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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Leaked&#8221; CCP Hilmar Global email shows the reasoning behind CCP Zulu devblog.</title>
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		<title>By: AtroposKahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>AtroposKahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 18:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hahaha... I love this game... All this whining from a bunch of people who sit and mine all day in high sec... Really... You mad bro... Go play the game the STFU. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha&#8230; I love this game&#8230; All this whining from a bunch of people who sit and mine all day in high sec&#8230; Really&#8230; You mad bro&#8230; Go play the game the STFU.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 00:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All five accounts cancelled.  Try Perpetuum instead. 
 
CCP you are a pack of inbred tards.  HERP DERP ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All five accounts cancelled.  Try Perpetuum instead. </p>
<p>CCP you are a pack of inbred tards.  HERP DERP</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2011/06/25/ccp-hilmar-global-email-shows-the-reasoning-behind-ccp-zulu-devblog/comment-page-3/#comment-46419</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see anything wrong with the email.  I assume the shitstorm is due to the statement that &quot;I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say&quot;. 
 
Well guess what, he&#039;s 100% correct!  The only way your vote truly carries any weight is when you vote with your pocketbook.  If you don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t buy it.  If you can&#039;t stand the fact that other people buy it, cancell your account. 
 
Anytime you make a change, there are 15% of the people who will vehemently hate the idea, 15% that will love the same idea, and 70% that go with the flow.  It is the law of averages and it just goes to show that when poll any sizeably population of folks they will not agree on ANYTHING 100%.  Hilmar&#039;s statement doesn&#039;t mean they will be disregarding player feedback.  It simply means they subscribe to the old adage that actions speak louder than words.  And never forget, 50% of the world&#039;s population is below average intelligence .. by definition! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t see anything wrong with the email.  I assume the shitstorm is due to the statement that &quot;I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say&quot;. </p>
<p>Well guess what, he&#039;s 100% correct!  The only way your vote truly carries any weight is when you vote with your pocketbook.  If you don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t buy it.  If you can&#039;t stand the fact that other people buy it, cancell your account. </p>
<p>Anytime you make a change, there are 15% of the people who will vehemently hate the idea, 15% that will love the same idea, and 70% that go with the flow.  It is the law of averages and it just goes to show that when poll any sizeably population of folks they will not agree on ANYTHING 100%.  Hilmar&#039;s statement doesn&#039;t mean they will be disregarding player feedback.  It simply means they subscribe to the old adage that actions speak louder than words.  And never forget, 50% of the world&#039;s population is below average intelligence .. by definition!</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 03:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok. So someone pulled aside the veil. They are a business. Consider that u dont know the price on a car. U work the dealer down a few thousand. He acts butt hurt and u drive away with &quot;a steal.&quot; He is happy bc he sold a car with several thousand profit margin but u didnt know that, until someone in the car business informs you. Did you think the dealer was your pal? Do companies make exactly the product their consumers tell them to make?? 
 
It&#039;s a business. Now for the cash only items that give advantage...if ccp makes the high level implants cash only, I still dont see a problem. Some game income paradigms are built just on the cash only paradigms. And if ccp wants to leave their cashless playerbase behind, they will observe how the world market reacts. He is right. Action, and reaction drives success, not words. He is a dealer. He wants ur money. You can hold to your ford, bmw, or pinto loyalty, or walk off the lot. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. So someone pulled aside the veil. They are a business. Consider that u dont know the price on a car. U work the dealer down a few thousand. He acts butt hurt and u drive away with &quot;a steal.&quot; He is happy bc he sold a car with several thousand profit margin but u didnt know that, until someone in the car business informs you. Did you think the dealer was your pal? Do companies make exactly the product their consumers tell them to make?? </p>
<p>It&#039;s a business. Now for the cash only items that give advantage&#8230;if ccp makes the high level implants cash only, I still dont see a problem. Some game income paradigms are built just on the cash only paradigms. And if ccp wants to leave their cashless playerbase behind, they will observe how the world market reacts. He is right. Action, and reaction drives success, not words. He is a dealer. He wants ur money. You can hold to your ford, bmw, or pinto loyalty, or walk off the lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Higgins</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2011/06/25/ccp-hilmar-global-email-shows-the-reasoning-behind-ccp-zulu-devblog/comment-page-3/#comment-44835</link>
		<dc:creator>Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 01:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was under the impression that the &quot;purchasing ammo, ships etc&quot; was in reference to the AUR currency which will be used in Dust 514. I didn&#039;t think they were bringing that ability IN to EVE except for customizing characters.  
 
I&#039;ve been playing EVE (well.. subscribed lol) since early 2004 and I have over 100m SP&#039;s on my character. I rarely make a lot of ISK so generally people who played the game just a few months can make more isk than me if they feel like it. I get pretty bored of it. So the one thing that sets me apart is I have accumulated a lot of ships/equipment and obviously huge amount of SP&#039;s. If you&#039;re telling me someone who starts tomorrow will be able to get to my playing level by PAYING for it - then you can consider me fucking off to something like Knight of the Republic when it comes out. That&#039;d be a 7 year customer ignored all for the sake of a brand new one that may... or may not be that interested in the game 7 years down the line. 
 
Talk about customer appreciation. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was under the impression that the &quot;purchasing ammo, ships etc&quot; was in reference to the AUR currency which will be used in Dust 514. I didn&#039;t think they were bringing that ability IN to EVE except for customizing characters.  </p>
<p>I&#039;ve been playing EVE (well.. subscribed lol) since early 2004 and I have over 100m SP&#039;s on my character. I rarely make a lot of ISK so generally people who played the game just a few months can make more isk than me if they feel like it. I get pretty bored of it. So the one thing that sets me apart is I have accumulated a lot of ships/equipment and obviously huge amount of SP&#039;s. If you&#039;re telling me someone who starts tomorrow will be able to get to my playing level by PAYING for it &#8211; then you can consider me fucking off to something like Knight of the Republic when it comes out. That&#039;d be a 7 year customer ignored all for the sake of a brand new one that may&#8230; or may not be that interested in the game 7 years down the line. </p>
<p>Talk about customer appreciation.</p>
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		<title>By: CCP Internal Newsletter Leaked, Future of EVE in Limbo - Nukezilla</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2011/06/25/ccp-hilmar-global-email-shows-the-reasoning-behind-ccp-zulu-devblog/comment-page-3/#comment-44756</link>
		<dc:creator>CCP Internal Newsletter Leaked, Future of EVE in Limbo - Nukezilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Hilmar mail mentioned above cane be found here on Evenews24, and is fairly shocking. I know CCP isn&#8217;t the smallest studio in the industry, but I never [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hilmar mail mentioned above cane be found here on Evenews24, and is fairly shocking. I know CCP isn&#8217;t the smallest studio in the industry, but I never [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Incoming shipment: EON#024 &#171; EONmagazine.net</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2011/06/25/ccp-hilmar-global-email-shows-the-reasoning-behind-ccp-zulu-devblog/comment-page-3/#comment-44723</link>
		<dc:creator>Incoming shipment: EON#024 &#171; EONmagazine.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] features and write-up the general mood as quickly as possible. I don’t think anyone &#8211; except perhaps Hilmar &#8211; expected the fallout that ensued. Needless to say, had we waited for all the dust to settle [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] features and write-up the general mood as quickly as possible. I don’t think anyone &#8211; except perhaps Hilmar &#8211; expected the fallout that ensued. Needless to say, had we waited for all the dust to settle [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Machinations</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2011/06/25/ccp-hilmar-global-email-shows-the-reasoning-behind-ccp-zulu-devblog/comment-page-1/#comment-44658</link>
		<dc:creator>Machinations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 03:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You sound like a pompous moron with very little understanding of meme snowballing. 
 
Also, it is greedy - to a fault. There are levels of greed and stupidity that are unacceptable. 
 
I guarantee the pointy-head  business type pushing this strategy will be out trying to get a job with another MMO company in 6 months, so he can hop on board and ride it into the ground. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sound like a pompous moron with very little understanding of meme snowballing. </p>
<p>Also, it is greedy &#8211; to a fault. There are levels of greed and stupidity that are unacceptable. </p>
<p>I guarantee the pointy-head  business type pushing this strategy will be out trying to get a job with another MMO company in 6 months, so he can hop on board and ride it into the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacked Off</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacked Off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am flabbergasted to see how buying a virtual game item can cause soooo much anghst.  
 
Cancelling subs and alts etc. is just bravado bullshit and not worth the words you type. If you didn&#039;t care you would not be raging so fn hard. 
 
DEAL WITH IT.  
 
READ the CCP comment selectively bolded. They see the success/lack of success on any topic based on what players *DO*.  
 
[b]Thus, the best form of protest is simple &gt;&gt; DON&#039;T BUY the goods.[/b] 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am flabbergasted to see how buying a virtual game item can cause soooo much anghst.  </p>
<p>Cancelling subs and alts etc. is just bravado bullshit and not worth the words you type. If you didn&#039;t care you would not be raging so fn hard. </p>
<p>DEAL WITH IT.  </p>
<p>READ the CCP comment selectively bolded. They see the success/lack of success on any topic based on what players *DO*.  </p>
<p>[b]Thus, the best form of protest is simple &gt;&gt; DON&#039;T BUY the goods.[/b]</p>
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		<title>By: Iron</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2011/06/25/ccp-hilmar-global-email-shows-the-reasoning-behind-ccp-zulu-devblog/comment-page-3/#comment-44576</link>
		<dc:creator>Iron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The $4.1k in monocles is nice but lets also add in the -5.5k accts @ $15 = $82k a month gone. lol ccp ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The $4.1k in monocles is nice but lets also add in the -5.5k accts @ $15 = $82k a month gone. lol ccp</p>
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		<title>By: Mechangel</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2011/06/25/ccp-hilmar-global-email-shows-the-reasoning-behind-ccp-zulu-devblog/comment-page-1/#comment-44535</link>
		<dc:creator>Mechangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 03:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can I have your stuff? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I have your stuff?</p>
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		<title>By: Welp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Welp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yup, I was happy until Incarna released.  I&#039;m not gonna pay for a game where I am not important to the company as a customer.  Three accounts unsubbed. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, I was happy until Incarna released.  I&#039;m not gonna pay for a game where I am not important to the company as a customer.  Three accounts unsubbed.</p>
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		<title>By: Bismarck</title>
		<link>http://evenews24.com/2011/06/25/ccp-hilmar-global-email-shows-the-reasoning-behind-ccp-zulu-devblog/comment-page-1/#comment-44449</link>
		<dc:creator>Bismarck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[....Yeah some ideas seem wired and what we saw so far needs improvement.  
But still i can see no reason to emorage like some people do out there. 
Give this stuff some time. We all still can cancel our suscription when the shit really hits the fan. 
And remember, exspecially the new interface that came with Incarna is designed to make eve attractive for a bigger group of players. Most people in TeH internetz just cant live without an proper avatar ^^ 
 
Never the less wrieting stuff like: &quot;I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say&quot; is a capital mistake. ffs Hilmar! Think what you want. Scream it out in your office, but DO NOT WRITE IT DOWN SOMWHERE. 
 
Had to split my comment -.- ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.Yeah some ideas seem wired and what we saw so far needs improvement.<br />
But still i can see no reason to emorage like some people do out there.<br />
Give this stuff some time. We all still can cancel our suscription when the shit really hits the fan.<br />
And remember, exspecially the new interface that came with Incarna is designed to make eve attractive for a bigger group of players. Most people in TeH internetz just cant live without an proper avatar ^^ </p>
<p>Never the less wrieting stuff like: &quot;I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say&quot; is a capital mistake. ffs Hilmar! Think what you want. Scream it out in your office, but DO NOT WRITE IT DOWN SOMWHERE. </p>
<p>Had to split my comment -.-</p>
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		<title>By: Bismarck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bismarck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, i can agree with all what you say. But fact is: lets take the 150k suscribers you said...how many of them are crying out atm in forum and through CSM? 300? Hell lets say 1000, even 1500 maybe. Thats 1% of your customers. Changes in mmos tend to earn riot like reactions. Its just like that. And what they do now has nothing in common with what SoW did to SWG.  
The game itself stays the same so far. All that happened is: we got a fancy new interface and a shop where they need to tweak prices. 50euro for a monocle Oo thats..... well its not really what people mean when they talk about microtransactions. 
Beside that, i am quite sure the 52 monocles where bought by players who directly sold them on the market to stock up their wallets..... 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, i can agree with all what you say. But fact is: lets take the 150k suscribers you said&#8230;how many of them are crying out atm in forum and through CSM? 300? Hell lets say 1000, even 1500 maybe. Thats 1% of your customers. Changes in mmos tend to earn riot like reactions. Its just like that. And what they do now has nothing in common with what SoW did to SWG.<br />
The game itself stays the same so far. All that happened is: we got a fancy new interface and a shop where they need to tweak prices. 50euro for a monocle Oo thats&#8230;.. well its not really what people mean when they talk about microtransactions.<br />
Beside that, i am quite sure the 52 monocles where bought by players who directly sold them on the market to stock up their wallets&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: My view on the current player protest - DOTLAN :: EveMaps</title>
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		<dc:creator>My view on the current player protest - DOTLAN :: EveMaps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] “Leaked” CCP Hilmar Global email shows the reasoning behind CCP Zulu devblog. [...]]]></description>
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