Comments on: Greedy Goblin: Why PvE is Boring and “Carebear”?

By: The Dead One

The Dead One — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:31:57 +0000

For some reason many people seem to think that PVE is mining only, I guess that is just the Suicide Gankers who live for Hulkageddon. PVE is much more than Mining. Its missions, planetary interaction, exploration, anomming, manufacturing, running the market, and much much more. Why people seem to focus on mining as the only thing that is PVE is beyond me.

If you havent noticed they are going to introdue NPC AI Changes to make the belt rats more dangerous thereby making mining less safe when rats arrive. As it is mining is not boring if you are doing it in a fleet because it is now a social gathering. And yes if you want you can ignore everyone and solo mine if you choose.

The problem here is that most of the people who are complaining are upset because they cant suicide gank anymore and they are too terrified to do it in Null-Sec. PVE is an integral part of the game, if you open it up to too much risk then new players will quit and subscriptions will dry up. Then the game will die. When you speak of PVE, think, if it goes away and all that is left is PVP and Griefing, how long will the game last?

By: John Douche

John Douche — Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:22:22 +0000

Tl;dr: … KILL DIE DIE DIE DESTROY MUHAHAHAHAHA!!11!!1!1!!!!!

By: What name?

What name? — Wed, 19 Sep 2012 13:54:25 +0000

The editor of this article should be shot. I could not get past the second paragraph due to the poor grammar, bad spelling, and incoherent sentences. If you are going to run a news site you really need to find writers that show an aptitude for writing or at the very least are able to use a spell checker.

By: Lalau

Lalau — Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:17:09 +0000

Some people play EVE to make ISK.
PVE = ISK making
PVP = ISK spending

One cannot live without the other.
Deal with it.

By: Gunny

Gunny — Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:04:37 +0000

Dumbest shit i've read in awhile.

By: AnonProton

AnonProton — Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:37:50 +0000

Most mining is anti-social. If you want to mine more you don't join up with your friends, you get another few accounts going and watch more movies.
FW is a social activity. If you want to succeed you DO band together with new people who will most likely become your friends even outside of FW. Let's pretend both were completely "fixed". Which do you suppose would retain more players long term? Now you have the answer to why CCP are putting more resources into FW (or anything for that matter) than into mining.

By: lolscrubs

lolscrubs — Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:05:28 +0000

Stopped reading when he started to compare eve pvp to an aspect of WoW gameplay. This guy is as clueless as it gets when it comes to eve. Why do we have to read his stupid uniformed rants. Nobody cares what some guy who was actually stupid enough to play WoW until he capped on jewgold has to say about eve.

By: thatguy

thatguy — Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:55:45 +0000

hey this sounds awesome why dont CCP just make it so difficult for you to do anything that you have no choice but to blue up everyone so that you can hopefully get some of that shrinking pie your describing.

and to furhter add to the idiocy of these ideas we leave lvl 1 mission agents alone so that newbies can into the game, so that they can do what ? sit and wait for a chance to mine something, and die horribly in their new ore frigates, just so that they have to go back to the lvl 1 mission agents and try again, you will end up with everyone running lvl 1 missions.

your version of this game is that if your no blue dont even bother.

By: mki

mki — Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:30:14 +0000

You seem to have missed the whole point. I guess all miners have missed it. PvE to make ISK….. and what do carebears do with ISK? Just look at the numbers get bigger I guess?

PvPers use ISK to PvP, and generally only PvE to make ISK so they can go PvP again. So from a PvP point of view, this mix of PvE and PvP would be perfect. It would also give new objectives for PvP (get that belt or anom), other than just plain kills – that don't mean as much anymore, and sov/moon fights – something you can't generally do with a small gang

By: Bored of PVE

Bored of PVE — Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:57:33 +0000

Business schools teach now that if you dont grow sales EVERY year you are a failure.

I used to love PVE, ironically when i died alot cause didnt have the right ships or the isk to pimp them. Now that i do i just cba….prefer to just blow shit up.

Now I only PVE when my wallet gets low enough to force me, and tend to just burn anoms mindlessly for a few hours. (I pay for plex with real money btw)

I'll admit I'm lazy….but PVE just isnt so much fun for me no more.

By: Suzume

Suzume — Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:27:42 +0000

I don't agree with your 'facts'. I'm pretty sure the guy who just popped that Prowler full of Overseer's Effects won't need to PVE for a while unless he's titan shopping, or finds another hapless Prowler with 50 bil in it. That's an extreme example but there certainly are people who PVP for profit. TEARS, PL… there's a list.

This isn't broken. You don't like PVE – don't do it. Can't find a way to make money doing PVP? I'd say that's a failing on your part, not the game's. Do MOST pilots get their isk in a PVE fashion – yeah maybe, but much of that ISK feeds PVP so there's a definite link. It's not CCP's job to make the wheel spin for you.

By: Corteztk

Corteztk — Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:40:48 +0000

A) I do live in a wormhole although with alts as I do also live in null sec.
B)I never suggested eliminating local I was simply making the point that people become very sensitive at the idea of EVE becoming truly hard….like you are doing now
C)I believe this game would truly benefit from higher consequences to losing ships…IE alliances not being able to fight due to running out of resources.

Thanks for suggesting my banishment to a wormhole though.

By: Lunbek

Lunbek — Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:39:30 +0000

the game goes from boring to not playing cause its lame.

By: lifeofzenith

lifeofzenith — Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:21:22 +0000

Da Faq did I just read?!?!

0.0

By: Habib

Habib — Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:00:37 +0000

Your suggestion of making EVE fun is:

1.Totally wreck the people who manufacture the modules and ships.
2. Perpetually lose ships and modules for the sake of "fun"
3. Wreck the economy as nobody can afford ships and modules.
4. Encouraging PLEXing for silver bullets and golden hulls.

Has it ever occurred to you that there are people in Null and WH space who NEED to defensively PvP and that it's not fun?

Wanna know how to help hisec carebears and miners?
LEAVE THEM THE F#*K ALONE!!!