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Elise Randolph: Regional Update – SoCo Failure & The Fall of Delve

Regional Update: SoCo Failure & The Fall of Delve


Well that escalated quickly~


After this weekend all of Delve and a third of Querious will have fallen, a situation very far removed from two months ago.  That begs the question, how did this happen?   The factors leading up to this conflict are far reaching, so let us quickly turn back the clock and look at the situations a bit deeper.  Before Delve was a theatre of war, -A-, SOLAR, and Nulli (Southern Coalition) were embroiled with Legion of xDeath and RA in Immensea and the Drone Regions.  After prolonged fighting, the war eventually ended when RA abonded their allies and capitulated to the Southern Coalition, sealing a victory for SoCo.  The deal struck between the two parties ensured that RA would receive blue standings with SoCo, they would be allowed to evacuate all assets, and additionally RA would be given Delve and Querious to live in and rebuild.  Nulli Secunda,- an ally of -A- and member of SoCo who had fought RA quite substantially for six months, were not too keen on this deal since it would plant RA in the space Nulli hoped to grow into.  It would seem -A- promised the same region to two allies, and given the history between RA and Nulli there was no diplomatic solution in sight; both sides felt they earned Delve, and both sides felt entitled to it.  -A- could not stop the fight, but they were able to dictate the terms of the fight.  Since each alliance had another “home region”, -A- insisted that fighting between the two allies would have to stay in Delve; the loser would always have clemency in their home region.  As such RA were assured that their Querious assets would never be molested, and Nulli were promised their assets in Period Basis would remain untouched.  And thus the fight for Delve between RA and Nulli – two SoCo members – commenced.

While the Nulli fleet comms and numbers were far superior, the combination of Nulli inexperience in waging war and RA tenacity allowed RA to hold their own.  To win fights, RA would brazenly deploy tracking Titans and Carriers to bail them out of sticky situations – an area that Nulli refused to counter with their own Capital fleet.  The bold use of Titans caught the eye of Pandemic Legion who were intent to capitalize on RA sloppiness.  As such, The Legion announced a super-cap free move to Delve.  Within 36 hours of their arrival, PL had killed ~10 Nulli Dreads, two RA Titans, and two RA Nyxes.  Exasperated, frustrated, and burned out, RA decided to throw in the towel and moved to Querious.  Nulli celebrated, congratulated themselves, and began to lay siege to Delve.  Pandemic Legion, however, had no intentions on letting Delve change hands without a blood payment.  Nulli, with their allies HUNs, VCruz, et al, still had a significant numerical advantage through most time zones.  Still, PL were able to take the lion’s share of the fights and Delve territory never changed hands.  Test Alliance, seeing the fighting in Delve, decided to rekindle their bromace with PL and deployed a small contingent to Delve to fly along with PL and soak up the good fights.  Combined with Test, PL were able to take on more fights and quickly bridged the numbers gap that Nulli had.  While PL and Test had no inclinations for space in Delve, Nulli were annoyed by their presence and sought to overcome it.

After failing in their attempts to simply wait Test and PL out, Nulli began to look at their options.   Pleading for -A- for support, -A- brokered a deal between Nulli and RA and suggested that the two embattled allies work together to push PL & Test out of the way.  Nulli leadership, feeling they had no other options, gave up on their territorial aspirations for Delve and agreed to split Delve evenly with RA and run joint fleets until PL & Test left.  And thus the unlikeliest of allies began to work together and sent the message to TEST & PL that “good fights are over”.  The plan backfired as PL & Test stepped up their involvement and began to threaten sov in Delve.

Around the same -A- deployed to Black Rise low-sec in an effort to both pull PL away from Delve and roam around CFC space.   -A- forces began by reinforcing a pair of PL Tech moons in low-sec to coax a response from PL.  -A- managed to successfully capture a PL Tech tower for 17 hours, but that would be the extent of their success.  With help from both CFC and NCdot (though generally not at the same time), PL were able to thwart the -A- advances and hold their towers.  Coming up against a brick wall in Black Rise, -A- leadership tried a diplomatic play and threatened NCdot to not intervene, while also promising CFC alliances PL Tech in Venal for their help.  The CFC alliances scoffed at the -A- offer and NCdot massacred two -A- Dread fleets in as many days.   With the Black Rise deployment falling flat on its face, -A- deployed back to Catch with noses sufficiently bloodied.

While backdoor efforts may have failed, the combination of -A-, Nulli, and RA proved to be quite the power in Delve.  The 600-man fleets massively overshadowed the 250 man PL & Test fleet and the latter were forced into a harassment role – a role PL is very comfortable in.  -A-, Nulli, and RA were able to save their space from all of the PL & Test advances, but the smallest of the three fleets (generally RA) found itself on the receiving end of a PL & Test drop.  -A- and Nulli were content to save their space and lose an RA fleet in the process, so the cycle continued.  Riding high on swagger, -A- set to stop the PL & Test advances once and for all and called in more SoCo support to save two final station timers.  Calling allies from far and wide proved to be quite the detriment, however, as PL & Test called in their own support for what seemed to be the makings of a proper brawl.  600 SoCo were met  by 700 CFC, PL, Test, and Ev0ke.  Angered that they were one-upped, -A- called for all available SoCo entities to move to C3N – Nulli’s home system in Delve.  Every SoCo alliance, bar SOLAR, Gypsy, and their associated allies, moved to C3N.  -A- decided to one-up on PL and brashly called in support from former PL bros, and former -A- enemies, Raiden and Iniative.  The combination of SoCo, Raiden, and Initiative meant that this new bloc would be able to field near 1000 with a bona fide SC presence.  CFC, noticing this escalation and the mounting forces on their border, treated the buildup as a threat and announced a full deployment for all of CFC to Delve.

The preamble to the Delve Jam may be a bit lengthy, but a complete picture is necessary to understand how two major power blocs could be brought to war in Summer – a period of historic apathy.  -A- had the last laugh with Raiden and Init falling to their side, but The Legion is not one to turn their backs when the gauntlet is thrown.  While CFC were making plans on where to base their assault from, SoCo repositioned to Delve to mount their defense of the region.  With the lull in combat, PL struck when the iron was most hot and played a card that SoCo did not expect.  Utilizing a high-level RA operative, The Legion pulled a bloodless headshot and turned off sov in 9CG – RA’s home system – and flipped the station to PL control.  Along with flipping the station, the PL operative stole the RA ship replacement fund and a bulk of the corporations assets, amounting to ~200 billion.  SoCo were sent reeling and haphazardly formed to secure 9CG.  The window stayed open for a mere 2 hours, however, before Test & PL were able to re-capture 9CG and hold it down.  RA now had no home, no ship replacement fund, and the bulk of their members had all their assets locked down in a system they could not access.  A week earlier the CFC, repaying an old debt to RA, offered clemency should they agree to take no part in the Delve conflict.  RA leadership, far removed from the RA that worked with Goons so long ago, scoffed at the offer.  After the 9CG headshot, RA leadership approached CFC hat in hand and offered to switch allegiance.  Tragically for RA, the offer was no longer on the table.  Crippled, RA moved what was left to 319 and began to rebuild amidst a war.  -A-, now in need of allies more than ever, propped RA up and infused money into the falling giant.  The surprising move by PL caught SoCo off guard and emergency contingency plans were made.  All SoCo entities, including Raiden, were called to move to 319 – NPC Delve.

Having successfully stolen momentum away from SoCo, CFC & HBC (heretofore known as the DelveJam Coalition) wasted no time and began to siege Delve while harassing SoCo in  319.  SoCo were forced to get the massive number of alliances whose support they had gained to work together.  The DelveJam coalition had already made these arrangements.  Before SoCo could settle in 319, all of Delve was in reinforced by the Delvejam Coalition.  SoCo could not get a fleet off of the ground before the final IHUB reinforcement of C3N, though they did try.  Drakes were traded for Lokis, Tengus and Battleships in an effort to strain the already overworked SoCo logistics.    By the time of the C3N Ihub final timer, EU prime on July 4th, the SoCo war machine was ready to roll – Bombers, Alpha fleet, and two 100mn Tengu fleets.  They were met by Drakes, Rokhs, Tengus, and  a handful of tracking Dreads from the DelveJam Coalition.  The largest fight to ever take place in the storied region was not a disappointment.  DelveJam Drakes fell by the wayside, but they were quickly replaced and brought back into the fight.  SoCo Tengus were effectively kiting around the battlefield, however the SoCo Battleships took the brunt of the beating and, after two hours of 10%-20% TiDi, were forced to leave the field.  C3N’s IHUB was down.  SoCo, however, were happy to classify the fighting as a victory.  After the previous weeks’ events, not welping a T3 fleet was, in fact, a big step forward.

Building upon their perceived victory, SoCo were cocksure that C3N would be saved.  While most of the Alliance assets were evacuated from C3N, SoCo leadership assured their members than C3N would be a saved.  Forming again the next day, however, SoCo were met with an unfortunate reality:  the previous days’ fighting took a toll on SoCo logistics and they could not replace the lost ships – some 150 Battleship hulls and support.  SoCo numbers were less than halved while DelveJam numbers stayed steady.  So on the day following their “victory”, SoCo were forced to watch as C3N was captured without a fight.  During the day several attempts were made by SoCo to form for the onlining TCUs, but no SoCo fleet made it further than one jump away from the 319 undock.  Meanwhile the rest of Delve was captured or put into final reinforce, and part of Querious and Period Basis, were put into reinforced.   As of now various SoCo alliances are having alliance meetings and rattling the cages.  With SoCo now on the same page and operating at full force, their defensive efforts in other regions will surely be more effective.

- Elise Randolph

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191 Comments

  1. nulab

    so let me get this right

    CFC wins by blobbing and Meta gaming again?

    July 8, 2012 at 1:30 am Reply
    1. lolz

      That pretty much sums up how the game is meant to be played….

      July 8, 2012 at 2:21 am Reply
  2. can the writer

    I do't like this guys writing – can we get a better writer to sum up an important story? -The pics detract from the EVE vibe too.

    July 8, 2012 at 6:33 am Reply
  3. dope

    I've been through 3 sov losses. 2 ended in fail cascades…. I've never seen moral so high during loses. It's interesting.

    Hey EVENEWS24 – do you have some spelling auto correct shit on or is it my browser!?

    July 8, 2012 at 7:11 am Reply
    1. AAA took sov

      TCU dropped in key west and Miami beach

      AAA took key west.next stop delve

      img59.imageshack.us/i/20120706122902.jpg/

      and Miami beach
      imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/20120707

      July 8, 2012 at 7:48 am Reply
  4. Bleh!

    TL; DR
    Looks like just another PL propaganda "news". Photo of a whore to turn off the reader's brain, followed by a wall of propaganda. Not worth wasting any of my precious lifetime on.

    July 8, 2012 at 2:18 pm Reply
  5. Kool-Aid

    Why do they keep claiming that RA's ship replacement fund was stolen? Over and over they crow, "Our spy stole the replacement fund, they're crippled lol!"

    Confirming that every month a different member corp is allowed to hold the Alliance funds and last month it was the spy's corp.

    Stop thinking everyone else is stupid enough to believe that stuff.

    July 9, 2012 at 4:56 am Reply
  6. Talon Kardee

    Elise…I once told you I like you as a person and as a eve player…and I even gave you all my votes for CSM.

    Biggest failure of my eve life that was!

    PL as goon pet, Shadoo as a goon FC will and need to fail even more when you die in flames after this is all over…

    When we gave you our vote we asked you to rebalance this game and you teamed up with goons…OMFG

    July 9, 2012 at 11:12 am Reply
  7. Hemmo Paskiainen

    I keep asking myselve why im reading EVE24….. This went from decent to another propaganda tool…..

    GJ Rivirini

    July 9, 2012 at 1:10 pm Reply
    1. sdffsdsfdsfd

      lol en24 was never decent m8.

      July 10, 2012 at 11:25 pm Reply
    2. LOL

      LOL idiot pubbie EVEnews is born as a propaganda tool for MM and the old NC

      July 11, 2012 at 1:04 pm Reply
  8. The Dude!

    Plans in motion Devil is a diversion goon has stepped into a minefield.

    July 9, 2012 at 8:43 pm Reply
  9. Bap

    Honestly, this is a really shitty "great war".

    July 10, 2012 at 2:58 pm Reply
  10. Gudfitesrus

    You are missing the bit where PL lost a Titan, to a Nulli/Black Legion trap and where Nulli/VC/HUN were actually winning in terms of K/D and and ISK during the "Gudfites" stage.

    July 10, 2012 at 6:18 pm Reply
    1. sdfsdffsdssdffsdsdf

      you're adorable

      July 10, 2012 at 11:22 pm Reply
  11. Very interesting article.
    P.S. I just love when people bitch ang moan, moan and bitch but they dont have the balls to login and post with their ingame name. Oh well…

    July 10, 2012 at 9:03 pm Reply
  12. C-Man

    Very informative. Most posts about Delve are hard to understand completely if you weren't on the inside. This really filled in some holes and I have a much better understanding of what all went on. Thank you

    July 15, 2012 at 12:55 am Reply
  13. fuck goons

    yeah its too bad NC. is now part of the cfc bitch list.

    July 7, 2012 at 4:49 am Reply
  14. Larry Lava

    YOU DONT SAY – evemaps.dotlan.net/system/D-I9HJ/kills , who got bitch slapped today?

    July 8, 2012 at 5:25 am Reply
  15. asdf

    You are taking it wrong way.

    MEANWHILE IN GEMINATE:
    Solar starts attacking NC. & Ev0ke tech & sov. Ev0ke runs back to home from Delve and then fights were fought like men without calling any backups from either side.

    July 8, 2012 at 10:55 am Reply
  16. DRF WAS fun

    I have a plan for you!!

    Get a fucking deal with Solar and attack Venal moons, Tenal and Branch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    July 9, 2012 at 10:59 am Reply
  17. Anhenka

    A: If you say so. I personally have 10$ on the goon/NCdot "Don't shoot each others tech moons" halfway civility ending the instant CCP nerfs tech.

    I will say we did refuse to head north to help goon and to help Soco, both sides tried to lobby us over. So SoCo sicked Solar on us to keep us busy and to eliminate the tiny possibility of us throwing on the CFC side (not likely)

    B: You mad, reaaaally mad, no question about it.

    July 7, 2012 at 5:01 am Reply
  18. s2n pilot

    as soon as tech gets nerfed, NC. will have a world of hurt coming down on them.

    Honestly, they need the SOCO just as bad as the SOCO needs them.

    July 7, 2012 at 8:21 am Reply
  19. Third Party

    Yea whatever, once the SoCo is gone the CFC wont give two shits about nc. and their tech. They will take it and milk it as long as they can before CCP nerfs it.

    July 7, 2012 at 5:41 am Reply
  20. TESTicals

    Your pretty fucking retarded if your holding out for CCP to fix tech, we have been told by CCP that they are going to fix it for the last two years. Heres the the thing….. CCP wants huge NAP's they don't care about the dispairity, what they do care about is is having huge fleets in one system, they want PC mag. writers to talk about how many people they can fit into on system. The fact that tidi fights are not in anyway exciting is not relevent to CCP, the fact that one side can fly ships for free, and the otherside can't isn't relevent to CCP. You play any other PvP game on the market you'll find that factions are alway pretty balenced, b/c otherwise you'll always have people pile onto the stronger side, and this is what we are seeing in eve. Why in gods name would your corp stay with a faction that can't replace your ships if another can, why make your pilots grind the awful PVE content when they don't need to.

    July 7, 2012 at 4:36 pm Reply
  21. NC. Scrub

    Actually whats more likely is that if the soco under -A- leadership falls, Solar and Gypsy will team with NC., Ev0ke, BL. and form a new coalition. If the CFC was smart, they would not want that to happen, because it would be the coalition which ended the CFC's reign at the top.

    But dunno, mittens seems to have some love for mactep and eluded to wanting an eastern block under competent leadership from solar.

    July 7, 2012 at 8:09 am Reply
  22. Gentlegoon

    Dumbass. In Shocking news. We would prefer a political solution over a militaristic one.

    July 7, 2012 at 8:27 am Reply
  23. Ship spinning 101

    BWACK WEGION, EVOKE, NC. and GYPSY! OH NOS! Yup thats the end of the CFC trololololol. Like you fools could ever get you shit together long enough to fight a war. You guys would end up fighting each other midway through over something dumb… And CFC does not fear this at all cause you guys arent competent enough to do anything useful. You call goons and CFC a bunch of mindless noobs and pets; however, we are a coalition of forces that embrace any challenge that we can which is why we sit on top of the tech throne with our allies in OTEC. If you all had half a brain you would have never let us go into Deklein branch tenal and venal and claimed the tech for yourselves, Please band together and do something would rather have sov that isnt blue to fight over with someone but you all just roll over like little dogs then play dead

    July 12, 2012 at 8:32 pm Reply
  24. anonymous

    Then you should not have sent Solar after us

    July 7, 2012 at 10:51 am Reply
  25. LoL

    Confirms NC now polish's Mitties knob on daily basis.

    July 7, 2012 at 12:18 pm Reply
  26. Better send Solar after NC. than risking the 0,000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance of having NC. helping CFC even though we all know that NC. would likely stay neuteral or attack NC. in an other region.

    July 8, 2012 at 12:44 am Reply
  27. Jakes

    You pretty much nailed it IMHO.

    Delve war was over the moment CFC decided to dogpile onto what would have probably been a long drawen out war desipite the income dispairity. I can't wait to hear them all pat themselve on the backs at the end as if it could have ended any other way, and how it was thier perseverance that won the war, along with the same old propaganda about how raidendot are bad to thier allys, and -A- have russians so they must be botters……

    July 7, 2012 at 5:39 pm Reply
  28. Easterner

    Goons would take a diplomatic solution with solar over ncdot. They know mactep has no territorial claims past geminate and that they keep to their deals.

    Ncdot will probably get blobbed to hell when the tech nerf comes.

    July 8, 2012 at 11:44 am Reply

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