Initially, the details were sketchy and heavily based on trolling on kugu. Black Aces is a fairly well known large PVP corp. They have a slightly sordid past. They initially broke into null by joining Libertas Fidelitas. The south was in turmoil at the time, with the ongoing Second Great War. Black Aces read the strengths of the alliances involved and made a quick hop to get into Against All Authorities (after languishing for almost a year in AAA Citizens – A’s probationary alliance). Leadership was recycled several times, and eventually Black Aces was given the okay to join AAA proper.
For those who do not know, Against All Authorities is a VERY pvp-centric alliance. Kill quotas, efficiency marks, and other metrics and ratios are common within the alliance. All of this comes out of years of pressure from some of the most powerful blocs throughout the history of the game. AAA has come through the fire many times in its history, and every time, they become a little more hardcore, as well as a bit more risk adverse. They play to win, second place is first loser. So, it came as no surprise that as Black Ace’s efficiency and kill counts both began dropping at the same time, they came more and more under the scrutiny of AAA high command. When it became apparent that June was shaping up to be a month with half the number of kills as the previous month and an mediocre efficiency rating in the low 80s, they began getting the “shape up or ship out” speech. This culminated in a rather heated argument between members of Black Aces and A’s Makka.
Within hours, kugu had it and both sides went to town trolling each other. Members of the CFC jumped in, because, that’s what they do. Pandemic Legion members chimed in. Tinfoil hats were passed out after it hit the Eve Online forums and the issue was tossed around with wild conspiracy theories from both sides, ranging from “failcascade in 3, 2, 1…” to “Black Aces is just a collection of PL spy alts anyway!”
In the end, it was suggested that NCdot was taking them in. They caravaned to the north and were hanging out in Maila with their caps over the weekend. They alliance tag dropped on the 23rd. Then… nothing. Now they are flying under a sacrastic jibe at their former alliance, Against All Anomolies. They claim their is no bad blood with AAA. Those I spoke to in AAA openly laughed at Black Aces, and reiterated variations on “they’ve gone downhill fast” or “they lost their good pilots and tried to replace them with carebears” none of which suggests an amicable breakup.
Where Black Aces goes from here is left to be seen. They may end up a footnote, as many formerly noteworthy corporations have over the history of Eve, or they may bounce back, meaner, leaner, and stronger than ever. Either way, despite the unkind words, their former alliance mates universally wished them luck.
Bagehi
the "king" *snicker* of space declares war and his eve news24 dogs go to worth with 4 propaganda posts already
Because I haven't been writing about Delve for months already.
Take off your tinfoil hat. EN24 is made of members of the following alliances: Test, -A-, PL, and 401K. We've been writing about Delve because all of us are fighting in Delve.
Yah… and all the reports sent in by SoCo just dont show up and all this propaganda shows up… kneel to your "king" of space and run the propaganda because im sure the cfc members will need it as their fleets get bombed into dust and their home systems burnt the ground when nc./evoke/irc realize they can strike all your tech when you in the south
except that 2nd current post is by an -A- member. You really are a retard
poor bitches you are currently out numbered by over 300 and redocked… call your goon overlord and realize we still have more alliances to call in
As part of OTEC NC. would have to defend CFC Tech that was hit – dumbass
Funny part is that they actually think they are the be all & end all of accurate EVE News, when in fact most of what they are writing is just straight out crap (The sort of crap you would find in one of those women's gossip magazines would best describe it)
FA losing Caps is funny also as they are & have always been rejects. I guess it's true when they say "Birds of a Feather Fly together"
Facts don't sell, drama does.
I am suprised that you have failed to highlight the mis-spelling of anomalies….
Thats some pretty EPIC fail right there….
When I added the link, I realized how it was spelled and had to re-write the alliance name. It was painful.
African American Aces*
noone ever liked u in -A- since u joined .. u know the reason…. btw u fags rly think u will get some corps into ur new childish alliance name ?? gl anyway
Are u rly mad?
#1. Kill quotas, efficiency marks, and other metrics and ratios are common within the alliance ( bullshit). never heard an word about any of this,check out their kb for proof #2. When it became apparent that June was shaping up to be a month with half the number of kills as the previous month and an mediocre efficiency rating in the low 80s, they began getting the “shape up or ship out” speech(bullshit) . june dropped as Aces prepped to drop A and thats all. #3. if you understand how to read kb you will see AAA activity dropped in june and Black Aces losses show a corp on the move out. I am longtime eve news reader and now see that the info they receive is not very well researched at all, as i suspected.
some truth…..we can all agree on.
Presenting….Your top 10 killers for May – since June was a "wash" with the evac.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=859…
Of these, 60% have left for other .-A-. Corps.
I wish you the best of luck, but before you can get better, you need to see the problem. You let the carebears run the corp into the ground.
Confirming that other AAA corps accepted active pvper's from Black Aces who didn't want to leave AAA.
Most of those who left have kills with fleet sizes 20+ and 50+ so you could say those PVP'ers who most like running with -A- fleets left.
Like I said earlier, most of the BA guys that wanted to stay joined LAMB or MVN. A few kept with black aces, but they're up in etherium losing carriers to random gangs of 15 dooders.
You mean some scrub lost 1 carrier to a 100 man fleet. Why no talk of the supers BA forced to SD in the forge?
Actually 3-4 guys joined BUSA, the guys that joined MV and LAMFED were our Academy and Rookies, guys that we wouldnt have allowed into the main corp because of thier lack of development or skill, but apparently were just fine for these other 2 corps.
I left not because I didn't like BA, but because I'm just used to the south and -A-. Also to the dude saying that those top killers for may stayed in -a- because of large fleet fights, look again. Mainly <10 man roams is what I dig (which is what B Aces do), and the fleet warfare — that's the icing on the cake.
GL 81DIV <3
It was a general comment. <3 sawtell.
He left because he forgot who his bro's were, but he will be back
Was likely Makalu's view on the situation and probably a desperate need to save face.
They should join Test, where there are strict rules regarding just how far about 50% your efficiency is allowed to go, and having fun is a requirement.
they got denied by TEST. how bad do you have to be to get rejected by any cfc alliance? let alone TEST
they should have tried FA. FA is a good alliance and Black Aces would fit in nicely.
Please be a troll!
FA just lost more Caps welp
they got begged by test, test was lol'd out the door. good day sir
True Story Bro…
LOL – Against All "Anomolies". That was kinda the problem in the first place. +1 for the honesty.
Good luck
I thought they just invented a reason to set one ore more of their pets to grey status, to fix the required numbers.
This actually goes back a few months. A few of the "leadership" AWOX'd 3 carriers ratting in a carebear system. They got reimbursed but gave BA the ol' "suck a dick, i'm out!" speech and joined LAMB or MVN. Those that knew what went on joined to. BA lost about a quarter of their PVPers to that little incident. Then came the hiring of an FC from somewhere that they were told to NOT hire under any circumstances (can't remember who). After that, the high council got together and collectively voted them out. they got 48 hours to move their shit and last I saw, they were losing carriers, tengus, and ratting nightmares to NCDot roams.
Black aces left because of corp stagnation and a long term ego clash between Black aces and -A- leadership.
-A- is a difficult alliance to be in as there is a no tolerance to drama and no easy rides or breaks and if your corp isn't 100% up to pvp all day every day it it will fall apart, -A- is also a great alliance to be because the usual kind of shit and terrible pilots are not tolerated.
Black aces is a great corp full of newer pilots with new ideas. However. long term, few corps can stand up to this pressure and I am glad Black aces got out when they felt they had to to preserve their corp and it's identity.
There is no bad blood at the grunt level and leadership has known about the move for a while. Over the past few months good pilots that wished to stay in -a- have also joined other corps.
It is sad to see them leave but we look forward to flying with again sometime / shooting at them.
If you mean -A- is a difficult alliance to be in due to flying 1/2 across the map then not joining in the fight, then you are right. As a grunt I would be pissed that the FC wasted 2 hours of my day to sit on a fucking gate, then lie to his fleet about why you didnt engage.
As opposed to grunts sitting in VFK for a month hellcamping PL so that Mittens can get his payoff…..I guess we all do what we gotta do.
lol -A- FC more like sick of the napfest and running away. Good job Black Aces
"Black Aces is a fairly well known large PVP corp."
epic troll!
is it really that hard to spell my name right?…i mean seriously…
GAF?
I will simply say that you guys fail to see a troll when you see one because as we know Internet spaceships is seriouz bizness. To clear up a few of your outright lies, and propaganda.
#1 Test Alliance attepted to recriut us after we left, we trolled the recriuter off our server until he stated "I dont think our two cultures would be a good mix."
#2 Ratios this month were/are down because we were moving, but things have begun picking up now that we have started killing some bricksquad tengus, and we are still moving pilots to the new area.
#3 The creation of the Alliance is in our view temporary as we are weighing our options and wanted to make sure our academy corp could communicate easier with our prime corp.
#4 Black Aces main pilots rarely carebear, our carebear alts are relegated to our Academy and Mining Corps, so whoever claims that the main corp are full of carebears are idiots.
#5 There was never any shape up or ship out crap from alliance, when we left, Black Aces was generally among the top 4 corporations on the killboards monthly, there are many corps in -A- far more fail then the Aces
#6 To clarify statment #5, for all the claims that Aces were "full of spys" there are few corps in -A- who did not on occasion attempt to recriut out of the Aces, and even worse, people that the Aces classified as unprepared to join -A- were relegated to our Rookie Academy, or our Military Academy were activley recriuted by Lambfed, and Macabre Vo. as full -A- members because they were incapable of setting standards. Black Aces set a very high standard on who we let into our corporations, is it possible the occasional spy got into one of our AAAC or Engarde alliance corps…possibly, but they would have to be an excellent spy to do so. But to get into our prime corp, highly doubtful.
#7 "Black aces left because of corp stagnation and a long term ego clash between Black aces and -A- leadership." This statment is close to the truth, however the ego clash was between some of my corp leadership with an -A- alliance FC whom we all respect and tollerate because we know he is emo and someone whom I would never recognize as leadership within -A- simply because he decided to be a book keeper in the form of the Lamfed CEO. My alleigance was to Herculetz and Rage and Terror, not to some pencil pusher who never had an original idea in his life pretending he accomplished somthing within the alliance on my coat tails then losing 2 titans in the process in the same day.
#8 The reason those guys left the corp when we left the alliance was because they were new to the corp, and the reason they were high on kill counts for that month is because they are required to be active. You will notice that no long term member of Black Aces remaind in -A-, and this is not a relfection of -A-. Black Aces loves and respects -A-, we spilled the same blood in the same mud so to speak for 2-3 + years, in good and bad times…
tl;dr
"My alleigance was to Herculetz and Rage and Terror, not to some pencil pusher who never had an original idea in his life pretending he accomplished somthing within the alliance on my coat tails then losing 2 titans in the process in the same day. "
Hawkcrest .. you are a true gentleman. But I am not so I will take names … you are referring to James Kordet … no one likes him in AAA … he is a target caller not a FC ..
james kordent isnt the lambf ceo….
June kills amount were the result of us leaving the Alliance. We told them deuces before they left to go help Nulli. We were always 3 or 4 for the month. right now we are 6th even after we were told to take the weekend off. Now that is just sad on AAA corps lol. The reason we left was because Maka is an FC that thinks he is god and tries to run all corps with some unknown giving leadership. And the noobs from MVN and other Maka fan boys admire the golden penis of Maka all day http://born-to-kill.com/downloads/Makalu.jpg . Bottom line guys we made our numbers, brought numbers to the table, showed great structure in the corp, and represented our "EX" Alliance during and after we left them.We are not PL spies But I did troll PL Garmon aka "El 'Tar" once here is that story:
[youtube 66-OHV1fjYY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66-OHV1fjYY youtube]
JBlack your an idiot <Smack>
Good aim though.
The funniest part is when he came back and blamed his mom for shutting off is computer
Pity J Black couldn't get a pic of his mom.
June kills amount were the result of us leaving the Alliance. We told them deuces before they left to go help Nulli. We were always 3 or 4 for the month. right now we are 6th even after we were told to take the weekend off. Now that is just sad on AAA corps lol. The reason we left was because Maka is an FC that thinks he is god and tries to run all corps with some unknown giving leadership. And the noobs from MVN and other Maka fan boys admire the golden penis of Maka all day http://born-to-kill.com/downloads/Makalu.jpg . Bottom line guys we made our numbers, brought numbers to the table, showed great structure in the corp, and represented our "EX" Alliance during and after we left them. This was our exit email to alliance. We are not PL spies But I did troll PL Garmon aka "El 'Tar" once here is that story
[youtube 66-OHV1fjYY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66-OHV1fjYY youtube]
June kills amount were the result of us leaving the Alliance. We told them deuces before they left to go help Nulli. We were always 3 or 4 for the month. right now we are 6th even after we were told to take the weekend off. Now that is just sad on AAA corps lol. The reason we left was because Maka is an FC that thinks he is god and tries to run all corps with some unknown giving leadership. And the noobs from MVN and other Maka fan boys admire the golden penis . Bottom line guys we made our numbers, brought numbers to the table, showed great structure in the corp, and represented our "EX" Alliance during and after we left them.We are not PL spies But I did troll PL Garmon aka "El 'Tar" once here is that story:
[youtube 66-OHV1fjYY&feature=context-gau http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66-OHV1fjYY&feature=context-gau youtube]
Still a complete dick I see. Never stop.
lol at this propaganda post….. for these bunch of lies im going to troll 24/7 openly on -A- coms and chats for the next 2 months….
obvius fail propaganda is fail
The difference between the alliances in the south, and the alliances in the north, is that the south doesn't have a "Hello Kitty Fun Times" agenda(Test). You fight you die or you leave, and when there's a lull between the wars you fight your friends all day everyday. You gank them while they mine, you hot drop them, you bring full fleets with command ships and logi to their doorsteps, and they answer back, but everyday you get better.
More importantly these battles keep the spirit of the south alive, and that spirit is hate.
If you're a love starved member of the something awful forums go join goonswarm. The Mittani promises that he "loves" you. hahaha
Fuck TEST. Those idiots want to have fun playing a video game.
I know, who wants to have fun in video games. o.0
Say what you will about TEST – after all they just love to brag about their l33t PeeVeePee skills – but you DO NOT besmirch the honorable name of Hello Kitty! To you sir, I say "good day!"
Ummm… Test isn't "good" at PVP. We don't PVP with some kind of competitive spirit, we PVP for fun, because it is fun.
More so you wish to PVP from time to time.
How ever it might be hard to shine in lines of 100 drakes… bashing the next structure.
TEST does have a go at fighting stuff, obviously they're not very good but that's not really the point.
SoCo plays like a group of unwilling adversaries forced together by chance, who hate each other almost as much as they hate their true enemies.
Sounds like the Netherlands football team to me.
We have a whole Ministry dedicated to love.
http://i.imgur.com/Pwaeo.png
All good thing must come to an end…. welcome to EVE ONLINE.
Someone up there said "join FA" – LMFAO – the most funny thing I have heared all year….
FA are FAIL
Yeah they suck.
And are still a step up from Black Aces
When did FA join Cascade?
welcome to the north pro pvper http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=137…
lol @ maka making up shit
" AAA has come through the fire many times in its history, and every time, they become a little more hardcore" –
This is funny, the real hardcore -A- died way back before Manny took the Helm and all the alliance ISK vanished into a "black hole" of Vodka, exotic dancers and new cars.
However i like where -A- stand now, at least someone in the game isn't ready to bottom for Mittens and the CFC.
Yo where the tits at?
To be honest my time in -A- was good i learnt so much and was good fun yes ego driven people had a big part in why we wanted to leave but it was more to do with the recruitment of several corps who dont deserve or earned their way into AAA.
As for our so called full of PL spies they seem to work for us better than they do in MVs corp since our last PL spy got us a nyx kill.