Comments on: Greedy Goblin: Bubble-camp Survival Guide

By: wootsnoot

wootsnoot — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 09:53:37 +0000

you should listen to "Born of 0.0"…..

By: Frank

Frank — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 06:10:53 +0000

Well, how else am I supposed to play microwarp golf?

By: lolscrub

lolscrub — Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:04:14 +0000

You are an idiot and either a 3 month old Test Rifterpilot or a troll. Hush now while people who play this game for more then a few weeks and actually know gatecamp mechanics tell you this: You fitted an AB and land in a decent gatecamp which is not run by people like you, you die! That is all. Period.

By: obs

obs — Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:31:57 +0000

This is not a forum. No one can help you with your disbelieve. Either STFU or try yourself.

By: toll

toll — Sun, 19 Aug 2012 08:40:16 +0000

should add when your coming in to a pull/stop bubble that you should see on dscan and it has cans for decloaking, the best method for dealing with those is to decloak while still in warp so that when you land you can immediately cloak and MWD away from the tacklers.

By: Born of 0.0

Born of 0.0 — Sun, 19 Aug 2012 07:45:42 +0000

My point remains, you have a better chance of survival using a MWD than an AB for 2 reasons, which are the same, mentioned by others.
Speed.

Your sig radius is irrelevant when you are cloaked, therefore MWD>AB. Your tank is also irrelevant when cloaked (MWD>AB)

If I did not make it clear in my other post, MWD is also > AB whilst uncloaked, as covering the distance between the gates in a small amount of time is better than slow boating with an AB.

The reason for this is that you can cover a greater distance in a MWD frig before being locked than you can in a AB frig (fact). If, for whatever reason you are locked before you reach gate, and become scrammed and webbed, the speed at which you are traveling with the MWD will carry you forwards an extra few kms (especially with the 1 second tic) which is more than enough in 99% of cases to get to the gate before big things can hit you.
Now, in a majority of these cases where a MWD will save you, an AB will get you killed. If you happen to be in a situation where you would die with a MWD, you would find yourself in a pod alot quicker were you using an AB.

Please, devise a scenario where your AB frig will outdo a MWD frig, and then before you post, think about how many times this scenario would occur compared to scenarios where MWD>AB.

By: @Ubiquitousnewt

@Ubiquitousnewt — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:47:07 +0000

I have never, ever had tank save me on any ship smaller than a BS, or burning back to gate, save me at a gatecamp. The MWD+cloak trick on the other hand works most of the time.

By: THALES

THALES — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 15:05:33 +0000

THIS SOLUTION WILL BE JUST TEMPORARY THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE ENGAGED IN PVP WILL FIND SOLUTION TO COUNTER THIS OLD TECHNIQUE

By: obs

obs — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 12:49:27 +0000

The point is that ABs leave you a low signature and you use the remaining PG for a tank of course. I should have mentioned it perhaps and I do not know why I didn't. I thought it was obvious from my argument of going with a low signature.

Nothing is idiot proof, but you can get a 9k eHP buffer tank and more out of a Helios. It is usually enough to get back to the gate and try again when you have come out too close to a tackler.

MWDing sure is nice, but it is just a matter of luck where you have come out and if you can find a straight path. Too many objects in your path will decloak you and it then only needs the attention of one pilot to get catch you, while preparing for this event and using the sig advantage, and of course a tank, means that several campers need to be paying attention.

Does this explain it better?

By: Born of 0.0

Born of 0.0 — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 11:49:33 +0000

I was taking your example of worst case scenario where you are unable to cloak for whatever reason, maybe they have an instalock cepter, point remains.
Due to your arguments lacking basic structure and being unable to interpret or recognise valid points made by others, I would in a normal circumstance accuse you of trolling, but I will leave it up to the administrators to determine if that is against their intended uses for this website. *insert goon propaganda here*

By: obs

obs — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 09:00:55 +0000

You are pretty much an idiot when your worst case scenario is to have forgotten how to cloak.

By: DiscrimmiNation

DiscrimmiNation — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:11:09 +0000

TL:DR
He needs to get the fuck over himself.

By: DiscrimmiNation

DiscrimmiNation — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:09:30 +0000

No, he's a prick with a fucking hugely inflated ego who keeps posting shit on this site about what a fucking uber gamer he is just coz he "mastered" (lol) WoW gold or some gay as fuck shit like that. He's managed to alienate 99% of the people who read this site with his egotistical bollocks (look it up, I got better things to do) so it comes as no surprise that it took him this long to learn some extremely obvious and basic game mechanics most likely because he's got no mates to fly with. As an ex recruitment officer this guy wouldn't just get denied entry to my corp, he'd get invited to an alt corp I would set up especially to rip this turd off for everything he owned.

By: @Ubiquitousnewt

@Ubiquitousnewt — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 07:32:56 +0000

Pro tip? This actually works. Not all the time, not vs. interdictors, not vs. Serious Business gatecamps with 10+ ships and bubbles in damn near every direction…but more often than not it'll get you past the typical gatecamp of one dude with his two chump alts (which seems to be about how many installations of Eve your average Call of Duty zombie can run before his video card lags…). With no bubbles, you will hardly ever die using these techniques in lowsec.

By: @Ubiquitousnewt

@Ubiquitousnewt — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 07:25:48 +0000

Burning back to gate actually will get you killed more than successfully running it, in my experience. You're visible, you're locked, you're alpha'd. …as opposed to cloaked, MWDing away from the clusterfuck, and getting to where you want to go.