Comments on: Nosy Gamer: CCP’s War On Bots – Exhumer Changes

By: @TenrisAnis

@TenrisAnis — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 08:03:03 +0000

He did not say it would be a huge WIN.

By: Rock Hard

Rock Hard — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 05:24:17 +0000

What boost are they giving Hulks again??? Oh yeah, Literally nothing changed…

By: David_Star

David_Star — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 20:02:54 +0000

Hmm,

Ganker crybabies been through.

By: FormerMiner

FormerMiner — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:45:18 +0000

lower ore output on a miner, could be considered worse.
I dunno though you seem to be well into the EHP, but the miner has an actual function too.

By: Corteztk

Corteztk — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:24:37 +0000

While I imagine more balance might be necessary I think CCP has made a call on what they think is fair. If they find everyone in highsec only uses Skiff's then I would agree with you. But my guess is your going to start seeing all three exhumers which is a good thing.

By: Kratisto

Kratisto — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:32:33 +0000

Tankier mining ships are fine. Whats bothersome is the ship works at 80% of a hulk's efficiency… that needs to be lowered to 70 or 60 if you want to be (as I say) functionally immune to ganks in highsec.

No one has a problem with mining battleships.

By: Corteztk

Corteztk — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 12:43:57 +0000

Like I said before I'm fine with this. I mean you have to think about this as if it were real life. Do you honestly believe that ship building companies wouldn't start selling customers tougher ships if the ones they made were easily gankable? This is exactly the type of changes that would apply in the real world. All the HP buffs come with a tradeoff and in a pinch a skiff is gankable…or you can always use wardecs.

I would have to say that I see a bigger argument for not allowing people to hide in rookie corps than I do for making ganking easier. Maybe rookie corps need higher taxes and CCP needs to figure out a way to tax mining. That way you can brick tank a skiff but you still have to learn to hide or defend against war decs.

By: John Doe

John Doe — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 12:18:16 +0000

Congratulations! You are jealous of his 10 accounts. You win a posting bot.

By: John Doe

John Doe — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 12:06:27 +0000

That is easier said than done. TEST just raised its taxes and is about to implode, others get their assets stolen or even get their space devalued by CCP.

The only advantage of a reimbursement program these days seems to be that when shit hits the fan will you not be alone with it. You will be sitting together with your friends in the same shitty alliance.

By: testie

testie — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 11:39:20 +0000

U sir, need to change your alliance and get introduced to what we call reimbursement program.

By: Raath

Raath — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 09:38:56 +0000

The thing about mining in Eve is that it's not meant to be a solo activity done on one account.
if you're one guy with one account mining then of course you're going to be bored. if you want to play solo then go PVE or PVP camp some gate. Trade, haul, manufacture, research those are all solo activities you can do on one account. Solo mining will not be profitable and boring as hell. Agree with that.

Mining is a multi alt profession. Whether it was designed that way is another matter, but it is today. You will find very few serious miners in eve with just 1 account. Unless that miner is supported by a corp fleet in which case you enjoy the crack with your corpies while waiting for stuff to happen.
I started off with one account mining. Bored as hell if I did it on my own but pretty good fun when a corp op was called. So I started an alt to haul which I trained for an orca. Then i got another miner then another then another. when you have 4 or more miners running + an orca alt then mining is no longer boring. Agree that ice mining a solo account you hit 1 button every 8 minutes. Yawn fest. But with 5 accounts you're hitting buttons every other second, shifting junk from hold to orca, shifting that junk from corp hangar to ore bay, warp to POS back again……
when you multi box mining is no longer boring but a pretty intensive activity. Oh and the heart stopping moment waiting for the fleet to warp out when the red pops into your null sec system…

Solo mining = boring as hell. Go do something else or get with a fleet.
Multibox mining = a click, alt tab fest to drive you insane

By: indy

indy — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 09:10:22 +0000

i meant 'lvl2 missions are anything but' my point is that if you want more ppl in game u got to make it more fun, pvp is as fun as eve gets but its expensive… let noobs make more isk doing boring jobs like mining that no good player will do if he can help it.

and no, i rat in 0.0 in a well fitted navy geddon, doing annomalies, the gank risk aside…. its really taking many dull hours that make me want to scream before i can buy me a new pvp hull let alone insure it and fit it out…

plexes used to be good… now they are hardly worth doing if u ask me… incursions-yes ok, if you have a fleet, if not, well, might as well do the 40 jumps back to your 0.0 ratting system coz finding a decent fleet and make good isk is almost imposible unless u pick a time when there aren't many people online…

unless u buy plexes or have loads of friends or are super smart it imposible to enjoy this game really… perhaps thats what ccp is trying to achieve anyway…

well i have a carrier now and know how to rat in it and not get caught by alliance buddies (as its frown upon) and now i'm quite happy, i make enough isk per hour on annomalies with the carrier to enjoy the game, But for years when i had no skills and no carrier it was pure agony, i still can't plex up all 3 accounts from the isk i make without compromising on PVP funding that makes the game fun for me

By: Former NC

Former NC — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 07:24:19 +0000

Wow the stupidity in you amazes me.
Also, i can see you are a grammar nazi.
Also I agree with that a minigame would be stupid.
Mining as it is, is cool for some people who have other stuff to do, but want to engage in eve anyway.
I for one, have to look after my kid and see if she doesnt destroys the house
Meanwhile i will have my miner and orca running so i can click every now ad then.
This is ideal if i cant really focus on eve, but can make some isk anyway.
I think there are a lot of people who do this also.
Anyway if you want mining to be less dull, go farm missions in a hulk.
There should be some asteroids in there also and well i guearantee it will keep you busy.

By: Former NC

Former NC — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 07:14:25 +0000

Grinding rats for ages when you have 10-20 mil sp?
Maybe this is a good idea, dont fly a drake to grind, save some isk for a mission boat.
A real mission boat i mean, something that can dish out around 800-1000 dps.
Maybe you will see then that grinding rats, doesnt have to tyake that long.
And yes i know, you will have to grind long to pay for that.
Well here is your solution, get another char, who can tank all rat aggro, with lets say a dominix, then get a talos char, wich can dps the crap out of the rats.
Oh well, you guys will probably just keepo ratting in drakes, cause some people just never learn.

By: derp2

derp2 — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 05:01:33 +0000

By what delusional metric does this make the mining barges worse? Huge 100+ percent increases in EHP, huge 100+ percent increases in ore holding capacity, and less skill prereqs for the t1 barges. Literally nothing changed for the negative.