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	<title>Comments on: Dev Post: [Winter] Attack Cruisers + Missile Rebalance</title>
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		<title>By: meskia</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/18/dev-post-winter-attack-cruisers-missile-rebalance/comment-page-1/#comment-164983</link>
		<dc:creator>meskia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what you brabling about??? heavy mis gets nerfed a little so what? all the others get buffed, woe 20% more ammo using with missions , what a game breaking evtn this will be {sarcarsm} ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what you brabling about??? heavy mis gets nerfed a little so what? all the others get buffed, woe 20% more ammo using with missions , what a game breaking evtn this will be {sarcarsm} </p>
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		<title>By: meskia</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/18/dev-post-winter-attack-cruisers-missile-rebalance/comment-page-2/#comment-164981</link>
		<dc:creator>meskia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ye nice , flying my missions with tech2 ammo anyway ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ye nice , flying my missions with tech2 ammo anyway </p>
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		<title>By: SmilingPolitely</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/18/dev-post-winter-attack-cruisers-missile-rebalance/comment-page-2/#comment-164978</link>
		<dc:creator>SmilingPolitely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have a bloody cry why don&#039;t you, wah, wah, nerf, cry, wah, bitch, complain, you long term players make me sick!  
Poor little baby has to adapt and change the way they play, wah, wah, my heart bleeds for you. 
It&#039;s not the steep learning curve or complex gameplay that turns new players away from eve, it&#039;s browsing forum posts full of childish, illiterate, spoilt brats! I&#039;m a noob/newbie/target and I love the game but the endless rivers of tears and moaning bore me to tears! 
Be sure not to look me up, fly stupid! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a bloody cry why don&#039;t you, wah, wah, nerf, cry, wah, bitch, complain, you long term players make me sick!<br />
Poor little baby has to adapt and change the way they play, wah, wah, my heart bleeds for you.<br />
It&#039;s not the steep learning curve or complex gameplay that turns new players away from eve, it&#039;s browsing forum posts full of childish, illiterate, spoilt brats! I&#039;m a noob/newbie/target and I love the game but the endless rivers of tears and moaning bore me to tears!<br />
Be sure not to look me up, fly stupid! </p>
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		<title>By: Tatay</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/18/dev-post-winter-attack-cruisers-missile-rebalance/comment-page-2/#comment-164952</link>
		<dc:creator>Tatay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dont touch heavy missiles please!!! :( ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont touch heavy missiles please!!! <img src='http://evenews24.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: Zen Dad</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/18/dev-post-winter-attack-cruisers-missile-rebalance/comment-page-2/#comment-164308</link>
		<dc:creator>Zen Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is great.  more PvP targets now for my Pilgrim and perhaps even now a chance at a fair fight against all you missile jockeys with no Cap problems..... suffer!@! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great.  more PvP targets now for my Pilgrim and perhaps even now a chance at a fair fight against all you missile jockeys with no Cap problems&#8230;.. suffer!@! </p>
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		<title>By: Successful Troll</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/18/dev-post-winter-attack-cruisers-missile-rebalance/comment-page-2/#comment-153076</link>
		<dc:creator>Successful Troll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 09:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A missile nerf?  So they will actually be used less now vOv ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A missile nerf?  So they will actually be used less now vOv </p>
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		<title>By: asspound cake</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/18/dev-post-winter-attack-cruisers-missile-rebalance/comment-page-2/#comment-151342</link>
		<dc:creator>asspound cake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 14:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spelling, not grammar, but props for spelling &#039;grammar&#039; correctly ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spelling, not grammar, but props for spelling &#039;grammar&#039; correctly </p>
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		<title>By: DRONX</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/18/dev-post-winter-attack-cruisers-missile-rebalance/comment-page-2/#comment-151305</link>
		<dc:creator>DRONX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 10:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Basicly nerfed just tech1 heavy missiles,tech2 boosted.Nerfed carebears,boosted pvp. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basicly nerfed just tech1 heavy missiles,tech2 boosted.Nerfed carebears,boosted pvp. </p>
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		<title>By: BntyHunter</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/18/dev-post-winter-attack-cruisers-missile-rebalance/comment-page-1/#comment-150765</link>
		<dc:creator>BntyHunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 05:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeayh except they made Caldari the no PVE no PVP race and Minni the both in almost every level of ship.....All we had was HML`s boats that made Cald great, Tengu in all forms, Rook, Caracal t1/t2 all gone and dead they might as well just pull missiles from game. 
 
Also Mids= Huge tracking, range, Etc thats a huge advantage its why the Napoc owns is its extra mid. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeayh except they made Caldari the no PVE no PVP race and Minni the both in almost every level of ship&#8230;..All we had was HML`s boats that made Cald great, Tengu in all forms, Rook, Caracal t1/t2 all gone and dead they might as well just pull missiles from game. </p>
<p>Also Mids= Huge tracking, range, Etc thats a huge advantage its why the Napoc owns is its extra mid. </p>
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		<title>By: BntyHunter</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/18/dev-post-winter-attack-cruisers-missile-rebalance/comment-page-1/#comment-150761</link>
		<dc:creator>BntyHunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 05:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This isnt just about the Drake, thisis about making an entire Race usless.  
  
As of now Drakes were onl ships used in PVP because they are cheap have solid tanks [but not BS tanks] and are fast enough and had enough range to kite things like ABBY`s.   
  
You tell me what Caldari ships we will see on the field after this patch? Naga+Rokh and thats it and they are basically only gonna be long range attack boats that eclipse a drake and its HML`s x10.  
  
Show me 1 viable Missile ship after this that can be use as a fleet. Hams Suck vs anything smaller than a BC and have a 15-17kish True range while the enemey at that range if in ABBy`s etc wil murder you with double DPS almost and Med ECM drones etc.  
  
Now AML Caracal`s will be more viable than the 310 DPS HML Cara`s now, AML`s will do 275 ish DPS but hit almost anything, but still be a very poor ship vs other cruisers esp Vaga`s etc, they dont have the speed, none of the cald ships hae the speed for Missiles without range.  
  
Cruise are horribly broken, and so slow at 150km [where there role is the enemy might take 1 volley before they warp off, at 200 like people claim the Raven can do its enough tme never to fight.  
  
Torps also are broken have terribad tracking by any standards, overall worse than Arty and ALWAYS THAT BAD, 450 Sig Raadius to hit LOL they do 1/16th DMG to most cruisers and MWD cruisers who take 1/2 DMG only get hit 1 time before they ou of range....Abby does everything better than Torp Boat.  
  
So they took the 1 missile group used heavily in PVP by the Rook, [Needs range] Caracal [needs range] Cerb [there own making of a missile sniper needs range and traded DMG for huge delay] and Tengu in all its carnations esp cloaky fits needs its ability to escape and use its ouny 270 DPS now what Cloaky Tengu goes down to very bottom at 230ish DPS.....Might as well fly a falcon, and yes in the PVE area the Tengu was never the fastest a CNR was but the Tengu was fast enough to leave but not OP, hell the Mach was almost as nimble as Drake does 900 gun DPS out to 20km and tracks very well.  
  
Nah thi nerf shows that missiles are broken, HML`s were only viable ones, and now they just killed a weapons system I so desperately wanted to love for years. They look so cool now but they are going o be SHIT 
 
Lastly please show me a blap/tracking dread for Cald, Yeah missiles are OP and or fine. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isnt just about the Drake, thisis about making an entire Race usless.  </p>
<p>As of now Drakes were onl ships used in PVP because they are cheap have solid tanks [but not BS tanks] and are fast enough and had enough range to kite things like ABBY`s.   </p>
<p>You tell me what Caldari ships we will see on the field after this patch? Naga+Rokh and thats it and they are basically only gonna be long range attack boats that eclipse a drake and its HML`s x10.  </p>
<p>Show me 1 viable Missile ship after this that can be use as a fleet. Hams Suck vs anything smaller than a BC and have a 15-17kish True range while the enemey at that range if in ABBy`s etc wil murder you with double DPS almost and Med ECM drones etc.  </p>
<p>Now AML Caracal`s will be more viable than the 310 DPS HML Cara`s now, AML`s will do 275 ish DPS but hit almost anything, but still be a very poor ship vs other cruisers esp Vaga`s etc, they dont have the speed, none of the cald ships hae the speed for Missiles without range.  </p>
<p>Cruise are horribly broken, and so slow at 150km [where there role is the enemy might take 1 volley before they warp off, at 200 like people claim the Raven can do its enough tme never to fight.  </p>
<p>Torps also are broken have terribad tracking by any standards, overall worse than Arty and ALWAYS THAT BAD, 450 Sig Raadius to hit LOL they do 1/16th DMG to most cruisers and MWD cruisers who take 1/2 DMG only get hit 1 time before they ou of range....Abby does everything better than Torp Boat.  </p>
<p>So they took the 1 missile group used heavily in PVP by the Rook, [Needs range] Caracal [needs range] Cerb [there own making of a missile sniper needs range and traded DMG for huge delay] and Tengu in all its carnations esp cloaky fits needs its ability to escape and use its ouny 270 DPS now what Cloaky Tengu goes down to very bottom at 230ish DPS&#8230;..Might as well fly a falcon, and yes in the PVE area the Tengu was never the fastest a CNR was but the Tengu was fast enough to leave but not OP, hell the Mach was almost as nimble as Drake does 900 gun DPS out to 20km and tracks very well.  </p>
<p>Nah thi nerf shows that missiles are broken, HML`s were only viable ones, and now they just killed a weapons system I so desperately wanted to love for years. They look so cool now but they are going o be SHIT </p>
<p>Lastly please show me a blap/tracking dread for Cald, Yeah missiles are OP and or fine. </p>
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		<title>By: sumup</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/18/dev-post-winter-attack-cruisers-missile-rebalance/comment-page-1/#comment-150697</link>
		<dc:creator>sumup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 21:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I spent all this time summarizing this shit together and for thank you put me negative feed backs, like if Its my fault they fuck up the game...fuck this shit, It&#039;s time to stop being nice whatever.... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent all this time summarizing this shit together and for thank you put me negative feed backs, like if Its my fault they fuck up the game&#8230;fuck this shit, It&#039;s time to stop being nice whatever&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: Quesa</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/18/dev-post-winter-attack-cruisers-missile-rebalance/comment-page-2/#comment-150681</link>
		<dc:creator>Quesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ty for suggesting one of the worst things they could do in regards to overall game balance. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ty for suggesting one of the worst things they could do in regards to overall game balance. </p>
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		<title>By: suboran</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/18/dev-post-winter-attack-cruisers-missile-rebalance/comment-page-2/#comment-150649</link>
		<dc:creator>suboran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just go back and undo the nano nerf  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just go back and undo the nano nerf  </p>
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		<title>By: John Douche</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/18/dev-post-winter-attack-cruisers-missile-rebalance/comment-page-2/#comment-150534</link>
		<dc:creator>John Douche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is not even clear if torpedoes are affected. All it says is that &quot;rage&quot; gets more damage for less range. So go fit a TE instead of a BCS and you should have your old setup back. Fit two and you have new options for rigs. This is the beauty of the change. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not even clear if torpedoes are affected. All it says is that &quot;rage&quot; gets more damage for less range. So go fit a TE instead of a BCS and you should have your old setup back. Fit two and you have new options for rigs. This is the beauty of the change. </p>
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		<title>By: iskbot#1337</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/09/18/dev-post-winter-attack-cruisers-missile-rebalance/comment-page-2/#comment-150529</link>
		<dc:creator>iskbot#1337</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[not really 
if the dps drops to a ridiculous value the tanking argument getting weaker 
this affects the drake and the nighthawk 
the golem is comparable with the kronos but with the last hybrid buff and the coming rage torp range nerf the kronos beats the golem. 
even now the pve torp golem needs 2 Tech II range rigs and implants. 
this nerf hits a lot of caldari ships massive. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not really<br />
if the dps drops to a ridiculous value the tanking argument getting weaker<br />
this affects the drake and the nighthawk<br />
the golem is comparable with the kronos but with the last hybrid buff and the coming rage torp range nerf the kronos beats the golem.<br />
even now the pve torp golem needs 2 Tech II range rigs and implants.<br />
this nerf hits a lot of caldari ships massive. </p>
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