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	<title>Comments on: On Eve Online&#8217;s 2012 Summer Stagnation</title>
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		<title>By: bored</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/07/23/2012s-summer-stagnation/comment-page-2/#comment-159431</link>
		<dc:creator>bored</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, wellcome to null sec of pets. Everyone is a pet in EvE today. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, wellcome to null sec of pets. Everyone is a pet in EvE today.</p>
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		<title>By: Whaaaaaat?</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/07/23/2012s-summer-stagnation/comment-page-2/#comment-136974</link>
		<dc:creator>Whaaaaaat?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 01:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ &lt;a href=&quot;http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/20120101.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/2012010...&lt;/a&gt; - Beginning of 2012  &lt;a href=&quot;http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/20120801.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/2012080...&lt;/a&gt; - Today 
So when almost every nullsec region has had major sov changes you call that stagnation.... I don&#039;t get it... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/20120101.png" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/2012010" rel="nofollow">dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/2012010</a>&#8230; &#8211; Beginning of 2012  <a href="http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/20120801.png" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/2012080" rel="nofollow">dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/2012080</a>&#8230; &#8211; Today<br />
So when almost every nullsec region has had major sov changes you call that stagnation&#8230;. I don&#039;t get it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marshmallow Man</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/07/23/2012s-summer-stagnation/comment-page-2/#comment-136536</link>
		<dc:creator>Marshmallow Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nullsec just isn&#039;t what it used to be. Nullsec used to be unexplored and wild space where small groups would duke out with one another. 
 
But nowadays its just a fight between massive coalitions with quick and easy power projection. Fairly small fast gangs are the way to go nowadays when shooting the residents. You can never fight for too long, otherwise you&#039;ll have a very large group coming after you.  
 
To live in nullsec requires you to be a pet of a corp, that is a pet of an alliance, that is a pet of a bigger alliance, which is a pet of a coalition. In all you&#039;re paying subscription to be someone&#039;s servant.  
 
I hate being someone&#039;s pet, a true spacefarer flies free.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nullsec just isn&#039;t what it used to be. Nullsec used to be unexplored and wild space where small groups would duke out with one another. </p>
<p>But nowadays its just a fight between massive coalitions with quick and easy power projection. Fairly small fast gangs are the way to go nowadays when shooting the residents. You can never fight for too long, otherwise you&#039;ll have a very large group coming after you.  </p>
<p>To live in nullsec requires you to be a pet of a corp, that is a pet of an alliance, that is a pet of a bigger alliance, which is a pet of a coalition. In all you&#039;re paying subscription to be someone&#039;s servant.  </p>
<p>I hate being someone&#039;s pet, a true spacefarer flies free.</p>
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		<title>By: what</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/07/23/2012s-summer-stagnation/comment-page-2/#comment-136248</link>
		<dc:creator>what</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Drop all organizations and large fleets. Bring back 4-6 player parties. Muuaahhaahahhahaahaaa! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drop all organizations and large fleets. Bring back 4-6 player parties. Muuaahhaahahhahaahaaa!</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/07/23/2012s-summer-stagnation/comment-page-2/#comment-135756</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you think limited member numbers would change a single thing, then think again.  
 
Playercoalitions are part of the player choice and therefore part of the sandbox.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think limited member numbers would change a single thing, then think again.  </p>
<p>Playercoalitions are part of the player choice and therefore part of the sandbox.</p>
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		<title>By: Wusti</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/07/23/2012s-summer-stagnation/comment-page-2/#comment-135753</link>
		<dc:creator>Wusti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re stilla stupoid cunt Bagehi - adn blue or not Im going to shoot you when I see you in space ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;re stilla stupoid cunt Bagehi &#8211; adn blue or not Im going to shoot you when I see you in space</p>
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		<title>By: McLoven</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/07/23/2012s-summer-stagnation/comment-page-2/#comment-135727</link>
		<dc:creator>McLoven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 05:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[awesome call ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awesome call</p>
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		<title>By: I was there</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/07/23/2012s-summer-stagnation/comment-page-2/#comment-135572</link>
		<dc:creator>I was there</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 14:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alright so im just a noob here thats only been playing for 4 months, but I&#039;ve read a lot about the wars of the past and such. Tech moons do produce a lot of money for the owners, so breaking up OTEC would be a good thing, but what really needs to be done is a revamp of the supercapitals. Titans are almost never used for combat anymore unless they are shooting a structure. This goes the same for Supercarriers. Dreads and carriers are becoming less common in battles as they are only really useful in shooting other dreads or carriers. (carriers have more use then the dreads these days). If you revamp these ships to allow them to be the behemoths of comat that they should be you will see more of them used in battle. Now the more they are used in battle the more that will be destroyed. Right now nullsec alliances such as -A- and Goons have enormous supercap fleets that they just use for grinding sov. They only fight each other if an allaince has to make a last stand, and then there is the possibility of a rare fight where one Supercap fleet cynos into another...but that hasnt really happend so recently. If all supercaps were able to fight along side their subcap companions and be useful, then more would be destroyed. And with alliance waving their giant supercap sword around they will fight and start shooting at more sov structures and tec moons which might just end this tech moon crisis that people are complaining  about that causes stagnation.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright so im just a noob here thats only been playing for 4 months, but I&#039;ve read a lot about the wars of the past and such. Tech moons do produce a lot of money for the owners, so breaking up OTEC would be a good thing, but what really needs to be done is a revamp of the supercapitals. Titans are almost never used for combat anymore unless they are shooting a structure. This goes the same for Supercarriers. Dreads and carriers are becoming less common in battles as they are only really useful in shooting other dreads or carriers. (carriers have more use then the dreads these days). If you revamp these ships to allow them to be the behemoths of comat that they should be you will see more of them used in battle. Now the more they are used in battle the more that will be destroyed. Right now nullsec alliances such as -A- and Goons have enormous supercap fleets that they just use for grinding sov. They only fight each other if an allaince has to make a last stand, and then there is the possibility of a rare fight where one Supercap fleet cynos into another&#8230;but that hasnt really happend so recently. If all supercaps were able to fight along side their subcap companions and be useful, then more would be destroyed. And with alliance waving their giant supercap sword around they will fight and start shooting at more sov structures and tec moons which might just end this tech moon crisis that people are complaining  about that causes stagnation.</p>
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		<title>By: who</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/07/23/2012s-summer-stagnation/comment-page-2/#comment-135553</link>
		<dc:creator>who</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The massive alliances, corps and coalitions are what&#039;s stagnating EVE, You have the super group that own one half the map, then the SoCo own an bit and as do a couple of others. You cant get into Nulsec now unless you talk to one of the coalitions and become renter or a pet. I say limit Corps to 100members, Alliance sizes to 10corps (or 1000players),  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The massive alliances, corps and coalitions are what&#039;s stagnating EVE, You have the super group that own one half the map, then the SoCo own an bit and as do a couple of others. You cant get into Nulsec now unless you talk to one of the coalitions and become renter or a pet. I say limit Corps to 100members, Alliance sizes to 10corps (or 1000players),</p>
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		<title>By: derp</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/07/23/2012s-summer-stagnation/comment-page-2/#comment-135430</link>
		<dc:creator>derp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 23:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, you simple have to grind a lot more to go roaming, which is much more fun than being a grunt in a big fleet. And to that goon guy: I doubt anyone reimburses those losses. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, you simple have to grind a lot more to go roaming, which is much more fun than being a grunt in a big fleet. And to that goon guy: I doubt anyone reimburses those losses.</p>
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		<title>By: dreamersofreality</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/07/23/2012s-summer-stagnation/comment-page-1/#comment-135380</link>
		<dc:creator>dreamersofreality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed, we will never see fights like Ueamon and O2O-2X ever again, even though those fights are forever engraved in our minds as some of the biggest and most epic fights EvE has ever seen.  CCPGoons has made sure of that those fights, on that scale, with that many ships of every kind, will never happen again. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, we will never see fights like Ueamon and O2O-2X ever again, even though those fights are forever engraved in our minds as some of the biggest and most epic fights EvE has ever seen.  CCPGoons has made sure of that those fights, on that scale, with that many ships of every kind, will never happen again.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/07/23/2012s-summer-stagnation/comment-page-2/#comment-135379</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I pretty much disagree with everything you said, and when did this anomalies un-nerf happen? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pretty much disagree with everything you said, and when did this anomalies un-nerf happen?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/07/23/2012s-summer-stagnation/comment-page-1/#comment-135373</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be fair, when it comes to people that post on EN24, 82.67% of all statistics are made up on the spot, including the statistic that I just made up right now. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, when it comes to people that post on EN24, 82.67% of all statistics are made up on the spot, including the statistic that I just made up right now.</p>
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		<title>By: rzr-bro</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/07/23/2012s-summer-stagnation/comment-page-1/#comment-135360</link>
		<dc:creator>rzr-bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You sir shouldnt be posting on eve news 24.  Your points are backed up with logic, statistics and from a neutral POV not your own butthurt and selfish perspective like 99% of the shitbirds on this site. 
 
I agree, every year people bitch and cry about which alliance is &#039;winning&#039; the game and is richest, funny thing is goonswarm/cfc dont even hold that many systems. Solar+pets/aaa+ROL+pets hold so much more sov than the cfc its just a shame they lack the organisation and the leadership to get the people the cfc have to match it. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sir shouldnt be posting on eve news 24.  Your points are backed up with logic, statistics and from a neutral POV not your own butthurt and selfish perspective like 99% of the shitbirds on this site. </p>
<p>I agree, every year people bitch and cry about which alliance is &#039;winning&#039; the game and is richest, funny thing is goonswarm/cfc dont even hold that many systems. Solar+pets/aaa+ROL+pets hold so much more sov than the cfc its just a shame they lack the organisation and the leadership to get the people the cfc have to match it.</p>
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		<title>By: Crunchmeister</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2012/07/23/2012s-summer-stagnation/comment-page-2/#comment-135358</link>
		<dc:creator>Crunchmeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, this is quite true. Very accurate. However, the key in that piece is &quot;CFC Alliance&quot;. Outside of the CFC, NCdot and their pets, no one else holds tech, and no one else is able to pull off replacements like that.  
 
So yes, if your alliance has access to high value moons, and huge swaths of sov space, then yes, your model is accurate. For everyone else, not so much. But the more resilient amongst us still manage quite well.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, this is quite true. Very accurate. However, the key in that piece is &quot;CFC Alliance&quot;. Outside of the CFC, NCdot and their pets, no one else holds tech, and no one else is able to pull off replacements like that.  </p>
<p>So yes, if your alliance has access to high value moons, and huge swaths of sov space, then yes, your model is accurate. For everyone else, not so much. But the more resilient amongst us still manage quite well.</p>
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