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K162 Space: Dust 514 Market In Eve
The following screenshots are from the test server that was opened to the public today. I’ll keep updating this post as I find interesting items on the market.
Market Tree
Dropships
Standard
Logistics
Dropsuit Skills
Vehicle Armor Plates
Dropsuits
Vehicles
Local Chat
- Blake
No where to post good fight http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&adjacent&…
So outnumbering BCs with BS and winning is a good fight? Hmm…
You obviously don't understand pvp at all if you classify that as a "good fight."
You should feel bad for being so retarded.
Jesus, not only do you guys not understand sarcasm but I posted it as fast as I saw it because people always bitch about this site sucking <a in_rurl="http://trkjmp.com/click?v=VVM6MjQwMjQ6NjIxOmFhYTpkZTliNTYwZjQ3YWFlN2E0ZDdlNmNjODg1YjAxNzYzYzp6LTEwNjMtMTQ5Nzg6d3d3LmV2ZW5ld3MyNC5jb206NjM2Nzp0ZXh0X29ubHk" href="#" style="text-decoration:underline" id="_GPLITA_3" title="Powered by Text-Enhance">AAA dicks. So I posted a clear blob from Test and PL , but hey at least they won. This way the CFC cant say you never ever show wins…Well this is there typical win is all im saying.
And if you think the one fleet couldnt beat the other then your dumb, I have seen way bigger upsets than that. Theres a million ways they could have fought not stood toe to toe with a bigger stronger fleet. Speed being 1 major advantage.
Anyways maybe it wasnt good fight I posted it as a major fight right away…There feel better now Ill retract and say i was Semi Major. With a god amount of kills.
But if they were so stupid to fight them head on they were stupid.
TL;DR you know that you're an idiot and you're sorry.
You obviously need to go to WOW sarcasm is part of Eve and Hunter for ever has been anti blob pointing out CFC`s constant ability to blob. Maybe you are the newb?
Holy fucking run-on sentence. Break it up so we can actually see that you are breathing while you think…
What isn't a part of Eve these days, Sarcasm over the internet is fucking retarded when not done right.
And no was calling anyone a "newb" you fucking faggot.
A) why would you call that a good fight? B) how can you be dumb enough to take that fleet into a system with that many faction ships flown by PL pilots????
Im confused they arent at all gonna have Dust play for the PC? Why does that make sense?
its cpp…it never makes sense….they are a bunch of fucking retards lolol.
Planetside 2 is going to crush all the hopes and dreams.
I hope MWO and PS2 ruin it for them not giving there base the same platform. If they want PS3 fine, but they can easily port it to PC.
Its not like dumbing a game down from PS3 to xbox, they could make the graphics and specs whatever the PS3`s is if they were lazy. Just one more way to grab our money, a whole new 60 dollar buy and PS3 and pay per month….BS I hope it fails
are you stupid? the game has already clearly been announced as FREE. Im not familiar with the ps3 so they might have a monthly fee, but CCP has said the base game itself is free.
You are stupid obviously. A you have to pay monthly for a membership for PS3 network and B assume players who play PC games play them for a reason…..They own PC`s…I dont own a PS3 so to me its 400 dollars for this "Free" game
All they had to do was convert it over to PC from PS3 like 99.9% of games do.
Rule is ALL GAMES from console can go to PC, but only a select few can go from PC to console.
This is a deal with Sony and another way for them to break up the profits you can count on that, When dust was 1st announced it was going to be PC Xbox and Sony, since I am very familiar with the Biz side of software I know what happend. Sony made a deal with CCP where all game downloads etc get a certain price, then on top of it the in game players have to buy items like free 2 play models as well.
You are naive if you think CCP hasnt done this before remember the NEX store 30 dollars for glasses at one point and a 20 dollar a month account….
Keep drinking the coolaid
You do not have to pay for membership. Only for the higher membership. All your games can be played online for free. Get your facts straight. You are a minority trying to claim facts that don't exist. And your wrong. Console games usually don't translate well to pc. In this case fps can and often do well. However since more fps players are on console than pc what your really asking is that they give up tons of sales for you and the few.
The PS3 online membership is a subscription service that gets you access to select titles for as long as you area sub member. Regardless of whether you pay for the sub service or not, you can still play online for free. The same is not true of the 360, where you are required to maintain a gold account in order to play online.
You will need playstation plus to Dust514
NO YOU FUCKING WELL WONT
Good thing those few are us. It was never ever gonna make the sales of a Halo or a MW, or battlefield, you guys are delusional.
ALl the in depth stuff in Dust means nothing to the avg 14 year old gamer, and yes that is the AVG gaming age 14 years old.
So do you think FPS guys that pick Terrorist or CT`s are gonna care about Gallantes freedom fight? Mini`s slavery and there freedom from that slavery?
Or how about the sleepers and all the other EVE Lore, hell no they are gonna shoot each other and since the game will be less than that of MW and battlefield gameplay wise but make up for it 10x more in story it would be useful to us PC/In Depth gamers….But its not.
This huge console market you speak of doesnt exist for a game like Dust period, they can tr for a Team Fortress type thing but its gonna fail compared to planetside, boarderlands 2 and the list goes on and on, all with unique attributes that have instant gratification which console gamers like.
There is a reason Star wars online star trek online LOL, WOT, MWO, Eve, etc etc etc of MMORPG fighting style games are on the PC.
BntyHunter Dude – You are spot on and i agree totally with you – Dust just will not work and will fail – theres alot of other FPS out there and kids on PS3 was good FPS – my friend and I played a hell of alot of FPS on Xbox and PS3 – i spent about 1 hour playing Dust and we just couldnt beleive how crap it was – CCP have wasted money on this – dont think the designers ever did market research – and SACK the DeSiGnErS !
Not a few, 400k, that is huge hell say there is 200k.
MW2 sold 4.7 mil and that game has serious laegs from 8 year olds to 60 year olds playing it, with instant gratification, and no need to sign on at a CTA or lose a planet and or contract for your company.
Sorry but 90% of MW123 gamers would never be able to fight an ongoing Eve type battle that might be required for 2-3 months like DRF vs NC and all the famous clash of titan battles.
So 200k Eve fans is a lot. And its absolutely easy to port a game over in every sense of the word. Its simply contractual agreement 100%. They want to say only on PS3 etc.
P.S Xbox out sold MW2 2:1 and its 12 mil sold had 2 mil downloads+PC sales.
If major software companies sell PC its for a reason. Also PSN was voted most unstable game network 2 years running BTW with less than 1/4 of people on at its peak hours as Xbox live has on a regular day.
So your goal of success is based solely on the most successful FPS franchise.
It doesn't take hundreds of thousands of players to keep servers running.
Part of PS3 only instead of also on PC is probably related to money from Sony. However developing the ability for PS3 and PC players to play in the same matches at the same time, not to mention the huge increase in cost of development makes that a bad idea.
The reason major software companies produce cross platform for the PC is that they think they can make some extra money that will offset the cost of developing the software.
Get over the 360, Microsoft wouldn't change to allow CCP to do what they wanted, you may as well be complaining about it not running on the Wii.
Using your example of Modern Warfare 2, why wouldn't CCP produce for the console market, even PS3 out sold the PC 2:1.
You are a damn hate mongering troll, that has no actual information and a complete misunderstanding of anything int the gaming industry.
Will DUST 514 do well, no idea, it all depends on how many people they need to be making micro-transaction purchases to keep the game going.
Its not a common console game to say it is is madness
Micro transactions is my point EVE never would have worked as a F2play model…Imagine buying the mothership ability without waiting or spending 500 dollars to buy a toon who can fly it right away….Thats an IWIN
PSN does not require a mothly membership idiot…
Just like Xbox live doesnt require money unless you want to use any real services. Yes you can use cheapo PSN but it doesnt have half the shit you need to seriously game.
You again clearly have no idea what you are talking about, yeah Xbox live has a gold membership that is pretty much required to game online.
What exactly does a Plus account get you that you need to seriously game, the free games or the discounts on digital downloads, because I sure as hell don't need it to play any of the games I do have fully.
What the hell are you talking about? PSN is PSN, all PS+ gets you is instant downloads of updates, discounts on some PS store items, early beta access, and other tiny things. Either do some research or keep your trolling ass off of here.
Either way also its 400 Dollars to buy the system and the game looks identical to the FPS that COmmand and Conquer came out with years ago where all the small little mammoth tanks etc where huge and you were basically the commando.
It wont be F-2-Play in the end
A PS3 would run no more than 300 dollars.
320 GB PS3 bundle 300
160 GB PS3 new are 250
Used or refurbished PS3 can easily be found fro under 200.
Why do you have such a hateon?
Because the amount of misinformation you continue to post is ridiculous.
PSN will need there "Premium" to run….Thats cost.
As a potential player, I would have much prefer DUST514 to be PC based. That said, the amount of misinformation in your post is amazing.
1) You do not need a monthly membership for the PSN, there is PlaystationPlus which does have a fee, but really is just free stuff, discounts, and exclusives. The only thing they appear to be getting involving DUST is beta access.
2) Some people own PCs, some own PCs and a console, and some people event use their console as their main gaming system.
3) If somebody didn't have a computer that could run the game it would cost them "400 dollars" for that free game too. Also the PS3 bundles are 300 dollars.
4) Pretty much the rest of your post deals with how little you actually know about "the BIz side of software".
Except for the really big franchises, not that many games are cross platform between consoles and PC.
All Games can be ported from console to PC and PC to console. The more complex the game, the more work that is required. Not to mention with a console a developer knows what the hardware specs are and will be.
When the game was announced at GDC Europe in 2009 it was announced as a console game with no specifics as to what console.
Of course Sony gets money out of people purchasing things on their console, that is no different than any other game on the console, or different than Microsoft getting a part of every sale on the 360.
As to being a PS3 exclusive instead of on the 360, if you really had even the tiniest bit of knowledge of the industry you would already know this. There would be no way to meet both Sony's and Microsoft's requirements and still keep connectivity across all systems involved. Then when deciding between one console or the other, Sony's policies and willingness to make accommodations for what CCP wanted to do was much more favorable.
It was monocles that were the really pricey item and it was in the 60 to 70 dollar range.
It is in the 11 to 16 dollar range for an account.
It starts with a k, it's a brand.
Now shut up and let me drink my Koolaid, it's purple flavored.
Like I said if you think paying for the game 50-60 dollars is free its not.
Also there are games that require beyond PSN and Xboxlive accounts with them.
Lastly I said any game can be ported but porting from Console to PC is 4x as easy, and it is.
You are turning your last part into sony vs microsoft, I dont care about that.
CCP chose PS3 thats fine just as long as PC guys get it as well.
I understand the Biz side just fine Sony could say we get exclusive rights but that is versus other consoles.
So like I said I have Xbox360 because I like its network alot more, that said if Dust was on it alone I would be pissed. Its not right you PS3 guys who played Eve and invested Thousands of dollars need another system to play that half of the game PERIOD. Xbox vs PS3 I get not having it on PC makes 0 sense.
Hell in my Comp Sci Class we had a guy for his final project mod a PC to play his 2 of his PS3 games.
He know works for UBISOFT, they took 3x as long tailoring down ASCreed 3 for Xbox than PS3 but it was made for PC first. ALL GAMES ARE. All games that are made with all 3 systems in mind are made with PC first because once you can build that much performance the engines are easier to dumb down than to ramp up from the weakest of the 3 in the Xbox.
The game doesn't cost 50 to 60 dollars, that is the part you keep missing. The cost of the game costs 0 dollars.
Yes, there are games that require beyond having a PSN, just like playing a lot of games on a PC require more than an internet connection. My comment was strictly in respect to the cost of accessing the game on the PS3 versus a PC, the requirements are the hardware and an internet connection. The PSN access required has no cost.
The last part of my post being about Sony vs Microsoft was only to point out why PS3 was chosen over 360. I will agree that overall the Live service provides a much better interaction for users than the PSN, which justifies the cost associated with a Live account.
Many multiple system ports are developed for the weakest system first, since the process of getting them running on the other systems will be that much easier. The games that develop for a stronger system first usually do so because they can expect strong sales on that platform that make the increased cost and difficulty worth it. It is actually really sad to see a title come across on the PS3/360/PC that has the Wii as a primary console.
I would much prefer DUST514 to be on a PC, since that is what I prefer to game on, especially with shooters. The thousands of dollar invested in a computer is a bit excessive. That said, it isn't the other half of the game. It is a separate game PERIOD. Not having it on PC if already committed to even one console makes a lot of sense due to cost. Multiple consoles may not double cost but they do increase it.
Your example from your Comp Sci Class proves that with a PC and an emulator you can run a program locally, the important difference is the connection to an outside system. It is also in contradiction to your comments about it being easier to make a game for PC and then port it to a console. It points out how 'easy' it is to port from console to PC not the other way around like you have claimed.
So your example is a single game, I'll use 3 examples about games made for consoles first. Dark Souls, Prototype 2 (and the first one too but i won't count that one). They are all MADE on a PC, but defiantly not made for them first. Games made on the PC first perform much better on the PC, and run well on the 360 but occasionally run into issues on the PS3.
Games are only easier to dumb down if you build that into the engine, and make the extra assets required. It is a hell of a lot easier to make a game for your weakest console and not ramp it up to take full advantage of your stronger consoles.
All modern engines are made to scale down, I am a software engineer.
Bnty is 100% correct. Modern Game Engines Scale down like champs and are all made to scale down otherwise they arent used.
For instance Crytek`s engines are used just because that reason.
I did not make a claim against the ability of an engine to scale a game down. I've said that it is far easier and cheaper to produce a game based around the weakest system and not scale the game at all. No matter how good the engine is as scaling something down, you will run into issues when you want to maximize use of that weaker system you will still have to adjust.
The problem i have is the blanket statement that all games are made that way and that it is always easier to start from the more powerful system. It is only more beneficial to start at the higher end and downgrade when compared to starting at the low and upgrading.
I have watched dozens of games come through in the last few years that take this approach. It is sad as hell to see it happen and for the most part they are really bad games to begin with, but to make the statement that all games are produced in the fashion he indicated is absolutely false. Even games that come through produced for the stronger system and scaled down sometimes end up being wrecks, because some developers and production companies just use the ability of an engine to scale some things down and don't make the effort or pay the expense of really optimizing it.
Yeah, you will need "playstation plus" to play dust 514 ($50 US a year), or buy the hard copy from the store(which comes with AUR). So not really free unless you already own playstation plus for some unknown reason.
Post a link to this info or STFU
No one has confirmed you wont need the pay for PSN to play DUST, in fact its been stated a few times that its probably gonna be needed to play since it will require downloads all the time…..Dumbasses calling Hunter a Dumbass for using his brain.
Post one saying its 100% F2play with 0 sub costs or buying fee`s etc.
And BTW CCP has never ever changed there minds. Lol Sheep….Same Sheeple who Were defending CCP about 50$ monocle`s
Bullshit. You do NOT need play station plus. PS+ members are simply the latest group of people added to the beta.
"are you stupid?" well seeing as how the game is free to play right up until you want something beyond 1 gun and a suit to wear i guess you right… oh wait thats right you have to buy it if you're not a Sony Plus member which also costs 50$ a year so you can buy the hard copy for 50$ or buy the Sony Plus for 50$. Yeah… that's totally FREE.
No, playstation network is free, there is a 'PSPlus' that is subscription and allows for certain things, but nothing on the pay-to-win level. More things such as uploading save files so that i can start from my save point from any PS3 as long as i'm signed in.
There are going to be pay to win gaming if its free. Imagine Counterstrike but instead of earning money you could buy the advanced guns right away.
Also PSN is free just like Xbox live is, It sucks unless you play its "Gold" membership, you cant use netflix or other apps etc
Funny how you PS3 owners are super pissed when others want it on PC as well.
Also your telling me you wont have to pay for Dust it will download 100% free you wont have to pay for PSN and there wont be buy to win WOT style gold ammo etc? Keep dreaming, or wake up and tell me how they make money.
1.If they sell it as a game for 60 bucks thats not f2play
2.If they require prem PSN membership which alot of companies do then its not F2play
3.If they dont do either there WILL BE IWIN BUTTONS YOU CAN BUY INCLUDING GUNS ARMOR VEHICLE UPGRADES otherwise they wont make money.
You're not in the Beta are you?
If you were you would know that everything you just wrote is wrong. The game is free to play. It does not require a PS+ membership. It will be available to anyone with a PS3. You cannot buy any armor, weapons or items that give you any in game advantage over someone who does not pay. THERE IS NO GOLD AMMO !!!!!
Let me repeat that. THERE IS NO GOLD AMMO or anything like it.
You can choose to buy items that are …
- A different skin.
- Can be used at one skill level less (ie you can use large blasters at L4 instead of L5)
- Items that can increase skill points earned for a few days.
There is NOTHING that gives you a more powerfully weapon or armor that you could not otherwise get for FREE
PS3 isn't pay per month fucktard.
Somehow I have the impression Sony played them well.
Unhuh . . . same way Star Wars, and Star Trek beat Eve. Run along derp . . .
Because fps sells better on a console. In case you missed it the console's have pretty much won on the gaming front. It is a very smart move by ccp because they can take from a much larger player base . Everyone is hoping they fail and I don't understand it. They are pioneering a new front in gaming. It's very exciting. I play both pc and console and like both very much. I'm hoping they can help change the way we think of gaming in all forms.
I think CCP and Sony is betting on the huge "kids doing stupid stuff with their parent's credit card" market…
You people really need to read up on the free 2 play model. It is making huge waves. It works and if done right doesn't give you undue advantage as so far dust doesn't with it's free 2 play model. It's a win win. Those who wish can show off that they have money and niceties while still having to play to earn and the company makes crap tons of cash. I really fail to see your problem with it. No one is forcing you to buy anything and those "kids with their parent's credit card" as you call them are actually primarily adults. Again, you guys are the minority. Rage, cry, troll, but it is fact and not going away. If you hate it that much ignore it's existence and go on.
Not on console…F2Play is huge on PC…Mech warrior online, LOL, WOT etc etc
Please show me a free to buy free to play game on console thats making huge waves.
You cant say MW3 and battlefield are F2Play they arent you pay 60 dollars to play them until the next comes out where you pay 60 more.
Lol you cant ignore it if they make taking planets more valuble than Moons….Lol ignore it.
Ignore 95% of 00 sec politics and gameplay, good call.
No, it's that CCP correctly assumed that Microsoft would never let them do anything remotely like what they wanted to do, because MS wants everything to stay on their servers where they can monitor everything. Add to that the ridiculous cost of running a continously updated MMO. A hotfix that CCP could deploy immediately to a PC user or a PS3 user would take weeks of 'verification and testing' through MS, and they would have to pay to deploy said hotfix. Take a game like BF3 for example. PC and PS3 users got the first set of updates weeks before the 360 users, and the only reason they all started to release concurrently is because EA and DICE held back their patches to all drop on the same day that MS says the 360 one can.
Sony is much more open to the needs of their partners within the industry (they wouldn't be if they weren't in 3rd place in the console wars, but that's another discussion).
This isnt Msoft vs Sony this is pick one and add PC.
I agree Msoft gets there hands on everything. Hell I have an Xbox360 and even I agree out of the 2 go with PS3 because it has a more mature audience, but without PC side it will fail IMO.
Somebody is butt hurt about it being on console.
Someone wants to stay anon because they cant take 5 mins to register and be held accountable for what they say.
All they guys who are Anon`s who dont sign in shouldnt be able to vote even.
It could be 3 guys all posting.
PS3 hasnt won FPS are you crazy? If anything its Xbox and Xbox live, last I looked they had 3x the membership.
And number 2 it doesnt matter if Consoles win in the gaming front they can be ported from PS3 to PC in 2-3 weeks tops. Esp PS3 which is made with porting games in mind.
Point is it didnt have to be one or the other and 100% of there fanbase now is PC so PC should come first, also Dust will never beat MW,battlefield etc its going to be a Niche game like Cyrsis was and Farcry. And How well did counter strike do on Console
They are stupid, they have 400k die hard PC gamers ready to play a FPS and they make a random PS3 only game?
If you like consoles good for you play them but they should have given us the option.
And who cares if it sells better, I thought it was free.
I hope they do so they open it up to PC so they arent limited in depth or scope like they will be on console only.
You obviously can't read. I didn't say ps3 I said consoles won. Get your facts straight before you run the mouth. You obviously don't know as much about game writing as you think if you believe it would be a 2-3 week port. The war of ps3 vs xbox is an arbitrary one as ps3 sales have evened out and they are the only competition to the xbox 360 now that wii has pretty well died. So choosing one is a matter of preference. I'm not on any side. I like all 3 and own all 3. I'm merely stating the obvious math. Consoles are an easy win. MMOG's are the only thing still fairing well on pc and even that could change with the outcomes of DC Universe (as according to sony they have more players on ps3 than comp). Oh and that free 2 play model your raging over is a superior model to pay 2 play and is the future of MMOG's. Might want to get used to it. More importantly nothing you buy is going to change the face of the game for you. It's preference again. I am in beta for dust and so far I like it more than all the other fps' I play. You can troll all you want, but those arbitrary things you say won't change fact.
I dont care what you said game is coming out on PS3, so for this argument that is the console.
I write work for a software company, who ports programs from one platform to another.
Read this carefully, fro ma console to a PC is very very easy. From a PC to a console takes time and alot of changes…..So since they made it for PS3 using there API and Toolkit it is very easy to move over. Grand theft auto for instance was made for PS3 and took 1 month to port to PC. But took 4-5 to move it to Xbox.
We all like Run and gun games its why I play my Xbox, this is my point. But games with heavy MMO leaning tendencies are always PC with 1 rule breaker being mass effect, but its not truly MMO just a big RPG.
Consoles are only an "Easy win" when you are selling games to Tweens who come home at 3pm from school and wanna play a few matches, not Corps who have to bust sov at 3am in there TZ because they will lose there foothold on a star system….Come on think about it. Also over half the MW guys I play with are 12-15 and would you really expect them to carry out expensive and perfectly timed attacks with support etc? Lol yeah right, they come on and off as they please.
And the serious clans who are always top gamers guess what? They are the same kind of guys who play PC games the same 1-2 mil die hard gamers are the same that own in every game. Guys like PL and Others also could pwn in WOT in MW3 in BF etc etc
Most sales arent the sales Eve wants or needs, Dust isnt gona be a part time game, not if empires rise and fall with them. So this means that us serious Evers will have to cave and buy PS3`s if we want to control both Air and Ground….That is BS
Every bitter comment about being on console comes from those without the console, i have both, and FPS on console is completely different from FPS on PC from gameplay to overall atmosphere and community. It's an attempt to expand the community, there are plenty of die hard EvE players that own a PS3 and are already hardcore in the beta, and those same people will have console fps friends that never got into eve but will when the concept of interactive gaming comes into the picture. Those who are saying it's a bad decision are just butt hurt because they don't have a console. CCP made a great marketing move with PS3. Allowing the game to be ftp as a billboard for EvE expansion rather than xbox live's subscription payments.
Your crazy I love my console, in fact I find it way way easier than upgrading my machine every 2 years to game. I love my 360 as much as my PC.
But its simple, when I want super ultra depth gaming I use my PC, when I want to relax from work or when Im in between deployments in the military, I want my Xbox.
Its simple 1 is more mindless 1 is more in depth IMO, and numbers back that up.
AVG age of XBOX player=12
AVG age of PS3=14
AVG Age of Eve= I have seen is 20`s
2 million copies of GTA 4 were bought by parents for kids under 16.
Those kids dont wanna play Eve or a super in depth game linked to it….Lol
1 Blueballed fleet fight where they wait 3 hours for a timer of some sort that never happens=Not going to do it ever again.
Also the real thing that makes Eve special is the sandbox, you can lie cheat steal….Try doing that in there little pubbie games and its against most EULA`s…Lol they will never accept it.
CCP needs to understand Eve is for about 5% of gamers but those that like it love it and will defend it hardcore, Think of what a Evefanfest for monderwarfare would look like ….LOL A bunch of pimple faced teens not dancing watching girls…
Sorry but bigfangests etc like IGN throws are the 5% of Audults who play consoles but the vast minority to be sure.
I LOVE MY CONSOLE, that doesnt mean its a good idea for Eve`s sister game to only be on one, its infact a bad one.
Right and releasing an unknown FPS by a mainly unknown developer at almost the same time as Halo 4 and Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 is sheer genius.
right because halo 4 is coming out for ps3?
They're not unknown. IGN, for one, did a main piece with Soundwave at E3. Also, I'm pretty sure that DUST was one of the main presentations there. If people STILL don't know about DUST or CCP, they're living under a rock.
Switch your brains on. Looking at the competition does not always make sense. It helps to see where the market is going, but it stops making sense when you start dodging your own releases. When you do not compete then you have already lost. And those who are interested in DUST are certainly not interested in waiting for it.
CCP needs to get the game out regardless of what the competition does. Besides, you cannot connect Halo or COD with another game so you might as well tell their makers to watch out for DUST…
I think that Planetside 2 is much more of a competition for Dust then Halo or COD, since it's essentially the same game, similar mechanics and so on.
How about MWO? Eventually they will have drop ships and you will own planets but fight for them…..How easy would it be for a huge gaming studio like that to add a Eve side of things.
MWO "dream" to have a Universe like Eve Online in 5 or 6 years….developer words
And they have started with the dust side, but with a huge following.
unknown, you cant even go to youtube nowadays without an eve ad
that mostly is due to your cookies and surfing habits. Targetted marketing is the new black!
Even EvE is largely unknown outside of either players or gaming community fans. It's never been about mass marketing, it's about sustainable product through a loyal fan base.
Halo 4 is for xbox, ps3 lacks a good shooter, cod doesnt count, as it's for children
Fact is most console games are semi shallow FPS where its run and gun, Console does not do well with deep games like computer does or they would make Eve online on console as well.
So whats gonna happen is Planetside MWO and other new games coming out will kill it badly and guys who want to mindlessly kill will continue to play battlefield etc.
Its simple really the counterstrike shooting and not really in depth 5 min round type games are on console this is supposed to be a huge back storied entire universe and now half or more Eve players wont be able to play it?
Like I said make it for both thats fine but PS3 only is stupid. Its not MW3,Halo type shallow game it includes a whole other game that depend on eachother….Sorry its not gonna draw much crowd and that crowd cares about graphics action and gameplay 10x more than story and from what I have seen gameplay and graphics are decent and its gonna get ripped apart by exactly what im saying…Wrong market .
Console=Less intensive MMO`s
PC=Way more
And they are saying Dust just isnt an FPS but a MMORPGFPS
The amount of rage in all your posts is what makes the world turn. Keep it up you big hater. i jus hope you dont mash your fingers to a nub before the game actually hits so we can ensure 3k more years of world spinning.
Your hate. IT FUELS US!
yes console is less intensive mmo it also makes it a more accessible mmo, and you cannot say the full fat eve experience is nice and accessible.
ive heard countless dust players already say theyre loving being part of eve online but with less intensity and more accessibility than trying to tackle the full eve client on PC.
and you could say that Planetside3 is going to be gunning for the same people, but there is a difference in console and PC shooters. personally console shooters are more sociable shooters. by that i mean u and a group of ur friends that u live near go and play a console shooter in the same room. rather than PC shooters who generally tend not to (some do go to lan parties i admit)
dust is looking to grab that small co-op teamplay console shooter market. as ive no ps3 myself ive not tried dust514, im unsure if you can run split screen with 2 players on the same console.. but i suspect CCP and sony wouldnt tie their hand behind their back by allowing only 1 player per console. if so… facepalm!
Lol thats because the dust players are beta testers lols……Meaning 99% of them are Eve players also.
What we anti only 1 system people are saying is its gonna get crushed by more mainstream games that have less think to them.
The avg MW player does not want to wait 3 hours for a major battle or be on CTA watch etc, but they will if it comes to losing a major asset like a planet.
Of course Beta players love it i ma beta MWO and I love it or I wouldnt have signed up as one lols.
More items on market and more ways to make isk, SWEET!
@BntyHunter I have met some fucktards on this site, but you take the biscuit sir. Eve online is not for you, WoW is for you. Dust is not for you, COD is for you. I will not tell you why you are wrong, others have already, I will tell you that the constant spam of misinformation to try and kill a game… cos you dont like it… kinda sad. Now little troll, go back under your bridge, your work is done… I have a headache from your failures, i do not want to read any more.
You are retarded I have been playing and loving Eve since 05, thats why I wish they would use PC`s so they would succeed, im almost assured I have played Eve longer than you, Hell I have been here longer than most, and still Hotdropping and loving it.
Unlike you I dont wanna have these planets turn into our tech when Dust comes out and rely on some pubbie 10 year old to take care of my alliance or to make sure my Titan isnt killed as a baby.
PS3 is simply not the hardcore crowd that PC is period, otherwise Eve would be there. A Eve would tank on PS3.
So, can anyone tell me why these items are showing for EVE pilots if they are dust specific.
Honestly I have no idea how the 2 games will interact and I am genuinly interested so no trolling (if possible, this is EN24 afterall) pelase…!
EvE players will eventually be able to buy the items and give to Dust players i do believe.
You will see PC port of DUST sooner then you think
I agree, PS3 will flop on its own and lose hard to planetside, CCP not wanting to lose the work they did will make it PC accessible, we will all have now 2 major diff accounts 1 or 2 in air 1 on ground and there will be 15-20% of us Eve players who prefer the controller layout more or dont have good enough graphics cards for dust but they do for eve.
1 year after Dust we will have it on PC I agree, I just wish they would skip the "Its costing us tons and didnt output shit lets port to PC" moment.
So the game on the PS3 (DUST) will lose hard due to people playing the game being released on the PC (Planetside 2). So how would releasing on the PC be a good idea then, when apparently they can't compete against what else will be on the PC. Sure would make a lot more sense to release on the system where you don't have a primary competitor like that.
You awnsered yourself, instead of on opening having PC/Eve guys play Dust they will play planetside, get serious in game then when finally intr`od to Dust wont want to invest in such a game again.
Also Dust doesnt hold a candle to PS 2
I can see the 'troll' larva wriggling their way towards their parent's plastic now…
In 6 months , dust 514 will be the next eve expansion
Goodness, the arguments and criticisms and the hate wars in the comments are baffling to me.
Is it because of the game itself, or because CCP is taking a new approach at things, trying something which has never been done before, or because it's exclusively PS3, or because EVE has been solely on computer and so EVE players who don't have consoles are angry?
I knew that something like Dust 514 would spark lots of controversy over pretty much every aspect of the game itself, but guys, as much as you may like or hate it, try to keep your reviews of this game as objective as possible, and less subjective. Half of all the comments here are filled with Personal Opinion vs. Personal Opinion, with a few who actually know what they are talking about and are conveying it in an objective manner so anyone can understand despite their opinions.
Dust 514 is a new idea, and there's a general trend in history that when someone tries something new which has never been done before, results are generally not what they (or anyone else) expected at first. Keep your subjective comments to yourself until the game actually comes out and people see first-hand whether this can be considered a success or not.
Most love Idea about Dust just dont like that they didnt include PC, which is super easy, anyone who says it isnt hasnt worked with software and esp with modern game engines.
Lowering Engines is a requirement nowadays for games.
Actually the Cheap games with custom engines are usually PC only, but if they are PC and a Console its usually a proper engine.
Bnty is right Comp Sci students are taught to port games in some advanced classes nowdays, they are students.
Dust is ok. Just bought a console for first time in my life. Am swayed.
Here's a thought here for everyone who wants Dust to fail. What do you think is going to happen afterwards? You seriously think CCP is just going to say "Opps, our bad, let's all go back to working on EVE"? No, they'll lose money, suffer things like layoffs and our updates will be delayed even more and they'll be smaller. Shut up and just hope that Dust succeeds so that more money goes to CCP and then they can do more for both Dust and EVE.
Well I wish it was for xbox 360 or PC because sadly I will be missing out. Not going to buy a PS3 with next gen consoles coming out next year.