Comments on: TAGN: CCP Raises 20 Million in New Funding, Talks IPO Again

By: Uhh idiots again

Uhh idiots again — Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:55:25 +0000

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By: sub

sub — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 19:44:36 +0000

ccp probaly needs the 20million to start plowing on with world of darkness or maybe to boost the marketing for dust? What i wonder is, why do they need this small investment when surely they should have a healthy bank balance by now.

By: fuckccp

fuckccp — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:36:20 +0000

They are getting ready to sell to Sony.
Any Bets??

FUCK YOU CCP !!!

By: rvb guy

rvb guy — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:22:35 +0000

You could sell it or ask if ccp will reprocess it for you? There .. no ship in the game plus u get something back?

By: CONFIRMED

CONFIRMED — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 01:16:35 +0000

By: John Douche

John Douche — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:26:21 +0000

You say you own a cap, but you do not want them? You are an idiot.

You can imagine buying shares and influencing CCP to remove caps, but you cannot imagine CCP changing them to your needs? You are an idiot.

There are several players with 100m SP and more, who cannot fly caps, because they never wanted to and they are all happy. You cannot do the same and caps make you sad? You are an idiot.

What did you whine about before it had caps? Battleships?!? You are an idiot.

Go and self-destruct your cap, then biomass your character and kill yourself in a fire.

By: Stupid Supers

Stupid Supers — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:32:20 +0000

Totally agree here. Supers just aren't needed. Titans I can understand but still think there should only be one allowed in system at once.

By: TEST Faggot

TEST Faggot — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:12:43 +0000

I bet you`re some TEST dude or GAMER GURL and better hope I don`t find out who you are and scag the shit out of you. Faggot.

By: Java

Java — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 04:49:13 +0000

Wow, you live in Silicon Valley, what – you work at a drive thru there or what? Jesus, find a staff member who has an ounce of business accumen to write an article, don't let the first guy to link it to you write it… sheesh…

CCP is a business, yes you want happy players, but without happy investors, there is nothing for the players ot log into. I mean get someone to atleast take your story down a couple business scenarios, instead you just link a story and leave…really?

By: Lithalnas

Lithalnas — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:37:19 +0000

Actually they do not end up holding the bag. The ones who statistically hold the bag are institutional investors such as pension funds. Case in point CALPERS which is the California public sector pension fund at $170 Billion. They hold such large positions in companies that they cant draw down even if they wanted to because the just own so much they cant sell it off fast enough. And to back that up, pension funds, mutual funds and other investing entities statistically do worse than the index funds (SPX or Standard and Poors 500)

"For the period of December 31, 1992 to December 31, 2007, only 41.6% of actively-managed U.S. large company funds that beat the S&P 500 in a particular year were able to beat the S&P 500 in the next year. After three years, only 9.7% of the original group was still beating the index. " http://mutualfunds.about.com/od/activevspassivefu…

the only way pension funds protect themselves is by buying treasury bonds. (yay 1.5% interest rates)

By: Lithalnas

Lithalnas — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:28:37 +0000

Actually there are two kinds of shares now, common and secured. Common is well common stock. Preferred is stock which is more protected than common and is issued to investors in the Series A B C. For more on these deals there is a book called "venture deals"

As to 'underlying driver' the investors exiting are going to be guys from London and New England. Not to mention the IPO shares are internationally traded.

By: Chag

Chag — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 02:38:54 +0000

Don't focus on the IPO being about EVE online only. Look at EVE online as the collateral to secure the money, and that money going towards developing other endeavors.

EVE has been around a long time and hasn't reached the mainstream success as the other giants (I'm not saying EVE is unsuccessful), it would probably allow them to grow to a next gen company and develop other opportunities that they have up their sleeve.

By: wheredowe gofrm here

wheredowe gofrm here — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:30:15 +0000

I think CCP are/were in a worse financial situation than they had let anyone know, & I think they were & probably still are hoping that DUST514 lifts them out of the hole they have started digging for themselves.

CCP being publicly listed will have it's good & bad sides, & unfortunately it will mean the moment EVE starts loosing $$$$ it will be either down sized, closed or sold off because share holders are often not interested in whether a player base has a lot of very motivated people in it. No they are only interested in the bottom line & with the current state of financial markets around the world share holders are even less likely to want to take that extra risk.

I think that we will see the development of EVE & DUST514 sold in the future to another developer. Even as much as I would hate to see it. What that will end up meaning for the player base I am unsure as it could end up being a good thing if the developer is willing to listen & isn't as top heavy as CCP seems to have become in the administration & development of their products.

We shall see one way or another, sooner or later so I guess it's time to grab some popcorn to prepare for the show! :'(

By: Flying spaceships

Flying spaceships — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 23:12:55 +0000

Shareholders care about cash. Let's look at Facebook as an example. $35 opening share price. Now worth under $20. So how will Facebook raise the share price, by introducing "pay to win" items. Profit = higher share price and happy investors. CCP + IPO X shareholders (happy / unhappy) = pay to win items. And you will have people who will pay real money for exclusive items etc. money makes the world go around!

By: Bittervet

Bittervet — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 23:12:02 +0000

Provided you disclose in your prospectus/information memorandum/whatever, what we call "the law" allow anything. Anything.

Its as bad as freeform contracts in Jita – you can *literally* say 'Once you give me this money, Im going to steal it' in the fine print.

Google 'Boxer vs Husky self dealing prospectus' if you dont believe me.

"If the asserted self-dealing was actually authorized or contemplated, it would not, ipso facto, be impermissible." Yeah baby !