Comments on: DEV POST – Winter Expansion: Destroyer Rebalancing

By: Renan Ruivo

Renan Ruivo — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:42:12 +0000

The devs won't be touching T3 any time soon because they are largely working as intended. They are only overpowered by comparasion, so this is why they will re-work T1 and T2 cruisers first. To bring them in line with the T3 cruisers (jack-of-all-trades, master of none etc.)

By: Renan Ruivo

Renan Ruivo — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:40:00 +0000

Dense commenter detected.

By: The Dude

The Dude — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:14:49 +0000

My dual-web Cormorant backbone!

By: ...

... — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:21:20 +0000

What's wrong with you? Frigs need a hard counter and destroyers fill that role. Destroyers in turn are countered by EVERY OTHER ship in the game (except for mining ships and industrials.)

By: ...

... — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:17:01 +0000

t3 cruisers will be some of the last ships to be worked on (as reported by devs) because of how complicated they are. Personally, I think they should just be hit hard by the nerf bat in the mean time so people start using other ships.

By: ...

... — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:14:11 +0000

Not to mention re-balancing low level ships is better to do anyway since more players will have access to them. Some people are very dense, +1 for you sir!

By: ...

... — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:10:37 +0000

What does it matter? T2 destroyers shouldn't be used for their damage output, in fact a t1 destroyer 'should' kill 'dictors when in a mythical 1v1. T1's are generalists. T2's are specialists. The fact that 'dictors get bubbles denotes they should lose damage potential.

That's not to say T2's shouldn't do damage, just that they should do less than the T1 variant.

By: ...

... — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:56:11 +0000

I'm sure much of the crying was due to overview bugs, that was so freaking annoying.

me out on a roam: oh there's a target, kill it!
fc: target is blue, target is blue!
me: can't… stop… missiles
target: boom!

they fixed those issues (at least it was fixed the last time I played) but there's still stuff that needs to be worked on. Fixing useless ships to make them worth while is a great use of time, I approve.

By: ...

... — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:52:19 +0000

You'll have to wait for a while. there's a lot of stuff that's still broken.

By: Val_V

Val_V — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:45:55 +0000

I don't mind fixes and rebalancing is always fun, but ccp has been fixing shit that's not broken lately and then fixing the fixes.

I still remember the excitement that Apocrypha brought and would love to see another epic expansion like that.

By: Mr. Meh

Mr. Meh — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:18:16 +0000

Meh.

We just don't see it the same. But, you may want to go argue your point on the forums though. It seems there's at least a dozen others voicing the same issue with Catalyst. The thing will need more PG with the others getting their boost, especially the Corm. With the Coercer getting 2 mids, the Coercer will be able to out DPS and alpha the Catalyst. Whatever aspect you think the Catalyst has now, will be countered with these changes.

I, for one want to see the Catalyst evolve outside of Hulk ganking. But if you like the changes, so be it. I will keep flying Thrashers. You keep flying Catalyst.

By: uh huh

uh huh — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:34:43 +0000

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By: indy

indy — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 10:19:52 +0000

its just one guy, on drugs no doubt keep fixing stuff boys u r doing well(ish)

By: wootsnoot

wootsnoot — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:54:06 +0000

they reduced light missile explosion radius which actually is a buff to light missiles and your beloved caracal

By: my sugestion instead

my sugestion instead — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 07:10:06 +0000

I agree but i think they should consider something that can extend the current Tec2 lines in to Destroyer

what i want for Destroyers
1# the normal one as described above
2# a missil / Drone boat as described earlier in devblogs
3# specialized ships for covop heavy bomber (greater bomber firepower)
4# specialized ship for logistic, a logistic Destroyer could work since you got enough highslots for a guardian/basilisk like repping and the small/medium size reppers and cap transfers get some use. this would work as a T1 version and a more specialized T2 version where it can fit a Covop cloak would also be nice.
5# t2 Destroyer that get extra bonus for tracking making sure thoes nasty interceptors dies fast
6# and offcourse i would want the Interdictor as it is.

this way we extend the covop line from
Stealthbomber –> Recon ship –> Covop Battleship
to
Stealthbomber –> heavy bomber –> Recon ship –> CovOp Battleship

and we extend the line of logistics from
T1 Cruiser Logi –> T2 Cruiser Logi —> Carrier
to
T1 DD logi –> T1 Cruiser Logi –> T2 Crusier logi –> Carrier
|
—– > T2 DD Logi

TLDR version add the following to DD lines

T1 DD gunboat (Current)
T1 DD missil/dronboat
T1 Light logistics ship

T2 Covop DD
T2 Light CovOp logistics ship
T2 Interdictor (Current)

//Me