For those wondering what is going on in Geminate, we got a treat for you. We will expand on the XiX bit in coming articles, but here is a leak from Controlled Chaos comms:
Leak: Controlled Chaos Loses Space Twice
Our tale begins a few weeks ago when Controlled Chaos (WTF) opened dialogue with Raiden. in regards to retaining standings and working with them going forward. The political climate was fairly uncertain with the withdrawal of Red Alliance to Delve. Upon initial discussions, while short and to the point, we established a working relationship; or so we thought.
Last week ~proposals~ began to surface regards the distribution of space in Geminate. My initial understanding of this was that it was really about what to do with United Pod Service (UPS) space, as they were in the process of falling over. This is the proposal that came across WTF desk (as purportedly instigated by Raiden.):
While WTF allotted one of the best constellations in Geminate admittedly, frankly some of their members took offense to the allocation of space they already controlled (even if not in WTF name). Another condition being laid on the table was that Raiden. would control all tech moons in Geminate. I mention how he contested this will little result, though the inquired did eventually so kindly grant WTF access to the K42 constellation. However, it would stay in Raiden.s name.
Past Weekend WTF attempted a sov flip of the O2O-X2 constellation from UPS to WTF. Admittedly the timing – SOLAR FLEET prime time – and method to this lacked some tactical thought, and of course SOLAR FLEET took advantage of this as to be expected and began flipping the sov to themselves.
With about three hours to go on their TCUs I login. Raiden has washed their hands of it, due to a non-aggression pact with SOLAR FLEET “wait, what?”. Then I am informed SOLAR FLEET has already claimed to O2O-2X and DI- constellations and that RDN would not be any aid.
Old Pals
Controlled Chaos then began co-ordinating with NCDOT, XIX and Pinked, which threw some good fights against SOLAR FLEET, and took control of the constellation again. So far, so good but then:
Moments later I get a convo from RDN demanding we use joint comms and reset XIX immediately. I found this rather humorous considering it was Legion of xXDEATHXx there with 60 guys helping us out. The tone from RDNs representative was more of the same demeaning tone I had gotten from him in talks to date, so inevitably I told the egotistical tard to suck my dick.
WTF and RDN have reset standings effective immediately. GB, Pinked, Irikanji and whoever else can’t get their head out of RDNs arse are in the process of being reset on a 24 hour timer.
Our priority in the next 24-72 hours is removing non-essential assets our of Geminate sov stations. We’re not leaving just yet though, and have some shit stirring ambitions to fulfill before we move on to greener pastures. Geminate just become a target heaven and we’re going to have some fun with that within our capabilities.
Our mid/post-logistics objective is quite simple; kill shit. We’ll continue to form in Q-T until otherwise advised. You should have no more than a carrier load of assets here so that we may withdraw in one go when it inevitably comes time for that. From this point we’ll form in Maila under the comfort of NPC stations and easy re-supply access to empire.
I’ve stood proud and in acknowledgement of where I think we sit on the food chain in EVE. While not the greatest alliance in game, or without our flaws, we’ve achieved remarkable things as an alliance. I have a higher sense of self-respect then that given to us by this cluster fuck of a coalition.
I’ll be doing my best to deliver you the facts open and candidly going forward, so stay tuned for further updates and saddle up for some rich game content. I have a few surprises in store for you, as always 
//Sage
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Addendum
GIANTSBANE sent the following clarification.
Considering im the SkyMarshal for the geminate theater id like to set the record straight. I put together the Gem coalition and WTF was the first to be contacted who promptly told me to sod off and had no interest in working together. Thus I found more compliant allies in the reformed bloodbound and the starcrash lead pink and co. WTF then messed up the sov drop and refused to work with the rest of the gem co not to mention sage decided to let his emtions get the bst of him and go off on the leaders of RDN which is what got them reset. Not to mention WTF pulling a grand total of 24 guy in the fleet to to save 020 with another 20-30 from XIX while the new Gem co had close to 100 plus the NCdot and other allies around if needed.
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We didn't want that space anyways
Where have I heard that before?
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This is typical of raiden/bob/Kenzoku/IT. Individuals, corps, and alliances are nothing more than a means to a lot of these asshats, and they don't give a shit who they piss off/leave under the bus to get what they want. They've shown us this repeatedly. Why is this time any different?
WTF or Solar…
Solar is pals with AAA, so lets save the little man and fuck more nullsec alliances off.
Not everyone is in the CFC
Well whereever WTF goes, -A- follows, plus I can link killmails of -A- and WTF working together so, WTF are pals with -A- too, it's just that solar are more tolerable then Sage's ego
yese -a- and CC are best of friends after -a- kicked their asses out of detriod
WTF led to the failure of red-arrow, strange how they brought less and less numbers to fleets and sage's ego gets bigger and bigger
Where have I heard that before..
So basically you fucked up a sov transfer, asked Raiden to come clean up your mess. They refuse, so you go to their enemy for help, then Raiden expects you to reset them and you rage reset Raiden instead.
Nice job
When we got the orders to reset WTF the whole gem co was literraly jumping up and down in glee.
A pet shouldn't bite the hand that it feeds. You should have been more humble sage.
If you don't get your cookies for being a good pet, wouldn't you run to the next owner then?
Not if non of the owners want a dog that has a wheelchair for hindlegs…
Strange how my wheelchair for hindlegs has kicked AAA out of Catch twice in the last 2 years – Strange how I have held off AAA/ROL and friends until they called in alot more – Strange how I will next co-ordinate the destruction of Raiden – I am a master planner and had planned kicking out AAA twice – now my attention is on Raiden and I will co-ordinate the strike force to do this – Use your brains you can achieve anything in eve !
it's not unreasonable that a pet should expect protection from it's "Master." If Raiden can't be bothered to step up and execute their duty as landlord, then C.C. gains nothing. They have been reduced to merely keeping space blue for Raiden bots and Raiden moon goo harvesting. Pass… C.C would make just as much isk in low sec and have alot more fun.
WTF are a very fail alliance, they like to PvP but are bad at it and keep failing politically. They need to realize they cant negotiate with elite PvP alliances on even terms, and I think that's probably where the problem is, they just don't realize how much weaker they really are. Which is a problem a lot of the weaker alliances in null sec seem to have. One good thing to say about WTF is no matter how many times you kill them (as my alliance probably has done more then most) you can always be sure that if you want a fight they will keep forming up, when other alliances would give up. Which is a valuable attribute to have in EvE. Maybe they will one day ally properly with an elite alliance and get somewhere in eve.
Well there was a certain time when triple CTAs a day were called and only 20 showed up.
Also
Hurricanes.
Good summary. Small alliances moving to 0.0 have to learn to negotiate the tides of war, while attempting to grow and demonstrating a value to their masters. Those that don't……… <shrug>
Those that don't would be just about every name scribbled onto those maps by 3rd graders. Who in the fuck is Apoctylic? That band of Bloodbound noobs warping 5 carriers intoa frigate gang and losing – EVERY SINGLE ONE.
Raiden does a good job of alienating possible allies in the war against the goon blob. They still treat their "underlings" like trash, and one day (soon) they will learn (again) that treating your -allies- like shit will get you losing your space, your moons, and your pride.
Only to break apart and reform as bob mk 4, 5 or whatever the fuck, and attempt (and fail) to remove their hated enemies from power.
We all know this will never happen. Molle did a good job of attracting like-minded morons to his cause. He might be gone but his ideals remain sadly.
like we would care anyway, after all it is "just" a game. We don't actually treat all of our allies badly only the really fecking useless ones.
Pet Failures fail again in EN24 shocker
WTF are terrible why anyone would want them as a pet is unknown to me, Sage is full of shit like usual and being a terrible little troll.
So have they ran out of alliances to be a terrible pet too? I mean with retrospect they make Atlas>.< look really good..
I commend you, You are the first AAA guy that has not shitposted about PL somewhere in their post.
Typical Post:
"So i was eating lunch right? FUCK PL! Then i went back to work…"
yeah but he is still shitposting abut someone that used to kick their ass.
how about you try not talking about -a-? or are you so mad about them kicking pl's ass that that's all you can think about
Wow -A- must of done a number on you. You have all this RAGE against -A-. You must be ex DT or CO2
CONFIRMING, Not rlly wondering….. X alliance lost space to Y alliance….. "All of this has happend before, and it will happen again."
WTF have failed again. Meh Gem is going to change as soon as XdeathX is dead. to many FAILed alliances using Gem to make a name. They need to be cut back down to size.
I agree. We should discourage new alliances from making nullsec more interesting for the rest of us, providing targets, fresh blood, new drama and future recruits. The ideal we seek is stagnation and stasis, boredom and …
Wait, that all sucks.
Props to CC for not being bitches but lulz to the results, maybe legion will have a part of a dorne region to give em.
Given that Legion is, at present, preparing for a spell as someone else's sofa-pet, I doubt it.
lol if you haven't noticed legion is being pushed out of drone regions so doubtful, plus WTF are fial only a fool would let them ten ft near you
WE R THE 99%
Sounds about right from what I recall of Finfleet and X-13, arrogant assholes doesn't even begin to cover it.
lol, Mittani/Goons calls everyone pubbies, ganks miners, scams and has a general disdain for everyone not a Goons where are we just play and don't care about all that shite and "we" are the arrogant ones??
Wait a sec, Sage is an alright guy. Perhaps between 2 gay men, he would be the girly one, taking it up the ass from his own alliance. However I am more interested in the fact that slowly the founding corps of the alliance have almost all left beside 1. WTF could easily fall apart due to the new blood with no loyalty to the group.
Now that would be entertaining, *grabs popcorn* I would pay RL money to see sage lose everything, he is one of the most pompous irritating people I have ever met, with his head shoved way up his own ass
As of last night, that 1 left WTF.
WTF is the FCON that no one gives a shit about.
Raiden does not want to stir up shit just because of some former Pet alliance thinking that they are the shit.
That's what happens when allies have emenies of allies' friends and friends of allies' enemies. It's seriously like they are both kids of two scwabbling parents going thru a divorce, and both kids are bitching at the other to stop talking to one of them…
If you're gonna live with each other, wouldn't you think you'd figure this shit out first?
To further your own metaphor, generally speaking you *had* it figured out when you moved in together, but the divorce complicated matters and now everything is complicated.
touche. It's always the children who get hurt
Solar are the ones that killed UPS, and Solar has for sometime considered the southeasteren part of geminate thiers, why controlled chaos thought they could claim it, or that raidendot had any say in the matter is somewhat foolish.
Bullshit, Brick Squad killed UPS not SOLAR. Brick pretty much crushed UPS morale on a daily basis in the process of taking the BWF pocket in Geminate. SOLAR wasn't even around in Geminate at that time.
Not exactly. UPS mostly collapsed because RA left the area – and UPS were RA pets.
But yet, Brick has done a shitload more in gem than solar have so far.
once again – it wasnt RA…it wasnt solar and OF COURSE it wasnt Shit Squad!!
It was NC. who dropped on every of our OPS and that broke the will of UPS + a main FC on vacation…
Brick took 2 station systems, and 1 sov system from UPS in the last months. UPS has lost 10 station systems, and 28 sov. systems in the last month……. Brick hasn't done much of anything to UPS in reality…… harassing a weak neighboring alliance isn't going to break them, it's when you take space from them, they are helpless to stop you, and you break there will to fight.
I'm sorry, but taking 3 systems in a months time isn't what I would call a shitload of work…. In comparison Solar took 7 station system, and 21 sov. systems from UPS in 5 days, and UPS disbanded 1-2 days later. No offence to brick, but implying they killed UPS is ridiculous.
Sigh, all of the systems that Solar took were from UPS dropping sov from a corp leaving or trying to transfer sov to another alliance. Stop talking about anything to do with Geminate, you have no fucking idea what you're on about tbqh.
Start again, Brick fought UPS, then they collapsed as they knew that RA was on the move and were not going to save them.
Brain dead, please look at their Kill board loses YES a lot of loses where? not structures but ships comprehenda.
Reason it took as long as it did was Pink, WTF, Broken toys, U'Khan (TEST were also blue with them and occasionally NC.dot = alot of blue-balling) and a few more who may or may not be house hold names bring 75-100 pilots to a fight.
May not be your 500 v 500, but nevertheless made great fights and a war of attrition
Solar took 7 station systems, and and 21 sov. systems from UPS in like 4 days, and UPS fell apart one, or two days later. Newsflash UPS had sov. holdings outside of geminate, newsflash UPS was fighting a sov. war outside of geminate for months.
Implying brick killed UPS is ridiculous if you take into consideration actual current events, no offence intended.
Solar took those systems in The Spire when one of the UPS corps (Titans of Doom IIRC) dropped from alliance and all the sov dropped (notice how all the sov dropped around the exact same time)
News to me that UPS was fighting a sov war outside of Geminate considering pretty much their entire alliance and all of their FCs were basing out of and fighting from BND along with WTF/Pinked etc until they realised they were screwed and they mass evaced from the system.
BTW I was/am actually fighting in Geminate and it sounds like you're just looking at Dotlan so whatever.
The entire fucking NC (the original version) died due to losses of fights in that O2O constellation in Gem. Sage thinking it is that easy getting that constellation is the same thing as George Bush thinking he can invade Tazmania because some failtard told him there is oil there. Seriously, Sage needs to quitt EVE or stick to lvl 4 missions in low sec. The worse are the idiots and retards following him around.
who really gives a crap what a shitty 0.0 pet alliance that bounces from home to home or master to master is getting or not getting. Your a proud member of pets like convicted (you guys did this kind crap for a long time), Rookie Empire, Legio and countless others.
Someone is mad they left conviected as they earned themselves somet ech and sanctums aren't they?
So Raiden (The BOB of yesteryear) are trying to show how tough they are against an alliance that is basically near Dead & even then they can't pull it off. Instead said alliance sticks their finger up at them & tells them to boot off!
Also all these GREAT ideas in the comments from people who probably either don't live in 0.0, have never lived in 0.0, or are just plain carebears. I know I look forward to the day one of them makes an attempt to have a go in 0.0 cause with all these great ideas it should only take a week or so & they will hold all or most of 0.0 they are that good!
You ask for space and Tech. WTF, seriously, you ASKED FOR SPACE. Why not take your own space and collect the rewards instead of leaching off other people?
Why dont you at least pretend to know something about nullsec politics before you make yourself look like a retard sperging on evenews.
wait wait wait!! you are mad that new bob is treating their pets like shit?
have you ever paid attention to bob?
Controlled Chaos is the white trash of 0.0
TL;DR – XiX, having pissed off everyone else in the world (literally) begins licking balls of small up-and-coming groups in vain effort to reestablish diplomatic legitimacy. Meanwhile RDN makes this job easier by being a total dick to its pets… because hey, no one saw *that* one coming.
So why did Irukandji get fucked in this deal?
Because who the fuck are they, what have they ever done?
I laughed my ass off at that edit ' reformed bloodbound ' LMFAO.
So I was in WTF until about a week after the Geminate move. originally we were supposed to be blue to UPS and help them poke at RA's enemies from behind. They'd be brawling in C-J while we'd keep their flanks busy with endless sov timers and SBUs.
Well that didn't really pan out as brick squad led successful roams into our space on a regular basis. They'd show up in AHACS or T3s or something, and we'd form up home defense fleets in drakes and canes or something that poor people would fly. I remember one terrible roam we did where we went out in Oracles and NOTHING ELSE. Brick came at us in assault frigates that could get under the oracle's guns, and of course, no drones. Sage spent most of the fight screaming at the 3 interceptors that decided to tag along before wiping the fleet.
Anyway I don't know how UPS got un-blue. I am guessing it happened after RA imploded. Maybe if they'd stuck together and teamed up with all the other small alliances in Geminate they could have told Raiden to fuck off and get no tech.
But no Sage was being a man child, which of course collided with the man baby running Raiden. And now unless they can get to be someone else's pet reeeaaaaly fast they are going to burn…… I hear goons hate Raiden, It's worth a shot.
No one cares what you think Vigilanta or your carebear corp. Go back to Jita
No possible way that's Vigilanta. spelling is 1000% too good
dont leave just yet, the shitstorm in the north and east is just starting
going well
whitestar.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&…
The usual biased & dubious News24 reporting. Without question, Brick Squad were instrumental in dismantling United Pod Service. Controlled Chaos suffered several huge defeats to Brick Squad. Brick squad, written off by the complacent and arrogant, have, despite far fewer numbers, and next to no help, brought it to Geminate, their spiritual home and claimed back the IPS constellation. Give them some credit where it's due.
Riv, full of shit post again, why didn't you check UPS killboard and you will see who owned them for weeks on end and killed their will.
WTF then assisted UPS but unfortunately unsuccessful. Plus nice to see you didn't not want to mention us (Brix and also Nulli when prior to returning South) and you fully know who have been doing the killing.
this is ever so fucking bullshit!
Brick Squad was no threat at all to UPS – we easily managed to keep you out of our stuff. Killed alot of you + a nyx that self destructed.
It was all NC. who all of a sudden began to hotdrop every damn OP we had and that and ONLY that broke the will of UPS in this fucking clusterfuck theatre!
Brick Squad was a nice oponent in former times but is now just a shadow of dust…
Yo did you ever log in, Kill boards stats don't lie, and Yes NC.dot hot dropped EVERY body and occasionally assisted here is a clue moon-goo?
Why didn't UPS continue in Geminate as we were no threat lolz.
Because the Leader of UPS Talon Kardee changed to Raiden and took our Titan with !
Chicken Squad was no threat at all they are victims!
When the war against solar started many of the UPS Members (including me) dont wanted to fight Solar!
But Talon got the Order from Silent Dodger to Fight Solar because they started to go to Bed with AAA, Gybsy etc.
Chicken Squad i hope Solar will reclaim your Systems ^^ then you can try to invade the Systems again (Brick Squad tried this a year long)! And till Solar will reclaim the Systems i will start a roam to you every week! Expect us.
Um we're blue to solar fyi
There we go – kb.united-pod-service.com check losses = farming
LOL…
You check a KB that hasnt been used for ages – LOL
For the records:
Sage is great guy and a fucking good FC – full stop!
Every FC will tell you that hes only as good as his fleet is and after many many month of fighting -A-, ROL, Stain, Nulli and sometimes INIT people were just burned.
Same for UPS.
The only reason this all went bad is that the coalition of RA, XIX and the hired PL+NC. dudes lost momentum on the doors of Cache – not because UPS fucked up some timers in Insmother dear goddamn yelling Shadoo and not because the coalition wasnt able to go on but because of fucking burned people and NO fucking coordination by XIX in the name of UAxdeath
All that happened to WTF…UPS…RA and many others began when we didnt proceed into Cache for weeks…giving Solar and -A- time to regroup for Insmother.
After all this happened Sage took some time off the game…Talon Kardee took some time off and this is what happens to alliances without real leaders – they fail!
Why is anyone even care raiden. is in chill mode because dudes don't want to fight and fc are doing jack shit. Personally WTF can die but i would like to see more entitys taking 0.0 sov not just he same ones over and over
I'm gay!!!!
"The tone from RDNs representative was more of the same demeaning tone I had gotten from him in talks to date, so inevitably I told the egotistical tard to suck my dick." Yep, If you don't have 50 Titans on you, that's pretty much the attitude you will get from RDN's cunts.