly like mitani tbh lol </p>
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		<title>By: whatever</title>
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		<dc:creator>whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[in which world can you repair structural damage on a carrier without entering a drydock? :P ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in which world can you repair structural damage on a carrier without entering a drydock? <img src='http://evenews24.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: i love nullsec</title>
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		<dc:creator>i love nullsec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[stop the pos moonmining and let it be done by an actual player with a special moonminingship and redistribute the moons over all space so it is not grouped in a small area would solve alot. No more passive income. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stop the pos moonmining and let it be done by an actual player with a special moonminingship and redistribute the moons over all space so it is not grouped in a small area would solve alot. No more passive income. </p>
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