Update

HBC’s Battle Report by Bagehi

Pings went out to form-up a 49-U defense fleet. The call went out for drakes to counter the Oracle gang that spies said SoCo were forming. Form-up was moving fairly slow. By the time the fleet started to have reasonable numbers of drakes, huginns, scimitars (and fewer kitchen sink ships), and command positions were properly filled, the report came back that AAA had formed a large tengu/scimitar fleet. The fleet was sent back to station to reship into Rokhs. More pings went out for numbers, as SoCo had the HBC fleet badly outnumbered at that point. A second fleet was formed for instacanes to deal with the SoCo bomber fleet that had also formed up. With two fleets well formed to counter the fleet comps SoCo was rolling out in, titans were prepped for bridging. Unfortunately, one of the cynos died however and HBC had to wait for another to get in place. Of course, everything ended up being a mess anyway, and when the call went up for cynos, only one lit and the instacanes bridged out while the Rokhs sat and stared at the shiny titan they were sitting on. With minimal panic (the FC may have been the calmest FC in the history of the game – most would have had a cerebral edema and died with everything that happened with this fight), the FC kicked one person from fleet to fit a cyno in and bridged the rokhs in.

Meanwhile, SoCo had finished off the Test defensive SBU in 49-U. The HBC Rokhs came into 49-U on a red grid. The FC remained remarkably calm. HBC had a spy on SoCo comms calling out their primary targets for the Scimitars to pre-lock in hopes of being able to save them from the fierce alpha strike of 150 tengu missile spam. Meanwhile, the HBC FC called scimitars primary. After a few failed attempts where pilots weren’t following targets in even a remotely close fashion, the FC was able to get the Rokhs to focus fire and began melting through the SoCo logistics. After a few went down, he decided to try his luck with a tengu, but they were far more tanky. Scimitar pilots, meanwhile, were faced with all manner of ewar from tengu midslots, making remote reps nearly non-existent. Despite this, both sides were keeping neck-to-neck in the race through the scimitars, primarily due to the damage delay of missile spam. Meanwhile, the HBC Huginns did their best to keep Makalu webbed down, as his fleet stayed anchored on him and it kept their transversal down as they attempted to move into close quarters several times through the fight. Makalu wasn’t having that and mercilessly mowed through the huginns.

Meanwhile, SoCo Scimitars began using the gate trick to survive alpha attacks. As soon as they saw they were being locked (or they had a spy on comms and told them they were primary), they jumped through the gate they were sitting on. After failing to kill scimitars a few times to this, HBC once more tried its hand on the tengus. A wing/fleet of tornadoes warped in at range in an attempt to snipe off a few Rokhs. They were quickly bubbled and didn’t need focus fire to shred. Rokhs, once more, proving they are the sniping kings. Meanwhile, the tengus had gotten in close on the fleet and the Rokhs were having trouble putting dps on them. They had also almost finished off all the scimitars by this point, so the FC called for the fleet to deagress and burn for the gate. A few ships died, but most that remained were able to get out. The fleet docked up next door and waited for the reinforcement fleet to form up. TiDi hit 10% as the HBC fleet docked at the same time as SoCo jumped in. Local went insane for a while as both sides taunted each other with the regular chest beating.

While the battered HBC fleet waited, we discussed what happened, came up with some responses to the ewar tengus, and announced our favorite kill of the day: Cobra2k’s medium extender tengu.

When the reinforcement fleet finally arrived, we were sitting at fairly weak numbers. We held on the 49-U gate in 5V and hoped SoCo’s hubris would lead them to make the mistake of jumping into a unreinforced system with rokhs sitting at optimal range off the gate. No. Makalu was not feeling reckless. After waiting a while, SoCo moved off and the HBC fleet headed for home. In the end, the blood toll fell primarily on the shoulders of the valiant, selfless Scimitar pilots on both sides.

BATTLE DOC

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Montolio had sent this bit:

Battle Report : https://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=528552
Balance of Power (members in Local) : http://i.imgur.com/FJGSL.png
Honey Badger Coalition Strength : http://i.imgur.com/ifdvW.png

TEST Bombers Doing Their Thing : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo5qdGQNvYw

SoCo’s Battle Report by Bobmon

Another attempt to capture the 49-U6U system just started for SoCo and yesterday they tought Pandemic Legion and TEST a lesson on how to fly ThunderCats® RAWR!.

Objective 49-U6U: SoCo Tastes better than Honey.

A CTA was called by the -A- Team (SoCo) to kill a TEST SBU in 49-U60. Like a profesional pest control team SoCo jumped in to their Oracles to remove this SBU. SoCo undocked and warped to the gate, suddenly we heard that TEST and PL were forming up a fleet that consisted of Rohks and Drakes with Insta Cane Support. Immidiatly the Decision was made to warp back to station and switch for our Glorious ThunderCats setup.

We all undocked and warped back to the 49-U6U gate, after some final checks we jumped in and warped to the test SBU to provoke a fight. but TEST/PL refused to answere our call, so our fc decided to kill the SBU making the walllet of test shrink again.

The SBU died but still no answere, so Maka decided to provoke them even more so he orderd the fleet to warp to the 5V-BJI gate. Finally they answered to our call and the Test/PL fleet Bridged in to 5V-BJI and warped to the 49-U6U gate. TEST/PL jumped in 49-U6U and found them selfs stuck in the middle of the trap of the -A- Team (SoCo). We achord up and started shooting.

PL had done some research on how to counter the SoCo’s ThunderCats and they came to the conclusion that they needed more Huginns. Thanks to some great on the spot Fcing Maka knew what to do and started hammering trough the Scimi support of TEST/PL, Done that we made quick work of the Huggins (pritty simple becouse the Scimi’s that were still alive were focussing on keeping DurrHurrDurr alive). Now Finely being able to start shooting the Rohks, TEST/PL decided to bail out and they jumped back in to 5V-BJI.

Like true Killmail wanting warriors we followed them but we were only able to tackle a hand full of rohks. Wanting for more Kills Our Comms bursted out in to Chicked sounds, laughter, Fight us maybe songs and Fc’s trying to Calm down the Fleet. we went back home and docked up, fleet disbanded.

Battle Report from Eve-kill.net:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14311915

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  • my eyes

    Holy crap there's a lit of spelling errors in the -A- report.

    • pre noob

      lit lit lit lit my eyes to many spelling mistakes

  • Mike

    Test kb link broken for anyone else?

    • my eyes

      Yeah it's broken for me too, and the -A- kb link shows half the HBC fighting each other when it shouldn't be. Bugs everywhere in this E24 post.

      • JustAGuy

        That Test BR must be copy pasted from somewhere else, so it just turned half the url into dots.

        I think this is the KB for the fight in question: https://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=kill_related&k

        • TheRagingTurtle

          Nice killboard, though the little piece of text saying "This battle report has been fixed manually."
          did make me think what could possibly be wrong or right with this killboard :)

          • Tez

            Yeah, TEST is infamous for caring a lot about good kb stats.

          • Highsec Warrior

            "This battle report has been fixed manually." means that the sides have been fixed, i.e. you won't see Test and -A- on the same side of the battle.

  • JustAGuy

    So according to the two completely objective reports, both teams won.

    Congratulations to all.

    (In all seriousness, I find all this propoganda bullshit tiresome. Couldn't somebody say "yeah, we got our shit pushed in pretty good that time." just once?)

    • unsatisfied reader

      Thats odd mittens mother said that about her shit last night.

    • Bagehi

      Neither side had their shit pushed in. Support ships were shredded for both sides. HBC ran out of support ships first and escaped.

      • neutral party

        so they lost all their support, their fleet was no longer combat effective, and they retreated, then -A- RFed the Ihub and completed the mission…. sounds to me like test got their shit pushed in…..

        • hirrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

          winner

  • Anon

    TEST is chewing up -A- and their allies. From talking to TEST pilots, it's clear to me that TEST has no interest in -A- space, they just like blowing -A- up in 49-U6U. -A- isn't nearly strong enough to punch through, so probably it'll just become a stable warzone where people go to have to fun fights. TEST won't attack any further into -A- territory, and -A- will quit making major attempts to take 49-U6U.

    • yep

      Sorry to say it but -A- is gonna keep trying to hit 49-u and other areas of Querious, Delve, PB for months, not like there's anything else to do

      • ROL Grunt

        "…not like there's anything else to do"

        Mate, you couldn´t be more right ´bout this situation !

        What else should we do ? Getting fat from the rats ? Small roam through Jita ?

        I have to confess that, even if it´s fun to feed testie delicious meat to our killboards, to fight without a real chance of getting the system is a little disapointing.

        Well, who knows what future holds ? Let´s keep pushing and punching….maybe the rest of no-goon Eve alliances start to think that goons did enough and, eventually, decide to come and help….

        Good hunt.

        ROL Grunt

        • TestGruntBestGrunt

          You already had/have "the rest of no-goon EVE" on your side ;)

          Actually, that rest of no-goon EVE lost three regions while their masters were comfortably sit on your thumbs.

          But the A's have a fair point – no sov was taken from triple-A. It's quite hard to conquer Stain…

          • Grunt

            Speaking as objectively as possible, those three regions were gonna fall. The no-goon EVE you are talking about that were down south didn't include NCdot, BL., SOLAR, Gypsy, etc. (the latter two are part of the loose southern coalition).

            Last week HBC formed about 1200 (not including FA), and CFC while up north has the potential to form about the same. IF the Delve war had any potential numbers-wise to contest HBC + CFC, the two largest coalitions in the game for numbers and supers, then there would have been 3000+ man locals taking those said 3 regions.

          • yeahderp

            -a- is dead and just doesn't know it yet,. even the propoganda is getting weaker.

          • Crotchface

            Bet you 500,000,000 isk they're still around a year from now. Message me in game and we will work out the details.

          • -A- Dot

            -A- dot.

          • yeahderp

            Sure, i'll take that bet, but they've got to hold sov anyplace. I could form my own alliance of me and my alts and park it in stain and never undock and never die and keep my killboards green.

            Pretty rough when you're biggest bragging point is "hey I'm a cockroach".

          • The14th

            Lol, could have sword I've hear that before…

          • TESTIS

            I think you mean, catch, impass, tenrefis and imminsea. stain empire owns stain

          • TestGruntBestGrunt

            Wooosh.

            The sound of a joke passing in low-flight pattern above your head.

          • Val_V

            What's this? Test Grunt admitting to being a DekCo Goon?

    • actually

      -A- won't quit making major attempts into 49-u… in fact the whole point of this fight regarding the iHub, and it was reinforced.

      TEST chewing up -A- in engagements? More like the other way around. Killboards and data can't be spun.

      • art

        keep killing those rifters.

        • TEST grunt

          LOL. Yes that must be why the HBC fleet pussed out, deaggressed, and ran the fuck away. Because all the rifters were dead.

          • yeahderp

            rifter newbrow > -a- bittervet

            know why? the bittervet can't shoot jack docked up.

    • NoHope

      sorry, you said TEST won't attack any FURTHER into -A- territory? did you mean to say that TEST won't START to attack into -A- territory? because they certainly haven't taken anything from us.

      • A Just Wants SOV

        Nice propaganda. HBC/CFC took two regions from your allies, folks you were sworn to defend, as you just stood there and watched. You batphoned CVA and they said "fuck you".

        49- proves that if TEST/HBC wanted your space, there'd be fuck-all you could do.

        • LOL

          Would like to see HBC try to take space now. Really. They couldn't take Delve/PB/Querious from them without batphoning CFC, I'd like to see them get anywhere near taking it this time.

          • yeahderp

            I'm sorry, how do you plan to stop anyone from pushing your shit in while you're docked up? here's the really bad news, at this point if Test decides you're too pathetic to be worth the effort, someone else is going to come and take your stuff. -a- is dead man, get over it and move on you just haven't moved your ships to Stain yet.

            We had zero trouble taking 3 regions. We'll have very little trouble taking the rest if you're even worth it at this point. -a- is shit.

          • yea derp

            Didn't you guys call down the CFC when all your efforts in taking Delve SOV went to shit?
            Also, -A- died over a year ago, didn't you know? White Noise. said so.

    • TEST Grunt

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

  • oh well

    You could at least spend 30 seconds trying to fix the battle reports http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=11057 for the soco one

    and don't even get started about posting to your own kill-board like on the first report

    • logic

      That looks like a pretty even fight, though the sbu got popped giving the strategic victory to -a- in this fight.

      They won't be able to do anything with it though as the next time the station is vuln the only thing different will eb the lack of FA. so you will still be facing 1100+ HBC. Also elite pvpers have to be careful if you keep fighting the nubs of test you eventually train them to fight you.

      • pilot

        Fighting side numbers were overall even (with about 30 man advantage to -A-), ISK war favors -A- even more when taking into account 5V-, where some pursuing and station camping happened, and 5V- gate was where the fight was fought.

      • BAMbam

        Maybe, maybe not. According to the test KB's they have lost more isk in the last 7 days than they usually loose in a month. Add SRP, sov bills an endless supply of SBUs and the costs start rising. If they start slowing down the SRP there numbers will fall.

        It could theoretically be able to beat Test with a war of attrition. Though lets face it if Test get too badly beaten Daddys going to come down from the North

        • ohdohs

          yes, except for they now have 4 regions. there's no way -a- will be able to make sufficient progress before moon mining is going full swing

        • Akatori

          You know they have 3 regions worth of moons supplying them right? (Most of PB is owned by TRIBE)

          A war of attrition is as viable for -A- right now as them bending over, pulling their pants down, while having insert here written of their arse cheeks, all the while calling over their shoulder "don't use lube"

  • some goon

    This isn't what I ordered. I wanted my BR with a little less sensationalist language.

  • ROL Grunt

    As a ROL Grunt, i´ll try to be more objective.

    I didin´t take part of this weekend fights, father´s day here, need to travel and such. But my coprmates told me things went as usual. Meaning: Makalu formed fleets, we re-started the reinforce process all over again. Testies have difficult to handle the signature tengus doctrine as always. We did lost 30 oracles in a 60 man fleet due to bombings and a HUGE noob fc mistake but, in the more organized operations, we keep ponding testies as always.

    And we ALL know that, when the final reinforce comes, testies will call EEEEEEEVERYYYYYYYYYYONE, will press the "I WIN" button, and will keep the system in the end.

    So it´s pretty much a stalemate. We keep feeding our killboards, but won´t be able to get the system, unless our capitals come to fight, what, pretty much, wonpt happen…EVER !

    Good hunt.

    ROL Grunt

    • obs

      Keep at it! I have heard the "I WIN" button has got a limited number of charges before its mechanic gets tired and breaks.

      • in short

        Well -A- side held the field (winning isk war, but both sides took heavy losses), camped in HBC in 5V-, went to 49-u, reinforced the ihub (which was the main strategic point of the fight). HBC reformed and 49-u local rose to 400+ as -A- got re-setup on 49-u gate in 4-07. But HBC never jumped in, and that was that.

        Really not much to say, nothing to spin.

        • NoHope

          i'm sure we'll still get the "-A- is shit because we didn't flip the station yesterday so must have failed" routine

          • obs

            Hey, you did a good job. Do keep at it. I am sure their batphone will eventually fail. Nothing lasts forever. And after reading their report do I get the feeling that they are already getting tired of you. Soon will you be sending the kids to bed!

  • Rol brainless grunt

    Another view from ROL side
    During the fight we had quite a kot of problems when all three anchors died and FC forgot to name another one. So we were sitting ducks for more than 2 minutes. Once we got Maka back we start primary again enemy logi's and they start popping like popcorns. Few minutes and all scimitar and huggins were down and we start nuking enemy rokhs. PL and test decided to de- aggro an jump out. Finally we won the field and camp a bit the station were ee pop few noobs who play the undock game. In the mean time some-A- fag in a bombrr start looting the field a git popped. So we return to the battle zone were we looted and salvage more than we can carry. We stayed on 4-0 gate for 30 min more in the hope that 500 test+pl+friends will come to fight us but it seems that they dont like our tengu,s.
    Ihub was also destryed so i think we won the fight.

    • yes

      Correction: iHub was reinforced not destroyed, but yes other than that, this is pretty much how it went. Both sides lost many scimis.

  • https://www.facebook.com/riverini Enrique Jose Rivera Azofeifa

    Test’s Battle Report

    that's it… if I allow it… ^__^

    j/k montolio sent me the report, bagehi is working it atm.

  • CCP is best

    It was a good battle. I started off in a scimi on the -A- side and died in the opening minutes of the fight. Web, painted, and got loss mail before any red showed up on my screen. I went back into the fight in a different ship and enjoyed the pew! I feel that both sides are enjoying the 49- meat grinder.

    All these posters whining about these BRs not being "balanced" or whatever need to derp the hurp up. Of COURSE these reports are going to be one sided and half-bullshit. They're written by pilots in one faction or the other who are fighting in internet spaceships! Bullshit is part of the fun!

    • Lunatic

      How would a situation change if HBC pilot could also say 'I had been killed in the first moment of the fight, so I jumped back to 1DH and the next minute jumped back to have a fun fighting -a- ' :)

      • -.-

        Yeah, cause the fight took place in Test owned system, so HBC had no possible way for fast reshipping…

      • HBC

        I think you misunderstand TEST and HBC, we love blowing up and joining back into the fight. Did you miss our advertisement in the tournaments? We're bad at this game.

      • Bagehi

        I didn't die though. A few bombs scratched my shields and one tengu fired three volleys into me, but that was the closest to taking damage I got. Neither side really had a chance to lay into the other's dps ships. I think AAA was able to reinforce their fleet but Test's reinforcements were stuck waiting for a cyno to bridge back in. The battle literally came down to Test being terrible at cynoing, both at the beginning of the fight and near the end.

  • Battlereport

    The battle included the adjacent system 5V-, so here's a better look at what happened: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&adjacent&…

  • PL newguard

    Sort of. Here's what it looked like from my side:

    We held on the 49- gate for a little while as we considered what to do – our enemies were formed up on the other side of the gate at range, and there were at least 40 bombers set up on our in gate. We knew -A- would never risk jumping into us so we figured we'd go ahead and give it a try anyways since we had called everyone there already.

    The fight started pretty well, reps were holding on huginns despite the hostiles spreading ewar around our scimis – we reported reps as holding, bleeding huginns and scimis occasionally. Meanwhile enemy scimis were popping fast and soon enough we were able to break tengus fairly easily.

    -A- came in close and tried to out track us for a while. The remaining huginns managed to keep things webbed enough to break however and -A- pulled range after a few minutes.

    At this point -A- scimis burned to the gate and started jumping when yellowboxed while tengus kept range. On top of that, logi was starting to struggle – the more scimis you bleed, the more focused the ewar can be, the more damped/jammed each scimi is on average. That coupled with the constant bombs, and the alpha gang of ~30 hostile tornadoes slowly picking away at our remaining scimis was enough for our FC to decide the fun was over and we daggroed/jumped.

    This report makes it sound like the scimis sort of rolled over and died. This was not the case, initially reps held rather well on scimis and huginns, the scimis dying was a very slow process but once the numbers started to shrink, more got damped and jammed and things started to snowball out of control for reps. We started with about 35 and ended with about 15 left after 30 minutes of fighting, hardly a farm like this article suggests.

    In terms of who "won" well you can look at the BR doc and see for yourself. I think we did pretty well for jumping into a hostile fleet outnumbered with bombers, tornadoes, and links already set up in system.

    If the BR was reversed right now I guarantee you -A- would be screaming about their great victory.

  • M1k3y

    4 Stacks of guns in that video?

    What ever happened to having 2 stacks ffs… KM whoring getting tricky these days.

  • John Douche

    TL;DR: TEST fell asleep on watch, forms too late and does the moon-walk. -A- proves the concept of CTAs and hit'n'run guerilla warfare one more time.

  • Garreth Vlox

    I love how the HBC report matches up almost perfectly with the kill boards and associated time stamps while the SOCO report is an expert spin on a mediocre win trying to make it look like napolean-esque levels of genius. :D propaganda for reading the next you guys stay docked up maybe???

    • Easterner

      You can say a lot of things about a- being awful, which are true, but how are they getting all these kills while staying docked up?

    • DumbASSbgmouth

      HBC had a spy on SoCo comms calling out their primary targets…. Now thats what I call a fight!
      And don't forget your PL pets, with out them you guys are less than a streaming pile of dog feces.
      http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=41

      LMAO! that's some impressive fighting Garreth (small pox) Vlox. Maybe in september you will do a little more than kill POS mods…….. Genius isn't a word you should use so….. ahem……loosely.

      • Garreth Vlox

        that's the best you got bro? :D I'd tell you to come at me but it looks like you'd have to lose the helmet and mouth guard first, and about the genius joke I'm sorry was that word to big for you? Next time I'll try to use only one syllable words. And yeah I killed a pos mod, but the kicker? I had to UNDOCK to do it. Pro tip provided free of charge.

        • ChimpasGenius.

          Hey Garreth, that's some great pro tip lingo you have there. Nice undocking skills, the POS mods must go down pretty fast killing them with a RIFTER! Genius! Obviously you don't have a mouthguard because you can't afford one, but I'm sure your Momma upstairs bought you a helmet chum!P

  • Youaskedforit

    wow.. i see FOXNEWS24 is keeping up.. i just love how fucking retarded TEST is.. these guys are really believing the crap that is posted here. TEST call every fleet they form up a victory even if they lose 400 ships and kills 2 tengus.. It's just a matter of time.. TEST will be forced back to Fountain. So far in the fleets i have been in we have killed over 270 bil TEST shit in 13 days and it just keeps on going.. and if i add that to the last months i think we are up to at least a half of trillion isk.. it's really a fine victory TEST has.. yeah we lose a tengu here and there..and sometimes we lost 10 tengus in one fight.. but who cares.. its nothing to what TEST lose anyway.

    Wonder how the propaganda machine is going to spin it when we sit on the gates to Fountain.. it's going to be epic.. i think we gonna see some epic drama.

    • Bagehi

      You don't even read the articles before you respond, do you?

    • Yao

      Deklein by February?

    • niko

      calling every fleet a victory sounds to me like one hell of a fighting mentality. they will never quit fighting cause they always win… you on the other hand were planning not to defend catch afraid of losing a couple of ships….

    • theCatman

      broda, the difference is that -a- gives a fuck, TEST does not…. who has whos space duell brenna?

      • http://soundcloud.com/mrt123/avi-russian-speech02 -A- FC

        -A- gives no fucks, no fucks are given. Beyond going out killing shit every night there is nothing else -A- exists for. If its a challenge, so much the better we love a challange. At this point Test alone are not a challenge, it is just a question of how long do we want to farm them and their terrible subpets and how long till PL fucks up and loses that dread/super fleet.

        Its just a matter of time.. all the Tech isk in the EVE doesn't stop every Test failure grind them down. All the mass of retards and rejects you can squeeze into a fleet doesn't mean the fleet will be anything better then a blob of jeering retards waiting to fail.

        When that day comes the mother of all retards CFC will come and save their pet ass again

        -A- will still be there years from now killing anyone stupid enough to live near them.. and if test are still around they will still be dying horribly and -A- will be glad.

        In other EVEFOXnews24 Test dies in vast numbers to a smaller dead alliance that doesn't undock.. This must be some kinda bug?

      • The14th

        TEST has Nulli's space, not -A-'s. You gotta be the only TESTie who doesn't know how to troll.

  • Youaskedforit

    YES… you finally got it!! wow.. you must be the smart one of TEST..

    • ipopnulliships

      nobody cares about your kills, it may actually be important if each alliance had a static amount of incomming isk. but since that fluctuates along with many other reasons, it's not a good measure. you can describe the problem with killboard chestbeating by saying this out loud "If I kill 14 rifters and loose 1 tegu, am I awesome or a retard?" (record that and play it out loud if you have to).

      -A- roams do well, but when it comes to gaining and maintaining objectives -A- is failing miserably. Sadly, even if -A- does manage to gain control of 49- that's just a starting point, -A- lost 3 regions.

      Anyone can keep their killboard stats "green" if you pick and choose your fights, but it's another thing entirely to capture something and hang onto it.

      • Pretty Sure

        Pretty sure -A- didn't lose any region's…. Pretty sure -A- hasn't lost a system ether…. Pretty sure your intel is poor….

        • yeahderp

          just stop already lol, nobody wants to explain how you lost the fight for Delve Querious, and Period Basis again. if you're retarded enough to believe it wasn't an -a- loss I'm truly sorry for you and hope you stay out of the gene pool. if you're just spouting propaganda, more power to you, but you may want to try harder.

  • Allah Akbar

    At least the south is having some semblance of a gf, equalish numbers most of the time.
    The north consists of every time nc. Forces fight just 2to1 out numbered with the exemption of a few heroic times grately outnumbered they have slaughtering cfc. Mostly it's unfortunately ze blob lagging up local to 10% tidi an shooting structures or mass blobbing 250 nc. With 800+ rediculoius. Gypsy bombers killed around 150 or so cfc drakes today, some nice runs. Apart from that the flood of noobs is difficult to turn, kill loads, win efficiency, but the scrubs still manage to flood over.When's the free alliances of eve going to put aside differences, put up with the fact that they may need to have a couple of months of shit laggy fights to get rid of this abomination,to bring back quality of entertainment to EVE.

    • Easterner

      I think that outside of the cfc the fighting style of ncdot, which is to wait for a timer and have a big staged battle, is kind of dying. I don't see people being able to do conventional fleet battles against the cfc anymore, so it's probably a good idea to either adapt to that or start building a coalition to take them down.

      Speaking of which, why should the non-cfc alliances help you, anyway?

      • Allah Akbar

        Although nc. Did not originally help southern alliances, they very much are now. If it wasn't for nc. Forces holding the tide of scrubs back for the moment, the south would still be at 10% tidi while SoCo docked in stations. We fight, an we fight well, kill many, but there's too many. Mb snide comments are just, but it's just another opportunity to stretch cfc abomination forces, grip them in a vice an crush them for multiple directions!

  • -A- Grunt

    That fight sucked tbh. We should of gone into them but once again our "hero" FC's didnt want to go in to keep our kill boards apparently green. Oh well.

    • pilot

      Yeah sounds like a good idea jumping a 256 man fleet into 400+ local all waiting at optimals when there was no need to and ihub was already reinforced. Real smart thinking.

      Turns out the enemy likes to goad you into doing stupid things by trying to call you a coward.

    • Easterner

      It's really strange seeing goon allies talking about cowards and e-honoure.

  • Amy Tribal

    lets talk about how -A- cant even form a tengu fleet as of tonight and fail bombing runs miserably

    • pilot

      You mean the 224 they formed in the tengu fleet in their weakest TZ? Turns out they didn't feel like jumping into 500 enemies in their prime tz. But lol, nice try.

  • zzz

    is there a way to get isk values of loss sustained and inflicted from battle doc?

  • Issklar

    -A- don´t show up today AGAIN
    Station in safe AGAIN
    We bomb the shit out of them in 4-0 AGAIN

    -A- STILL sucks.

    So…. No news here

    • Jesus

      Yeah and whats worse than -A-? Test so shut the fuck up.

      • lawl

        u seem mad about not undocking maybe you should elect a new fc one that isnt makalu that allows you to undock

        • pilot

          Lol the more you guys bleat about the undocking thing the more fun everyone is having shooting you noobs

        • pilot

          HBC losing billions and billions in ships per week while -A- stays… docked. Loving this arrangement.

  • Random Guy

    Wow! Montolio's BR is so fake. There were no armageddons on -A- side on that fight.

  • Goonman

    So 49 was held by HBC. SoCO failed to achieve their strategic objective. HBC win. Ciao.

  • uh huh

    http://www.themittani.com/ <- Rachel Maddow is a man

  • eve.kill is poor

    At first sight I thought soco killed more at isk ratio, then I realized that soco posted a biased battlereport

  • -A- Grunt

    confirming. my alliance is shit. also malaku is a joke.

    • heh

      "Confirming I am totally not impersonating someone else, seriously you guys."

  • E-Bonics

    You're an idiot… If they fly mainly Tengu's, what's a good smartbombing fit then???

  • lussigesi

    good…. enough said.