LAWN: Mild Heist, Aggravating Consequences.
Here is the gist of the whole thing, Legras former director of Blueprint Haus [BLUEP] from Get Off My Lawn recently got into a scruffle with their alliance leadership, the result was the sov drop in nine (9) Pure Blind solar systems and the theft of 46 billion in isk:
The systems have since been recovered and Blueprint Haus has been booted from LAWN until further notice, the same couldn’t be said about the stolen isk:
Return the isk
From: Viger
Sent: 2012.09.17 12:17
To: Legras,47.5 billion, return it
To be clear:
We will be following EULA, but make no bones about it, BPH has declared war on you
We intend to hunt.
We intend to make podding our primary game play.
We intend to make your toons blacklisted for most of eve.We will be submitting your name to Goons, Test, PL, NC dot, -A- and every alliance we deem necessary, you were gone for awhile and may not realize how far reaching LAWN is now.
You were a memeber of BPH for more than 3 years and because you feel someone wronged you it was appropriate to take from us, we will return the favor.
You have acted like a petty theft and we will protect Eve from you.
Any alliance/corp you join will be added to this list and become our war target.To remind you:
We have names, we have IP address, we have emails.
Jack, we can tie you to this game on so many levels.
you have until 2359 eve time today to return the isk or I proceed.
Laugh it up, but make sure you stop and think about what this means and that you have hurt players who did nothing but like and support you. The player you feel that “wronged” you will not see what he has done, he will not feel any pain or remorse, if what he did is true then he is beyond that and I should have been able to deal with him if you would have let me.
I wonder if they will resort to real life Extortion (a federal offense) just like Fatal Ascension did a few weeks ago.
- R
Meh.
CFC pet alliance rage best rage.
Trols @ the mail.
thieves isk best isk
# Claims will follow EULA,
# Immediately makes threats regarding real life info.
So which is it? At least be consistent in your hating.
Conferming EULA has been violated, this person can also file a police report for making physical threats and harrasment. Which the first charge is a felony.
but they are the LAW(n).
The e-laywer is strong in this one.
Your half right… its not a "Felony" charge for physical threats/harrasment.. its a misdemeanor, unless actual impending threat of property and or life is at stake at the time of report (IE ye old "He said/She said" doesnt work in this case) and lastly.. you would have to find a department that is willing to actually file this charge. Good luck with having that stick, especially if the offendent is from a forign country, We have a hard enough time getting sexual predators from forign countries, you really think someone who said some mean things in a video game stands a microbe of a chace?
another rent-a-cop who watched one to many seasons of LAWN and order (see what I did there, its funny cause its a LAWN joke)
So are we going to get the whole story or just another one sided, inflammatory, example of yellow journalism.
Its an EVESkunk mail full of rage.
Laugh and be happy.
These guys know it's just a game right?
some people take internet spaceships way to seriously.
LAWN… LOL…
i support this dude and any dude that rips off the cfc.
What big swinging dick alliance are you from exactly? IRC? Ncdot.? Solar fleet? -A-?
Yeah I bet your side of eve is REALLLY fucking cool…
butthurt detector showing increasing activity…
Seems like your side is the one taking this game way too seriously. "We have names, we have IP address, we have emails." You take this SO seriously that you threaten someone in real life over losing a mere 49 billion isk.
dude they are that inept even with tech it takes 3 years to build up 49 bil. oh and the nerd rage is strong in this story….
Why so serious? you lot just play for shits and grins right?
its not even that much isk, we've been taken for more, life goes on
What a load of bollocks
ROFL "may not realize how far reaching LAWN is now." Pets actually have a reach of influence?
Yes my lawn is very far reaching takes me forever to cut the grass.
you won!
haha , damn i loled
Haha yeah LOL-ed real hard at that.
You may have better luck framing it as a right vs wrong thing =P
They reach all the way up their masters' rectum to pleasure said masters… That's a pretty good reach!
Yes they complain to their masters… you know… Goons, test -A- etc etc.
He listed them.
Damn straight we are the masters…Masters of the Universe to be exact.
lawl^^
i was actually thinking the same.
Almost as if this Viger dude has never played eve before, theft happens, empty threats will be laughed at.
Unless your like FA, and attack people's livelihood outside of the game nobody will give you anything back, all that stuff about getting even no matter where they go is golden, rivalries are great, and everyone loves them.
I would love some of those halfwit retards to try fucking with my RL assets, They may end up regretting the whole situation afterwards though especially when they wake up & realize they are missing the thumbs from both of their hands!
Uh… okay. Why does internet spaceships bring out all the really insane nerds?
lmfao, insane nerds, ol thumb cutter is a likely a fat lazy nerd who lives with mom still and his most latest undertanking and accomplishment is a 3 hour jerk it spree hoping said mom doesnt walk in on him
Says the guy named theCatman LOL
that was… creepy
Yeah right. Like thats a credible threat.
Grow up man.
Hahahahahaha we take your space you threaten to chop off our thumbs. Disabling us will not change the fact we have crucified your your urine soaked corp and wasted your shitty alliance. The Gnomes are bff and will be in pure blind whilst you are cracking one off in Jita.
Know that you have been beaten by the A team and stop being a putrid little bitch making creepy meaningless threats
Dave
Unless you're like FA*
Viger is no different from the 12 year olds on xbox live who say they will hack you.
But they have his IP!
Character bazaar much? You can't really follow people in this game. Create new account…check. Apply to alliance on the other side of EVE….check. Roll around in your personal pool of isk…double check.
LOL Oh no this fearless alliance is going to declare war on one individual and his alts……if he really wanted to evade harassment what would stop him from selling his toons and just starting with a clean toon, getting away with the theft with no further consequences
i seriously hope he does, seeing someone make such a huge deal like this and threatening real life consequences makes me hope more people rip them off
Lols for 46 bil the guy xcan buy a decent skilled toon and still have isk left over. Still thou lols for emo raging for only loosing 46 bil
We will be submitting your name to Goons, Test, PL, NC dot, -A- and every alliance we deem necessary, you were gone for awhile and may not realize how far reaching LAWN is now.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….. seriously, rofl.
OMG Lawn really lol. You are in CFC the skum of EVE. Far reaching LULZ so hard lol.
Shit son, i think this guy would be welcomed in -A- with open arms.
–"you were gone for awhile and may not realize how far reaching LAWN is now."……
LOL! Lawn really is deluded. They are pets of a super noob coalition who's primary goal is to pay for Goons leaders monthly subscriptions in plexes. Nobody in eve even know who we were and it's completely embarrassing to be in the CFC noob coalition. If LAWN want's to be far reaching the first thing they need to do is listen to their members and leave the CFC. Do your worst, I'm sure I'll be really concerned when you send a Drake after me.
"you were gone for awhile and may not realize how far reaching LAWN is now."
Would that be the "long arm of the Lawn" ?
A groaner but I still laughed
haha, the long, flabby arm of the lawn
Paying for their subs, & the rest. The powers that be within that retard coalition ARE ALL involved in that much crap it isn't funny.
Yet we are still to see any of them banned permanently for it, just one of the many reasons EVE is fading away like it is.
I completely agree with Legras.
First … The above post was not from "ME" … but hay I will have to agree that some of what was said rings true…
I would just like to suggest to "Viger" and any of the other members of BPH….
You might want to take a lesson from Zagdul… I cld have been a real Jerk and Kept everything ! …
As someone else mentioned earliear … I did infact take everyting that was able to be taken from corp assets …. Isk value at around 230B give or take a couple B isk … And I did run around every system in a friken POD ! and oflined what TCU's i could … (I-Hubs as well) … oh not to mention the Tech Moon posses… Stripped them of straunt and offlined them … They couldn't do much but tell everyone to stay Docked up !… What a Strat….. Just imagin if i had a Hauler collecting the TCU's as they offlined …!…
After a Lengthy Chat with "Viger" I offered the return of all the corp assets for a sum of 30b ( keeping the wallet takings formyself )…. I had a lesson to teach them… Apparently they don't want to learn it… I won't get into all the reasons why I did what I did…. I just did it…
In any event … I did what i did within the Mechanics of the game…
Trying to attack who i am IRL is a Clear Violation of the EULA and I will make sure to report every person who trys to harass me….
It's a game … NOT RL …
To BPH members and to LAWN and to CFC … You might want to look at current Managemenet ….
To BPH … My Intensions are irrelevent… I was in a Position of responsibility and should not have taken advantage of that regardless of my issues with the other management of BPH….. There is no excuse… I fully expect all of you to hate my Character "Me" In-Game, but again keep what happened in a game within the game … I cld have left the corp with nothing but i choose to return the stuff …The corp would likley have been hard pressed to rebuild as easy otherwise…
To LAWN … I hope this opens your eyes to how some people will react to things that are based in a virtual setting…. and to
CFC …. You might want to look real hard … Think about how valuable BPH really is to your alliance … I did this much damage in a POD … without any resistance ! … not one Bubble … NO ship .. No guns .. No cloak … Nothing, other than a Directors Tag …
Thats what I have to say…
Legras
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lol step 1… transfer assets to new toon then transfer assets to another new toon then bio mass new toon 1…. step 2 option 1 biomass thief toon. step 2 option 2 sell thief toon.
Option 3: Sell thief toon to alt acct, claim you bought the toon and have no idea what theft they are talking about.
or just laugh at the idiot's mail and move on. tomorrow this will all be a distant memory.
This. Same as in real life only much faster.
honestly that much isk, i wouldnt give a shit to bio that toon and start fresh, thats enough isk for getting around on
LOL WUT??? Lawn couldn't find there way out of a wet paper bag moreover Lawn could fuck up a ham sandwich giving 2 slices of bread and a slice of ham.
couldn't find their*
loving the wall of trolls hahaha
Join -a- trololol
I'm sure there are plenty of corps that look forward to a free war dec from a cfc pet, might even be worth starting an alt corp just for it.
i think that whom ever wrote that EVEmail demanding the ISK back must think people are fucking stupid!
We know everyone, & you will be blacklisted all across EVE. seriously who gives a fuck?
No wonder you got ripped off, your living in some sort of fantasy where you think you know everyone, HOWEVER in reality the truth is nearly 100% the opposite
"We intend to make podding our primary game play."
LAWN scrumbags of PureBlind couldn't call pod primaries even if a fleet of pods flew into them.
LAWN must be really poor to be so mad over 45 bill lol
My bet? He will continue laughing all the way into the next alliance he gets into. Even if someone is "blacklisted" they still get hired.
People really goto court over internet spaceship bucks? How hard did the judge laugh when you told him someone stole yo wittle pixwel spacesheep?
Just because some people are crazy enough to buy isk for real money does not actually make it worth anything people. Get over it, make more space cash. Jesus Christ, I'm a miner, and I'm defending griefing. What's that telling you?
Jeez. The mail could be the new line for 'Taken 3'
'We know who you are, we have your ip addresses we have your mails. If you do not return the isk we will hunt you, and kill you'.
Corp theft?
Case Cool
Cool is null -> threaten and hope thief is as cowardly as self
Cool low -> whine and cry
Cool medium -> scum will be scum, life goes on
Cool high -> thanks for the warning d00d we hadn't noticed the small change
Cool very high -> raise rent on pets
didnt want those ISK anyway… huh?^^
Look how they cry… 47.5 billions and threatening with IPs E-Mails etc. gosh, theyre are pretty desperate… its a fucking game chill the fuck out
Game or not, people react if it matters to them.
Thing is, an alliance shouldn't reveal that desperation over a loss a good incursion runner could bear (see what i did there?)
did Vigra just come from WOW or something? i mean he HAS played eve before right??
Isn't corp theft one of the CFCs core activities? I couldn't really see the Goons sending a mail like this, I'm pretty sure they'd just add him to their kill on site list and fuck around with him. LAWN should just take it on the chin and not pretend they are the EVE version of Mossad.
Apparently I can't spell sight.
Should pretend they're playing eve, and realize shit like this happens, crying about it just gets you laughed at, and attacking people out of game will only make the alliance leadership look like jokes. Oh fucking no, you lost some isk out of alliance wallet(very little isk), better start threatening real life consciences over behavior in a game that is considered totally legitimate.
One thing is for sure, sooner or later someone will be charged with defamation, because there are people in the world that have too much money, and when confronted out in the real world will actually fight back, giving eve a bunch of bad press because some alliance leader forgot the number to the wambulance.
this is breaking eula rules, harassment
nice thief dude, trust me, they cant do shit to you, other corps and alliances wont give a shit, outside the cfc
lots of options, sell toon, but another with stolen isk, if your worried, but to be honest, i wouldn't bother
get off my lawn, lol, your comments, lololololololol
if you're worried*
i see a ban coming on for the dick who wrote that in game mail, tut tut, its a fucking game dude
Thief name already out ther and blacklisted, might as well keep the money…
Its so simple , dont bot , dont trick newbies in newbies system , follow the uela — Everthing else is allowed in eve. really i think eve has the simples rules of them all , dont ya love it?
wow's rules are – Follow the EULA
bringing things into RL from EVE has RL consequences….still just a game
Confirming CFC has pets, they take the game way to serious and really are at the point that they offer isk to pilots who come to fleets. There forums and jabbers/chats are full of circle jerking freaks who think they are better then anyone else in this game, Goons being the worst of the bunch. No CFC alliance stands on it's own Goon's run pretty much everything and hold 90% of the isk. While the minor alliances don't even have the isk for decent cap programs or even able to replace a scimi never mind having a proper logistics chain to bring ships in. Dot Bros has the ability to have fully fit ships ready in there staging system's up on contract for there members before fleets, yet the line member alliances of the CFC tell there pilots to bring there own shit in lol.
The great (lol's) CFC leader calls the CFC "My people" like he's a god or some such thing. Seriously either you guys are a RP coalition or take this game like it is really RL (which if true you need some mental help). Anyway thank you LAWN for another reason to lol at the CFC and there nerd rage.
Obviously you don't really know the CfC then. All stations usually stocked for doctrine ships (yes after the Vile Rat memorial there may have been a temp shortage as we whelped a lot of stuff). Full SRP for ops a mandatory rule for alliances within the CfC. Logistics chains are good all the way to staging. For heavens sake they even dropped a station just for the delve campaign.
If the Dot Bros think the CfC arnt well supplied then they are fools.
My spi says other wise tyvm and trust me I have sorted threw the contracts and asked around. You have everything on market for which your members may buy at a slight profit to the seller. What you don't have is pre fit fleet ships.
yeah, the contracts are empty and we have to buy all the stuff on the market completely overprized. the reason must be those spys like you who really know something from their business.
You certainly 'whelped' a lot of stuff. I had me a damned turkey shoot in my muninn at UMI yesterday courtesy of CFC. My guns just couldn't cycle fast enough! I can only laugh when our fleet of 150 loses like a dozen ships, and you guys lose hundreds. You guys are bleeding isk. No doubt about it. Keep bringing us moar gudfites lol.
I heard he was running around in a POD and doing this much damage!… And you couldn't Catch him? … i heard from some of the other members in LAWN that he origionally had Almost all of his corp assets in his hanger and then was kind enough to give most of it back ! …. How much did he really take from you all ??? …
This is a game Gezz … Get over it move on and call it a day… 47b is nothing to cry about… Oh wait .. that s right your a CFC pet …. 47b is probabily like half of the alliances total isk pool …
Goes to show How childish this group of people are in LAWN… Grow up some …
And I hope this guy reports This Viger to CCP for a violation of the EULA and he gets himself banned for it …
biggest bunch of crybabies are goonpets…..tough shit, deal with it.
Sooo, there are problems among his people?
lol
Lol lawn is so powerful, they tried to SBU us and we womped them outnumbered 5:1 again….Damn it`s SBU killing Galore.
northern-coalition.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&am… eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=146… eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=146… eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=146…
And like 20 more times…More like GTFO our Lawns
Best one ever northern-coalition.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&am…
Really posting kills on SBU's. In the war how you doing still holding tribute….. kill as many SBU's as you want the space belongs to the CfC now.
The CfC has endless amounts of drakes for you to welp and sbus for you to kill. They will still keep coming and eventually all of Tribute and possibly vale will fall too. You cant beat the sheer numbers.
For all the Good Fights and small wins you will still loose. Maybe posting SBU kills makes you feel better.
Even if LAWN is so awful as all the CfC are they all have friends and many of them.
Lol you still dont get that we play this game to fight, not to rat, not to hold moons and to haul shit t market…We play to kill stuff, we love living in NPC null so you can never beat us because it will just give us more fights and you will keep welping more fleets making yourselves look horrible.
What you dont also get is CFC will get so big all of Eve will eventually come after them, just like NC. And since you do care about ratting space and mining space and ownership and do play the game for your Pixel Gold you will lose.
Remember how they said people just like you. "MM/NC" wil never fall" "Its called fortress tribute for a reason" blah blah blah….Then we came and ass raped NC and then they turned into CFC years later….But you can only lose the war and never win.
Its just like a Heavy wieght fighting a middle wieght, if the middle wieght wins he shows everyone how much better he was, and if the heavy weight wins who cares he was so much bigger he should have not even been close to losing …EVER
Well buddy guess what we not only bend you over and rape you, on the regular but we do it with 3x less numbers all the time like this.
dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=13172
Lol 121 of us 283 of you and we still killed 144 and lost 20…..LOL
Thats everyday, we farm you. All of your ISK so far has come from mainly Structures that mean little to us.
Just like when PL beat the NC`s ass and the NC said "See we won you left" and chest beat we all knew who won and what was sure to come….and guess what Northern Coalition was no more.
We cant lose, and if you havent figured that out yet you are dumb.
Sorry we could lose if you guys stared to fight us 1v1 on a regular basis and beat us, but your militia at best, we are full time fighters. Fighting is what we do, its why we log in and pay our subs.
Also with Drake and HML Nerf what will happen then? Seriously think abouy losing 40-100 Rokhs or Hell Naga`s in which we will pwn you harder. You will go from losing 25-30 mil to 60-200 mil depending on ships.
Not to mention you will actually have to learn and teach the RL equiv of farmers with pitchforks how to actually fight….Lol what will you blob with then, it will go back to old school kitchen sink fleets where we pick off the weak Pests and odd men out then escape, and all the Pet Allies will cry for ISK because GSF is greedy and issues little amounts, so little a director cried over 46 bil ….46 bil is 2 SC`s….Lol
Sorry bro you guys may think you have it won but i nreality its you who is bleeding, and when Test/PL 1-2 years from now every week in between distances itself from you and realizes "Hey we are better than them and way better fighters now" watch out, because US, PL and alot more will come rape…..Once the blood was in the water with NC going down all of eve came fo kills vs the "Mighty"
Your days are numbered, every Tech moon we had was a luxury. Its a the reason you log in….
Daxos: I see I was wrong to expect Sparta's commitment to at least match our own.
King Leonidas: Doesn't it?
[points to Arcadian soldier behind Daxos]
King Leonidas: You there, what is your profession?
Free Greek-Potter: I am a potter… sir.
King Leonidas: [points to another soldier] And you, Arcadian, what is your profession?
Free Greek-Sculptor: Sculptor, sir.
King Leonidas: Sculptor.
[turns to a third soldier]
King Leonidas: You?
Free Greek-Blacksmith: Blacksmith.
King Leonidas: [turns back shouting] Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: WAR! WAR! WAR!
King Leonidas: [turning to Daxos] You see, old friend? I brought more soldiers than you did.
Numbers dont make fighters, Even your SC pilots are miners and traders and JF tec haulers and ratters…We are all of us PVPers, we kick people for not going on ops if they ratt my spy alt in yours sits there when ever I want, and best part is GSF laugh at the CFC Pets doing the lifting.
This shows more than desperation: it shows lack of intelligence. Cause this never works.
If the guy is ruthless and daring enough to do the heist in the 1st case, you're never going to threaten him into submission. Only a fool or a weakling would fall for that.
So he's not gonna fold, and you'd better keep your threats and not look like an ass.
Hey Cock sucking LAWN AND FA BITCHES. You are playing Eve you stupid piece of dog pile SHIT. Learn how to fucking manage your corps better. DO it or this shit will happen more. You really are piece of fucking shit with 0 meaning in life. Go fucking disband. I am tired of you butthurt assholes crying over some isk. "Oh we have your IP and emails!" Bitch please grow some fucking balls and deal with your loss. To fucking bad.
you sound mad whats up just rubbed boiling lemon juice into your palms and feet? You should chill out I don't know go for a day trip for 40 days and nights in some wilderness. I am sure when you come back you will still be in high sec, still grinding missions and still talking in local about how you nearly made it.
LOL, LAWN threatening somone! They are the least of the Goon pets, around the level of the weaker TEST pets. What could this guy possibly fear from them? Besides, transfer isk, sell toons, buy new toons… Did anyone ever get Karttoon?
Ah yes this remind me why i stopped playing eve… the childness level in this game is so insanely high.. people always forget it's a game.. you loose some systems big deal.. recover them and continue…
a free tip
4 keys to managing disappointment
- Use it to improve how you set and manage expectations
- Admit it.
- Learn from it.
- Move on.
I approve of this butthurt.
Moar please.