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	<title>Comments on: Greedy Goblin: AfterTech &#8211; Alliance Budgets</title>
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		<title>By: goblinsux</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/08/15/greedy-goblin-aftertech-alliance-budgets/comment-page-1/#comment-142512</link>
		<dc:creator>goblinsux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ugh, not this dumb ass again.  The only thing he seems capable of is sound really dumb loudly. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh, not this dumb ass again.  The only thing he seems capable of is sound really dumb loudly. </p>
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		<title>By: Hemmo Paskiainen</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/08/15/greedy-goblin-aftertech-alliance-budgets/comment-page-1/#comment-142375</link>
		<dc:creator>Hemmo Paskiainen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can someone mail me who this dude is? Maing 40b a month alone, steady income is hughly difficult. So i dont rly believe him. Also hes talking shit, like you can monitor ppl pve&#237;ng or something. Tells me you never have been in null sec. I wish ppl stop talking about stuff they dont knwo anything about.... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone mail me who this dude is? Maing 40b a month alone, steady income is hughly difficult. So i dont rly believe him. Also hes talking shit, like you can monitor ppl pve&iacute;ng or something. Tells me you never have been in null sec. I wish ppl stop talking about stuff they dont knwo anything about&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: Random Miner</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/08/15/greedy-goblin-aftertech-alliance-budgets/comment-page-1/#comment-142159</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Miner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 04:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Though I did enjoy the actual point of the article, does he have to insist (IN EVERY FUCKING ARTICLE) he is the richest, and most smartiest pilot out there. It gets old, and when someone insists they are cool, no one will believe it. 
 
But again, I did enjoy reading about the economics, so please keep that up.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I did enjoy the actual point of the article, does he have to insist (IN EVERY FUCKING ARTICLE) he is the richest, and most smartiest pilot out there. It gets old, and when someone insists they are cool, no one will believe it. </p>
<p>But again, I did enjoy reading about the economics, so please keep that up.  </p>
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		<title>By: Messina</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/08/15/greedy-goblin-aftertech-alliance-budgets/comment-page-1/#comment-141892</link>
		<dc:creator>Messina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tech1 ships are not really effected by supply and demand really, minerals are, and can effect the prices of tech1 ships.  Tech2 hulls on the other hand are effected by supply and demand simply b/c the BPC need to be invented, and there is a limited amount on the market at any given time b/c of demand,  this is of course on top of moon mineral supply and demand.  Well if there is money to be made on canes for instance, someone will buy the BPO, and build them. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tech1 ships are not really effected by supply and demand really, minerals are, and can effect the prices of tech1 ships.  Tech2 hulls on the other hand are effected by supply and demand simply b/c the BPC need to be invented, and there is a limited amount on the market at any given time b/c of demand,  this is of course on top of moon mineral supply and demand.  Well if there is money to be made on canes for instance, someone will buy the BPO, and build them. </p>
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		<title>By: @xxxAlloxxx</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/08/15/greedy-goblin-aftertech-alliance-budgets/comment-page-1/#comment-141838</link>
		<dc:creator>@xxxAlloxxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You sir are a idiot. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sir are a idiot. </p>
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		<title>By: Messina</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/08/15/greedy-goblin-aftertech-alliance-budgets/comment-page-1/#comment-141779</link>
		<dc:creator>Messina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 19:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are tons of alliance in nullsec that don&#039;t have reimbursement programs, you have just been spoiled and don&#039;t even know it.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are tons of alliance in nullsec that don&#039;t have reimbursement programs, you have just been spoiled and don&#039;t even know it.   </p>
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		<title>By: -A- FC</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/08/15/greedy-goblin-aftertech-alliance-budgets/comment-page-1/#comment-141770</link>
		<dc:creator>-A- FC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 19:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[-A- can pay for all bills as well as for reimbursements on key ships such as T3s dictors and logistics. We fight 23/7 and often do enjoy losing ships and yet the isk keeps flowing. Hulls and some modules are replaced like for like by ones we make/farm ourselves without sole reliance on any markets. 
 
-A- use our isk income purely to PVP. We have a large isk and meterial income and good reserves (without any Tech) which we manage well. What leadership in other alliance does with their isk and resources is very questionable but we are enjoying whittling through hostiles and at some point their tech runs out... which will be a sad day for our killboard :(  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-A- can pay for all bills as well as for reimbursements on key ships such as T3s dictors and logistics. We fight 23/7 and often do enjoy losing ships and yet the isk keeps flowing. Hulls and some modules are replaced like for like by ones we make/farm ourselves without sole reliance on any markets. </p>
<p>-A- use our isk income purely to PVP. We have a large isk and meterial income and good reserves (without any Tech) which we manage well. What leadership in other alliance does with their isk and resources is very questionable but we are enjoying whittling through hostiles and at some point their tech runs out&#8230; which will be a sad day for our killboard <img src='http://evenews24.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
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		<title>By: crazy hun</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/08/15/greedy-goblin-aftertech-alliance-budgets/comment-page-1/#comment-141753</link>
		<dc:creator>crazy hun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 19:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Talking about propaganda: I linked the article but the comment wasn&#039;t approved by the admins... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about propaganda: I linked the article but the comment wasn&#039;t approved by the admins&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/08/15/greedy-goblin-aftertech-alliance-budgets/comment-page-1/#comment-141746</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Idk how to make that much in null sec, but what I do is put an alt in w-space corp, and making 50b a month is pretty easy,  just half ass farming. Trying to make isk in nullsec is a waste of time after the trusec nerf, compared to other income sources available. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idk how to make that much in null sec, but what I do is put an alt in w-space corp, and making 50b a month is pretty easy,  just half ass farming. Trying to make isk in nullsec is a waste of time after the trusec nerf, compared to other income sources available. </p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/08/15/greedy-goblin-aftertech-alliance-budgets/comment-page-1/#comment-141744</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 18:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[with the old northern coalition in the north tech price was stable at around 80k isk. it seems like they got enough isk from the tech for hundreds of jumpbridges, sov bils, replacement programms, and as the enemys of the nc said also enough income for heavy rmt to pay for the leaders real life bills. 
 
now the tech price is 100k isk and suddenly its not even enough to pay sov bills?  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with the old northern coalition in the north tech price was stable at around 80k isk. it seems like they got enough isk from the tech for hundreds of jumpbridges, sov bils, replacement programms, and as the enemys of the nc said also enough income for heavy rmt to pay for the leaders real life bills. </p>
<p>now the tech price is 100k isk and suddenly its not even enough to pay sov bills?  </p>
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		<title>By: indy</title>
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		<dc:creator>indy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nice damage control bees ;) big fan of your propaganda :* ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice damage control bees <img src='http://evenews24.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  big fan of your propaganda :* </p>
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		<title>By: whatever</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/08/15/greedy-goblin-aftertech-alliance-budgets/comment-page-1/#comment-141703</link>
		<dc:creator>whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[depends... cheap technetium also means cheap t2 hulls - and this will cause some people who would have to fly bcs at 220k ISK pu Tech to fly HACs instead, reducing the demand for t1 bcs. 
that&#039;s the substitution effect. 
 
in addition you have a wealth effect which may go either way ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>depends&#8230; cheap technetium also means cheap t2 hulls &#8211; and this will cause some people who would have to fly bcs at 220k ISK pu Tech to fly HACs instead, reducing the demand for t1 bcs.<br />
that&#039;s the substitution effect. </p>
<p>in addition you have a wealth effect which may go either way </p>
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		<title>By: IRC dude</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/08/15/greedy-goblin-aftertech-alliance-budgets/comment-page-1/#comment-141701</link>
		<dc:creator>IRC dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys should see a IRC alliance mining fleet sometime...   They sure as shit can&#039;t PvP, but IRC is da best carebears in the game..    And IRC has had for a long time implemented this guys suggestions.  IRC never has done moon mining at all,  and the Alliance still survives just fine.   Sov bills get paid (and big ones too. Look at the sov map theres a cyno gen and jump bridge in every system.)   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys should see a IRC alliance mining fleet sometime&#8230;   They sure as shit can&#039;t PvP, but IRC is da best carebears in the game..    And IRC has had for a long time implemented this guys suggestions.  IRC never has done moon mining at all,  and the Alliance still survives just fine.   Sov bills get paid (and big ones too. Look at the sov map theres a cyno gen and jump bridge in every system.)   </p>
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		<title>By: The Martini</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/08/15/greedy-goblin-aftertech-alliance-budgets/comment-page-1/#comment-141699</link>
		<dc:creator>The Martini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, I do. I only do not care enough about it to go into full detail here like a raging nerd. There are not just sinks and wells, but there layers of them. For 0.0 alliances is it unimportant if their ISKs comes from bounties or from other players, or of the ISKs disappear in sov bills or the wallets of outside players. They have their own logic of sinks and wells, which sits on top of the game mechanic&#039;s sinks and wells and which has got its own semantic. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I do. I only do not care enough about it to go into full detail here like a raging nerd. There are not just sinks and wells, but there layers of them. For 0.0 alliances is it unimportant if their ISKs comes from bounties or from other players, or of the ISKs disappear in sov bills or the wallets of outside players. They have their own logic of sinks and wells, which sits on top of the game mechanic&#039;s sinks and wells and which has got its own semantic. </p>
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		<title>By: Vanquisher</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/08/15/greedy-goblin-aftertech-alliance-budgets/comment-page-1/#comment-141697</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanquisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish you good luck in that model. After few weeks your alliance fleet would be like 50 man. Bloob era battles are more or less meatgrinders with logistic pilots losing their ships like on every cta. Around 220 m per fited scimitar with  lets say up to 4 lost per week.  4h-5h of grinding anoms to replace one lost scimitar thats 20h a week to keep up. CTA last 2-5h sometimes more. Thats another 20h a week. 40h online to be able to fight and replace ships. 6h a day of just playing eve every day. That would be serious cease of nolife. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish you good luck in that model. After few weeks your alliance fleet would be like 50 man. Bloob era battles are more or less meatgrinders with logistic pilots losing their ships like on every cta. Around 220 m per fited scimitar with  lets say up to 4 lost per week.  4h-5h of grinding anoms to replace one lost scimitar thats 20h a week to keep up. CTA last 2-5h sometimes more. Thats another 20h a week. 40h online to be able to fight and replace ships. 6h a day of just playing eve every day. That would be serious cease of nolife. </p>
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