What would you do if you owned a handful of Super Capital fleet production lines with more supply than demand? You sell the surplus to your enemies, a proposition which has raised more than a few eyebrows in TEST Alliance Leadership:
TEST Alliance Vows not to commit Morsus Mihi’s Mistakes.
It has come to our attention that some people inside of the HBC may not be aware of this policy as we just assumed people understood that we took this policy with us when we left the CFC.
So here it is for all to see, we will absolutely NOT tolerate the selling of supers on the open market, it HAS to be sold to someone within HBC (We will be discussing whether or not we are OK selling to CFC or not, for now stick with HBC).
If you decide to sell to a neutral or red you will be kicked and reamed in the ass with the biggest stick we can find. If you are a special enough snow flake to your alliance that they won’t kick you, we will remove your alliance from the HBC.
This is an absolute, set in stone, no ifs-ands-or-buts policy.
The allusion to our title comes from the good amount of super capitals which were sold by Morsus Mihi to the drone russians, the same super capitals which were used to exterminate the old Northern Coalition back them.
More recently there is the rumor that TEST’s newest blues list might include a couple hardcore industrialist with a knack to build supers deep within the safety pockets.
Either way, it is nice to see Test leadership trying to draw the line, although a prohibition like this is easier said than done. In fact don’t be surprised if TEST alliance is forced to reduce their blues list.
- R
yeah, don't get too comfortable in your power like MM did, and believe that no one can touch you.
Being a little paranoid is a good idea.
what power?
Hey man, Mittens said were independent now so shut up, were just waiting for mittens to give us permission then were going to suicide rush everyone we see and show 0.0 real pvp.
CFC won't sell supers to themselves? Did I miss something?
CFC and HBC are two separate things
If you say it enough times someone is bound to believe you!
Because you do not believe it does not make it so. The decision has been made and the infrastructure in place. You are lying to yourself keeping yourself ignorant to simple facts that do not benefit your outlook on the universe.
Test will never not be a goon pet, implying they are aren't is ridiculous, and the fact that your actually trying to sell this bullshit to us(the eve community) is laughable, and that is what most are taking it as, a joke, and nothing more.
That being said, if you actually what to believe that shit, that is fine, but people are bound to make fun of you every time you bring it up, or even imply it.
you sir, are in the minority of that opinon nowadays and everytime someone tries to state that falsehood makes them look like a moron.
Show me a kill mail with a dead Goon super or tower killed by Test (or the other way around) and i will believe you… until then it's one single CFC / HBC power block with goons at the helm and Test / PL as second in command.
I don't care if you are allowed to shoot member alliances of each others coalition, that is just mistreating your pets, not being seperate entities.
awesome post, much love, i couldn't pu this better myself
Ok, using that logic we can assume that -a- and cfc are the same entity as they have not killed each others supers recently.
Awful post spotted.
lol you mean like this one http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id…
And we can all laugh at you for taking it upon yourself to educate us with the opinion of the entire eve community.
But it's fair to say that your own opinion of the matter is I relevant. As you do not have access to high command channels in the hbc your understanding and opinions on their leadership is based guesswork.
When HBC helps NCDOT take Dek and all the other Pet Areas like fade tenal branch etc then I will consider them separate until then my Ex fav guys to fly with PL and Test [whom] I also like are CFC.
Its funny we defended PL moons but now our SOV`s getting busted and PL is nowhere to help us and with 5k members being at least equal numberwise Test should be fine alone vs AAA while PL comes helps fight.
They either have to attack GSF from south and CR area or help in Vale etc otherwise they are the CFC…PL included
ok irrelevant faggot.
not fighting each other and being part of the same coalition with shared resources, command structures and space are two very different things.
Still attempting to prove that test are not goon bitches, but its like proving grass isn't green, no matter how many times you say it no one is going to believe you.
Unless they invade Goons
Keep telling yourself that, still doesn't make it true.
Do not sell the jacket to the left
You need Shiva to failscade like MM, just a few more weeks before 401k dies and Shiva is alliance-less (Again).
who?
Wtb NYx. 25b fitted.
typical, alliance vips will buy them more cheeply and sell for real cash online to whoever pays them
https://forum.pleaseignore.com/topic/19247-hbc-po…
I hate to let facts come in the way of a good story, but…
MM sold supers to PL through an alt corp while they were still on friendly terms with each other. A mistake that came to bite them in the ass badly. The various DRF alliances were more than capable of producing their legion of scaps given their access to easy minerals and large swathes of undisturbed farmed space.
But yes, please continue with the sensationalism.
And the amount they sold PL was a joke compared to what WN/DRF paid for in Supers…The 3 PL SC`s I know that were sold were all made fun of because DRF was selling them 15% cheaper and giviving them Supers right and left to clear regions.
"no ifs-ands-or-buts " David Cameron
On heathrow airport- I hope test policy is firmer
if u dont sale supers who will fly ? Test pilots hahahahahahah
Seat in super it not same like flay a rifters omg nooobs
if u dont sale supers who will fly ? Test pilots hahahahahahah
Don't sell to CFC scrub, dishonour will come to the supercap & supercap's family and it will be used by a noob =(
If the HBC doesn't exist, it's all just Dekco, why is this news? This would only signal a change in policy if Test et al were separate from goons
Ok, this is a bit tin foil hat-ish, but it kinda sounds like, at least to me, that the HBC HC doesn't want the lower downs selling out of the alliance/coalition because they are doing it themselves and do not want more competition….
Ok Tin foil hat off, but this is a good policy, "Do not sell to your enemies". Should be something all alliances adopt. It will bolster your own super numbers and help keep your enemies down, especially if they do not have a thriving indy side. Good luck with this Test, but I know some people will circumvent this for better profits.
super production is not an easy task
so i doubt HBC leadership will have the time with running there alliance to do the annoying work of producing supers….
And over all a policy of not selling to anyone not in HBC is foolish not that hard to get into an alliance buy super then gtfo…
Putting Morsus Mihi and TEST in the same sentence is oxymoron.
the ironic part is they managed to hand the keys to front door to PL even before any shots are fired.
it's truth because TEST don't make RMT like MM and GOONS actually
Pocket full s'caps, and what do you do, sell em. This is arm race, so those indy toons will sell to terrorists and alike at some point.
Whom to do I report players for selling supers to neutrals/reds? I can name one for every corporation in TEST!!
Also funniest part is Mittens sells Supers through websites for money all the time.
This was more TEST trying to tell its guys we arent going down like MM was, even though we bankrupt and have massive internal problems etc.
More chest beating, but IMO smart chestbeating, letting the lemmings know they arent gonna collapse soon.
Dont worry as soon as GSF takes Vale, they will give there new pets 30% of Tec and keep there 70% share, thats how they roll, then Test can get more loans
I hate mittens as much as the next non goon, but 'url or stfu', i fancy a new avatar.
Sorry your right, it was before he was CSM, then he did straighten up.
We had High up GSF guys in Director roles 3 of them in fact who on Mittens order traded a SC for a XL-SB it was faction though…..Still math doesnt or never will add up a 1.4 bil isk Part for a AEON, We used a 3rd party but couldnt know who. Also they were told it was to trade for a Tec moon, funny thing is we didnt gain any Tec for 30 days.
Maybe he is clean now that he makes 10x more than he did in the past and now that he has trusted 2+ year morefriends to do it with, including guys like the faction five…..Just read GSF quote and tell me they dont do anything that will give them an upperhand while griefing all of EVE,
“Of course, one minor side effect of this whole thing is that anyone doing missions in June, 2012 was basically doing it at our sufferance, since we could nuke the value of their LP at will. Consider this our demonstration of how benevolent we are towards the rest of Eve Online; we could have annihilated the rewards received by every mission runner in the game. Instead, we’ve chosen to merely leave them with some light bruising and a walk of shame.”
Also now that he was CSM he knows exactly how to cheat even better, and BTW DEK has at least 1 BOT hunter per system we all knew about it and was told to mind our own corp and leave other corps alone, COme on man use your brain, they own a part of space totally desolate with some of the best ratting ever with a few hundred moons and 155 corps so you can pack 1-5 of them full of Botters and all they fight with are Drakes…..Where is all the 8 bil per 40 moons per month they owned where they didnt fight for 1 year go? Hell they are making more than ever now.
I dont have a spy now in there so please tell me if you have a SC pilot do they fully pay for it?
If not they making 60 bil a month just in moons. and 155 corps with 23/7 ratters at 10% tax and out of there 9k Members letssay 7 are real ratters who make 100 mil a person for the corp…..They have had dek now 2.5 years all unopposed and only using drakes with occasional Maels.
60 moons@ an avg 7 bil because some werent Tec x 2.5 years= 210 Bil at the absolute minimum and 700ish at the max when the NC fell and for the last 1.5 years they tripled there moons. Now in when I would rat and I was a hardcore PVPer I`d make 1 bil a month so lets say 5k members ratting, thats 3 mil per month at the very least, bots make 10 x that and if you proof f bots your insane and never roamed dek with 300 cloaky ravens where you enter and poof they cloak, we actually would go to where wrecks were and as groups MWD to there ratting Areas on there last belts and actually decloak them and of course they would sit there until you locked em up.
In the last 2.5 Yrs alone just with moons and ratting not mining which is great not scamming no building Supers the legit way making 30-40%, not all the massive station fees for buying and selling and refining they have made 1-3 Trillion EZ with very little lost to any wars etc.
Your telling me they didnt RMT any of that? You are Naive if you think so, Im not saying they are the only ones they arent, but go look how much plex`s cost at pirate sites 9-10 a pop, and look how much a AEON costs 600-800 dollars, to them thats nothing but in RL thats rent mony, Hell I knew someone who made a ton 600 bil then he sold it for RMT, then re-bought the ISK 1 month later all 600 bil worth and kept the rest himself, he kept doing this and CCP never causght on because the funds never left long enough , so to say gimme proof or it didnt happen is ridiculous.
You realize how many accounts these guys own? How many firewalls were put up not tot get caught?
Sad thing I dont even hate Mittens, I hate Blobs, and I dont even hate RMT`rs seeing as Plex`s are RMT IMO, It should be all or none.
I do hate guys who talk about cracking down on RMT`ers and calling DRF a Legion of Botters and RMT`ers when you yourself RMT through many ways.
“Of course, one minor side effect of this whole thing is that anyone doing missions in June, 2012 was basically doing it at our sufferance, since we could nuke the value of their LP at will. Consider this our demonstration of how benevolent we are towards the rest of Eve Online; we could have annihilated the rewards received by every mission runner in the game. Instead, we’ve chosen to merely leave them with some light bruising and a walk of shame.”
sounds like an excuse really.
LOL
nice one here
And my point of view for someone that made tons of isk from missions LP
gay
MM did not collapsed because they sold suppers. It collapsed because people stoped caring.
Really MM/NC didnt collapse because they sold supers this is laughable. The DRF could make the raw minerals for Titans and SC`s at 10x the rate since all there "Loot/Bunties" are minerals.
No what really happened was NC lost 13 Titans and more Supers in 1 engagement while GSF cried and said, "Oh well it was to far away and we wouldnt have helped anyways"
Lol yeah your 30+ Supers would not have helped at least 6-8 of the NC Supers escape and at least match numbers with DRF, Hell at that point only reason we were winning wasnt super numbers alone but we had massively better/co-ordinated Subcap fleets, 500+ Hellcats can really help kill a Titan very fast.
Then after the Whelp the NC realized they were really alone, and it was a terribad decision to allow DEKco to move into Dek in the first place, they thught Dek/GSF was gonna be part of NC and instead on that fateful day they found out Dekco is the masters of letting enemies kill eachother then fight the weakened side….Seriously read the NC command channels after the huge welp.
So what killed the NC was not selling Supers to there enemy, it was not using Super EVER AFTER THAT, meaning every engagement that escalated, was a loss for NC, as SC`s are the ultimate escalation and the guy were to afraid in there horribad FC`s and had no faith in there so called "Allies" who later said we were fighting our own war in cloud ring…..Sad part is they were fighting Evoke a 1500 man Alli and steamrolling them.
GSF left them to die, so I think TEST is starting to realize that once you get to big for GSF to be comfortable with and you grab land they dont control with an iron fist you become to powerful and might one day have to be cut down to size…..There can be only 1 GSF, get anywhere close to them being uncomfortable from backstabbs where they think they cant beat you and you will be left alone isolated SOVless with GSF saying dont worry you can have these 6 systems to get on your feet, and those 6 Systems you used to own + 40 more…..Lol
tl;dr GSF are useless and backstabber.
GSF are the old Morusu Mihi, welcome back Northern Coalition o/
Everyone in game has super production. Hell I an alt corp myself buildin them cheap, buyorders for the win
Do not sell to CFC ? That's strange.
Sooner or later there is gonna need to be a reset.
~Rules~
No attacking Clusterfuck Coalition Structures
No camping Clusterfuck Coalition jump bridges or stations
No AFK camping Clusterfuck systems
AHAHAHA PET
No this is a mutual agreement. In the CFC we actually have the same rules regarding HBC.
This is silly. Unless HBC has the super market cornered (they may produce alot, but I doubt its enough to signifigantly impact super cap prices across the board to the point that alliance that were planning to buy super caps, will choose to buy less) prospective non-blue buyers will simply buy supers from someone else…..allowing some other alliance to profit. This is economic lunacy that is quite rampant IRL. These policies stem from emotions, and not from logic. The idea of having a super-capital you built, and profited on shooting at your alliance angers some people….oddly…..but the alternative is having a super-capital you didn't profit from shooting at your alliance.???? This is the equivalent of…I am going to hurt all prospective enemies by per-emptively hurting myself….at least I can get hot-dropped while being poorer and on the moral high-ground.
I'm glad there are crack-pot ideas like this. It means there are enough people out there that don't understand markets. Means I can make more money off of them. Keep it up.